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<DocScrutinizer05>
on a short update: Prestashop installed. Pending: configuration (lot of work, mainly for dos1) and import of, and account creation for all our customers
<PeperPots>
Thanks doc
<DocScrutinizer05>
yw :-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
announcing another downtime for my personal workstation, our house's electrical trunk exploded, so the electricity dudes will dig up the street in ~2h and then no more online for DocScrutinizer05
<DocScrutinizer05>
in case of emergency, I'm still available here on IRC as DocScrutinizer51
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<DocScrutinizer51>
ohmy that feels weird
<DocScrutinizer51>
feels like highway without cars, or olympia without fire
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<DocScrutinizer51>
any tips for cheap *reliable* UPS?
<DocScrutinizer51>
I've seen more blackout fails from broken UPS than from mains going south
<DocScrutinizer51>
prlly I should get a dual hotstandby PSU for my PC as well
<DocScrutinizer51>
connect one power-in to plain mains and the other to UPS out
<DocScrutinizer51>
ideally two distinct fuse branches, on two distinct phases of mains
<DocScrutinizer51>
~botsnack
<infobot>
:), DocScrutinizer51
<kerio>
DocScrutinizer51: two PSUs
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<bencoh>
DocScrutinizer51: APC Back-UPS RS 900G here
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<DocScrutinizer51>
bencoh: OK?
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<bencoh>
DocScrutinizer51: ~900days and counting
<bencoh>
with cumulated 1933seconds on battery according to latest power failure report
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<DocScrutinizer51>
bencoh: TA
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<DocScrutinizer05>
Mains is back again! \o/
<DocScrutinizer05>
those guys are lightning fast
<DocScrutinizer05>
only 5 hours to locate the defect, dig up the street, cut out the defect cable incl slit and fit in and connect new one, test and power up the branch
<DocScrutinizer05>
split*
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<DocScrutinizer05>
bencoh: affordable too
<DocScrutinizer05>
best watts/buck
<DocScrutinizer05>
the 1200W is already almost twice as much. and the 550 is only negligibly cheaper
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<kerio>
i feel like i want a new laptop battery
<kerio>
this one's starting to lose charge a bit
<kerio>
even though it's only at 660 cycles
<DocScrutinizer05>
I actually wonder where are thpose PC PSU with a battery connector to connect that 5¼" battery pack
<jake42>
did you know: In a few years resolv.conf will be obsolete and everyone is using THE "default" DNS server
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, of course
<DocScrutinizer05>
why not? it's reliable and works just great ;-P
<DocScrutinizer05>
and eventually they can conveniently change it to an IP owned by RedHat X-P
<jake42>
:-)
<Humpelstilzchen>
the default? 8.8.8.8?
<jake42>
yep :-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
did you know I been employed in companies where I would get fired when my PC would have tried to access 8.8.8.8
<DocScrutinizer05>
actually getting fired in a way that doesn't leave time to pack my things and clean my desk
<jake42>
wouldn't one just use a firewall to prevent that?
<DocScrutinizer05>
2 "friendly" hombres with sufficient muscles would have helped me to leave the building faster than I could by myself even on friday evening
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, and that company firewall has alarm sirens
<jake42>
sounds really odd to me
<jake42>
but what do I know :-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
companies who develop e.g. security critical stuff or just have all their assets in huge amounts of proprietary code and R&D (say for example modem builders) don't have any sense of humor when it comes to security policies. WW-II paroles are not far from that, the type of "feind hoert mit!" etc
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<DocScrutinizer05>
you're not allowed to talk even to your wife about specific job topics
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<jake42>
makes a little more sense now, thanks
<DocScrutinizer05>
yw :-)
<kerio>
DocScrutinizer05: well
<kerio>
you could argue that you shouldn't be able to *reach* 8.8.8.8 in such an environment
<DocScrutinizer05>
you are not able to read it. You're supposed to not even try
<DocScrutinizer05>
reach*
<DocScrutinizer05>
actually very usually you're not even allowed to have any tools with which you _could_ try to reach 8.8.8.8
<DocScrutinizer05>
except a browser that's behind a harsh proxy filtering *everything*
<DocScrutinizer05>
some devels have more permissions than other. E.G use tools like ping or whatever. Usually only in a local network that has no contact to outside world
<DocScrutinizer05>
it's strictly forbidden to take a laptop from lab with local network to the generic intranet. Nevertheless _sometimes_ you need to, unless you want to run 50 times with a USB stick from one zo zhe other, and then even USB sticks are not allowed
<DocScrutinizer05>
to the*
<kerio>
alright i need to buy a mouse what do i buy
<DocScrutinizer05>
now if such lab laptop had systemd-resolved installed, you might already be doomed
<kerio>
such lab laptop should run openbsd
<DocScrutinizer05>
that depends
<DocScrutinizer05>
it quite likely rather needs android
<DocScrutinizer05>
since you company's customers use that on their devices
<kerio>
i don't think you can develop for android on android
<DocScrutinizer05>
but actually linux is allowed, for devels that also work in lab
<DocScrutinizer05>
bsd is not
<kerio>
D:
<kerio>
but
<DocScrutinizer05>
and linux only in that distro the IT department provides
<kerio>
no holes in the default install
<kerio>
*two
<kerio>
IN A HECK OF A LONG TIME, DOC
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<DocScrutinizer05>
no use in arguaing with your IT security dude
<DocScrutinizer05>
you actually are not even allowed to bring your own mouse or kbd
<DocScrutinizer05>
you get a laptop with linux installed, from IT. And they allow root for you, since they understand you need it
<kerio>
yeah but about that
<kerio>
which mouse do i buy
<DocScrutinizer05>
you don't have any admin access on your regular (WontOs) workstation
<kerio>
GODDAMMIT I GET IT SOME PLACES ARE SECURE
<kerio>
IT DOESN'T HELP ME BUY A MOUSE
<DocScrutinizer05>
buy a MX Revolution ;-D
<DocScrutinizer05>
best mose EVAR
<kerio>
it costs a ton
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you can't find that, buy it's successor the MX5500
<DocScrutinizer05>
throw away the kbd that comes with it
<kerio>
LOL
<kerio>
i was thinking logitech m235
<kerio>
maybe it's too small, tho
<kerio>
but this is for a laptop
<DocScrutinizer05>
for laptop you regularly want a BT mouse
<DocScrutinizer05>
with USB charging jack
<kerio>
eeh, they make "nano receivers" now
<kerio>
my god
<kerio>
there's way too much choice
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, nano receiver might work
<DocScrutinizer05>
((with USB charging jack)) or 2*AAA
<DocScrutinizer05>
so you always can get/carry spare batteries
<kerio>
m235 seems nice
<DocScrutinizer05>
almost
<kerio>
17 currencies
<DocScrutinizer05>
not RMB
<DocScrutinizer05>
or Lira. wait...
