* DocScrutinizer05
wonders what's been Nokia's excuse for not FOSSing clockd >:-(
<DocScrutinizer05>
"too smart to share it with community" ?
<DocScrutinizer05>
aiui clockd should be the magic little thing that slightly adjusts timer expiration times so the CPU gets lower count of wake events since several timers expire same at point in time
<DocScrutinizer05>
if that's correct then clockd has massive impact on standby time
<DocScrutinizer05>
then clockd also talks to a number of stratums (like GSM time bradcast) to adjust RTC
<DocScrutinizer05>
I guess
<DocScrutinizer05>
broadcast even
<DocScrutinizer05>
all no rocket science
<DocScrutinizer05>
the whole RTC adjust should get done in ntp anyway
<DocScrutinizer05>
with GSM and GPS exposing ntp server stratums
<DocScrutinizer05>
http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/clockd/ BS: >>Cellular service daemon: Sends "network time changed" signal when operator time/timezone has been received from vellnet (when attached to network)<<. As said above this should be "public" by csd (or whomever) exposing a ntp stratum
<DocScrutinizer05>
nfc why clockd needs a "hideen" API for that
<DocScrutinizer05>
"hidden"*
<DocScrutinizer05>
as in: >> daemon |clockd!<------!csd! <<
<DocScrutinizer05>
Pali: freemangordon: ^^^
<DocScrutinizer05>
~wtf vellnet
<infobot>
Gee... I don't know what vellnet means...
<freemangordon>
DocScrutinizer05: REing clockd is a matter of few days. If needed
<DocScrutinizer05>
freemangordon: gathered as much. And yes, I think it's needed
<DocScrutinizer05>
well, not strictly needed since we prolly also could use the blob
<DocScrutinizer05>
but the blob tries to talk to csd
<freemangordon>
hmm, prolly wants some GSM time
<DocScrutinizer05>
wich is a BAD thing to do, particularly the way this blob does it
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, of course for GSM time
<DocScrutinizer05>
see my notes about ntp stratum above
<freemangordon>
sorry, too "tired" now to read the backscroll or whatever notes :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
if anything, clockd should talk to ntpd
<freemangordon>
:nod:
<freemangordon>
ok, will see what could be done
<DocScrutinizer05>
ntpd should talk to a ntp startum exposed by whatever does servie for modem
<DocScrutinizer05>
stratum*
<freemangordon>
DocScrutinizer05: though we really should try to find at least one more guy with REing skills
<DocScrutinizer05>
sure. but that's a really difficult task
<freemangordon>
don;t ask me how we should do that
<freemangordon>
yeah, I know
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, exactly
<DocScrutinizer05>
I dunno if I could hire a few devels in china
<freemangordon>
the point is that - REing is slow process, and it is not that smart if I commit all my spare time to it
<DocScrutinizer05>
:nod:
<freemangordon>
maybe when there is a real HW, so we have the whole (or nearly the whole) picture
<DocScrutinizer05>
for clockd it's rather implementong anew according to a comprehensive spec (even .h files existing)
<freemangordon>
ok, will see what could be done
<DocScrutinizer05>
there is already real hw: two beagleboards
<freemangordon>
well, there is no UI I can see :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
for the low level stuff you don't need an UI yet
<DocScrutinizer05>
;-)
<freemangordon>
anyway, going afk, as I said, I am a bit "tired" :)
<freemangordon>
night
<DocScrutinizer05>
when it actually brings up X11 server on the BB, I can send screenshots (real camera ones) of my TV ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
freemangordon: enjoy yourself
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-D
<DocScrutinizer05>
(screenshots) I might even find a hw based method to allow real time live video from the VGA output of BB (or *maybe* even the HDMI output)
<DocScrutinizer05>
vnc also should work, no?
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<DocScrutinizer05>
((find a hw based method)) sounds like Nokia Remote Device Access, eh? ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
we urgently need: more BeagleBoard-xM, even used, even with defect CPU
<DocScrutinizer05>
@EVERYBODY: we urgently need: more BeagleBoard-xM, even used, even with defect CPU
<DocScrutinizer05>
when you know somebody owning a BB-xM, please ask her or him if they would be willing to sell it to us
<Wizzup>
have you considered putting that on the website?
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, still considering it
<Wizzup>
I presume you also queried TI? or is that weird?
<DocScrutinizer05>
TI doesn't sell them
<Wizzup>
yeah, sorry
<Wizzup>
found a page of them that stated they did
<DocScrutinizer05>
the manufacturer says they woukd build some more when sufficient request, but that been some 6 or so months ago
<Wizzup>
[not when you click on the actual image, but in the search results it allows you to add -- mostly a weird interface I guess]
<Wizzup>
(you can set language = english on the website)
<Wizzup>
Hope this helps
<DocScrutinizer05>
thanks, will check
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-)
* Wizzup
off to bed :-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
o/
<Wizzup>
p.s. I went through the entire list, should finally mention this one, but they mention no stock and also have no 'easy' way to order (you have to contact them): http://www.idasystems.net/products/beagle_board