<Marex>
debianin: you know what 'to knit' means, right ?
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<debianin>
Marex, no, let me see a web translator...
<debianin>
ah ok, now i understrand
<debianin>
i hope, at least.
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<Marex>
debianin: :D
<Marex>
debianin: sorry, I'm fighting dcache-dma combo here ... far from funny
<Marex>
it's driving me nuts quickly
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<debianin>
Marex, are you fighting with ptototype of cubieboard?
<debianin>
what distro?
<debianin>
what means USB OTG "on the go"?
<Marex>
debianin: no no ... of course not
<debianin>
hardware seems powerfull, but lack info about software ,supported distros and so on.
<Marex>
debianin: I dunno man ... allwiener doesn't let anyone produce proper software (even the NDAed datasheet is crap)
<debianin>
mmm if no debina /ubunto allowed, than cubieboard is not for me at all.
<debianin>
debian/ubuntu
<Marex>
debianin: system software, not userland goo ...
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<debianin>
Marex, ? what you mean?
<Marex>
debianin: bootloader and kernel ... to make those proper, you need documentation to the chip and schematics to the board
<debianin>
as far as i read, developers are coing to public project and schematic, isnt it?
<debianin>
also rpi has a closed driver/firmware, but all other info are avaiable, so debina can run on it.
<debianin>
debian*
<Marex>
debianin: it's more about the kernel I'm concerned ... if you're forced to use some ancient hackish crap, your userland will gradually become incompatible with it
<debianin>
so? it will be cibie board "open" and "free" for real ot it is only a crap hype?
<Marex>
debianin: we'll see when it arrives
<Marex>
but until allwiener figures out that opening docs is _the_ way to go ... it'll all be crap
<debianin>
so let be patient and wait: the future wll anwser to us.
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<Turl>
have you guys seen the webOS release? :)
<Turl>
the mobile one is based on OpenEmbedded I'm reading
<Marex>
Turl: yes
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<captainigloo>
and one mele a1000 ordered ! i'm nan happy guy :)
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<TomNL>
i was wondering. i thought nobody succeeded in getting mali x11 driver running..then i came accross this
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<TomNL>
would this mean HW accell in X11?
<Marex>
TomNL: try it
<Marex>
hno: so how's it going ?
<Marex>
btw why can't we use the 3.0.3x kernel on the MK802 but have to stick with the ancient crap ?
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<TomNL>
hehe i am gonna try it...but have to see if it runs on mele
<Marex>
the chip's the same in all of those
<Marex>
I wonder, is it possible to rebuild that cyanogen mod for MK802 from Chris Troy ?
<Marex>
I have rough idea how to get and rebuild the tree, yet maybe I'm missing something important -- like I might need to do some postprocessing or something ?
<RaYmAn>
given the mk802 has very little unique hardware mostly everything should work with any CM tree for allwinner devices.
<RaYmAn>
TomNL: it kind of looks like he's at the same point everyone else is at.. X starts up, but beyond that not much...
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<Marex>
RaYmAn: then there must have been some reason why the old kernel was used
<Turl>
mk802 had broken AXP/CPUFreq last I heard
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<Marex>
Turl: AXP ?
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<Quarx>
Turl: cm10 ready:) almost all bugs fixed.
<Turl>
Marex: power regulator
<Marex>
Quarx: wasn't it the cedarX that didn't work ?
<Turl>
Quarx: nice :)
<Marex>
Turl: I see ... can that be somehow fixed ?
<Turl>
Quarx: with #ifdef? :)
<Quarx>
Marex: cedarX works fine. hdmi + sound too
<Turl>
Marex: I guess? :) nobody with an mk802 has cared to fix it so far afaik
<Quarx>
Turl: nope :p i cleanup many a10 code, like tv plug
<Quarx>
TomNL: ethernet support.. and i don't know more problems.... ethernet can be easy added too (i'm not tried add it for now)
<Quarx>
OTG works
<Marex>
Quarx: oh ok
<TomNL>
cool :)
<Marex>
Quarx: do you happen to have build instructions ? I know how to fetch the code, compile it ... is any postproc needed ?
