DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #neo900 to: http://neo900.org | conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23neo900/ and http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900
vakkov has joined #neo900
norly has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
rjeffries__ has joined #neo900
Humpelst1lzchen has joined #neo900
ShadowJK_ has joined #neo900
lobito1 has joined #neo900
Humpelstilzchen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
infobot has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
ShadowJK has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
lobito has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
MonkeyofDoom has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
MonkeyofDoom has joined #neo900
infobot has joined #neo900
rjeffries__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
rjeffries has joined #neo900
unclouded has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
jonsger has joined #neo900
arcean has joined #neo900
paulk-collins has joined #neo900
ecloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
jonsger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
ecloud has joined #neo900
Pali has joined #neo900
unclouded has joined #neo900
sparetire has quit [Quit: sparetire]
jonsger has joined #neo900
arcean has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
Pali has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Pali has joined #neo900
arcean has joined #neo900
vakkov has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
vakkov has joined #neo900
ecloud has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
ecloud has joined #neo900
mva has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
vakkov has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
vakkov has joined #neo900
<wpwrak> thanks ;-) now let's see how many bugs DocScrutinizer05 fishes out of that data set ...
<DocScrutinizer05> :-D
<specing> nomes est omen
<specing> nomen*
<DocScrutinizer05> prolly none, your evaluation been thorough and well thought
<DocScrutinizer05> and actually dos1 did 95% of the verification/correction work for all that stuff
<DocScrutinizer05> ...during the past - like checking for correct email addr, asking back to donor when unclear etc
<x29a> whats the worst case if all of those getting an email withdrawn their money?
<x29a> like how much of the funds could be affected?
<DocScrutinizer05> withdrawing funds is not really an option
<DocScrutinizer05> we send out vouchers that give credits for purchases
<x29a> ah ok, i misunderstood then, i thought ppl with unclear amounts of money would get the choice to get it back
<x29a> no withdrawel of funds: good :)
<DocScrutinizer05> the funds so far been "donations" originally and we transferred that into loans refundable at ordering time of final device
norly has joined #neo900
rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
rjeffries has joined #neo900
mva has joined #neo900
mva has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
mva has joined #neo900
rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
rjeffries has joined #neo900
vakkov has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
vakkov has joined #neo900
<ilon> DocScrutinizer05: This makes me so happy, from my point of view you seem to pull it off! :)
<DocScrutinizer05> well, progress is always slower than we hope for, but that's a very common thing in such projects. We actually see constant progress however, and that's a good thing
<ilon> Thats a good thing indeed.
<ilon> And I'm a rather patient guy when it comes to products I really want.
<ilon> And yes, delays are the norm.
<DocScrutinizer05> looking forward to source NNN devices N900 for all those who want a complete device - this cures some severe headache we had with sourcing the N900 "mech parts" up til now
<DocScrutinizer05> also looking forward to 500 chips 1GB RAM/NAND PoP MCP arriving soonish
<ilon> :D
<ilon> I'll have to set up a Asterisk server if i want to go back to single sim phone tho :/
<DocScrutinizer05> hmmm, single SIM? why?
<DocScrutinizer05> you're using two phone numebrs/SIM?
<ilon> yes
<ilon> Been on dual sim phones since the radio on my last n900 went south
<DocScrutinizer05> maybe the dualSIM-coldswap feature of Neo900 could do along with a simple call forwarding from SIM2 to SIM1?
<ilon> I kind of "need" DSDS
<DocScrutinizer05> for outbound calls you swap to SIM" when needed, for inbound calls the forwarding would make calls to SIM2 arrive at SIM1
<DocScrutinizer05> s/SIM"/SIM2/
<ilon> I'm using data on one plan (which is for my company), and primary calling from my private number
<ilon> also, need incomming SMS on both
<DocScrutinizer05> aaah ok, that gets a tad tricky
<ilon> yeah
<ilon> I'm kinda forced to carry two phones, or on dual sim
<ilon> one*
<ilon> at least the current customer does not force a third phone on me like some of the previous ones
<DocScrutinizer05> it's a pity Gemalto (or rather qualcom?) didn't consider any support for DSDS yet :-/
<ilon> People just want fancier speeds, not fancier functionality
<DocScrutinizer05> anyway at least for SMS you *could* (in theory) implement "userland DSDS" by cold-swapping SIM every 5 minutes for 10s. It would introduce quite a number of issues though
<ilon> yeah, feels like setting up an asterisk server with GSM extension is easier.
<DocScrutinizer05> issue 1: not available during the 10-x seconds of polling the SMS SIM
<DocScrutinizer05> issue2: the constant re-authenticating on 2 networks every 5 minutes eats quite some energy and this standby time is not optimal
<DocScrutinizer05> issue 3: the SMs take 0 - 5 minutes to arrive
vakkov has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
<DocScrutinizer05> (well, SMS never been guaranteed to arrive realime anyway, despite everybody thinks they should)
<DocScrutinizer05> ((asterisk with GSM)) interesting concept
* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonder if text messaging is a commonly supported feature in SIP now. Technically it worked 6 or 8 years ago already, iirc via SIP-INFO
<DocScrutinizer05> sipgate.de back when could send SMS from SIP-INFO, but not receive
<DocScrutinizer05> ilon: may I query you and nag with a few questions?
vakkov has joined #neo900
<ilon> DocScrutinizer05: Just shoot. My answers might be sporadic and somewhat unclear tho (I'm somewhat sick and trying to kick up a NAS at the moment)
<ilon> DocScrutinizer05: Well, there are some nice GSM hardware nowdays that have the ability to do both voice and SMS
<ilon> DocScrutinizer05: that people have got working with asterisk
<ilon> DocScrutinizer05: But they should be considered as backdoored ofc.
<DocScrutinizer05> :nod:
<DocScrutinizer05> please see /query
arossdotme has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
sparetire has joined #neo900
nox- has joined #neo900
rjeffries_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
arcean has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
lobito1 is now known as lobito
paulk-collins has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
<DocScrutinizer05> ilon: thanks!
Pali has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
norly has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
vakkov has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
GoGi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
GoGi has joined #neo900
rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
rjeffries has joined #neo900
arossdotme has joined #neo900