mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
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<lundman> erm, blue on yellow? love the swedish theme on rhombus tech but its hard to read :)
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<Turl> \o
<Turl> what did I miss this weekend
<Turl> ?
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<lundman> ok, finally got an OS back on mele, to test empat0
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<lundman> or not, maybe tomorrow it'll work
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<akaizen> 10.1" IPS 32GB RK3306 + 4x MALI400 tablet
<akaizen> **RK3066
<lundman> heh
<cat1> still too much expensive, i'd rather wait for a couple of months ;)
<Mazon> with imx6 around the corner ...
<mnemoc> die RK die
<cat1> jelly isn't this amazing development?
<cat1> i wonder what i am doing wrong:
<cat1> [ 181.807] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
<cat1> [ 181.807] drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
<cat1> [ 181.807] drmOpenDevice: Open failed
<cat1> ...
<cat1> [ 181.807] drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
<cat1> same for card[1..15]
<cat1> must be something that has to do with commit c8c9ae7ef2bec34dc529bba763f36e8d3b1b4266 in next_mali.. gotta check..
<cat1> indeed, that was it..
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<cat1> [ 688.450000] UMP<1>: Failed to allocate needed pages
<cat1> is thisp problem fixed in some branch?
<cat1> [ 688.560000] UMP<1>: _ump_ukk_allocate() failed in ump_ioctl_allocate()
<mnemoc> cat1: there is a next_mali branch, and some patches from techn and rz2k.... but it's still a jungle
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<mnemoc> akaizen: but still an evil-rockchip device
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<akaizen> mnemoc: true, can you extract needed files from android ROM?
<rm> this is a scam
<mnemoc> akaizen: to build your own android rom, maybe
<mnemoc> akaizen: to run linux, no
<rm> the seller has no feedback
<akaizen> rm: thats what a couple people said, but aliexpress / alibaba has a guarantee that you wont get scammed
<mnemoc> they don't release the money to the seller until you are happy
<rm> indeed, but maybe they are trying because they know of some way
<mysteryname> They're way too cheap to be legitimate... akaizen: there is the escrow service, however it'll be a long wait till anything happens.
<akaizen> mnemoc: hmmm i thought android 4.x + merged with mainline kernel, so necessary kernel modules cant be use in regular linux?
<mysteryname> They could have a really short "acceptance" time and it might be automatically verified. I know Tom cubie had 15 days till shipping.
<mnemoc> akaizen: you can't extract kernel sources from a blob ;-)
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<akaizen> oh, you expect that its baked into the kernel blob
<akaizen> some android (my HTC phone) has modules but its also very old (2+ yrs)
<akaizen> guess ill have to get my hands on a rockchip image and see
<mnemoc> rk is a wellknown gpl violator
<akaizen> Or wait for Allwinner to release a 28nm Dual / Quad A9
<mnemoc> from what i've read the next from allwinner will be a quad cortex-a7, not a9
<RaYmAn> which will ne roughly just as bad wrt gpl violations
<RaYmAn> :/
<akaizen> All of China seems to be a GPL violator ;/
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<RaYmAn> Probably because it's unrealistic to pursue the GPL violations *sigh*
<RaYmAn> I wonder if it would change anything if people went all-out on resellers wrt GPL
<mnemoc> gpl is only honored by those who want to honor it
<akaizen> And according to RMS: you either violate GPL or don't no 'degrees'
<akaizen> Well GNU just needs a bunch of lawyers on retainer
<RaYmAn> akaizen: it's still almost impossible to pursue it in china - from what I hear anyways
<akaizen> can you image if FSF had as many lawyers as Apple lol
<akaizen> imagine**
<mnemoc> afaik tom shipped the rest of the cubieboards with a buildroot based system built from the open sources
<RaYmAn> cool :)
<mnemoc> except mine :<
<akaizen> Tom used to work for Allwinner right?
<mnemoc> akaizen: yes
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: I'm sure you can get a copy though ;)
<akaizen> So he re-implemented necessary parts for OSS version of system?
