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<bencoh> :]
<DocScrutinizer05> actually 128 is quite in vicinity
<DocScrutinizer05> http://privatepaste.com/3da4fdd87a :-D
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<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: and what is attached to serial port?
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<freemangordon> oh, it is in the backlog
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<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: http://pastebin.com/LLvJSH2D :D
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<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: could you switch rs cable to the pimped board?
<DocScrutinizer05> yes
<DocScrutinizer05> done
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<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: ^^^
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<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: Pali: I switched to rsyslog and set permissions for /var/log/messages accordingly for you guys to access it
<DocScrutinizer05> I added a uSD with dunnowhat OS system to the BB_plain
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<DocScrutinizer05> ok, whatever USB driver installed on that uSD in xloader, uBoot or probably linus, it results in
<DocScrutinizer05> 2015-04-13T13:36:17.380717+02:00 europa kernel: [ 3938.146595] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/8, error -32
<DocScrutinizer05> and due to the SYSBOOT config the BB_plain doesn't even talk at all to USB before loading end running that lnux(?) from uSD card
<kerio> rip
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<DocScrutinizer05> NB *same* board with *same* USB cable and all - when restting it without uSD inserted - shows
<DocScrutinizer05> 2015-04-13T13:34:04.178516+02:00 europa kernel: [ 3804.683428] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 35 using xhci_hcd
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<DocScrutinizer05> 2015-04-13T13:34:04.343396+02:00 europa kernel: [ 3804.848545] usb 1-1: unable to get BOS descriptor
<DocScrutinizer05> 2015-04-13T13:34:04.344532+02:00 europa kernel: [ 3804.849536] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=d00e
<DocScrutinizer05> 2015-04-13T13:34:04.344559+02:00 europa kernel: [ 3804.849545] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=33, Product=37, SerialNumber=0
<DocScrutinizer05> 2015-04-13T13:34:04.344564+02:00 europa kernel: [ 3804.849551] usb 1-1: Product: OMAP3630
<DocScrutinizer05> 2015-04-13T13:34:04.344567+02:00 europa kernel: [ 3804.849559] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Texas Instruments
<DocScrutinizer05> so it's *clearly* a sw problem with the sw on that uSD
<kerio> install a better os on it
<DocScrutinizer05> I'm not the one to install OS on those targets. It's fmg and pali who upload software via USB
<kerio> can you write to the uSD from the computer
<kerio> right now
<kerio> through jtag or whatever
<DocScrutinizer05> sure I can do whatever I want to the uSD in card reader on my PC
<DocScrutinizer05> no
<kerio> no i mean while it's in the bb
<kerio> shame
<kerio> thankfully we have BotScrutinizer05
<DocScrutinizer05> uSD is basically out of scope since this job is about coldflashing
<kerio> oh, quite easy then
<kerio> no manual intervention required
<DocScrutinizer05> exactly
<DocScrutinizer05> status update: no more uSD on BB_plain right now
<DocScrutinizer05> on BB_pimped that problem doesn't even exist since the uSD slot is broken
<DocScrutinizer05> plus the SYSBOOT is tweaked to always boot from USB first, even when a uSD would be inserted
<kerio> who broke it D:
<DocScrutinizer05> the rework of PoP
<kerio> did you do it
<DocScrutinizer05> no
<kerio> what noob can't even resolder a few hundred pins without breaking something else
<DocScrutinizer05> it been done by a guy at a company which has a PL650 rework station
<Humpelstilzchen> he should have used a weller product :P
<DocScrutinizer05> hehe
<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: ok, going to try
<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: 2 boards, two reset commands, two USB connects, RS232 hooked to BB_pimped
<freemangordon> good
<DocScrutinizer05> no uSD in BB_plain
<DocScrutinizer05> system on europe changed to use rsyslog and /var/log/messages
<DocScrutinizer05> think that's more conventient than friggin dmesg
<DocScrutinizer05> or even journalctrl
<DocScrutinizer05> less /var/log/messages should work for you guys
<freemangordon> hmm, doesn't work :(
<DocScrutinizer05> hmm?
