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<hno> Ok, strongly suspect it's voltage regulation that is making a mess.
<hno> looking at cpufreq driver i see core voltage defined as 1.4V for 1GHz, and voltage regulator sources says default is 1.25V.
<Marex> hno: did you not sleep yet ?
<hno> I did. And will sleep some more. Feeding our youngest a bit.
<Marex> heh :)
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<furan> salright
<furan> any new a10 developments?
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<lundman> yesm I turned mine back on
<The-Compiler> before I order a connector, can anyone confirm the pitch of the UART connector on the Mele A2000 is 2.00mm, not 2.54mm?
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<arete74> 3~
<mnemoc> techn: patch looks good :)
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<RaYmAn> woop, got my olinuxino :D now just another 5 hours till I get to plug it in :P
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<CIA-7> rhombus-tech: Jeremiah master * rc8e846b864bb /allwinner_a10/orders/.mdwn:
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<mnemoc> RaYmAn: \o
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: \o/
<RaYmAn> it's good timing - gf has evening-shift, lol
<mnemoc> :D
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<calris> woot - my A2000 cleared Australian customs :)
<calris> Now to make it from Sydney to Newcastle
<The-Compiler> yay :)
<The-Compiler> let's hope yours does boot anything else than Android, not like mine so far it seems
<calris> I'll force it too ;)
<calris> I have grand plans to grab the hno U-Boot branch and do some serious U-Boot hacking
<CIA-7> rhombus-tech: Jeremiah master * r84753ee61331 /allwinner_a10/orders/jeremiahyong.mdwn:
<rzk> sun5i doesnt have hdmi, right?
<RaYmAn> correct
<RaYmAn> probably because the video driver is more or less a copy of the sun4i driver
<RaYmAn> :)
<RaYmAn> also, the Mali GPU probably still supports HDMI, it's just not hooked up to the stuff required to expose it
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<The-Compiler> calris: let me know when you get it to work. Found a TTL to USB converter at work so I'll finally see what's going wrong today evening
<The-Compiler> or at least see *some* output
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<calris> Will do - I got Tom to send me a TTL to USB converter as well
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<calris> Any more news from gimli?
<The-Compiler> I found some board at work with an USB B-Socket, an FTDI and a digital insulator on it
<The-Compiler> so I soldered wires and a connector to the IC pins and I hope it works :P
<calris> that's a bit hard core :)
<Triffid_Hunter> heh http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/100_1698.JPG <-- arduino modded for 3v3 operation, have used as impromptu 3v3 serial cable many a time just by pulling the chip
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<CIA-7> rhombus-tech: Jeremiah master * rb5b678e3809b /allwinner_a10/news/discussion.html:
<CIA-7> rhombus-tech: Jeremiah master * rc0b410584fa6 /allwinner_a10/news/discussion.html:
<CIA-7> rhombus-tech: Jeremiah master * rcd3f7f008e6c /allwinner_a10/news/discussion.html:
<CIA-7> rhombus-tech: Jeremiah master * r879e98d002ab /allwinner_a10/news/discussion.html:
<CIA-7> rhombus-tech: Jeremiah master * r0c827c5633ac /allwinner_a10/news/discussion.html:
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<jquip> ?
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<calris> ?
<The-Compiler> Triffid_Hunter: clever :D
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<mnemoc> rzk: A12 has hdmi, A13 doesn't. both are sun5i. but we are merging the drivers anyway. https://github.com/techn/linux-allwinner/commit/1ad375bde5d3eafbcdc31ef27ba80e8ef28c38e8
<mnemoc> because of the lack of PIOs A13 needs to (ab)use the PMU
<jquip> anybody got linux working on the h6 net book??
<mnemoc> all A10 devices are mostly the same beside the script.bin config
<jquip> well apparently !! I have a tablet for which I have things working fine.. Changed the script.bin (taken from the netbook).. but kernel doesnt seem to load at all.. no kern.log, dmesg...nothing in var/log...
<jquip> and I dont have a serial logger to check the u-boot o/p
<mnemoc> never use an script.bin from a different device
<jquip> sorry let me rephrase (The tablet with its own script.bin works fine.. the netbook when used with the same sdcard and its own script.bin does not.)
<mnemoc> some devices have troubles with NO_HZ and PREEMPT. try disabling those.... but having a uart/usb is still critical
<mnemoc> if the laptop has the OTG port exposed you can test using a fel card and see if that boots
<jquip> does the u-boot for the net-book differ from the tablet? the boot process seems routed to the scdcard... Android doesnt boot... but then it doesnt reach to a point where the kernel loads..
<jquip> hmmm.. let me check on the OTG..
<mnemoc> it can also be that the dram initialization of the device isn't compatible with the code in the public uboot
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<The-Compiler> wait what, is the Mele A1000 or the A2000 newser?
