<Nuck>
devyn: There was a lot of random shit in there. I think Flash just rnadomly was putting things in there
<Nuck>
This is after I cleaned it out
<Nuck>
I left cia.gov in for lulz
<Nuck>
Also
<Nuck>
Don't do what I just did
<Nuck>
Be careful during the Arch update
<Nuck>
The merge of /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /bin, and /sbin can cause some, uh, explosions
<devyn>
the fuck, why would they do that
<Nuck>
Well, because they had no reason to leave them separate?
<devyn>
but POSIX
<Nuck>
Honestly, I agree with them. Shove the fucking binaries in one place
<Nuck>
devyn: As they pointed out, nobody followed the rules anyways
<Nuck>
So why even bother
<devyn>
it's true
<devyn>
but the FHS says: /bin = Essential command binaries that need to be available in single user mode
<devyn>
which makes sense
<devyn>
so why not just follow that
<Nuck>
They do!
<Nuck>
Well
<Nuck>
Sorta
<Nuck>
The way they have it configured, everything is symlinks to /usr/sbin
<devyn>
stupid.
<Nuck>
They plan to or did previously merge /usr/lib IIRC
<Nuck>
I disagree with the endpoint, I would've stuck to /bin
<devyn>
fyi /usr is meant for anything in multi-user mode (after the system is ready)
<Nuck>
And just put everything there
<Nuck>
Well yeah but that distinction only really mattered when we had to separate them onto separate drives or things like that - the arch init ramdisk already mounts /usr anywyas
<devyn>
it's still the guideline
<Nuck>
Well, fuck the guideline. It's stupid, it's artificial, and it doesn't make any sense.
<devyn>
I want an as-obvious-as-possible-while-being-compliant OS
<Nuck>
It's stuck in 20 years ago
<devyn>
not as-obvious-as-possible-while-pretending-to-be-compliant
<Nuck>
Fuck compliancy. Might as well just be complacency.
<devyn>
complacency is good
<devyn>
complacency is compatibility
<Nuck>
No, complacency sucks.
<Nuck>
If we can just symlink things into magically working, then good ;D
<purr>
<alexgordon> dude you've been using git longer than linus
<whitequark>
devyn: well, because there is no more need to have a "single user mode"
<devyn>
whitequark: what about emergency mode?
<whitequark>
devyn: what about it?
<devyn>
I knew you were going to say that
<devyn>
it's a single user mode
<devyn>
usually?
<whitequark>
well
<whitequark>
either you can't mount your disk partitions and drop to initrd
<whitequark>
or you can, and then you can as well mount /usr
<whitequark>
in practice, that happened for last decade or so anyway
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<purr>
<alexgordon> fuck C++ up the comma operator
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<purr>
<prophile> my epiglottis is full of bees
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<purr>
<micahjohnston___> elliottcable: bitch I have all three
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<Guest45302>
god dammit
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<vil>
there
<vil>
elliott leaves, the network goes down. coincidence?
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<vilhalmer>
gonna use this for a while I think
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<vil_>
gargleflargleblar
<vil_>
I'm going to take this instability as an opportunity to move my server. See you guys in a bit.
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<Willox_>
I like Splitville
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<alexgordon>
well I've more or less finished this week's work
<alexgordon>
PARTY
<joelteon>
PARTAAAY
<joelteon>
you know i hate encodings
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<alexgordon>
sup inferiors!
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<purr>
<alexgordon> elliottcable: no, my cock is a perfect rhombus
<alexgordon>
this is TRUE purr
<joelteon>
isn't a rhombus 2D?
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<purr>
<dxgriffiths> Variadic declare, it's like 'fire photon torpedoes'.
<alexgordon>
LOL
<purr>
LOL
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