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<joelteon> ok
<joelteon> vil: you disgusting fucking liar
<whitequark> wat
<joelteon> a zsh installation with no .zshrc whatsoever STILL redraws
<joelteon> i'm ruined
<whitequark> redraws?
<joelteon> clears below prompt
<whitequark> so
<whitequark> true and false
<whitequark> (And ((0 14) ((operator (5 8)))) (Truth ((0 4) ())) (Lies ((9 14) ())))
<joelteon> so you can't make an always-on-top prompt like that
<whitequark> writing a new parser for foundry.
<whitequark> True and False are reserved in ocaml, so...
<whitequark> Truth and Lies!
<joelteon> and bash doesn't have a feature for case insensitive completion
<joelteon> so......
<micahjohnston> I really really want to play bass guitar
<alexgordon> lol micahjohnston
<purr> lol
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: you're keyboards right?
<micahjohnston> and bass?
<micahjohnston> or what
<alexgordon> mainly bass
<micahjohnston> cool
<micahjohnston> bass is the best
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: indeed!
<joelteon> i am so leet
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: like I was playing bassy things on my guitar and then I really wanted to be playing a bass
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: haha
<alexgordon> I want a fretless bass, then I'll have the full set
<joelteon> well don't fret
<micahjohnston> fretless bass would be fucking fun
<alexgordon> can't beat my acoustic bass though <3
<jesusabdullah> I want a fretless 5 string acoustic :D
<alexgordon> lol as opposed to a fretted acoustic?
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> I played on a five-string *once*. It had five strings.
<jesusabdullah> yup, gotta have 5 strings
<jesusabdullah> I went 5 years ago
<jesusabdullah> never goin' back
<jesusabdullah> I might stick with frets though, I love fretless but I'm a terrible bass player
<micahjohnston> yeah fretless would also be lots harder
<micahjohnston> but slidely
<micahjohnston> slidey
<micahjohnston> sliding
<micahjohnston> cool sounds
<micahjohnston> sounds good
<micahjohnston> you know
<jesusabdullah> yes indeed
<jesusabdullah> whitequark: what form of lithp is that
<whitequark> jesusabdullah: just sexps
<whitequark> it's easiest to serialize random ocaml structures to sexps
<jesusabdullah> oh, ocaml sexp
<jesusabdullah> ruh-huh
<whitequark> no
<whitequark> simply sexps
<alexgordon> camel sex?
<whitequark> it is a serialization of Foundry's AST
<jesusabdullah> but sexps are a concept not an implementation :(
<whitequark> sexps are a data format
<joelteon> vil:
<joelteon> show me your thing again
<alexgordon> so I just googled "camel sex" and...
<jesusabdullah> okay, doing this
<alexgordon> jesusabdullah: good luck
<jesusabdullah> alexgordon I was disappointed there was no camel-on-camel action
<alexgordon> <jesus> brb, sexing camel
<vil> joelteon: wat
<joelteon> your dotfiles
<joelteon> nvm i found em
<vil> what about a clean install redrawing?
<vil> maybe I misunderstood what you meant be redraw
<vil> *by
<vil> what is it doing exactly
<joelteon> it's impossible to make a stick to the top prompt in zsh
<joelteon> so i'm doing it with bash instead
<joelteon> I just wanted your lscolors
<vil> what's a stick?
