mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
Guest58318 has joined #arm-netbook
Guest58318 is now known as hp_
QingPei has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
QingPei has joined #arm-netbook
QingPei has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
penguin42 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
tuliom has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
ManoftheSea has quit [*.net *.split]
techn has quit [*.net *.split]
lerc has quit [*.net *.split]
kaspter has joined #arm-netbook
DEAT_ is now known as DEAT
avernos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
kaspter has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
kaspter has joined #arm-netbook
gimli has joined #arm-netbook
<furan> turl do you have any 7000mah devices that you can pass me your script.bin for?
<furan> I need to figure out the right params in the power section
avernos has joined #arm-netbook
avernos has quit [Changing host]
avernos has joined #arm-netbook
hehopmajieh_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
Gujs_ has joined #arm-netbook
Gujs_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
avernos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
Mazon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
avernos has joined #arm-netbook
Mazon has joined #arm-netbook
gimli has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
<specing> 0.o
<specing> cat /sys/block/zram0/{orig_data_size,compr_data_size}
<specing> 59047936
<specing> 22998271
<specing> Looks like this is actually working
QingPei has joined #arm-netbook
ManoftheSea has joined #arm-netbook
lerc has joined #arm-netbook
techn has joined #arm-netbook
bsdfox has joined #arm-netbook
bsdfox has joined #arm-netbook
bsdfox has quit [Changing host]
tzafrir_laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
eflatun_ has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
rellla has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun has joined #arm-netbook
<eflatun> hi all
<RaYmAn> morning :)
<HeHoPMaJIeH> Morning
<eflatun> How about the developing process of Amd T40E and type III EOMA-68 ? thank you
tzafrir_laptop has joined #arm-netbook
QingPei has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
ZaEarl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
Vayu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
ssvb has quit [Quit: Leaving]
ssvb has joined #arm-netbook
popolon has joined #arm-netbook
ssvb has quit [Quit: Leaving]
ssvb has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
ssvb has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<mnemoc> moin
<kaspter> morning
ssvb has joined #arm-netbook
Vayu_ has joined #arm-netbook
ssvb has quit [Quit: Leaving]
ssvb has joined #arm-netbook
kaspter has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
calris has joined #arm-netbook
<calris> Good evening (or morning if your on the wrong side of the planet ;))
orly_owl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
orly_owl has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> calris: in irc it's always monring when you arrive and night when you leave
<calris> lol - let's play spot the newbie :)
<calris> I thought I should drop on by while I wait for my Mele A2000 to arrive - I understand a number of you are playing around with it a bit
<calris> I'm going to use it to familiarize myself with Linux & U-Boot development for ARM (been hacking U-Boot for ~4 years now but not on ARM)
Quarx has joined #arm-netbook
penguin42 has joined #arm-netbook
piezo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
piezo has joined #arm-netbook
tavish has joined #arm-netbook
tzafrir_laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<mnemoc> calris: the mele a2000 is very nice for hacking, and as with other A10-based devices you can get jtag+uart out of the SD slot while pushing bare-metal binaries over usb (fel)
<mnemoc> rm: I'm tagging -r0 to mark the first upstream merge of that given version
<calris> I've been talking to Tom, Henrik and Jorgen so I'm fairly well up to speed
<calris> I'm gathering all the info I can find on the net and putting together a wiki to link it all together
<calris> JTAG via SD is not something I have seen a lot of detail about. Tom is sending an adapter with me order (gotta love his service), but I don't have an debugger yet - any suggestions?
<calris> mnemoc: Are you the owner of the amery U-Boot branch on github?
<RaYmAn> what's missing wrt JTAG via SD? :)
<calris> Knowledge :)
<mnemoc> I have a flyswatter from tincantools, RaYmAn uses a less expensive "clone" from dangerous prototypes
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: pfft :P even with quotes that's wrong
<calris> Yes, I have heard of flyswatter
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: :)
<RaYmAn> it's a class of devices using a FTDI chip that has JTAG support
<mnemoc> calris: I am amery, yes. the preferred uboot repo is hno's
<RaYmAn> so they aren't really clones of eachother, they are all just built on top of that chip :P
<calris> Yes, Henrik's
<calris> I assume you mean the Bus Pirate?
