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<lundman> hmm so i needed a kernel of specific version, the nightlies did not help there
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<lundman> bah so empat0 xbmc runs, but sees no upnp on the network
<lundman> I dont want to put media on usb sticks like peasants
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<lundman> finally solved.. anyone work out how to change empat0's res to 1080p ?
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<lundman> ah hardcoded in, guess I have to compile it afterall
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<drachensun> I'm trying to use that xbmc too, its saying I don't have an opengl driver
<drachensun> Im using the stock 3.0.42 kernel, I thought I had all the graphical drivers in there
<drachensun> do I need to build something else?
<lundman> apt-get install mesa-utils
<drachensun> ok its installed
<drachensun> glxinfo?
<drachensun> "couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
<lundman> # glxinfo
<lundman> Error: unable to open display :0
<lundman> but then, the start script loads all the modules etc
<lundman> "start xbmc"
<drachensun> hmmm
<drachensun> start xbmc is saying thats not a service, I may not have it installed right
<drachensun> no wait, I think I just mistyped
<drachensun> eh, I'm off, I'll try it again tomorrow
<lundman> ok
<drachensun> but so its working for you?
<drachensun> is the video smooth?
<lundman> The scene 720p; almost plays.
<lundman> scene 1080p: no chance
<lundman> bluray.ts rip, 3fps
<lundman> SD tv mkv/mp4, plays fine
<lundman> but in terms of UI, quite nice. better than using X11. But can't change resolution form 720p
<drachensun> ok, well SD seemed to choke in software for me when I tried it, so that sounds like a step up
<drachensun> cool
<lundman> as a proof-of-concept, its got potential
<lundman> .avi just core dumps, but that is known
<lundman> possibly if I use the NIC fixes 720p might be make to play
<lundman> but running in 720p res isn't a real test anyway
<lundman> hmm yeah nic fixes it might play 720p scene
<lundman> shame the newer kernel 3.0.36+ dont have those fixes in it
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<lundman> hmm even in 3.0.42+ kernel from yesterday doesnt have the NIC fixes, that is most disappointing
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<mnemoc> projectgus: I have a cubieboard on my desk, "many" others have already received theirs too
<lundman> A10 with wemac NIC?
<mnemoc> lundman: i was waiting for you to split the patch...
<mnemoc> code changes and massive style fixes don't mix
<lundman> i only made minor tweaks, dont rememeber style fixes :)
<lundman> but I suppose it doesnt matter, I've started looking at upcoming things
<mnemoc> lundman: in that case please send it again to linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com
<mnemoc> lundman: yes, the cubieboard is A10 with ethernet
<lundman> yesterdays didnt make a hwpack btw
<lundman> yes, but is it specifically wemac :)
<mnemoc> yes
<lundman> ok
<mnemoc> about the hwpack, it's out of my control... only cnxsoft messes there :<
<lundman> ah
<lundman> I am running hte day before now, 46+ or something or was it 43
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<jelly-home> should a usb-ethernet interface work with an A10 stick
<mnemoc> sure
<lundman> jelly: yes, they work quite well, better than wemac in my tests
<mnemoc> *g*
<lundman> Linux cubox 3.4.6 #8 PREEMPT Sun Jul 22 14:18:53 MDT 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux
<lundman> # zpool list
<lundman> NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT
<lundman> playpool 1016M 106K 1016M 0% 1.00x ONLINE -
<lundman> yay
<jelly-home> fuse or kernel?
<lundman> kernel of course
<lundman> ah hmm thats an issue.. guess I need to massage rc11 a little
<projectgus> mnemoc: oh, excellent :)
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<specing> lundman: ZFS?
<specing> OHMY
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<zoobab_> anyone has an olimex-a13 here?
<mnemoc> it's called olinuxino :p
<zoobab_> about the stock-bin-archive, I made a dump of the nand* partitions of the miniX
<zoobab_> but my google account is in there
<mnemoc> how did you get your google account info in the boot partition?
<zoobab_> not in the boot partition, in one of the nand partition
<zoobab_> which partition is of interest? the one that contains the script.bin?
<mnemoc> ah, sorry, read nanda
<zoobab_> only nanda is useful?