<joelteon> a stick is a verb
<vil> oh
<vil> I misprocessed that sentence, got it
<micahjohnston> who here has played ikachan
<micahjohnston> raise hands
<vil> that's a negatory, good buddy
<micahjohnston> it's by the cave story person
<micahjohnston> and very good and cute
<joelteon> ok
<joelteon> so
<joelteon> you can't do bash syntax highlighting
<joelteon> that sucks
<joelteon> but the only thing I really want is the git status traffic lights
<joelteon> green means something should be staged
<joelteon> yellow means modifications
<joelteon> red means new or deleted files
<joelteon> i need someone with good git fu to help me here
<vil> I didn't even know stick-to-top prompts were a thing
<joelteon> they're not really
<vil> I've never seen one
<vil> I think I'd rather have stick-to-bottom if anything
<joelteon> yeah that's way harder though
<micahjohnston> -song mr quiche
<vil> probably yeah
<purr> micahjohnston: “Mr. Quiche” by Wildcat! Wildcat!: <http://tinysong.com/XzjL>
<joelteon> so I know how to show if there are new files
<joelteon> no idea how to do the deleted ones
<joelteon> or the modifications
<micahjohnston> CURRENTLY HEAD EXPLOD
<joelteon> or the staged bit
<micahjohnston> becas of song
<joelteon> SOMEONE HELP
<joelteon> HELP
<vil> micahjohnston: listning to song
<micahjohnston> vil: good bassline + good epiano + good falsetto
<micahjohnston> bassline is best
<micahjohnston> the frontman plays bass
<micahjohnston> saw them live
<micahjohnston> opened for alt j
<micahjohnston> blew mind
<vil> god damn, original newton 2100 pen is $50
<vil> what is this crap
<joelteon> ok
<joelteon> so the easiest way would be
<micahjohnston> vil: why would you
<joelteon> newfiles=$(git status -s | grep -q '^ (D|A)')
<joelteon> and then changed=$(git status -s | grep -q '^ M')
<micahjohnston> apple products are better now than they were then
<joelteon> and I dunno the third one
<micahjohnston> :p
<vil> I want a Newton
<vil> they're cool
<joelteon> but...isn't that slow
<joelteon> you guys suck
<micahjohnston> WHY NOT GET AN IPAD
<micahjohnston> THERE COOLLER
<vil> had one
<vil> never used it much
<vil> except for Paper
<vil> I love that app
<micahjohnston> so why would you use a newton
<micahjohnston> BAM QED
<vil> I probably wouldn't
<vil> but it's still cool
<vil> I have a IIc sitting on my desk as well
<vil> micahjohnston: this is a good song
<micahjohnston> bbiab
<micahjohnston> vil: yeah I love it
<joelteon> okay, that really just wasn't gonna work out
<joelteon> back to the old zsh it is
<joelteon> vil you bigot
<joelteon> it wasn't oh-my-zsh's fault
<vil> I still don't understand the problem then I think
<vil> but oh-my-zsh is still bleh
<joelteon> yeah, but i like the plugins
<vil> I can't find a 2100 battery tray ANYWHERE
<vil> ಠ_ಠ
<vil> c'mon internet, you're supposed to have everything
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<micahjohnston> hi
<purr> micahjohnston: hi!
<micahjohnston> I WANT A BASS OF SOME SORT
<micahjohnston> i guess i will use a keyboard with big ol bassy patch
<micahjohnston> yknow
<micahjohnston> i just want to make big bass sounds
<micahjohnston> portamentoey subs
<micahjohnston> i am so excited
<micahjohnston> mgmt
<micahjohnston> the national
<micahjohnston> flaming lips
<micahjohnston> grizzly bear
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<micahjohnston> gtg
<micahjohnston> gnight
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<micahjohnston> hi
<purr> micahjohnston: hi!
<alexgordon> hi micahjohnston !
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: so, you can drink now! in most countries :D
<micahjohnston> 3 more years here though
<alexgordon> pfft, just go south of the border
<micahjohnston> well, I *could drink* before yesterday
<micahjohnston> :p
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<joelteon> vil: your zshrc is really cool
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: i have the least exceptions
<micahjohnston> :(
<alexgordon> :(
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: yeah but nevada is next door
<micahjohnston> although there are basically family exceptions because basically every friend i know whose family casually drinks has drunken significant amounts before
<micahjohnston> :p
<joelteon> i love unicode
<joelteon> god damn
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<prophile> -listening the frog song
<purr> prophile is listening to “The Gummy Bear Song”, by Crazy Frog
<prophile> is the wrong answer
<prophile> disappointing
<jesusabdullah> lol
<purr> lol
<jesusabdullah> no that's correct I remember
<jesusabdullah> he had a little pal, Scrappy Doo.
<whitequark> -song zombo.com
<purr> whitequark: “Heard It All Before (JBS Simba Zombo Relick)” by Jumping Back Slash: <http://tinysong.com/ZWaA>
<whitequark> noooo.
<jesusabdullah> hahaha
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<micahjohnston> this is ridiculous
<micahjohnston> I have a scholarship that requries me to be signed up for 15 credits in 3 days
<micahjohnston> but all my AP/IB tests don't come back for half a month
<micahjohnston> so I have to sign up for a bullshit schedule and change most of it
<alexgordon> :|
<alexgordon> I have no idea what you just said, but it sounds bad
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<jesusabdullah> lol
<purr> lol
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: AP and IB are high school classes for college credit
<micahjohnston> I took tons of them, but the results don't get back until halfway through July
<jesusabdullah> That's weak micahjohnston
<alexgordon> AP = advanced placement. I know that from reading reddit
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: but do what you gotta do
<micahjohnston> haha
<jesusabdullah> IB is "fake AP"
<micahjohnston> jesusabdullah: yeah mostly the problem is I don't know what to take because it'll change
<alexgordon> IB = international baccalaureate?