<akaizen> mnemoc: Is he a hardware guy?
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: I'm stuck on 2 options. 1) wait until hno gets uboot working there, 2) wait until tom revives and send me a dd-able phoenixcard installer
<mysteryname> "used to work" so he left to make his own boards?
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: u-boot fails? :S
<lundman> hmm
<mnemoc> akaizen: tom was working on the bootloader and then on the smp stuff for sun6i
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: at least on the 1GB model it does
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: gets hung after SPL
<RaYmAn> meh
<RaYmAn> did you dump boot0/boot1 to compare memory params?
<mnemoc> mysteryname: he claimed family reasons. i believe he is moving to a different city
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: if you tell me how to get boot0/boot1 using fel...
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: oh, I thought you had jtag..
<mnemoc> i have the adapter, but my flyswatter is dead
<RaYmAn> ah :/
<mysteryname> mnemoc: I see, so what is his current involvement in the A10 chips from the point he moves?
<RaYmAn> presumably none since he quit his job? :P
<mnemoc> iirc some of his former coworkers are also $involved$ in the cubieboard
<mnemoc> but they don't speak english
<mysteryname> presumably, he does seem very invested in the product with the cubie board.
<akaizen> know of any info on how to get to kernel on all these ARM devices? from my understanding uboot -> sdcard -> kernel
<RaYmAn> it's actually sdcard (uboot-spl) -> u-boot -> kernel
<akaizen> I feel like I need to learn more about this uboot and loading the kernel and kernel mods
<RaYmAn> or nand boot0 -> nand boot1 -> nand u-boot -> kernel
<akaizen> Hrmm... let me recheck the boot flow chart from the A10 pdf
<RaYmAn> bootrom decides whether to boot from sd or nand
<akaizen> RaYmAn: Yup you are right SDC0 -> NAND -> NFC -> SDC2 -> SPIO -> SPI
<akaizen> Is bootrom rewritable?
<RaYmAn> no
<akaizen> Part of the chip? or external ROM module?
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<RaYmAn> afaik part of the SoC chip
<akaizen> So bootrom ~ BIOS and uboot ~ bootloader?
<RaYmAn> pretty much
<RaYmAn> and then there's an intermediary pre-bootloader bootloader :P
<mnemoc> bios usually does dram initializion, in our case spl does that
<RaYmAn> e.g. one that runs in SRAM and initialized external ram
<akaizen> spl?
<RaYmAn> ~ second program loader
<mnemoc> brom -> u-boot-spl -> u-boot -> linux
<mnemoc> when booting from the sd card
<akaizen> RaYmAn: mnemoc: cool, got it
<akaizen> How did you guys figure all this out?
<mnemoc> the brom pokes around to see from where to boot, and also include the usb hardcode recovery method known as FEL
<mnemoc> tom blessed us with a an small wiki document and a working u-boot mmc branch
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<akaizen> ah ok, so there were no oscilloscope, probes and logic tracing?
<mnemoc> nope
<mnemoc> but current u-boot work involves a lot of jtag
<mnemoc> because tom's uboot-mmc had everything hardcoded and that limited it's usage across sunxi devices
<mnemoc> akaizen: do you want to import that knowledge from the RT wiki into linux-sunxi's? :)
<akaizen> Sure, I got the templates for boards and SoC working last night
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<akaizen> but then I decided to reorganize the info in a better way
<mnemoc> :)
* akaizen off to sleep
<akaizen> more wiki and boot stuff later
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> good night akaizen
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<Quinto> hi i have imx53 QSB with Linux, i have modified my mx53_loco.c for set SD2 pin for to use a wireless module but i have some problem, who help me?
<zoobab_> hi
<zoobab_> I am trying to upgrade a MiniX with this:
<zoobab_> root@buzek /home/zoobab/mt/projects/minix/a10-tools [31]# ./a1x-media-create.sh /dev/mmcblk0 mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z linaro-precise-ubuntu-desktop-20120524-177.tar.gz
<zoobab_> the "Extracting HW Pack mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z" takes forever
<zoobab_> any idea?