<mnemoc> yes rest is android junk
<mnemoc> s/yes/yes, the/
<ibot> mnemoc meant: yes, the rest is android junk
<zoobab_> zoobab@buzek /home/zoobab [12]$ file nanda
<zoobab_> nanda: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x0, OEM-ID " ", sectors/cluster 4, root entries 256, sectors 32768 (volumes <=32 MB) , Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/FAT 32, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x0), FAT (16 bit)
<mnemoc> zoobab_: you are supposed to tar it, not dump it
<lundman> :)
<zoobab_> here it is:
<mnemoc> zoobab_: what miniX model is that?
<zoobab_> 512
<mnemoc> thanks
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<marmottus> Hi
<marmottus> I just boot on Arch with my media a10 PC using the Mele A1000 bootloader
<marmottus> but it indicates the wrong amount of RAM (300 instead of 1GB)
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<mnemoc> that means it's taking 512MB - VE - FB - MALI - G2D
<mnemoc> not sure how's the state of 1GB support in our u-boot these days
<marmottus> can I recompile a u-boot that supports 1GB?
<mnemoc> sunxi branch
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<mnemoc> but don't know exactly what to do to "enable" 1GB
<marmottus> :)
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<mnemoc> marmottus: if you get lost, send a mail to linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com asking
<marmottus> ok. Thanks
<zoobab_> how do you know for sure it has 1GB?
<mnemoc> I would asume the gpl-violating android that comes preinstalled shows 1GB ... - VE - MALI - FB - G2D
<jelly> g2d?
<jelly> (well, I don't know what's VE either)
<marmottus> hum it has 1GB cause its written on the box ;-) and I tried lubuntu and MemTotal was around 834MB
<mnemoc> VE = video processing unit, cedarx
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<mnemoc> G2D (aka MP or Mixer Processor) is a hw accelerated 2d engine
<mnemoc> they all take a chunk of your precious ram very early
<RaYmAn> the mk802 lubuntu image has 1gb support - it's basically a hacked up hno u-boot with hard-patches for 1gb i think
<mnemoc> hipboi!!!!
<mnemoc> :'(
<RaYmAn> ?
<mnemoc> i need a phoenixcard image to fix my cubie :|
<RaYmAn> ah
<RaYmAn> boot0/boot1 got messed up?
<mnemoc> i believe it has a bad script.bin
<RaYmAn> jtag :/? :P
<RaYmAn> Or you could try and get fel-boot of kernel going
<mnemoc> my flyswatter is dead
<mnemoc> -v
<RaYmAn> yeah, you said
<RaYmAn> how did you kill it?
<mnemoc> sea wind
<mnemoc> too long in from of the windwo
<mnemoc> front*
<RaYmAn> lol
<RaYmAn> okay
<RaYmAn> fel-boot! :D
<mnemoc> it seems they don't like salty air
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<RaYmAn> just need to adjust that test program to initialize your ram
<plan_b> somebody here who uses uboot-multi-allwinner with a uEnv.txt file?
<mnemoc> well... if I knew how to do that I could fix uboot-mmc too ;-)
<RaYmAn> :P
<RaYmAn> so it uses entirely different ram from all the other a10 boards? :/
<mnemoc> no clue. spl works, u-boot halts
<RaYmAn> odd
<mnemoc> hno said it could be PMU related
<mnemoc> but reviving the preinstalled android I can start playing with the kernels from NAND relying in boot0/boot1
<jelly> huh, that must be an error, "U1A" A10 stick for $5.90, even with min. order 10 pieces
<mnemoc> scam?
<mnemoc> or dumb seller forgot a zero
* jelly clicks... aliexpress buggy
<jelly> search results show price 1/10 of what the details say
<mnemoc> they may be showing the equially bogus "per lot" price
<mnemoc> he might also have set a per piece price but telling aliexpress it was a per lot (of 10 pieces)
<jelly> I guess that's probably the case
<mnemoc> i've got a couple of orders canceled by the seller once he realizes a similar mistake
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<rm> insane amount of USB devices http://dpaste.com/806851/
<rm> and that's all on one poor MK802
<rm> and the running kernel doesn't actually support most of that :D
<rm> (dammit)
<mnemoc> i've seen worse :p
<rm> recompiling
* jelly has a nifty cheap usb hub + ethernet just waiting for an MK802 to plug it in and find out there are no drivers <g>
<rm> there is support for pretty much all USB-to-Ethernet chips in the mainline kernel
<rm> entirely possible that whichever kernel you get will not have them compiled
<traeak> pegasus is busted
<traeak> windows drivers still work
<traeak> that's scary
<plan_b> rm, CP210x UART Bridge .. what is this?
