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CIA-16 >
rhombus-tech: William master * rd211f89aa490 /allwinner_a10/orders/cheslot98.mdwn:
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Byan >
so any news over here?
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TomNL >
gimli: any news from allwinner?
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gimli >
TomNL: yes, but no comment aoubt it. i go back to my old developemnt model. when things are ready i talk about it.
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TomNL >
ok :) i think thats a good idea, i am glad you guys are talking again! Good luck!
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lundman >
unless this 10yen will change yourmind
11:22
* lundman
slides 10yen to gimli
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Marex >
sigh ... why is the CM9 for MK802 so slow ? Is it leaking memory somewhere or something ?
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Marex >
or is it just a general lack of RAM so the device is indeed insufficient ?
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jelly-home >
Marex: you have a 512 or a 1GB version?
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jelly-home >
might just be it, there's probably a reason why andoid 4.x smartphones have a full GB
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popolon >
there are even 2GB ones
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popolon >
250€ at the today change rate
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Marex >
jelly-home: hm ... time to rape the SD card than, with swap on it ...
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jelly-home >
swap over network! what could go wrong
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Marex >
jelly-home: that's landing in 3.6 ;-)
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Marex >
swap over NFS :p
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Marex >
or was it 3.5? 3.7? something like that
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jelly-home >
3.5-ish
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jelly-home >
I mean, it existed before, you could do swap over nbd
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jelly-home >
however, tricky for the kernel to leave enough ram not to choke on its own gut
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rm >
and worked long before 3.5
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rm >
swap over aoe, nbd, even into a regular file on NFS, mounted as a loop device
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rm >
probably there are deadlocks e.g. when you run really low on RAM
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rm >
but for light use, it just worked for me
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jelly-home >
probably faster to swap to your desktop's RAM or disk over network than to kill the SD card with lots of small writes
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popolon >
Does someone still use Android on one of his arm devices here ?
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RaYmAn >
only my tablets & phones
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popolon >
I would like to know how runs blender on arm tablet using android ?
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RaYmAn >
There's a blender android port?
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popolon >
you can find the august 19 beta port following this link
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RaYmAn >
that's cool
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popolon >
my android device usb port is broken :/
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RaYmAn >
it seems to be for games though
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popolon >
there is player for gamess
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popolon >
and modeler now
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RaYmAn >
the site just only mentions the player
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popolon >
there was a screenshot of the application in last dev newsletter
13:41
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popolon >
this is the modeler
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popolon >
this is the player
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popolon >
still not finished
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popolon >
but already works
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popolon >
there is a linux/arm port too
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popolon >
(on *buntu distro at least
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RaYmAn >
I suppose it is mostly python so makes sense :)
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popolon >
and arm ask an official khronos OpenCL 1.1 certificate for mali 600 :)
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popolon >
no, blender is mostly in c
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popolon >
but lot of python code too
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RaYmAn >
it'll be interesting to see what thei rinterface is like
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popolon >
like this :)
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popolon >
should be better with tablet
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RaYmAn >
a screenshot doesn't tell much :)
13:45
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popolon >
=> that's the same interface
13:45
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popolon >
you can test the apk if you want...
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RaYmAn >
surely they must have done something to make it usable without keyboard
13:45
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RaYmAn >
yeah, I will =P
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popolon >
mostly usable by mouse
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popolon >
so no problem with a not too big finger or a capacitive stylus or resistive tablet with stylus
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popolon >
<= search for another mean to install the apk on its galaxy s :)
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popolon >
an xserver for android ?
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RaYmAn >
popolon: it's really not (the 08_19_12.apk) - it's just the player
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RaYmAn >
wrong url?
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popolon >
wrong reading then
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popolon >
still to wait
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popolon >
The developer still work on it, it could be out at the same time than 2.64 final, in september ?
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popolon >
else can probably already be compiled from sources
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popolon >
That's linked to Google Summer of Code : Alex Kuznetsov has Blender’s UI running in Android (Using Jason Wilkin’s work on opengl abstraction layers):
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popolon >
that's strange that the file is named blender and not blenderplayer
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popolon >
and has the same date that this news
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popolon >
s/that/than/
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ibot >
popolon meant: and has the same date than this news
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popolon >
RaYmAn, are you sure ? The BlenderPlayer apk is 16 Mo sized and the blender.apk is 30Mo sized ?
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popolon >
strange to see a grow of twice the size in two weeks :)
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popolon >
the actual x86 64bit version is about ~50 MB (not "Mo", sorry, french) bz2 compressed
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BoozeWooz >
helps??
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: you have to ask your question. I don't know the answer, but these guys work with ARM and booting.
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Marex >
popolon: Mo ?
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BoozeWooz >
o ok , i thought they would receive the question from the other IRC channel too :P
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz is asking if there's a boot process to start from SD, but continue loading from USB
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Marex >
popolon: how do you say megabyte in french ?
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ManoftheSea >
on an ARM device
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BoozeWooz >
Odroid-X to be exact :o
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BoozeWooz >
so it has exynos 4412 if thats relevant
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RaYmAn >
depends on what you mean by continue loading. If the device can load kernel from SD and e.g. rootfs off USB, that's fairly easy on most boards.