<DocScrutinizer05> rs232?
<freemangordon> u-boot
<kerio> *tail -f
<DocScrutinizer05> ooh
<freemangordon> but serial loader works
<DocScrutinizer05> at least
<DocScrutinizer05> uBoot is sw ;-)
<freemangordon> yep, and this is all I need :D
<DocScrutinizer05> not exactly my doman :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> I'll get you decent RS232 now
<freemangordon> uboot is 2nd stage, first stage works and allows me to load the 2nd stage via kermit
<DocScrutinizer05> wow!!! what a result already
<freemangordon> yep
<freemangordon> 1st stage got loaded to SDRAM by BR
* freemangordon is afk for a couple of minutes
<DocScrutinizer05> o/
<bencoh> BR ?
<bencoh> bootrom ?
<DocScrutinizer05> yep
<bencoh> what's sitting there ? some TI blob fetching a bootloader from the begining of the flash ?
<bencoh> (s/bootloader/boot sequence/)
<bencoh> nevermind, I've just read wiki.ti.com :)
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<DocScrutinizer05> omappedia ;-)
<bencoh> :)
<DocScrutinizer05> see updated http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1466445
<bencoh> DocScrutinizer05: offtopic, but do you have a downloads.maemo.nokia.com mirror ?
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<DocScrutinizer05> err, I don't know what exactly been on downloads.m.n.o
<DocScrutinizer05> I guess it must have been the base repos, no?
<DocScrutinizer05> anyway I personally don't have a mirror
<DocScrutinizer05> err downloads.m.n.c
<DocScrutinizer05> a short talk to aunt google for example revealed http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/skel/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/004/
<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: http://pastebin.com/p6tjX8qU
<freemangordon> :)
<DocScrutinizer05> WOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!
* DocScrutinizer05 updates the updated update ;-D
<freemangordon> but ofc nothing in nand, so it hangs
<DocScrutinizer05> sure
<freemangordon> now will try if I can write something and read it back
<DocScrutinizer05> :-D
<bencoh> DocScrutinizer05: yeah, mirrors.muarf.org is mine ;)
<bencoh> but I'm missing ovi and regional stuff (even though some of the regional repos are present)
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<DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: I know we once had *comprehensive* backups on skeiron, before it got taken down thanks to bullying by HiFo
<DocScrutinizer05> I also know the backups from skeiron are supposed to still exist
<bencoh> not exactly, no
<DocScrutinizer05> on some 100TB HDD rack
<bencoh> oh, maybe
<bencoh> webarchive has some of the skeiron stuff online, but the d.m.n.c mirrors are not part of it ... dunno about offline ressources
<DocScrutinizer05> query brkn or thedead1440, or send them a mail
<DocScrutinizer05> brkn has *awesome* backup facilities
<bencoh> DocScrutinizer05: we might wait a few days and/or send a mail to nokia/hifo (meh), but it looks like it (m.n.c) has been taken down
<DocScrutinizer05> it for sure has been taken down
<DocScrutinizer05> expected to happen
<bencoh> I mean, even the maemo5 part of d.m.n.c
<bencoh> yeah
<DocScrutinizer05> i noticed none of the base repos being available anymore when I updated recently
<DocScrutinizer05> nokia had a record to terminate product support on all levels even just as short as 2 years after product launch
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<DocScrutinizer05> I don't expect that to get any better with nokia now being M$
<bencoh> the question is whether we can host it
<DocScrutinizer05> no, officialy we mustn't
<DocScrutinizer05> inofficially though...