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: you use a bus blaster 2, right?
<mnemoc> plan_b: a cheap usb serial adapter
<mnemoc> uh
<rm> I assume it is natively Serial, but also has a CP210x for USB to Serial
<rm> hm, I can't find them on ebay anymore
<mnemoc> db9 serial is demode
<plan_b> rm, is it good? I have this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sintech-USB2-0-Konverter-serial-PAUB022/dp/B004AIAN5K for my mk802 .... and it sucks :(
<jelly> also, db9 serial typically has RS232 levels and not TTL or LVTTL or something else
<rm> well as I said it is built into the (second actually) PCB of that LCD
<rm> there it works without issues
<rm> and for connecting the MK802 UART I use a PL2303 USB to Serial + MAX232 Serial to TTL
<plan_b> rm, where did you buy the PL2303?
<rm> on Buyincoins or on DX
<rm> mine looks exactly like this
<plan_b> wow ... $2.25 on Buyincoins
<rm> but the first comment says it's CH341, not PL2303 :/
<rm> maybe they changed the chip now
<rm> dunno if CH341 is better or worse
<mnemoc> there are tons of <$2 pl2303 usb uart dongles on ebay too
<plan_b> I will order one ... my CP210x does a lot of silly things
<jelly> PL2303 is well known and fairly debugged, CP210x has only recently gained a driver (2008-9 or so?)
<rm> order a bunch of stuff to $25+
<rm> you will get a free tracking number
<mnemoc> sadly the fdti based dongles are too expensive :<
<plan_b> rm, thank you for the hint
<plan_b> mnemoc, what is the advantage of the fdti dongles?
<mnemoc> smarter and more reliable.... but you can but 7-8 pl2303 for the price of one ftdi232R...
<mnemoc> so it's hard to justify for home usage when you can just dispose the cheap dongle when it fails
<plan_b> ok ... I will buy the pl2303
<plan_b> and a new a10 device ... still not shure which one ... more nand would be nice
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<mnemoc> plan_b: this is the cheapest ftdi I've found: http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170913332118#ht_4180wt_1041
<plan_b> $6.98 ... still cheap
<mnemoc> yes
<plan_b> it is hard to find them here in europe
<mnemoc> i just got used to buy all these things online.... much cheaper and broader "catalog"
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<plan_b> wow ... from the first link ... shipping "Excludes: China, Greece, Romania, United Kingdom, Hong Kong" ... they don't send them from china to china?
<plan_b> WTF?
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<mnemoc> i supose that involves taxes
<mnemoc> for china-to-china taobao is probably a better choice
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<TomNL> lundman: there?
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: yup - it's pretty neat (And cheap)
<plan_b> hey ... the hackberry board is in stock again
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: i think i'll order one too
<plan_b> this one has 8 GB nand
<plan_b> but I can't find a picture of the board ... i don't want to solder again to the the UART connection
<mnemoc> mail them and ask
<hno> plan_b, The only two A10 devices sold with UART connectors are Mele A1000/A2000 and Cubieboard.
<hno> the only two known ...
<traeak> everyone loves cubieboard
<plan_b> solder the UART on my mk802 was hell ... so tiny and so close to the cpu
<mnemoc> miniand's board has uart pins iirc
<plan_b> the cubieboard is really great ... but not available :(
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<mnemoc> plan_b: I have one on my desk ;-)
<hno> plan_b, should be available again shortly.
* hno also have one.
<mnemoc> hno: does u-boot-mmc boot it yet? :)
<ZaEarl> I really wish Cubieboard had wifi onboard.
<plan_b> arghhh ... seems that I'm the only one without a cubieboard
<hno> mnemoc, not yet. But think the unified tree will shortly.
<mnemoc> the unionised branch was funny :p
<mnemoc> sorry, unitied
* cat1 wonders if there is any other allwinner board w/o freaking mali..
<rm> Mali is in the CPU
<rm> how do you make one w/o it
<mnemoc> all allwinner boards have mali, it's inside the chip
<cat1> rm: some other gpu could be integrated with more open approach :)
<ZaEarl> what could possibly be better than mali?