<RaYmAn> I use Dangerous prototypes Bus Blaster V2
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: =)
<RaYmAn> it's 35$ which is certainly quite cheap =P
<calris> I have offered Tom and Henrik my services to help get A10 support into mainline U-Boot
<calris> As the x86 maintainer, I kind of know how things work ;)
<RaYmAn> it'll probably require a fair amount of changes, but it'd definitely be cool to get mainline support :)
<calris> I've already had a quick look - it should not take much
<calris> Do it in steps - Basic A10 support then basic board then expand from there
<calris> It does not have to be all singing and dancing from day one
<calris> I'm especially excited about SPL support
calris has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
calris has joined #arm-netbook
<calris> Wow, that wasn't half embarrassing :(
<calris> Turns out "/quit" in Pidgin is rather 'terminal'
<Turl> /quit everywhere is terminal
<Turl> you want /part possibly
<Turl> furan: I think mine is 8000mAh
<Turl> welcome back mnemoc :)
<mnemoc> Turl: thanks ;-)
<Turl> mnemoc: I integrated the newest mali driver to match hipboi libs ;) check it out when you get a chance
* mnemoc didn't know people used uboot on x86
<Turl> o.O
<calris> mnemoc: They don't :(
<mnemoc> calris: :)
<calris> mnemoc: I've done a few architectural things which spread from x86 (like proper relocation) - hacking ELF headers is fun (not!)
<Turl> mnemoc: there's a bit of makefile tweaking needed still, they added (kinda) proper inline build support
<calris> Turl: What about the HD video decode (or is gimli about the only one dealing with that)?
<Turl> so we've got CONFIG_MALI400 and such now
<mnemoc> Turl: can you open a ticket with the details?
<Turl> calris: for !android, gimli is the one
<Turl> mnemoc: sure
<mnemoc> Turl: and please, don't suggest calris to /part :p
<calris> I wanted to /part the cynagenmod tenderloin channels... I /quit instead
<calris> Al Pidgin dropped freenode completely - had to restart to get it back
<mnemoc> calris: ah, cool. you can /part those ;-)
<calris> Turl: Not too interested in Android on A2000 (use my HP TouchPad for that) - Will be doing raw Linux hacking on the A2000
<lundman> calris :)
<mnemoc> Turl: can you link the r3p0 libs too?
<Turl> mnemoc: done
<mnemoc> the amount of spam bots that gets registered in the wiki is awful...
<Turl> mnemoc: wanted to talk to you about it
<Turl> mnemoc: got a few tips from a wiki guy @ CM :)
<mnemoc> nice
<mnemoc> Turl: /q ?
<Turl> ok
<calris> lundman: Greetings
<lundman> thanks for your help with uboot btw
Almamuetya has joined #arm-netbook
<calris> lundman: np - good to see ZFS hit mainline :)
<lundman> 4 days of coding, 13 weeks of patch acceptance :)
<lundman> i wonder if xbmc can do my IPTV service
<calris> Yeah, Wolfgang runs a pretty tight ship
<calris> But a lot of people don't bother to read the 'rules' even after having them pointed out three times
<calris> But I've offered to help with the A20/A2000 submission when it's ready :)
* calris is about to turn into a pumpkin
<calris> time for bed
<calris> btw, I'm collection info and links at http://www.embedev.com/wiki/doku.php?id=mele_a2000 - If anyone has any good info, I'll be reading the IRC logs later
calris has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
<lundman> sweet
<RaYmAn> great, another wiki ;)
<lundman> the more the merries, or, too many chefs?:)
<lundman> *merrier
<Turl> RaYmAn: fscking tegra :p the kernel doesn't compile
<RaYmAn> too few chefs? :P they should all be cooking the same soup, but instead they each make their own :(
<Turl> RaYmAn: the cpu_pm* stuff doesn't link, any ideas?