<The-Compiler> newer even
<jquip> can any lead be found by looking at the android partitions on the config...(sorry to ask) I just have to go get myself a usb/uart then..
<mnemoc> The-Compiler: A2000 is newer, but both have the same PCB
<mnemoc> The-Compiler: mele has made 4 devices with the same board and only different case already
<The-Compiler> okay, just had a source saying the A2000 is older, kinda confused me
<The-Compiler> haha, I know :D
<mnemoc> A1000, A2000, A100 and the latest A3600 (with real antenna!)
<The-Compiler> haha, the 3600 looks ugly :D
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: the nand is an addon board, right?
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: no, only the wifi is addon. nand is soldered in the main pcb
<calris> Hmmmm - moving my source and target files to an SSD didn't do much to my compile time :(
<Triffid_Hunter> calris: mount -o tmpfs ...
<calris> Even going from 3Gb/s to 6Gb/s SATA...
<calris> Triffid_Hunter: can you elaborate?
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<lundman> ok, progress update?
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: ah, okay
<The-Compiler> anyone ever tried to use a SATA Port multiplier with the A10?
<lundman> maybe if we say his name three times, he'll show up and give us an update
<lundman> gimli
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<rzk> mnemoc: when we will take care of that kernel/u-boot issue with A13 I will test if it will work without hdmi module buit.
<rzk> built*
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<The-Compiler> http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?6,9414 looks interesting
<The-Compiler> might be the case why my A2000 does not boot
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<rzk> seems irrelevant, DDR3s and NANDs are standardized
<The-Compiler> well, that guy says otherwise ;)e
<The-Compiler> -e
<RaYmAn> rzk: timings has to match though. On these devices, the settings are 'hardcoded'
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<rzk> also, A13 script.bin fails with E: fexc-bin: script.bin: lcd0_para.lcd_bl_en: unknown GPIO port type 65535
* rzk pokes mnemoc
<RaYmAn> upgrade your tools
<RaYmAn> it's supported in latest
<mnemoc> rzk: as RaYmAn said
<mnemoc> rzk: what kernel/u-boot issue with A13?
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: sd-boot stuff - hno was having a lot of trouble yesterday
<mnemoc> I put my uImage in nanda :p
<mnemoc> yes, cheating
<rzk> mnemoc: u-boot-mmc works, but kernel/CPU dies when entering printk, even JTAG is not responding.
<mnemoc> uhm
<mnemoc> didn't know that
<RaYmAn> It must be something related to the olinuxino
<RaYmAn> given the kernel stuff works much better on my a13 tab, lol
<rzk> what a13 do you have?
<rzk> a13 tab
<RaYmAn> I haven't seen it released anywhere yet
<RaYmAn> so it's not really important =P
<rzk> not that I've created wiki page ofr?
<rzk> s/ofr/for/
<ibot> rzk meant: not that I've created wiki page for?
<RaYmAn> no, different one I'm fairly sure
<rzk> mobo photo, just in case. http://linux-sunxi.org/File:Q88-pcb1.jpeg
<RaYmAn> definitely very different
<RaYmAn> for some odd reason, the regular kernel works on that with almost no issues, lol. It even works when fel-booted :P
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: hmm..is uart1 brought out on any of the gpio headers? or do you have to attach to those small holes next to it?
<mnemoc> rzk: the left side of that picture next to the taped wires it seems they were putting staples randomly...
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: UEXT port
<RaYmAn> 'k, cool :)
<rzk> yeah, olinuxino has resistor-assemblies (I dont remember "official name" for those) instead of tons of inline resistors.
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<The-Compiler> So I'm trying to get a Linux running on my Mele A2000. With ArchlinuxARM I get http://paste.the-compiler.org/view/db1d1345 on boot (see line 151/154), with a Debian Linaro image (I think) I get http://paste.the-compiler.org/view/14dad45d and there it just hangs... any idea?
<rm> try a premade ubuntu image
<The-Compiler> WarheadsSE: ping (still on your holidays?)
<The-Compiler> https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/58 looks like my issue
<rm> I wonder does slashdot plan to sit on my submission for this whole week
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<techn> mnemoc: thanks.. That ifdef with lcd0.c could be removed.. but I can't do that since I only have a10 device :(
<WarheadsSE> The-Compiler: yes
* WarheadsSE poof
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<RaYmAn> that's a good start :/
<RaYmAn> [ 2.160000] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual addr9
<RaYmAn> [ 2.160000] pgd = c0004000
<RaYmAn> included kernel, lo
<RaYmAn> l
<The-Compiler> heh, I wonder what all this "TTL to UART converter drawing too much current" thing is about
<The-Compiler> the board I use has an electronical insulator on it after the FTDI (bummer I forgot the scheme at work) so that might draw some current and I can't simply disconnect the 3V3 pin
<cat1> hmm, got 3.6 kernel working on my mk802 somehow.. had to comment reserve_fb however.