<mnemoc> search for "Extracting HW Pack" within the script and add `set -x` right after it
<zoobab_> I already did that
<zoobab_> I added set -e set -x
<zoobab_> still hangs over there
<mnemoc> `set -x` .... you don't want to impose a `set -e` there
<mnemoc> and then see what is the real command that gets stuck
<zoobab_> + mkdir -p hwpack
<zoobab_> + pushd hwpack
<zoobab_> ~/mt/projects/minix/a10-tools/hwpack ~/mt/projects/minix/a10-tools
<zoobab_> + 7z x ../mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z
<mnemoc> or if it's trapped on a loop
<zoobab_> there it runs for 2 hours now
<zoobab_> maybe the SD card is too small with 2GB?
<mnemoc> uh
<mnemoc> hwpacks are small
<zoobab_> will try by hand
<mnemoc> abort and try to run that by hand
<mnemoc> yes
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<zoobab_> ah it logs into the logfile
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<zoobab_> I found the bug
<zoobab_> Processing archive: ../mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z
<zoobab_> file rootfs/lib/modules/3.0.31+/build
<zoobab_> already exists. Overwrite with
<zoobab_> rootfs/lib/modules/3.0.31+/build?
<zoobab_> (Y)es / (N)o / (A)lways / (S)kip all / A(u)to rename all / (Q)uit?
<zoobab_> and with the output the a log file it was not showing this
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<zoobab_> ================================================================
<zoobab_> Copy U-Boot SPL to SD Card
<zoobab_> dd: opening `hwpack/bootloader/sunxi-spl.bin': No such file or directory
<zoobab_> ================================================================
<zoobab_> where do I find this file?
<lundman> 19th
<mnemoc> i seems your hwpack is broken
<lundman> hwpack has been non working since 19th
<zoobab_> sun4i-spl.bin
<mnemoc> zoobab_: lot of things have changed since 2012.06.13
<mnemoc> zoobab_: so you need a newer pack
<mnemoc> as lundman mentioned since 19th they were broken
<mnemoc> but the latest is fixed
<lundman> only discovered today as I tried to get them :)
<lundman> not that I could get it to work, so got miniand again
<mnemoc> 2012.09.25 is emptyish
<mnemoc> 2012.09.26 seems fine
<zoobab_> for the minix, should I take the hwpack of mele or the mk802?
<mnemoc> in either case you'll need to copy the miniX's script.bin
<zoobab_> ah
<zoobab_> where is it?
<mnemoc> in the nanda of your device
<zoobab_> how do I access it?
<mnemoc> mount it, tar it, export it
<zoobab_> I can mount it in USB?
<mnemoc> you can copy it into usb
<zoobab_> ah with the file manager
<zoobab_> there is USB OTG, but I need a special usb cable for that I think
<mnemoc> nanda isn't normally mounted, so you need a shell prompt first
<mnemoc> assuming android, use adb shell to mount /dev/block/nanda
<mnemoc> then you can `adb pull` the files
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<mnemoc> zoobab_: if you can tar all the files in the nanda, I can then add it to the stock-bin-archive so next time people can find it there
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<penguin42> A8 that should be
<mnemoc> afaik those sitara are for industrial applications, not fancy CE
<penguin42> nod
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<Yakuzzi> did someone see this box before ?
<phh> penguin42: 2Gb
<phh> not 2GB.
<mnemoc> nice catch
<phh> well i'm suprised AM335x is capable of 2x Ethernet and DDR3
<phh> so it could actually be just a typo
<penguin42> phh: Oh yes! The ti page actually says 256MB
<phh> 256MB DDR3 on TI's site ..