<RaYmAn> Turl: use an older compiler? :P
<Turl> RaYmAn: stuff like cpu_pm_register_notifier and cpu_complex_pm_enter are missing
<Turl> and it chokes :)
<lundman> use --force, or perhaos the harder --or-else
<RaYmAn> Turl: using a wrong .config?
<Turl> RaYmAn: the stuff isn't even on the kernel tree :x
eFfeM has joined #arm-netbook
tavish has quit [Quit: leaving]
<rz2k> hey Turl, is there any progress with X11 with mali r3p0?
<Turl> no idea
<Turl> there was someone trying though, don't recall who :(
<rm> rz2k, here's a link I found the other day https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/61#post-1251
calris has joined #arm-netbook
<rz2k> :(
eFfeM has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
<calris> Why sleep when AndChat works on your CM10 TouchPad :)
<calris> BTW, just to clarify - the wiki is really my personal dev documentation. Thought it would be a good way to collect my thoughts
<calris> Not trying to steal anyone's thunder - just being as open as possible
<Turl> calris: not sure if you're aware, but there's http://linux-sunxi.org/ :)
<calris> Turl: yup, already got that one
tzafrir_laptop has joined #arm-netbook
<calris> I'll but another link from the A10 page to http://linux-sunxi.org/A10
<calris> put another...
<rm> everyone should have their personal wiki about A10
<rm> the more the better!
<Turl> rm: :P
* rm has one too
<rm> yep
<calris> Mine will be for all my dev work... been looking at the Trim Slice too
<calris> Too many $ :(
<Mazon> fwiw and IMO trimslice and cubox is a waste of money - there is no support and the community around them are not very active
<calris> mnemoc: are you with rhombus?
<calris> I'm waiting for a cheap A2000 style device with a Tegra 3
<Mazon> strip a nexus 7 and hack it to pieces :)
<Mazon> why tegra3? - need the GPU?
<Mazon> if you need the CPU, get an O-DroidX
<calris> Why not ;)
<calris> Too many choices
<calris> I only had one x86 board I could hack on
<calris> Now I have a TouchPad'
<Mazon> tegra 3 doesn't make sensem unless you need GPU
<calris> ,Raspberry Pi and A2000
<calris> And my wife has a Tegra 3 Iconia
<RaYmAn> the biggest annoyance with tegra 3 is that almost all tegra devices are fairly locked down
<mnemoc> calris: I like the eoma68 idea, but I'm not related to RT
<Mazon> I home the imx6 will be fairly open
<RaYmAn> even if e.g. nexus7 is unlockable, it's still possible to brick it in such a way that only a low-level recovery can fix it (which would be possible if it wasn't locked down)
<calris> mnemoc: so who are rt? Do they hang out here?
<Mazon> luke does
<mnemoc> sometimes :|
<Mazon> but I wouldn't hold my breath for eoma-68
<rz2k> RaYmAn: have any link to read about this? I will recieve nexus7 in 3-7 days, worth reading for me.
<RaYmAn> rz2k: not really - It's not really documented anywhere.
<rz2k> I was surprised when I googled "nexus 7 uart" and there was nothing
<rz2k> are people really so slow ?
<RaYmAn> yeah
<rz2k> :/
<RaYmAn> I'm kind of waiting for a suitable cable to be able to test it
<RaYmAn> they appear to use UART on the headphone port
<rz2k> i have usbee dx clone, will probe all testpoints
<RaYmAn> but whether this is present in production devices as well, i don't know
<RaYmAn> rz2k: also, the bricking stuff I mentioned is mostly related to bootloader updates and similar. Low-level recovery (similar to fel in type - called APX/nvflash) can easily fix that
<calris> Is there any way the a10 BROM can be reflashed?
calris has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
calris has joined #arm-netbook
<RaYmAn> calris: no. ROM == readonly memory =P It's written (well, masked I guess?) during production and is unchangable.
<phh> yeah ... sure ... :p
<phh> well for brom ok
<calris> Thought so... I wonder if it's possible to get un-programmed A10 chips...(just a thought...)
<RaYmAn> why would you want to re-program the BROM anyways?