<mnemoc> cat1: name one?
<rm> that would not be "other allwinner board" but "other allwinner CPU"
<cat1> mnemoc: trying..
<cat1> rm: typo, but you get the idea ;)
<mnemoc> cat1: mali is actually the one that's closest to be open, thanks to lima
<cat1> mnemoc: btw, i did not get how to get lima even compiling? anyone tried it?
<mnemoc> cat1: /j #lima
<cat1> mnemoc: indeed :D
<plan_b> mnemoc, still mo accelerated X11 ... right?
<plan_b> hmm .. Andy Kirby has/had a A10 Media PC ... I will send him a mail
<mnemoc> plan_b: using r2p4 libs techn got hw accelerated gl working
<mnemoc> not with r3p0/1 yet
<mnemoc> also we are still looking for volunteers to write a 2d accelerated exa driver
<mnemoc> using g2d/mp
<mnemoc> which is the best documented part of the A10
<plan_b> they use armel ... does it also work with armhf?
<hno> plan_b, no. armhf needs armhf libraries.
<plan_b> ahh .. I see
<hno> we do have armhf r3p(0/1) libraries.
<TomNL> hno: could xbmc be compiled against those?
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<hno> TomNL, probably. But not sure anyone has sucessfully done so yet (or seriously tried)
<rm> mnemoc, do you know if there are pre-built working binaries of the latest Mali driver posted anywhere?
<plan_b> TomNL, this one seems to work on a mk802 https://github.com/empatzero/xbmca10
<techn> armel r2p4 are compiled wrong.. so they wont work with x11.. but without x11 it works
<plan_b> armhf libs?
<mnemoc> rm: in linux-sunxi.org/Mali there are links to the r3p0/1 libs too
<techn> armhf r3p0/1 libs shouldl work without x11 also
<mnemoc> wb techn
<techn> but not with x11
<hno> mnemoc, see #olimex
<techn> mnemoc: thanks
<rm> this all is so confusing
<hno> rm, what is confusing?
<rm> Mali There is currently no text in this page.
<rm> "there are links to the r3p0/1 libs too" <- why "too"?
<rm> "r3p0/1 libs shouldl work without x11 also" <- so do they work with X11?
<rm> and wtf is rNUMPERpNUMBER in the first place?
<techn> plan_b: yes they are armhf libs
<RaYmAn> rm: blame ARM for the numbering.
<techn> rm: no since they don't havent build with x11 support
<RaYmAn> also, fix the wiki if it makes no sense - put comments to clarify :P Not everyone here speak english natively (most people probably?)
<plan_b> techn, did not know that they exist
<RaYmAn> techn: curious - how did you determine they were built without x11 support?
<techn> plan_b: with https://github.com/cnxsoft/a10-bin/tree/master/armhf/lib I got something working on gles2
<techn> RaYmAn: binaries include compilation flags inside
<RaYmAn> ah :/
<mnemoc> rm: r3p0 is like version 3.0
<mnemoc> revision 3 patch 0
<mnemoc> rm: that's how arm versions the mali driver
<techn> RaYmAn: http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400, I pasted there couple examples
<plan_b> techn, was it usable?
<TomNL> but could r3p0 work with xbmc directly on fb, like xbmca10 is built
<rm> I see libMali, libUMP, etc
<rm> but there is no X11 driver?
<techn> plan_b: es2gears and gl-mark2-es2 worked.. but everything else crashed
<hno> at least it's better than how they name the components. DX910-SW-99003-r3p1-01rel0.tgz DX910-SW-99002-r3p1-01rel0.tgz for example.
<plan_b> hno, that's right
<techn> TomNL: yep.. It could work.. but cedar libs are armel, so xbmc is out then
<rm> mnemoc, is libMali.so the x11 driver?
<hno> rm, no.
<techn> TomNL: but directfb and other aplications/frameworks could work
<techn> we need armhf cedar libs + mali libs combiled for x11/ump support
<techn> *with
<hno> hopefully there will be armhf cedarx libs before not too long.