<phh> yeah
<penguin42> Yakuzzi: Heck that's cheap
<mnemoc> but it's sold out :<
<rm> Yakuzzi, looks totally awesome
<penguin42> only thing it's missing is the SATA port
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<Yakuzzi> and it got 1gb memory, my mele only 512
<rm> here's what he still has in stock
<cat1> mnemoc: do i read your last comment as this: "yes, we'd rather keep these as cmdline params"? sorry for being slow though..
<rm> 512 MB RAM :/
<mnemoc> cat1: no problem. i expressed myself badly
<penguin42> 'Notes: our item(s) don't ship to italy.' what a bizarre restriction
<RaYmAn> not really - a lot of ebay has that restriction because apparently italy customs are horrific
<cat1> mnemoc: and the answer is?.. ;)
<mnemoc> penguin42: unless you have lived in italy ;-)
<rm> poor italians
<penguin42> RaYmAn: Ah
<mnemoc> penguin42: packages have an strong tendency to get stolen
<mnemoc> penguin42: or simply trashed to avoid the hassle of delivering them
<mnemoc> cat1: i rather keep those as cmdline params, BUT been careful about what the values they can take... which is basically default or 0
<mnemoc> cat1: and I hate the prefix with all my guts :<
<cat1> mnemoc: which one, sunxi?
<mnemoc> yes
<cat1> mnemoc: but how would you distinguish with other fbmem variants if any?
<mnemoc> there is no way it could be confused with other driver as it's a platform thing
<cat1> mnemoc: ok
<mnemoc> i mean
<mnemoc> in a perfect multiplatform world, yes, we need prefixing
<mnemoc> but... i don't know
<mnemoc> in that perfect multiplatform world the prefix would be the driver name
<cat1> mnemoc: will keep them as you suggested for now.. just wonder if i need to come up with patch on top of patch or just patch, the latter will cost me force update on remote side :)
<mnemoc> there is only one working copy involved
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<mnemoc> so I would prefer to get the fix squashed :p
<mnemoc> also, you made this for your 3.6, while I'm going to merge them into 3.4
<cat1> mnemoc: true
<Yakuzzi> i wonder if the offers of that guy are for real, this looks too good to be true
<Yakuzzi> not that i need the box but the keyboard costs the same as the box usually
<rm> 99.2% Positive feedback
<rm> legit
<rm> but yeah
<rm> this keyboard alone is worth a lot
<rm> Yakuzzi, do you recognize which keyboard model is that?
<rm> AA batteries
<rm> perfect
<Yakuzzi> think this one, really thinking about it, and it got a unifying adapter if it´s this
<Yakuzzi> i want the other box with this keyboard :P
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<VarmVaffel> anyone know of any good free TFTP servers for windows?
<mnemoc> for what?
<popolon> :))
<popolon> windows have only glass, wood or plastic and a handler
<popolon> no network connection for tftp service
<popolon> FoWtp (file over Window protocol ?)
<mnemoc> i suppose one can glue an small arm board with wifi to a window and use it a tftp server, but sounds like a weird choice
<VarmVaffel> jesus :P
<VarmVaffel> how about for linux then
<mnemoc> tftp-hpa
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<Yakuzzi> did anyone yet try a gigabit to usb 2 adapter and knows how much is possible on his device of the theoretical 480mbit
<Yakuzzi> talking of a10 devices
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<vinifr> have someone IBIS model of A13?
<mnemoc> you would need to contact allwinner for that
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<popolon> blender on galaxy tab
<popolon> in fact blenderplayer need to be removed before install the good file ?
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<vinifr> where i could find the map gpio to a13?
<mnemoc> info comes from http://linux-sunxi.org/images/e/eb/A13_Datasheet.pdf and the a13-olinuxino's datasheet
<mnemoc> schematics
<mnemoc> because the datasheet is likely to have mistakes
<vinifr> sorry, i mean the address map, like: "#define GPIOAOUT 0x1060"
<mnemoc> afaik there is no such thing
<mnemoc> GPIOs in allwinner's kernel are configured by script.bin,
<mnemoc> using port notation, not a number
<vinifr> so, could i use: "gpio_set_value(103, 1);"
<mnemoc> you can't
<vinifr> PB2103I/OPWM
<mnemoc> and?