<calris> For fun :p
<RaYmAn> phh: it's really a huge misuse of the word to call e.g. phone/tab software "ROM" :P
<calris> Picky much ;)
<calris> If your old enough, you would remember real ROMs :) the term just stuck
<calris> Image CyaniGen releasing 'EEPROM's
<calris> CyanoGen
<RaYmAn> that would be kind of cool :P, quite inaccurate, but yeah ;)
<RaYmAn> (no more than it is now I guess :P)
<RaYmAn> what is "real ROMs" in your world?
<calris> Burn once read only memory chips
calris has quit [Quit: Bye]
<Gumboot> We skipped over masked ROM somewhere, there.
tzafrir_laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
QingPei has joined #arm-netbook
<Gumboot> But OTP takes us back to the days when bricked meant bricked.
<RaYmAn> yeah, but software bricks were kind of hard to pull off then ;)
orly_owl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
tzafrir_laptop has joined #arm-netbook
orly_owl has joined #arm-netbook
<RaYmAn> no denmark in there =P
ssvb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
eflatun_ has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: how much did you pay for yours (total)?
<RaYmAn> I don't remember exactly
<mnemoc> I think I'll buy a N7 tomorrow (today is the last day of the cycle of my CC).. 249E+10E
<Turl> mnemoc: weird they didn't follow the tech 1USD=1EUR
<RaYmAn> 159GBP + UK shipping+ ~15GBP shipping
<mnemoc> Turl: Isn't it $199/$249 too?
<Turl> ah, didn't know there was two models :P
<mnemoc> 8/16GB
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: uhm... that's like 40E cheaper...
<Turl> mnemoc: eh?
<Turl> 159 British pounds = 251.4108 U.S. dollars
<Turl> if anything it looks more expensive to me
<mnemoc> Turl: I'm comparing GBP vs. EUR, not USD
* Turl fails
<mnemoc> USD implies extra import tax, GBP doesn't
<mnemoc> 175GBP is like 220EUR, while the price is EUR is 260
<RaYmAn> yeh..If I ordered from US, i'd get uhm, 25% VAT + processing fee of around 15-20EUR
ssvb has joined #arm-netbook
<Turl> weren't imports in .eu exempt of taxes until 1kEUR or something?
<Turl> I think someone told me that once :|
<RaYmAn> no
<RaYmAn> within EU, sure
<phh> at least in france it's for taxes < 60€
<mnemoc> in .es regular "letters" (up to 2kg) are generally left alone by the customs
<RaYmAn> (not sure there's a limit)
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: doesn't mean they are excempt ;)
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: exactly
<phh> (which means for ~ <300€)
<RaYmAn> technically speaking, I think you're required to report it yourself and volountariy pay it =P
<mnemoc> ^^
<Turl> lol
<Turl> here imports are exempt if <25USD
<Turl> supposedly, once per calendar year
<RaYmAn> yeah - we have some exemptions here as well
<mnemoc> last time I had a package catched (some *free* sample relay boards sent using express mail) they holded it for a week, then send me a form that took another week to arrive, pay by wire transfer (tax over stimated sales price + handling + reshipping), and then wait another week for them to ack the payment and reship :<
<mnemoc> so I ended up paying more than the cost of the boards+shipping and took over 2w longer than the same sent using regular post :<
<mnemoc> since then, RR-only
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: did you get the nand-unification working in 3.0 with .config compatibility?
<phh> Turl: ah, it's the exempt it's for every package
<phh> in france*
madmalkav has joined #arm-netbook
ssvb has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
ssvb has joined #arm-netbook
rellla has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]]
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: if not i'll give it a try tonight
gimli has joined #arm-netbook
QingPei has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: btw, did you get your olinuxino? does it boot from uSD?
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: err... I mean, does the uSD work?
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: No. but I think basically it's because I made the options hidden.. I think if you make them public again and then just select the nand_sunxi , I think it should work
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: no, hasn't been sent yet
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: do you know if hno received his? or got lost?
<RaYmAn> he did
<mnemoc> neighbor had it?