<micahjohnston> just dumb indecisiveness
<micahjohnston> jesusabdullah: how's it fake?
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: right
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: It's not XD
<micahjohnston> every IB class I've taken has been harder than the equivalent AP class
<micahjohnston> ok :p
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: I'd just pick some obvious core classes and call it good
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: you just need to have 15cr that are plausible
<alexgordon> man the american education system confuses me no end
<alexgordon> it's almost as confusing as the british one ;)
<jesusabdullah> yup!
<alexgordon> or english one I should say
<alexgordon> scottish system is totally different
<jesusabdullah> Do they have to pass Ordinary Wizarding Levels?
<alexgordon> jesusabdullah: it is, no shitting, exactly the same as in harry potter
<alexgordon> *not
<alexgordon> shitting, that is
<alexgordon> maybe I should state that again so it makes sense
<jesusabdullah> alexgordon: I mean, I knew HP parodied one of the UK school systems
<alexgordon> jesusabdullah: it is, not shitting you, exactly the same as in harry potter
<jesusabdullah> alexgordon: I figure it's somewhere between Harry Potter and Gunnerkrigg Court
<alexgordon> jesusabdullah: it's not a parody, it's just based on it because that's all JK Rowling knows :P
<jesusabdullah> alexgordon: and I like to pretend that, yes, there are ethereal magicks
<micahjohnston> jesus this scholarship almost isn't worth it
<micahjohnston> I get like $5000 over 4 years
<jesusabdullah> alexgordon: well, I mean, OWL is 1:1 with a real exit exam
<micahjohnston> but I have to jump through retarded hoops and take at least 15 hours every sememster
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: 15 hrs is just a "full courseload"
<micahjohnston> well 12 hours is
<micahjohnston> right?
<alexgordon> English education system: Reception (ages 4 to 5) → Years 1, 2, 3 → Years 4, 5, 6 → Years 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 (GCSE) → Years 12 (AS), 13 (A2) → University years 1, 2, 3 → Unemployment
<jesusabdullah> technically but it's a pretty fucking light one
<micahjohnston> ok
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: I regularly took 17cr in college
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: which uni are you going to?
<micahjohnston> jesusabdullah: University of Utah
<jesusabdullah> oh no shit, funny you should say that because
<jesusabdullah> there's a company that I'm interviewing with
<jesusabdullah> that I think is going to offer me a job sometime in the next few weeks
<jesusabdullah> like, I feel pretty good about it
<jesusabdullah> thing is
<jesusabdullah> their offices are in Provo
<jesusabdullah> so now I have to seriously consider Utah as a place to live
<jesusabdullah> Mostly I'm trying to figure out if the mormontopia aspects are worth the ridiculous natural beauty
<micahjohnston> ahh
<micahjohnston> Provo is getting Google Fibert
<micahjohnston> but Provo is undoubtedly one of the culturally worst places in Utah
<jesusabdullah> and how close I should live to SLC versus Provo proper
<micahjohnston> >90% mormon
<micahjohnston> yeah
<micahjohnston> SLC is way way more liberal than Provo
<micahjohnston> I'm pissed that we don't get Fiber
<jesusabdullah> How long's that commute? Like an hour each way?
<jesusabdullah> That's pretty gnarly honestly
<jesusabdullah> but they get to work at home part-time, so
<jesusabdullah> I mean, really, if I'm going to seriously take their offer they'll need to fly me down first
<micahjohnston> if you live in SLC, the ridiculous natural beauty far outweighs the mormontopia aspects, IMO
<jesusabdullah> cause no way am I jumping in without REALLY knowing what I'm getting into
<micahjohnston> but maybe not in like Provo or, god forbid, St. George or something
<micahjohnston> what commute?
<micahjohnston> between SLC and Provo?
<jesusabdullah> yeah
<micahjohnston> I would not commute between them once each day
<micahjohnston> that'd be awful
<micahjohnston> more than an hour
<micahjohnston> each way
<jesusabdullah> http://www.reddit.com/r/SLCTrees this warmed my heart XD
<jesusabdullah> Yeah...
<micahjohnston> haha I hadn't seen that
<micahjohnston> I guess *technically* I'm a one-time slctree
<jesusabdullah> one time, huh?
<micahjohnston> yeah haha
<jesusabdullah> so here's a question: mormon, ex-mormon or just like Utah?