<bencoh> meh
<DocScrutinizer05> HiFo will go mad at you when you ask them about it
<DocScrutinizer05> which is why skeiron ceased to exist
<bencoh> the official nokia repos were still alive at that point
<bencoh> I think hosting it falls under "preserve the maemo.org infrastructure" now
<DocScrutinizer05> well, they were *again* alive at that point
<bencoh> true
<DocScrutinizer05> and some of HiFo treated me like Dr Mabuse
<DocScrutinizer05> just because I once mentioned that I *financially* support the skeiron effort
<bencoh> (btw I know this is a bit offtopic here -apart from freemantle-)
<DocScrutinizer05> well, it's sufficiently on topic since Neo900 is meant to run maemo5-fremantle
<DocScrutinizer05> (how to read) Nokia *explicitly* never granted permission to host any of their (C) stuff
<DocScrutinizer05> and though I don't know of nokia explicitly complaining about e.g. skeiron, some in HiFo were practicing anticipatory obedience and bullied me since I publicly stated that I once transferred from *my private money* to the crew that operated skeiron
<DocScrutinizer05> woody even going to the extreme of claiming he could do time in jail for just talking to me - OH MY!!
<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: did you change something rs232?
<DocScrutinizer05> no
<freemangordon> ok
<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: not even got near it
<DocScrutinizer05> during last 60min at least
<freemangordon> ok
<DocScrutinizer05> shall I check or mate-cycle or reset anything for you?
<freemangordon> no, it is ok now
<DocScrutinizer05> :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> good
<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: btw *if* you knew how to switch on/off VBUS of PC's USB host jacks, you could do even more sophisticated stuff I guess
<DocScrutinizer05> I tried to find out if and how that's possible, but in vain
<freemangordon> maybe reprobing the usb driver
<DocScrutinizer05> I *guess* there's a BIOS setting whether USB host ports are powered or not during suspend mode of PC
<DocScrutinizer05> and afaik there's also a way to configure same thing in windows OS
<DocScrutinizer05> but I stopped digging into that when I decided to rather use hardwired reset and switching the external power on BB_plain
<DocScrutinizer05> on a sidenote: seems USB<->rs232 adapters get out of fashion slowly
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<kerio> oh btw i don't have a mirror anymore
<kerio> moved servers n stuff
<kerio> do we need one
<kerio> where do i take the files from
<enyc> DocScrutinizer05: oh? what do you mean out of fashion? whats used instead? etc
<DocScrutinizer05> enyc: I just notice they are not on shelf usually, which means they are not sold that much anymore
<enyc> DocScrutinizer05: hrrm ok
<enyc> DocScrutinizer05: I guess USB-TTL is more useful now
<merlin1991> well usb<->rs232 are still that one plsomething chip all the time
<bencoh> pl2303
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<DocScrutinizer51> merlin1991: don't you have mirrors of downloads.maemo.nokia.com?
<merlin1991> but not publicly available
<DocScrutinizer51> :nod:
<kerio> fair
<kerio> soooo
<kerio> what do we use
<DocScrutinizer51> hmm?
<DocScrutinizer51> kerio: what for?
<kerio> dmnc
<DocScrutinizer51> I'm quite confident there will emerge several publicly available mirrors soon
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<bencoh> I'd rather have a (semi)-official, but ... meh :/
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<DocScrutinizer51> freemangordon: anyway you soon will have decent RS232 on DUT
<DocScrutinizer51> unless this time somebody lifts my backpack before I arrive at home ;)
<freemangordon> :)
<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: actually it seems this one works ok, it was a SW problem. as usual :D
<DocScrutinizer51> sure, never doubt my ugly hw hacksL ;D
<DocScrutinizer51> you seen the mess in newly added photo on tmo?
<DocScrutinizer51> NB how both RX and TX have a parallel GND wire while the DB9 jack offers only one GND cut-fork
<DocScrutinizer51> for one wire
<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: I'd like to swap the RS232 cable on Bb_pimped for a decent one. Please holler when it's ok for you
<freemangordon> do it now
<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: ^^^
<merlin1991> DocScrutinizer05: which tmo thread actually?
<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: done
<DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991: sorry?
<DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991: context?
<merlin1991> newly added photo
<DocScrutinizer05> ooh
<merlin1991> displaying your glorious hack
<merlin1991> thanks
<DocScrutinizer05> yw :)
<merlin1991> if only the base were an ix and not ct ;)
<merlin1991> but I have to say the rs232 cable is about the level I've done a lot of rs485 cables when working with electical meters
<merlin1991> as long as the distance is short enough it usually works just fine :D
<merlin1991> but it sucks when you run into troubles because then always the game of is it the cable or really the hw starts..