<rm> so right now the only way to get the X11 driver seems to be either "manual installation" or "automatic installation" from http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400
<rm> both involve compiling the driver
<rm> and what I wanted to ask, is there a pre-built driver for armhf available somewhere
<techn> rm: no
<rm> because I don't fancy setting up build environment for X11 on my Mele 2GB SD card
<techn> http://linux-sunxi.org/Framebuffer, feel free to fix/ make addions ;)
<mnemoc> techn: your wiki skills stink :p
<techn> mnemoc: that
<techn> mnemoc: that's my first wiki page :)
<mnemoc> :)
<ZaEarl> does anyone have an sd card image of xbmca10?
<TomNL> does anyone have an armel 12.04 rootfs which is very minimal?
<TomNL> miniand is so big and full of stuff :P
<ZaEarl> The images at http://a10linux.org/SD_card_images.html are pretty good
<techn> TomNL: I'm using linaro alip.. it's ~300MB
<mnemoc> TomNL: debootstrapping one is trivial
<TomNL> ZaEarl± thnx but these are all armhf i think
<ZaEarl> yeah, I guess so
<TomNL> i know i tried...but getting 12.04 didnt work yet with rootstock...have to try some more
<techn> TomNL: ah.. yep
<plan_b> I'm using debian-6.0.5-minimal-armel-2012-08-19.tar.gz
<TomNL> plan_b: xbmca10 working on that one?
<plan_b> TomNL, sorry did not try to run it on this version ...
<TomNL> hehe thnx i will try to fix it
<ceo16> if you want xbmca10.deb here compiling from me http://db.tt/4lgjPxV6
<TomNL> thnx, is it the newest one, including last commits?
<ceo16> the last commits are for android
<ceo16> However I have a cpu utilization of 80%
<plan_b> ceo16, thank you for the dropbox link
<TomNL> hehe sorry didnt see it was only android
<TomNL> thnx for the link
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<cat1> techn: ping; do you happen to know why there are so many undefined symbols in r3p0 mali, check here http://sprunge.us/LdSP
<techn> cat1: use that other r3p0 lib
<cat1> techn: which other
<techn> thas build without vg
<cat1> techn: ah, that explains! i spent some time of trying to understand what the heck is going on! what a relieve! :D
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<plan_b> hno, still here?
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<techn> mnemoc: updated sun5i-import pull-request with disp stuff.. then allmost everything is there.. expect something I missed ( auto merge not working )
<mnemoc> techn: new commit or the branch was fully remade?
<mnemoc> I merged them into wip/linux-sunxi-3.0/sun5i
<techn> new commit.. after couple second touchpanel commit is remade. I had to remove duplicate driver
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<mnemoc> oh, i'll trash it and reimport them all... :|
<mnemoc> techn: but thanks! :)
<techn> You can remove that manually if you want
<techn> sw-ts driver
<mnemoc> wich is the one you remade?
<mnemoc> ok
<mnemoc> touchscreen: import gt818, sw-ts and fixes from sun5i-import branch
<mnemoc> that I remove, right?
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<techn> yep..
<techn> now there is that new commit
<techn> and damn.. forgot to update commit text :)
<mnemoc> :)
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<techn> that disp change introduces new register.. is that a13 specific?
<techn> IEP, Image enchartment processor?
<mnemoc> uhm
<techn> +.start = 0x01e70000,
<techn> +.end = 0x01e703ff,
<mnemoc> damn lack of documentation :<
<rm> hm, even with IGNORE_ATAG_MEM I only get 443M
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<techn> hno: hmm.. would it be hard to implement framebuffer for uboot? :)
<mnemoc> techn: http://kexecboot.org/
<mnemoc> linux as bootloader
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<techn> mnemoc: uboot itself seems to support fbcon :/
<techn> also my n900's uboot shows console
<mnemoc> but you need to start porting hw drivers
<techn> yep.. but to make it work great we'll need framebuffer, hdmi, vga and lcd stuff
<mnemoc> maybe the lichee-dev branch already has fb support
<mnemoc> but i find far more reasonable to make an small linux based os than adding every hardware support to the bootloader
<mnemoc> like grub2... where does it end?
<techn> thats true
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<drachensun> I had the same thought, I wanted to make a u-boot with a dual boot option, maybe show some text to pick which system to start, android or linux
<drachensun> but you need the hardware buttons either way and I figured if I get the hardware buttons in u-boot I'd just set it to a special boot if the button is pressed
<drachensun> I'm focusing on tablets though so I have hardware buttons
<drachensun> has anyone been doing anything like that? Reading gpio lines in u-boot?
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