DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #neo900 to: http://neo900.org | conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23neo900/ and http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900
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<DocScrutinizer05> it's not my box. Tim Riker needs to do this
<DocScrutinizer05> I only have very limited access to send a restart command for bot service
<DocScrutinizer05> ssh ibot AT riker org NOTRELEVANTCOMMAND
<DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/29/plasma-desktoptw1950.png :-S prestashop is really a PITA - yet: http://privatepaste.com/422479e31c
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<Openbot> infobot :(
<DocScrutinizer05> well, happens every now and then. I hope Tim will give it a hard reset eventually
<Openbot> lets all disconnect from irc for 2 minutes
<DocScrutinizer05> sorry?
<Openbot> in mourn
<Openbot> :p
<Openbot> anyway a lil problem here
<Openbot> n900 acting strange
<Openbot> when charger connected the metel rim gives shocks
<Openbot> been same on al my n900s
<Openbot> why
<Openbot> also there is humming noise in earphones when charger connected
<Openbot> whats wrong
<Openbot> docscrutinizer05 ^
<DocScrutinizer05> get a decent charger!!! URGENTLY
<DocScrutinizer05> your charger is dangerously defect
<Openbot> ya my charger is cheap and 800mah too
<DocScrutinizer05> and connects mains voltage to output
<DocScrutinizer05> :-O
<Openbot> explain pls
<Openbot> how to know a charger is good oe bad
<DocScrutinizer05> when you get electric shock from M900 then that means the charger feeds HIGH voltage to USB ground
<Openbot> aha
<Openbot> that should not happen
<DocScrutinizer05> no, absolutely not
<Openbot> i know lil but i know gnd is gnd
<DocScrutinizer05> with the right earphones, you have an almost perfect electrocution device
<Openbot> my earphones got a metel rim too hope its not connected :p
<DocScrutinizer05> destroy and discard that USB charger, get a good one! please!
<Openbot> i saw what happend when i foolishly was desoldering rx tx gnd lines on a china phone board while connected to box
<Openbot> okay
<Openbot> thanx too
<Openbot> now i double check before de soldering anything
<Openbot> btw how to know charger would be good
<DocScrutinizer05> touch the metal of USB jack
<Openbot> the one i ll get now
<DocScrutinizer05> or get a known good brand
<Openbot> humm i ll lick the rim to check then
<Openbot> 1a or more as i ofen get device using more power then ........
<DocScrutinizer05> I strongly recommend to rather use voltmeter or worst case RIGHT hand finger
<Openbot> right hand finger ?
<wpwrak> less close to the main pump :)
<DocScrutinizer05> do NOT lick the USB jack rim
<DocScrutinizer05> yes
<Openbot> wpwrak? ?
<DocScrutinizer05> hmm?
<wpwrak> Openbot: if significant current passes that way, contact could electrocute you
<Openbot> you mean liking is bad i should use finger
<wpwrak> Openbot: and especially if your heart is between the point of contact and ground
<DocScrutinizer05> RIGHT hand
<Openbot> aha never considerd that as until now i used my tounge to check low voltage stuff
<wpwrak> that said, power supplies that "feel bad" are often safe for humans. but they can still kill electronics. but then, better not to take unnecessary risks.
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<Openbot> ok man
<Openbot> i never thought that
<wpwrak> the most common problem is that the power supply lets a bit of current through, usually due to sloppy design. and usually not enough to harm a person. but then there are some that are badly broken and that let plenty of current through. i.e., they can kill people.
<wpwrak> chances are that yours is "safe" for you (though you can't really tell, and it may change, depending on what causes the presence of high voltage - i.e., it could be a developing problem, or something that stays constant over time). but i would worry very much about your n900.
<wpwrak> so by the time you determine that it may electrocute your n900, you don't really need to probe any further :)
<Openbot> wpwrak why worry on my n900:(?
<Openbot> i got only one in top condition
<Openbot> its shiny too
<Openbot> lat me walk a couple of meters
<wpwrak> your body is likely to resist considerably stronger electrical abuse than the delicate electronics of your n900 :)
<Openbot> and i smashed the goddamm charger on the floor
<wpwrak> good. don't forget to put it in the trash. and maybe make sure nobody fishes it out, thinking it may still work :)
<Openbot> it didnt break properly so i am taking it outside to smash the ramains with a rock
<wpwrak> excellent. that should do it.
<Openbot> hehe
<DocScrutinizer05> afk, customs fun II
<Openbot> btw nobody of you explained why right hand
<wpwrak> party time ! :)
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<wpwrak> Openbot: i did :) charger -> right hand -> lungs -> feet -> ground vs. charger -> left hand -> heart -> feet -> ground
<Openbot> lol i need to shell out some money on a decent charger on my extremly tight buget now :(
<wpwrak> of course, if your holding a grounded wire in your left hand while probing something with your right hand, then that doesn't work ...
<wpwrak> so the general rule is that, when dealing with potentially dangerous voltages, one hand stays in your pocket
<Openbot> aha
<Openbot> still hazy through
<Openbot> charger smashed completely now :D
<Openbot> got it
<Openbot> infobot come soon
<Openbot> bye
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<Openbot> and thanks wpwrak
<Openbot> bbl
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<DocScrutinizer51> indeed, infobot is missing
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<DocScrutinizer51> parcel still here, and the guy who stashed it on his window board also knows that *I* am here too :)
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<DocScrutinizer51> ~wb
<infobot> thx
<DocScrutinizer51> mission accomplished :)
<DocScrutinizer51> 250 speakers
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<varu> lol!
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<DocScrutinizer05> [2015-04-29 Wed 08:56:45] <TimRiker> not sure what was up with the bot. connection was up, ssh working for me, but the bot was in limbo. HUP and it's coming back on.
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<DocScrutinizer05> http://www.wetteronline.de/wetter/kiew winds from south, OK for me
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<ilon> DocScrutinizer05: thats a nice way to deliver a package :)
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