<merlin1991> btw the board options, how "hard" will it be to fix that up into an okish n900? Because I have 2 n900 here with nice screen and everything but dead modem
<freemangordon> ok, enough for now, lets have some foosball time :)
<DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991: please rephrase your question
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<merlin1991> okay less german -> english voddo
<merlin1991> *voodoo*
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<DocScrutinizer05> what you want to do?
<merlin1991> so I basically have a n900 here that works flawless except the modem, hence I don't see the point of investing 150€ into yet another refurbished one, so how would I go about that?
<DocScrutinizer05> get a NeoN board and do the swap yourself, it's easy
<merlin1991> so it's just board swap nothing else?
<DocScrutinizer05> yes
<DocScrutinizer05> basically
<merlin1991> attach screen and done?
<DocScrutinizer05> yes
<DocScrutinizer05> a tiny bit of scarving to male the USB fit maybe
<DocScrutinizer05> make*
<DocScrutinizer05> you know we go to micro-AB receptacle that's a tiny bit larger than what N900 has
* merlin1991 now wonders how many boards to buy, there's more than one modem dead n900 here ...
<DocScrutinizer05> and there may be other case resections you might or might not want to do, to make use of e.g. second SIM slot or whatever else we come up with
<merlin1991> and I will for soure end up having at least one device that is total hacking area, so do I need a *daily use* one aswell, hm
<merlin1991> *sure*
<DocScrutinizer05> hehe
<bencoh> :]
<bencoh> and I guess you still want a working n900 "just in case" :)
<merlin1991> my pet project would be to take the bsp and build a new rootfs based on what is left of the corida sources on github
<merlin1991> bencoh: I'll need 2 n900s ad infinitum
<bencoh> :-)
<merlin1991> gotta keep doing cssu-s and cssu-t ...
<bencoh> haha, true
<merlin1991> then again I do own 4 n900
<bencoh> we'd find you anywhere to keep that maintained ;)
<merlin1991> okay time for some monday evening socializing, I'm already 1 hour late xD
<DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: BB_plain attached to USB<->RS232
<DocScrutinizer05> >>pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0<< so watch out which ttyUSB to use when talking to BB-usb directly
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<DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991: better? http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20150413_005.jpg ;-)
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<merlin1991> DocScrutinizer05: yep better ;)
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<freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: /me likes it :)
<DocScrutinizer05> ?
<freemangordon> the picture
<DocScrutinizer05> aah :)
<freemangordon> will continue tomorrow, too much Jack right now :)
<bencoh> :]
<DocScrutinizer05> :)
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<DocScrutinizer05> awesome snipped of script code: http://privatepaste.com/4d5ff160f2
<DocScrutinizer05> snippet*
<merlin1991> wtf
<merlin1991> that looks like what autotools produces for ./configure, ON DRUGS!
<DocScrutinizer05> dunno how many scripts I already patched for tail -1 -> tail -n 1
<DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991: it's from a thing called
<DocScrutinizer05> # USE.SH - InstallAnywhere (tm) UNIX Self Extractor Version 14.0
<DocScrutinizer05> #
<DocScrutinizer05> # (c) Copyright 2012 Flexera Software LLC All rights reserved.
<DocScrutinizer05> as the name suggests, it's obviously meant to run on basically all known unix flavors
<DocScrutinizer05> which is quite a bold call
<DocScrutinizer05> hehe http://privatepaste.com/5d571b2fc5
<pigeons> heh so i don't meed all that long autoconf stuff
<DocScrutinizer05> merlin1991: anyway <http://www.online-usv.de/downloads/bedienungsanleitungen/Anleitung fuer DW Linux Console 20140528.pdf> and the >50MB tarball called upsinst64.tar
<DocScrutinizer05> the funny file is in that tarball and called installups,an.bin
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<DocScrutinizer05> btw all this triggered by looking into getting a ' USV 1400 VA AEG Power Solutions PROTECT A.1400'
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