<RaYmAn> yeh
<mnemoc> :)
ibrah has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
BoozeWooz has joined #arm-netbook
<BoozeWooz> hi
<Turl> hi BoozeWooz
<BoozeWooz> how you do this red text :D?
<BoozeWooz> o_O ?
<Turl> eh? o.O
<Turl> BoozeWooz: like this? o.O
<BoozeWooz> yes!
<phh> that's called highlight -_-'
<phh> BoozeWooz: i can do it too ! :D
<Turl> BoozeWooz: :P
<BoozeWooz> hmpf..
<BoozeWooz> highlight
<Turl> put your name on the sentence :P
<Turl> like BoozeWooz: oha
<Turl> i
<phh> Turl: most irc clients doesn't do self highlight
<BoozeWooz> oooh
<BoozeWooz> Turl hey
<BoozeWooz> like this?
<BoozeWooz> Turl: hey
<BoozeWooz> did that work?
<Turl> yeah both are fine BoozeWooz
<Turl> or "hi Turl"
<BoozeWooz> nice , ty
<BoozeWooz> mmm about this stuff, you know uboot?
<Turl> hno is the uboot guy :)
<BoozeWooz> where is he
<Turl> in here
<BoozeWooz> sara connor ? : DDD
<Turl> eh? o.O
<Turl> BoozeWooz: might be useful https://github.com/hno/uboot-allwinner/wiki
<BoozeWooz> ive spoken to him before and ive made some interesting discoveries
<BoozeWooz> (interesting indeed)
<BoozeWooz> bah i think i broke it
<furan> unless you have your soldering iron out, a10 is really hard to break
<BoozeWooz> a10 thunderbolt?
<traeak> that's super hard to break
<BoozeWooz> i agree
<traeak> my brother said they were p;retty fearful, that's back in the days when russia was still a conventional threat
<BoozeWooz> :o
<traeak> i think the US has almost no hope against china, we don't have enough weapons stockpiled to kill enough of them
<BoozeWooz> they still have the majority of the nukes so pretty much threatful indeed
<traeak> and that's what happened in ww2 with russians vs germans and chinese vs japanese
<mnemoc> doesn't .cn already own USA anyway?
<BoozeWooz> hmpf im not sure
<traeak> overwhelm with numbers, but extreme casualties
<traeak> oh yeah and china against us in korean war
<BoozeWooz> ive done some mw3 and tbh doesnt matter
<BoozeWooz> usa has ac130 and claps ass that bad, no chinese will stand
<traeak> modern conventional war is really really bad
<BoozeWooz> all wars are
<traeak> it's worse compared to the pre-gunpowder days
<BoozeWooz> naw
<traeak> artillery and mortars are the vast number of casualties now
<BoozeWooz> if you look at roman battles, millions die
<BoozeWooz> and doesnt matter thou, napoleon lost most of his people due to cold
<ManoftheSea> USA has expensive tech.
<BoozeWooz> hey man of the sea :D
<ManoftheSea> We'll outspend ourselves. Pyrric victory
<ManoftheSea> Hi Booze Wooz
<BoozeWooz> i found some weird stuff looking with wxhexeditor, it actually uses an UUID
<BoozeWooz> so i putted there the uuid of my usb thing, and it stopped working :D i guess it needs them mounted before that
loqoo has joined #arm-netbook
bsdfox has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
Kraln has joined #arm-netbook
specing_ has joined #arm-netbook
Hexxeh has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
specing has quit [*.net *.split]
Kraln- has quit [*.net *.split]
Hexxeh has joined #arm-netbook
<popolon> korean war is not chinese against us is us against asia
<traeak> hmm?
