<DocScrutinizer05>
seems it's in effect since start of the year
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<stevend>
(sd trademark) In the US at least, just because something is trademarked doesn't mean you can't use it. The purpose of trademark in US law is to protect the customer from confusion. So long as you are clear that you are not Sandisk, affiliated or endosed by Sandisk, or are offering a Sandisk product under any of their trademarks, then you should be fine (though IANAL). Plenty of products say "such and such compatible", for example.
<stevend>
Moron*
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<DocScrutinizer05>
huh?
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, you'd think that's a "fair use" or whatever. but it seems there are issues with some of those trademarks that you must not claim your product was compatible unless you got approval from the license owners
<DocScrutinizer05>
moron??
<DocScrutinizer05>
some part message? (I don't see those)
<DocScrutinizer05>
(SD) anyway it seems the indiscriminate us of terms like "SD slot" is a nasty pitfall that can break your neck. Dunno, "memory card slot compatible to SD" may or may not be allowed
<stevend>
(SD) "A moron in a hurry" is an oft-cited rule of thumb in trademark law, that something is not a violation if it would only confuse a moron in a hurry. "Fair use" is something only applicable to copyright, as the use of trademarks in general is not restricted.
<stevend>
A specific company might have a policy of demanding their approval to claim compatibility, but they have no legal grounds to do so. However, in the US most civil court cases are wars of attrition, so effectively you can get sued by anyone for anything at any time (almost) so long as they have the resources to do so.
<stevend>
I think calling it a "SD slot" would probably be a trademark violation, but saying "memory card slot compatible to SD" would not be. I suspect that if you emailed the EFF and explained that you were a developer for the Neo900 they would give you some information on what is permitted and advisable.
<stevend>
I think that if the Neo900 project gets sued, it would probably be over patents, and there is nothing (effectively) you can do about that.
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<ssddkkaall>
hi
<ssddkkaall>
so will the neo900 have a 16 core SPARC T3 processor?
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<GMsoft>
some ppl are so funny ...
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<Wizzup>
hdmi out would still be awesome though
<Wizzup>
would definitely pay quite a bit more for that ...
<mvaenskae>
hdmi maybe not but displayport should be good to go; no licensing fees :)
<Wizzup>
mvaenskae: right, same thing for me; I just meant digital output
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<mvaenskae>
i am not sure if the gpu can handle it though; iirc it cannot handle two outputs at once :/
<mvaenskae>
the guys working on the hardware know more about it, i just recall them talking about it :)
<Wizzup>
mvaenskae: doesn't matter ; one output is enough
<Wizzup>
That is, I don't care for the screen if the external is connected.
<Wizzup>
And if I want to get my internal back, just unplug the cable
<Wizzup>
Would definitely pay 50-100 euro more for that... :)
<mvaenskae>
i think the question many will have is "where does the output go without breaking the case?" :)
* Wizzup
doesn't mind breaking the case ;))))
<mvaenskae>
true, but what about the others? :)
<Wizzup>
Maybe it's possible to have it on the board and let people mod the case if they want to
<Wizzup>
I'm just dreaming, but it'd be awesome
<kerio>
that'd be so fucking expensive tho
<mvaenskae>
true, video out would be amazing, i have nothing against that but keeping in line with the neo900's philosphy to reuse the n900s case i sadly doubt it will happen :(
<Wizzup>
kerio: more than 50-100 euro? :)
<kerio>
maybe not 50
<kerio>
but i wouldn't be surprised that even just the extra R&D to add digital video out would boil down to like 20€/device
<sixwheeledbeast>
I see Brisbane enjoyed an early wake up call this morning, lol.
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<DocScrutinizer05>
hmm?
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<sixwheeledbeast>
A GSM network error caused all mobile phone clocks to switch DST on (Brisbane stopped using DST in the 70's I believe) this made alarm clocks wake people up an hour early.
<sixwheeledbeast>
Network providers offered free coffee as compensation
<kerio>
LOL
<bencoh>
:D
<mvaenskae>
sixwheeledbeast: that'll teach 'em to not use their phone as their alarm clock =p
<mvaenskae>
and i bet it was cold coffee
<kerio>
that'll teach them not to trust their phone network for stuff that matters
<kerio>
like time
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<mvaenskae>
i wonder what had happened if they were back 1h
<mvaenskae>
would have likely resultet in major layoffs :D
<arossdotme>
know of a CLI resistor calc?
<sixwheeledbeast>
:nod: I found it funny too. I use my N900 for alarm clock but I'm not stupid enough to go to work an hour early. Which was what most people complained about.
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<DocScrutinizer05>
CLI resistor calc?
<arossdotme>
a command line app to convert colour codes or resistors
<arossdotme>
and maybe calculations for working out resistor values
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<mvaenskae>
sixwheeledbeast: they didn't wonder WHY the sun wasn't as high as it was yesterday?