<vinifr> so, could i use: "gpio_set_value(PB2, 1);"?
<mnemoc> no, you can't
<mnemoc> until the core of the allwinner kernel is entirely rewritten
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<mnemoc> what you can do is to enable the sun4i-gpio driver and pre-configure the pins in script.bin
<mnemoc> [gpio_para] section
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<mnemoc> then you'll get some basic control over them over /sys
<mnemoc> but only those pin you set in the [gpio_para] section of script.bin
<mnemoc> these are very flexible SoCs. but the kernel code is design for strictly preconfigured products
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<mnemoc> if you do C, and assuming the risk of been able to easily fry your board, it's compoennts and anything connected to it, you can take a look at pio.c in https://github.com/amery/sunxi-tools
<mnemoc> and implement something to allow raw changes over /dev/mem
<RaYmAn> the script.bin implementation does have on advantage - you can pretty much take any generic kernel with the right modules enabled and it'll boot, regardless of how things are connected
<RaYmAn> that is a frigging pain on tegra...Have to hack up board files to get things even vaguely booting :P
<RaYmAn> but I suppose device trees do the same, and in a much nicer way
<mnemoc> DT + pinctrl allows the same
<RaYmAn> yeah
<vinifr> 1 question, how do i edit the script.bin?
<vinifr> :)
<mnemoc> vinifr: same repo, bin2fex and fex2bin tools
<cat1> guys, maybe this was answered already, but what one can do about this error:
<cat1> [ 163.530] (EE) MALI(0): [maliModifyPixmapHeader:205] UMP failed to retrieve secure id
<RaYmAn> what are you trying to do?
<cat1> RaYmAn: just start xorg :)
<cat1> nothing special though
<RaYmAn> mali drivers aren't exactly working well yet
<RaYmAn> as far as I can understand at least
<cat1> so i may consider this error harmless?
* cat1 does not have access to hdmi capable screen and cannot see what is happening there :)
<RaYmAn> I doubt it's harmless. It probably means a lot of stuff doesn't work - but as far as I know, a lot of stuff doesn't work :P as in, most stuff.
<cat1> RaYmAn: actually xorg dies once in a while, and i believe this is the reason..
<cat1> but not sure
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<RaYmAn> what drivers are you using?
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<mnemoc> cat1: poke techn or rz2k
<cat1> kernel from next_mali and userspace r3p1.. well, it does not really match the kernel version but i think it does not really matter for this problem
<RaYmAn> right, so known broken drivers :P
<RaYmAn> but yeah, techn or rz2k
<RaYmAn> :)
<cat1> :D
<techn> zup
<techn> next_mali is for r3p0
<cat1> techn: right
<cat1> i just do not see that much difference, ioctl should be same
<techn> yep.. they could fit together.. but anyway libs we got are not ment for x11
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<cat1> btw, i had another problem with ump memory allocations, luckily fix was easy:
<cat1> modprobe ump ump_memory_size=256000000
<cat1> techn: actually what i want to achieve now is just to keep xorg alive
<cat1> do not expect from it anything more atm :)
<Turl> cat1: the mem allocation on the libs is hardcoded to 64M as far as I recall
<Turl> do you really want to allocate half/a quarter of the ram to the gpu anyway? :P
<cat1> Turl: i am talking about ump not mali
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<techn> cat1: but for that secureid(buf2) problem you could apply patch from my repo
<cat1> Turl: is it just safety limit, will be tuned later
<Turl> cat1: the userspace libs have the address and size hardcoded on them afaik
<cat1> Turl: hmm..
<Turl> I tried to move the allocation once and it complained because the address wasn't the one it had hardcoded on the libs
<cat1> techn: what is the patch id?
<cat1> techn: thx
* cat1 wonder if he can cook git am friendly stuff from github..