<BoozeWooz> china helkped a great deal, so did russia
<popolon> against korean people and china
<traeak> hehe
<popolon> like the vietnam
<popolon> and so much war in asia
<traeak> when it looked liek the US had won the chinese sent 1mill+ troops in
<traeak> the chosin reservoir was us vs chinese
Quarx has quit []
<traeak> but no argument there, just pointing out the chinese having vast numerical superiority
<BoozeWooz> there like 1 billion people
<popolon> lot of south korean and japanese still would like to close us base in their countries
<BoozeWooz> i would say great for defending but no way they are all going to attack
<popolon> because of murder, rape and kill from gi
<popolon> but they can't :(
<xxiao> nowadays due to birth control there will be something like 30millon youth with no hope to get a wife
<traeak> xxiao that's very true
<popolon> the liast first minister in japan was mostly elected for closing Okinawa us base, he fails
<mnemoc> just kidnap one :p
<traeak> one bad bad side effect are young chinese men are living with their parents with no drive to succeed
<popolon> like Obama was elected to stop afghan & irak war
<traeak> japan needs to invest in its own military again
<xxiao> war is sometimes used to keep gender balanced, though sometimes it's overdone
<BoozeWooz> i heard there pretty much bankrupt
<traeak> i'll be blunt, the US needs to pull out of europe, that should be #1 priority
<xxiao> when it's overdone, in middle east you can 'own' 4 wives
<BoozeWooz> US isnt in europe :D
<mnemoc> *cough*
<traeak> keep a few bases for transit, medical
<traeak> no ?
<Gumboot> Their squirrels are
<BoozeWooz> huh
eflatun_ has joined #arm-netbook
<popolon> BoozeWooz, are you sure ?
<popolon> most of the us governement are european
<BoozeWooz> hmm im pretty sure there are european bases in US
<traeak> hehe, i'm not going to spark any huge debate though :-p
<xxiao> usa is been taking by our spanish friends, just be patient and wait ....
<popolon> I don't believe there are native american in us government :)
<xxiao> i mean hispanic friends
<BoozeWooz> murika
<popolon> spanish are europeans too
<traeak> xxiao: a lot of hispanic friends have left because the economy is now worse in the US than their own countries
<popolon> spanish invaded some part of asia too
<traeak> talking on friday with a guy apparently central american speakers don't understand spanish speakers very well, almnost different languages now :-p
<BoozeWooz> no hablo ingleis
<popolon> not really true
<traeak> he called it "catalan" not sure what he called his own dialect
<mnemoc> popolon: go to any travel agency in spain and you'll see tons of references to .es not been part of europe ;-)
<BoozeWooz> huh
<popolon> lot of argentinians, chilians in europe they can generally exchange with spanish people without problems
<mnemoc> we travel *to* europe for vacations
<popolon> but well, that's probably the same problem that between french sepaking canadians and french
<BoozeWooz> well after bankrupcy i agree, no more europe
<BoozeWooz> greece is plenty enough
<popolon> or probably english and unitedstaters and canadians
<traeak> south america may be more pure spanish, can't say
<BoozeWooz> canada speaks french too
<popolon> BoozeWooz, but if greece follow the pathway of island
<mnemoc> europe has always began on the pyrenees
<xxiao> the big question is that, the global economic crisis, will it lead to a war of some sort?
<popolon> => banksters in jail, economy ok
<traeak> politicians in jail, economy ok
<traeak> hehe
<popolon> that was the idea of the second political group in last greek election
<traeak> look to the real criminals, the ones that take all the tax money and give it to their friends
<popolon> traeak, yes bankster + politicians
<popolon> europole help islandish govt to catch lot of them :)
<popolon> (europole = european police)
<BoozeWooz> naw
<BoozeWooz> conspiracy
<xxiao> bankster + politicans + foodstampers
<BoozeWooz> thery
<popolon> to their friends or fiscal paradise, wher the money disappear
<popolon> now some big companies try to make pressure to us gvt to don't taxe companies that want to push back cash from those fiscal paradizes to us
<popolon> BoozeWooz, well french speakings canadian series are subbed in france :)
<BoozeWooz> wat
<traeak> french don't matter so much :-p
<BoozeWooz> they survive ww2 thou
<traeak> seems like a few spanish are well involved in hardware hacking nowadays
<traeak> so my respect ont hat level goes up
<BoozeWooz> french
<traeak> the only thing i know about the french is that they like ot run :-p
<traeak> hehe
bsdfox has joined #arm-netbook
bsdfox has quit [Changing host]
bsdfox has joined #arm-netbook
<traeak> okay back to work
<BoozeWooz> jo
<popolon> generally easier to understand west african people that speak french than canadians native french speakers
<BoozeWooz> hmmm naw for me the're both not understandable
<BoozeWooz> dunno french really
<traeak> yeah interesting a girl from ivory coast has been going to our church. her english is actually pretty good
<popolon> i meet in china an ivory coast girt, she speak perfectly french, english, chinese and I suppose wolof
<traeak> so probably good education there
<traeak> funny she's waiting to go up to canada (for immigration), her husband is working there
<BoozeWooz> yeah
<popolon> she was studing in wuhan, i meet her in wuhan street, we was buying some lamb meat brochettes at a local chinese muslim
<traeak> hmm
eflatun_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<popolon> really nice with chili and cumin :p
eflatun__ has joined #arm-netbook
<traeak> uigers (ulgers?)