<Quarx>
replace boot.img and modules
<Quarx>
i'm still use old kernel 3.0.8 not from sources (from ainol)
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<Quarx>
my tablet hates our sources of kernel
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<Marex>
Quarx: that's all ?
<Quarx>
and maybe update-script, if your tablet have different partitions
<Marex>
Quarx: that mk802 is some toy connected to tv
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<Quarx>
Marex: video?
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<Marex>
Quarx: what about it? Yes, it's a hdmi output to connect to tv
<Quarx>
hdmi works:)
<Quarx>
to tv too
<Marex>
Quarx: that's nice :)
<Marex>
does anyone actually roll out any official releases of CM ?
<Marex>
or semi-official ?
<Marex>
if not, oh well ... I might as well let it running overnight and see the result
<rzk>
Quarx: tried running your JB on A13?
<Quarx>
rzk:i don't have a13
<rzk>
hno and olimex guys are working on A13 olinuxino, they could use your help. also I have a13 cheapo-tablet and I thought about trying to build up sources from allwinnerwk git, they seem to have updated JB for a10/13
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<mnemoc>
rzk: Turl has JB running on A10, but no cedarx support because of api incompatibilities in the libraries
<rzk>
quarx says that he resolved issues with cedar
<RaYmAn>
kind of unrelated, but TI is crazy... Cortex M4, 80Mhz, 256KB flash, 32KB ram - 5$... It's like a super-powered arduino but cheap as hell. https://estore.ti.com/Stellaris-LaunchPad.aspx
<RaYmAn>
32-bit ARM cpu as well. Not quite linux capable, but still ;)
<rm>
RaYmAn, any estimate what they charge for international shipping?
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<RaYmAn>
rm: free
<RaYmAn>
I ordered two - paid 9.98$ in total including shipping to DK
<RaYmAn>
It's kind of crazy how cheap these boards are
<rzk>
thats TI marketing money going to right place
<RaYmAn>
I mean, for most purposes they'll do at least the same as arduino, but at a fraction of the cost
<rm>
people says TI wants to conquer the market via dumping
<rm>
with these boards
<RaYmAn>
yeah
<RaYmAn>
it'll work i'm sure
<RaYmAn>
:P
<rm>
and then raise prices :D
<RaYmAn>
As long as I get cheap boards I'm happy :D
<rm>
I'll probably order, but closer to 25th sept
<rm>
not a fan of sending money then waiting for a month for them to even ship
<RaYmAn>
heh
<RaYmAn>
I used money in my paypal, so whether it's sitting in my paypal account or in TI's grasp doesn't really matter much :)
<RaYmAn>
(i've previously received a bunch of stuff from TI, so not worried it won't arrive or anything like that)
<rm>
> For $4.30, the LaunchPad includes a development board, 2 programmable MSP430 microcontrollers, mini-USB cable, PCB connectors for expandability, external crystal for increased clock accuracy, and unrestricted software integrated development environments (IDEs)
<rm>
also one of those perhaps
<RaYmAn>
yeah, it's pretty cool
<RaYmAn>
they are definitely trying to compete with AVR and PIC
<RaYmAn>
now thye just need to make a pandaboard-like launchpad at 10$ ;)
<debianin>
cubieboard seems nice, but pity no more than 2 usb ports, 3 is better, 4 the best.
<RaYmAn>
that's what hubs are for
<RaYmAn>
:)
<RaYmAn>
I mean, it's not like they are expensive and I don't think the SoC supports more than two ports, so it would have to be a hub anyways.
<debianin>
the vantage is to have not external accessories, ub is accessoryie.
<rzk>
rm: we have a fail here, TI doesnt send stuff to Russia anymore.
<rzk>
no c2000/stellaris launchpads for us :(
<rm>
how do you know
<rm>
when signing up I see it in the list of countries