<cat1> does anybody know what is this script about?
<cat1> static void __init reserve_fb(void)
<cat1> char *script_base = (char *)(PAGE_OFFSET + 0x3000000);
<cat1> ^^^^^^^
<cat1> {
<cat1> 3.6 kernel freezes when it tries to access that.
<mnemoc> that's a known problem in the 3.4 branch too
<mnemoc> but there it doesn't freeze, it simply reads zeros
<mnemoc> in the mean time comment out the "disabled" part and just assume the script.bin wants to enable all features
<mnemoc> it's pretty frustrating....
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<mnemoc> cat1: btw, are you Aliaksei Katovich?
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<The-Compiler> gah, whatever kernel/image I use, I just get random panics and freezes
<mnemoc> The-Compiler: try rm's kernel
<mnemoc> or disable NO_HZ and PREEMPT
<The-Compiler> I've tried different kernels (with NO_HZ and PREEMPT disabled if I can trust these people)
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<mnemoc> The-Compiler: rm's kernel is known to be bullet proof
<ssalevan> hey guys, I was curious if anyone here has compiled the PCB design… i'm working on compiling it and fped is coming back with a 41: syntax error near "?" when trying to compile the bat-clip-aa-th.fpd module from kicad-libs
<ssalevan> it looks like there's a variable there called ?pair that it doesn't seem to be digging
<cat1> mnemoc: yes, i am
<The-Compiler> mnemoc: hm. And where can I get that? Don't see any link so far.
<hno> RaYmAn, A12 have HDMI I think and is sun5i.
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<TomNL> gimli: any updates for us eagerly waiting for xbmc on a10?
<hno> and it's not MALI that delivers HDMI output, that is part of the display engine. MALI is just a GPU.
<jelly-home> TomNL: I thought gimli was one of those people that said something when they had something to say
* hno also saw similar problems trying to use the kikad libraries.
<hno> ssalevan, try mailing on the list. the ones working on pcb is generally not here.
<The-Compiler> rm: where can I get your kernel? ;)
<ssalevan> hno: rock, will do. thanks!
<rm> this one does not support Mali
<Marex> hno: so how's it going ?
<rm> The-Compiler, if you're looking to use it on the Mele with the graphics output, I currently have http://media.romanrm.ru/a10/desktop/3.0.38-rm2/ for that
<The-Compiler> I don't need graphics
<The-Compiler> and this crashes as well
<techn> The-Compiler: havy you tried different sdcard?
<techn> have..
<The-Compiler> hm, not since I have the TTL to USB adapter
<The-Compiler> same thing with a different card.
<rm> The-Compiler, it does work in Android w/o problems, right?
<The-Compiler> yes, Android boots fine
<The-Compiler> and I see the SD card and the FAT32 partition on it
<The-Compiler> hm, this time it did freeze while detecting the memory
<rm> I'd get the *.bin file your device has in NAND
<rm> and decode/examine it
<rm> compare with others
<The-Compiler> hmm, I should be able to get it with Wireless ADB and adb pull, huh?
<The-Compiler> also, if someone has a statically linked memtest binary for android, let me know
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<hno> Marex, well, core voltage is obviously wrong which is a step forward I think.
<hno> but got a bit mixed results clocking the chip at standard boot frequency.
<hno> and don't understand how the A10 SPL can work, it should have the same power issue.
<hno> at least it's not u-boot issues I am fighting but mostly lack of knowledge of the chip in question.
<hno> or chips actually, need to digest the AXP209 PMU a bit.
<Marex> :)
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<RITRedbeard> Finally found some time to take the plunge, going to strap Puppy on SDcard for MK802.
<hno> Marex, and JTAG debugging of u-boot turned out very easy when u-boot at least starts to the command prompt. The relocation address is then easilly printed by bdinfo.
<hno> The-Compiler, what board are you using?
<RaYmAn> hno: so it worked with that exact offset? Or did you have to add e.g. 0x30?
<The-Compiler> hno: Mele A2000 (or do you want me to be more specific?)
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<Marex> hno: vim arch/arm/lib/board.c ... s/debug/printf/ ... and fish the address from there ;-)
<hno> RaYmAn, it works with that exact address (it is not an offset).
<RaYmAn> Marex: you could just, you know, enable debug macros rather than rewrite c files ;)
<hno> The-Compiler, Mele should be pretty stable on any setup..
<RaYmAn> hno: it's an offset from memory base ;)
<Marex> RaYmAn: this is faster :p
<RaYmAn> Marex: not really :P
<Marex> RaYmAn: and yea, I know ... I wrote debug_cond() and redid debug() some time ago ;-)
<The-Compiler> hno: well, I get random freezes at random places when trying to boot anything except Android
<Marex> I remember it more than well
<hno> RaYmAn, no, it's the raw address.