<micahjohnston> well actually technically twice
<micahjohnston> but one time it was brownies with no effect
<micahjohnston> ex-mormon
<jesusabdullah> interesting
<micahjohnston> turned 18 yesterday
<jesusabdullah> happy birthday
<micahjohnston> so still live in the house with very strict mormon parents
<micahjohnston> thanks
<jesusabdullah> I turned 26 last Sunday
<micahjohnston> happy birthday to you too!
<jesusabdullah> hah!
<alexgordon> let's all have birthdays!
<micahjohnston> I'm very excited to move up to the U and escape it
<jesusabdullah> man I never ever ever thought I would seriously consider the greater SLC area
<alexgordon> hah I wonder if micahjohnston's going to get missionaries knocking at the door
<jesusabdullah> honestly, I thought I'd just take this walmartlabs gig and call it a day
<micahjohnston> jesusabdullah: in all reality I love SLC
<micahjohnston> such a beautiful place
<jesusabdullah> What's that space in between provo and slc like?
<alexgordon> jesusabdullah: pious.
<micahjohnston> haha
<micahjohnston> it's a mix between rich-mormon-suburb and nobody-lives-there
<jesusabdullah> dangit
<micahjohnston> but there are a lot of tech companies there, I know
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<jesusabdullah> yeah, the guys I'm talking to do some neato stuff
<micahjohnston> and southern slc has nice suburbs
<micahjohnston> who are you talking to, if you're at liberty to discuss?
<jesusabdullah> idottv?
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: btw, do some fucking statistics at uni :P
<jesusabdullah> basically I was like, "meh, mormontopia" until I did some googling and found https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Provo_BYU_campus.JPG
<jesusabdullah> like, holy shit this is a beautiful picture
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: hm why?
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<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston, stats are good for you and not enough people understand them
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: because statistics are fucking awesome, and everything else you can learn from wikipedia :P
<micahjohnston> lol ok
<purr> lol
<micahjohnston> jesusabdullah: slc is better ;p
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: yeah, I saw some nice pics there too
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: basically maths is useful, and statistics is the most useful branch of maths
<jesusabdullah> you get a lot of bang for your buck with stats
<jesusabdullah> I won't say it's THE MOST USEFUL of maths but it's one of the big three in my head
<alexgordon> I can't think of a more useful one
<jesusabdullah> the other two being linear algebra and calculus
<jesusabdullah> you combine those three together along with an understanding of numerical methods and you're fucking unstoppable
<alexgordon> I meant in programming though
<alexgordon> I dunno, I hardly ever use calculus in my code
<jesusabdullah> it depends on what problem you're doing
<jesusabdullah> the thing with stats is that it's useful at the "low end"
<alexgordon> and linear algebra IS useful, but the mathematical sort is not so much
<alexgordon> the way mathematicians think about linear algebra is worlds apart from the way programmers think about it
<alexgordon> but statistics is basically the same, so everything you learn can be directly and immediately applied
<jesusabdullah> ahahahahaha oh man
<jesusabdullah> I clicked and dragged the yellow guy to a random place in West Jordan
<jesusabdullah> and what do I see
<jesusabdullah> ?
<jesusabdullah> Guess
<alexgordon> boobs
<jesusabdullah> think more stereotypically Utah
<alexgordon> wait, west jordan… in utah?
<jesusabdullah> it's a SLC suburb
<alexgordon> I see
<jesusabdullah> okay the answer is
<jesusabdullah> a mormon temple
<alexgordon> NO SHIT
<jesusabdullah> inorite
<jesusabdullah> I was like, "there are probably houses here"
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<jesusabdullah> and goog was like, "lolno church"
<purr> lolno
<micahjohnston> I live in West Jordan!
<micahjohnston> jesusabdullah: is it the jordan river temple
<jesusabdullah> micahjohnston: yes
<micahjohnston> my parents were married there
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: how many parents do you have?
<alexgordon> 3? 5?
<micahjohnston> 2
<alexgordon> ah, a liberal mormon family
<micahjohnston> we're really conservative actually
<joelteon> oh jesus
<micahjohnston> though i know you're joking
<micahjohnston> like
<joelteon> my laptop thinks it's connected to a display but it isn't
<joelteon> so I have no menubar
<joelteon> ...
<micahjohnston> in some ways my parents are kind of ideologically libral
<micahjohnston> liberal
<micahjohnston> but they are way more strict than any of my mormon friends' parents
<micahjohnston> joelteon: wow
<micahjohnston> mac?
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> ahh, i got it
<micahjohnston> cmd space system enter
<joelteon> system?
<jesusabdullah> SPACE SYSTEM
<jesusabdullah> I mean, I'm no stranger to Mormons, Alaska has their fair share
<jesusabdullah> not Utah levels, but like, everyone has mormon friends