<DocScrutinizer05>
17 GBP would be a tad steep
<kerio>
or do i really want to be that weird dude that uses a trackball
<DocScrutinizer05>
also comes with some additional buttons which sometimes can be convenient, depending on what you're used to
<kerio>
nigga that's a 70€ mouse
<DocScrutinizer05>
50
<DocScrutinizer05>
but it comes with a pouch :-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
alas Logitech never learned how to build decent pushbuttons that last
<DocScrutinizer05>
they're not alone, most hw designers seem to have no clue about the fact that SMD switches are not meant to cope with more force than needed to operate the switch, and that therefore you should use a dedicated mechanical limit lever and operate the switch only with a elastic plunger
<DocScrutinizer05>
usual design: use a plunger made from same plastic as the keycap and the SMD switch is the limit for pressing in the keycap
<DocScrutinizer05>
this results in switch not even reaching the nominal number of actions before it starts failing, which results in annoying doubleclicks where you'd expect a single click
<DocScrutinizer05>
maybe they also don't use sufficient current to keep the contacts clean
<DocScrutinizer05>
as long as it works OOTB. Who cares about longevity
<DocScrutinizer05>
obviously not the manufacturer
<kerio>
i thought logitech had a pretty good track record on replacing broken stuff
<DocScrutinizer05>
dunno
<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly not after 18 months
<DocScrutinizer05>
anyway I fixed my MX Revo two times. Then I got me a MX5500 for job (yes, despite it wasn't allowed ;-D ). When the Revo failed 3rd time, I used the Job mouse which had no home anymore at that time. Eventually the job mouse failed too and now I'm using 1st of my two spares I got meanwhile
<kerio>
i mostly use the trackpad :3
<DocScrutinizer05>
so I have a 4 of them MX Revo/5500 now
<kerio>
none of which works?
<DocScrutinizer05>
plus two keyboards I'd love to get rid of
<DocScrutinizer05>
2 work
<DocScrutinizer05>
the other two are waiting until I feel bored and fix them
<DocScrutinizer05>
spare switches are cheap and easy to find
<DocScrutinizer05>
at least for LMB and RMB
<DocScrutinizer05>
the other ones are nasty SMD but rarely used
<DocScrutinizer05>
so they stay longer
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<DocScrutinizer05>
First I thought Logitech using Omron switch was inferior quality. But honestly Cherry didn't stay any longer
<DocScrutinizer05>
Now I'm using a switch with higher operation force and that one worked a while in Revo, until one of the SMD switches (MMB) failed
<DocScrutinizer05>
MMB not giving proper contact is terribly annoying
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<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly eventually I should replace all the SMD switches by Hall switches and tiny magnets
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<arossdotme>
with the neo900/gta04 composite video output is it possile flip the image so it's a mirror image?
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<DocScrutinizer05>
arossdotme: I don't know, depends on how the displaymanager handles the display I guess
<DocScrutinizer05>
brownouts are lots of fun :-/
<DocScrutinizer05>
my router forgot all config
<DocScrutinizer05>
as if I had no funnier things to do
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<arossdotme>
DocScrutinizer05, ok well thx anyway
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<Wizzup>
Q: I know there is some/lots of work trying to open source parts of maemo that are closed currently, what is the plan after that?
<Wizzup>
Say a few non essential parts cannot easily be reverse engineered, and can be dropped (for certain goals), will then the next focus be on upgrading current sw?
<Wizzup>
I'd be interested to see how hard it would be to upgrade certain essential sw
<Wizzup>
I know the main focus is to stay compatible with current maemo apps (very sensible), but I can also see myself being interested not so much in backwards compat with everything but base components, and instead focussing on updated/secure OS sw
<Wizzup>
And porting applications from the pkgman where necessary/required (since most is foss I'd think it is not too hard)
<Wizzup>
Also switching to a much newer gcc for example, but also newer openssl(or even libressl?),openssh,X,etc