<Turl> cat1: add ".patch" to the commit view url
<techn> I should propably do pull request/ patch review.. but I'd rather wait until we got working libs
<mnemoc> techn: mailing list please
<cat1> Turl: just recalled it from earlier discussions! :)
<techn> cat1: what's that ump memory allocation problem.. I havent seen it
<cat1> [ 688.450000] UMP<1>: Failed to allocate needed pages
<cat1> [ 688.560000] UMP<1>: _ump_ukk_allocate() failed in ump_ioctl_allocate()
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<Turl> fuu nand :(
<cat1> techn: your patch helped, there is no error anymore, but xorg dies regardless..
<cat1> [...]
<cat1> [ 61.038] (II) MALI(0): MaliHWSaveScreen: ENTER
<cat1> [ 108.977] (II) MALI(0): MaliCloseScreen: ENTER
<cat1> [...]
<cat1> for some reason screen gets closed.. maybe this is mer specific..
<techn> cat1: are you loading windowing?
<cat1> techn: what's that?
<techn> if just plain x would start without problems
<cat1> techn: it is plain xorg, i can even run plain xterm on it, but it does not last long :(
<cat1> techn: but i suspect that there is something mer specific... will try to figure out
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<cat1> techn: yeah, that was something else that killed xorg; will bisect the ux startup sequence ;)
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<cat1> techn: was easy to find, mcompositor is to blame.. it gives spews interesing error before it dies:
<cat1> UMP: ump_arch_open() failed to open UMP device driver
<cat1> QEgl::display(): Cannot initialize EGL display: "Bad alloc (0x3003)"
<techn> great.. are you able to use mer mcompositor without x?
<cat1> techn: not sure if this is possible..
<techn> .. after thinking.. debug that error ;)
<cat1> need to ask on #mer channel :)
<captainigloo> i guess it's not
<captainigloo> unless it can be used with wayland
<cat1> captainigloo: they say it can
<captainigloo> ah great
<techn> wayland or directfb
<cat1> captainigloo: but wayland is no help here
<captainigloo> like me :)
<captainigloo> in the last part of this wiki page
<cat1> captainigloo: indeeeeed :D
<captainigloo> i tries with EFL and i get the same problem
<captainigloo> i even write a small test program that only initialize egl
<captainigloo> but same problem
<cat1> techn: there is also some glestest tool that tells me: Got no EGL display. wonder, what in Xorg.log would indicate that i do have one.
<cat1> captainigloo: did you try directfb instead of xorg?
<captainigloo> nope
<captainigloo> but somebody has accelerated graphics on top of frabuffer and eGL
<captainigloo> without X
<zoobab_> l
<captainigloo> with xbmc
<captainigloo> let find the git repo
<techn> cat1: I tried directfb way.. but directfb which comes with ubuntu is really old.. so I gave up since there is api breaks
<captainigloo> let me*
<captainigloo> https://github.com/empatzero/xbmca10 here it is
<cat1> wonder is i should re-compile xorg with --disable-glx..
<techn> http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400#r2p4 , there is differences with currect userspace libs.. I managed to get r2p4 working
<techn> with X
<cat1> techn: with recent kernel drivers or with old ones?
<captainigloo> cat1: i already do that, but without success, but i may missed something :)
<cat1> captainigloo: oh :)
<techn> cat1: v2 branch
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<captainigloo> http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400#r2p4 <= So there is finally opengl es working with x11 ?
<techn> captainigloo: I used libs from cnxsoftware's repo.. is that you? ;)
<captainigloo> iirc this libs are for armhf only
<captainigloo> i was using softfp one
<techn> hmm.. I'll update that wiki a bit
<captainigloo> but yes they should come from cnxsoftware repo
<captainigloo> i thinkk there is no other sources, as it's proprieraty software
<captainigloo> techn: what's the cnxsoftware repo you are talking about ?
<captainigloo> yep that on, but i tried with armel version
<captainigloo> as i'm using a toolchain for armv7a softfp
<techn> hmm.. you could check build command from binary
<techn> if it's ment for x11
<captainigloo> how to do that ?