<RaYmAn> hno: nitpicking :P It's an offset from address physical address 0! :P
<hno> But memory base is 0x40000000
<hno> all sorts of wierd stuff before that.
<The-Compiler> as soon as mum stops watching that stupid TV show I can get the *.bin off nanda
<The-Compiler> both of my PC screens don't seem to like the mele
* RaYmAn ponders where the hell he has a vga cable
<hno> The-Compiler, if you have a debug uart then just mount /dev/nanda somewhere and copy the bin to an sd card. Or pick up the copy mnemoc have already collected at github.
<gimli> jelly-home: +1
<The-Compiler> hno: well, if I had some normal *.bin it would boot... or there is something else going on
<The-Compiler> hno: I assume I don't get a shell via UART in android, or do I? :o
<hno> I get a shell on mine.
<hno> no prompt, but there is a shell listening.
<The-Compiler> oh.
<Marex> hno: export PS1 ;-)
<hno> Not sure if the HDMI display problems with the mele is due to color scheme (YCbCr instead of RGB) or due to HDCP protection being enabled by default.
<hno> Marex, I only run Android when booting fails so it falls back on NAND...
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<The-Compiler> so I have script.bin/script0.bin/magic.bin - which one is the relevant one?
<The-Compiler> copied the script.bin from nanda, still no luck
<hno> script.bin (script0.bin is a copy)
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<The-Compiler> so that wasn't it... I don't find anything on how I should run memtest on the Mele.
<The-Compiler> I still suspect it's corrupted RAM
<hno> The-Compiler, do Android also have problems booting?
<The-Compiler> no, Android boots fine
<hno> in the last days while playing with A!3 I have discovered some things which is clearly done wrong in u-boot-mmc which may cause system instability.
<hno> until linux kernel gets around and configuring things proper.
<hno> cpu core voltage is set wrong and some other small details.
<hno> hope to adress that within a week or so.
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<The-Compiler> but still it's weird I can't boot _anything_
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<RITRedbeard> Has anyone here used mp3 player as SD card writer for mk802 images?
<RITRedbeard> Not sure it's working out so well.
<RITRedbeard> It identified the onboard mp3 flash and the sdcard seperate but not exactly booting in mk802 :\
<RaYmAn> those devices don't always allow full access to sdcard
<Marex> jesus ... the linux-next is so fucked
<specing> ?
<Marex> hno: it's a chineese software, what'd you expect ;-)
<RITRedbeard> Maybe I spoke too soon, it either keeps rebooting or trying to find a video mode
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<Marex> did anyone play with dma_map_sg() ?
<Marex> hno: ^ ?
<RITRedbeard> RaYmAn, or make mistakes?
<RITRedbeard> rhj@T410:~/Downloads$ sudo unxz --stdout mele-sd-4gb-lui-5.2.90.img.xz | sudo dd of=/dev/sdc
<RITRedbeard> dd: writing to `/dev/sdc': Input/output error
<RITRedbeard> 2347024+0 records out
<RITRedbeard> 2347025+0 records in
<RITRedbeard> 1201676288 bytes (1.2 GB) copied, 738.913 s, 1.6 MB/s
<Marex> sudo su
<Marex> run command ;-)
<RITRedbeard> it writes
<RITRedbeard> 738.913s is correct
<RITRedbeard> you saying it invokes dd again and gets write error?
<RITRedbeard> i'll give it a try
<Marex> I'm avoiding sudo unless I need it
<RITRedbeard> fair enough, I'm trying it your way
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<RaYmAn> Marex: or sudo -i...
<RaYmAn> instead of sudo su which is just silly.
<Marex> RaYmAn: indeed, sudo on systems where it's unnecessary overkill is just silly
<RaYmAn> Marex: and su is better?
<Marex> RaYmAn: it's easier
<RaYmAn> Marex: you've clearly never done something like 'rm -rf / home/user/somedir' :P
<RITRedbeard> :(
<Marex> RaYmAn: me? no ... yet I was a bitch back in the old days ;-)
<Marex> RaYmAn: you know ... touch /\* ...
<Marex> or even better mkdir
<RITRedbeard> Marex, same error and behavior on the lapdock... are there recent images for mk802? I thought hno was working on something like that...
<Marex> RITRedbeard: images of what ?
<Marex> I have mk802 somewhere around here ...
<RITRedbeard> anything, debian, ubuntu, for A10/mk802
<hno> RITRedbeard, I am working on u-boot stuff, not Linux images.
<Marex> RITRedbeard: go read up on debootstrap / multistrap
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<RITRedbeard> RaYmAn, I'm beginning to think you're right.
<RITRedbeard> When writing to the card via mp3 player it times out or does something funny :(
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<Turl> mnemoc: ping
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