<DocScrutinizer05>
112:: fast to dial (in pulsecode): check. Safe against pocket dialing: check. Accepted worldwide;; 110: fast to dial (in pulsecode): kinda. Safe against pocket dialing: check. Known in Germany;; 911:: fast to dial (in pulsecode): kinda. Safe against pocket dialing: check. Known in USA;; 000:: fast to dial (in pulsecode): absolutely nope. Safe against pocket dialing: absolutely nope. Known in Australia
<DocScrutinizer05>
GMsoft: brilliant!
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<DocScrutinizer05>
from an arbitrary cellphone user manual (N900?): "your PIN shouldn't have any digits '1' or '2' in it, to avoid accidental dialing of emergency number '112' during entry of PIN". They might want to add the digits '0' and '9' to that list of deprecated digits, right? ;-P
<mvaenskae>
DocScrutinizer05: but... but bluetooth has the standart pairing 0000 D:
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<kerio>
what's pulsecode
<DocScrutinizer05>
can you dial emergency numbers from the BT pairing dialog? No! Can you dial emergency numbers from PIN entry dialog? You bet you can, on pretty much every cellphone that's existing
<DocScrutinizer05>
kerio: the opposite to DTMF
<kerio>
oh, the one that can't be done with mobile phones or voip phones
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes
<DocScrutinizer05>
however emergency numbers shouldn't be designed for mobile phones only
<kerio>
how's 911 designed for pulsecode
<kerio>
i mean, 000 is literally the worst choice for that, but still
<DocScrutinizer05>
well, it has two short digits (1) and only one lomg (9)
<DocScrutinizer05>
they opted for better protection against pocket dialing in trade off for a small increase of dialing time needed in pulsecode
<DocScrutinizer05>
911 has excellent pocket dialing protection
<DocScrutinizer05>
000 has zilch
<DocScrutinizer05>
of anything
<GMsoft>
how could they have thought about pocket protection when cellphones were not yet around when this number came up ?
<bencoh>
they just knew
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<DocScrutinizer05>
there been phones with 10key keyboard, long before anybody even thought about mobile phones outside car trunks
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<DocScrutinizer05>
and "pocked dial protection" rather is a general protection against accidental dialing, by pets, babies, people with parkinson, whatnot else
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<DocScrutinizer05>
pocket*
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<DocScrutinizer05>
the "112" number been in use in Germany since... prolly almost as long as telephones existed
<DocScrutinizer05>
traditionally originally assigned to Fire Brigade
<DocScrutinizer05>
the also for medical emergencies. And finally it replaced the Police emergency call number 110 as well, at least for mobile phones
<DocScrutinizer05>
funny enough 119 been the usual manual exchange and number info line, and 114 been technical service, for long time, until some 20(?) years ago they changed all that to 5 digit numbers
<kerio>
112, 113, 115 and 118 were separate numbers for various emergency services
<kerio>
now 112 also provide unified access to all emergency services
<kerio>
in italy, that is
<DocScrutinizer05>
oops, sorry s/119/118/
<kerio>
118 was the firefighters, i think
<kerio>
no wait, that's 115
<DocScrutinizer05>
119 been automatic time by voice
<DocScrutinizer05>
(114 is firefighters) I rather guess they routed 11* and 911 and - well - maybe even 000 all to the only correct 112
<sixwheeledbeast>
Well 999 is still in use and remembered in the UK. This was to rule out accidental dialling pre-DTMF.
<DocScrutinizer05>
alas no more POTS landline here, to test 114 with it
<DocScrutinizer05>
it's also virtually impossible to find authoritative info about cirrent set of special and emergency numbers :-/
<DocScrutinizer05>
current*
* DocScrutinizer05
ponders heading to next phonebooth (yes, there must be one, only 1000m away) and simply test there which numbers get accepted without payment
<DocScrutinizer05>
al the 113 114 118 etc numbers/services moved to 080033xxxxx long ago
<vakkov>
any idea if Z5210 can be obtained from somewhere :D
<vakkov>
and if the esd/emi is removed the phone should still boot?
<DocScrutinizer05>
sure
<DocScrutinizer05>
unless you fried the SoC with a surge to one of the uSD contacts
<DocScrutinizer05>
you could even gamble and short each in-out pair of the ESD prot chip to connect the uSD to SoC without any additional ESD
<DocScrutinizer05>
however note that the battery lid Hall sensor/switch also connects via that Z5210
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<Oksana>
Moin. Testing one thousand of phone numbers in phone booth? Ehh... First, that would take lots of time and patience. Second, that would trouble lots of emergency services (maybe, they would just send their people to the phone booth's location without listening, who knows). Third, wouldn't Internet-search be easier than walking to phone booth?
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<DocScrutinizer05>
Oksana: nope. I don't need to test 1000 numbers, since the phonebooth rejects a number on first incorrect digit I dial
<DocScrutinizer05>
so to find one valid 3 digit number I don't need to test mor than max 30 permutations
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