<techn> I used just notepad and it's there as plain text
<captainigloo> i'm sorry what do you mean, which build command ?
<zoobab_> @mnemoc how can I dump the NAND on the minix?
<zoobab_> minix has some OTG with probably adb shell
<zoobab_> don't know if I need a particular usb cable
<mnemoc> zoobab_: please call it miniX, not minix. minix is an OS
<techn> captainigloo: in that binary you can find build flags.. it's in plain text format
<captainigloo> ahhh ok :)
<mnemoc> zoobab_: i've never used that device, but I suppose it's just like any other A10 with android
<techn> good night
<zoobab_> miniX sorry
<mnemoc> zoobab_: the stock gpl-violating kernel does let you see the whole logical nand, so you have to go partition my partition (/dev/block/nand[a-j]) dd'ing it to a file in /sdcard/
<zoobab_> how can I access it if I do not have adb shell access?
<zoobab_> if I install consolebot on it, with local shell I do not think I have enough rights to dump the nand
<captainigloo> techn: yes you're right armel version is not meant for X11 !
<mnemoc> zoobab_: all A10 devices I know come with `su`
<zoobab_> trying
<mnemoc> zoobab_: without root access you can't make a backup
<cat1> techn: heh, was trying to mix r2p4 user with r3p0 kernel -- no luck! get this:
<cat1> [nemo@localhost ~]$ glestest
<cat1> UMP: ump_arch_open() failed to open UMP device driver
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<mnemoc> cat1: that smells to permissions
<cat1> mnemoc: good idea!
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<cat1> now it confirms incompatibility:
<cat1> Device driver API mismatch
<cat1> Device driver API version: 14
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<zoobab_> dumping the nand* partitions
<Turl> cat1: yeah don't mix mali versions
<Turl> that's asking for trouble :)
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<zoobab_> is there a more recent rootfs then linaro-precise-ubuntu-desktop-20120524-177.tar.gz ?
<mnemoc> there is a version from sept.
<zoobab_> url?
<mnemoc> on the phone, sorry :<
<zoobab_> ok
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<L84Supper> http://tinyurl.com/8cbe42z A10 Mini PC's in a USB stick are down to $33, are they dumping the A10's in favor of something else already?
<traeak> a13 ?
<Turl> dual core chips? I saw some dual core "mini pc"s
<traeak> rockchip maybe?
<Turl> yeah possibly
<Turl> if empat0 xmbc works as advertised though, these might make a sweet deal for some :)
<projectgus> there could be other explanations, like cheaper ram prices or economies of scale
<traeak> empat0?
<Turl> I'm asking a random seller on alibaba now
<projectgus> in my experience alibaba sellers will tell you anything non-commital that they think you want to hear
<Turl> meh the trademanager thingy on web went on maintenance
<L84Supper> maybe they are bracing for the coming storm of A10 cards that will forever change the the face of ARM Linux ..... naahh
<L84Supper> are there similar low cost A13 products?
<L84Supper> cubieboards are all sold out, anyone hear when they be available?
<projectgus> have any cubieboards shipped yet?
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<L84Supper> the order button returns with: Cubieboard is sold out now. Please add your email address to our list. We will inform you when cubieboard is available.
<L84Supper> does they only have a limited supply of parts?
<penguin42> L84Supper: I think they made a first batch of 100 or something, and that sold out
<penguin42> L84Supper: It's always a good idea to do one batch first and see what the problems are
<L84Supper> we usually make a batch to test in-house before unleashing them on the public
<penguin42> L84Supper: I guess also it's difficult to guage how popular they would be
<L84Supper> maybe
<zoobab_> got the X running on the miniX
<zoobab_> in 1280x800 though
<zoobab_> any idea if it can go higher?
<zoobab_> installing chromium on the miniX
<ZaEarl> I don't see why not. All A10s should be able to do at least 1920x1080.
<lundman> yeah but they cant :)
<lundman> (right now)
<ZaEarl> due to framebuffer driver limits?
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