<popolon> perhaps hui, don't know
<popolon> didn't ask him
<popolon> there are several muslim minorities in china
<popolon> and mandchous & mongols was generally muslims too, before
<popolon> so lamb meat is really popular in beijing, not far of mongolian and mandchous aeras
<popolon> and dog meat too, due to korea proximity :p
<BoozeWooz> hmppff
BoozeWooz has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<popolon> but far less than lamb brochettes :)
lpleal has joined #arm-netbook
<traeak> and in the south anything and everything is eaten
<traeak> hehe
<popolon> everything that have 4 legs can be eaten bug tables and chairs :))
<popolon> that's approximativly a cantonses proverb
<popolon> cantonese
lpleal has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
j1nx has joined #arm-netbook
<TomNL> j1nx: seems allwinner has sent some update, as gimli is back on his old dev path?
eflatun__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
eflatun has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> HeHoPMaJIeH: hi, please poke me when you have time to help me debugging the SD slot of the olinuxino-a13 :)
<j1nx> * j1nx whistles a "i know nothing" kind of tune
<TomNL> hehe ok j1nx :)
* mnemoc is very sad all that work is not been done in public
<TomNL> mnemoc: it will probably be public in the end ;-)
<RaYmAn> TomNL: it's still kind of odd to work in private
<RaYmAn> I'm sure everyone can understand not wanting to bother with users asking questions constantly, but that's another matter.
<TomNL> RaYmAn: keeping it non-public is getting users to ask annoying questions too :). But it's up to the dev to choose. I am happy gimli is investing time, however I would be very happy to see for example a github account to follow progress
<mnemoc> non-public fails to keep annoying questions away, but succeeds in keeping other developers and potential contributors away and slows everything down
* mnemoc sad
<mnemoc> and iainb's RE seems halt too :'( ... no commit in the last 2 weeks
<gimli> TomNL: i'm great in ignore anying questins
Vayu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
eflatun has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
loqoo has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]]
techn_ has joined #arm-netbook
techn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
j1nx has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
hste has joined #arm-netbook
penguin42 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
gimli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
gimli has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun_ has joined #arm-netbook
piezo has quit [Quit: quit]
BoozeWooz has joined #arm-netbook
<BoozeWooz> hey
piezo has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun__ has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
j1nx_ has joined #arm-netbook
<thefrog> hectic day
Almamuetya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
bsdfox has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
gimli has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
bsdfox has joined #arm-netbook
bsdfox has quit [Changing host]
bsdfox has joined #arm-netbook
loqoo has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
tuliom has joined #arm-netbook
eflatun_ has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: just tried cherrypicking the sun[45]i_nand merge from 3.4 and http://dpaste.com/792281/plain/ was enough to restore .config compatiblity
<mnemoc> tristate+select works as expected, y->y, m->m, n->n
rsalveti has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
BoozeWooz has left #arm-netbook ["Leaving"]
j1nx_ has quit [Quit: Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now]
tuliom has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
tuliom has joined #arm-netbook
mikey_w has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
n6pfk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
tzafrir_laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
loqoo has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]]
eflatun_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]