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BoozeWooz >
hmm well yeah i was thinking of placing /boot on SD-card and rest on USB but that doesnt work
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BoozeWooz >
i wrote image to SD-card, and it has these weird boot partitions at hte start :s
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: these guys will tell you, there's no standard boot process in ARM.
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ManoftheSea >
if that image is for the internal memory, it won't work from the SD
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BoozeWooz >
well.. there is a pre-made image. except its like 8gb, and comes with lots of useless crap pre-installed
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BoozeWooz >
so i guess i could botch it up a little, making it work properly
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BoozeWooz >
on the pc i currently use theres /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: sure, but on the PC, the firmware looks for the MBR
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ManoftheSea >
There's no MBR in ARM
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BoozeWooz >
and in there i can just do --set root (the media) and .. /boot/stuff
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RaYmAn >
if you can get a kernel starting up from sd, just passing a suitable root= argument (possibly + rootwait) to point at USB
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ManoftheSea >
Which is why these guys are trying to do an FSF-endorsable ARM system, with a standard.
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BoozeWooz >
but theres nothing in there to set the path sadly..
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BoozeWooz >
what directory would it be?
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RaYmAn >
it depends on how the bootloader and board is setup
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: do you know your bootloader on that device?
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BoozeWooz >
i think it was u-boot? but im not sure, how to check?
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ManoftheSea >
it's an android, right?
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BoozeWooz >
currently theres linaro on it
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RaYmAn >
it's running u-boot - at least that's the sources hardkernel gives out
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ManoftheSea >
Is the cmdline compiled in to the kernel?
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RaYmAn >
it's more likely it's in the u-boot script/env
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BoozeWooz >
uhh im not sure.. i can run terminal if thats what youre asking
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BoozeWooz >
but i can ctrl+alt+f1 to another desktop
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: do you have the kernel sources?
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popolon >
Marex, Megaoctet (octet=8 (bits), so a byte)
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ManoftheSea >
If you run make menuconfig, you can look in the kernel setup for a cmdline
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ManoftheSea >
If it's not there, we can assume it's in the u-boot
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BoozeWooz >
let me try to find it
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BoozeWooz >
yes they are here
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RaYmAn >
usually kenrels are setup to use bootloader passed cmdline if it's there and otherwise use the hardcoded one
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ManoftheSea >
RaYmAn: so if we rule one out...
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RaYmAn >
ManoftheSea: yeah, but that only works if it's empty : )Otherwise it says nothing
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RaYmAn >
i guess you could check if /proc/cmdline on the running device matches the kernel config specified one
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ManoftheSea >
oh yeah, procfs
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BoozeWooz >
i will check that, hold on
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BoozeWooz >
ughhh... my plug came out broken.. i need to solder it back on. moment please
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hno >
hi RaYmAn. I integrated the DRAM changes in test1. Yet to find a moment to test it proper.
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RaYmAn >
hno: cool - pushed it? I'll uhm, try and see if I can test it later
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hno >
RaYmAn, yes it's pushed.
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hno >
Looking into boot1 now as the clock initialization in boot0 seems to be only half-way.
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RaYmAn >
I guess it only initializes the absolute minimum
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GreenHide >
hi folks
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GreenHide >
anyone know where to buy a "Mele A1000" unit in europe?
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rm >
just buy from China and have it shipped to you
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GreenHide >
rm, I dont want to pay a s*it load of taxes!!
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GreenHide >
well thanks anyway
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ManoftheSea >
hi again, BoozeWooz
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ManoftheSea >
did you get anywhere?
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BoozeWooz >
yeah, i was thinking of loading busybox from SD-card
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BoozeWooz >
and from busybox i can load everything i want?
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BoozeWooz >
how does that sound?
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ManoftheSea >
good luck
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BoozeWooz >
is it difficult :o ?
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BoozeWooz >
you dont sound too convinced..
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ManoftheSea >
I believe you'll have trouble getting busybox loaded
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ManoftheSea >
Because of your boot sequence.
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ManoftheSea >
But once you've done that, smooth sailing
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BoozeWooz >
well problem with busybox is that there is no armv7 binary
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BoozeWooz >
here is the link for all busyboxes
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ManoftheSea >
sounds like you'll have to compile yourself.
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BoozeWooz >
uh oh.. never done that before
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ManoftheSea >
you're probably in over your head.
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ManoftheSea >
Download the source package, set your environment to use a cross-compiler, make
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ManoftheSea >
or, make config first, busybox is complex
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BoozeWooz >
well.. i know some C and made some programs with it but never compiled any linux kernel
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BoozeWooz >
config?
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BoozeWooz >
ooh yes make config : D
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ManoftheSea >
did you figure out how to set the cmdline?
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BoozeWooz >
the cmdline?
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ManoftheSea >
yeah, the linux cmdline
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BoozeWooz >
ive been doing 1001 things i think i forgot
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BoozeWooz >
you want me to look if i can go into cmd?
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ManoftheSea >
no. Did you check the kernel source for the cmdline?
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ManoftheSea >
And the /proc/cmdline, if it matches on your device?
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BoozeWooz >
not yet
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ManoftheSea >
If they match, you can set the cmdline by compiling it in
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BoozeWooz >
booting it now
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ManoftheSea >
If not, you'll need to edit u-boot (somehow) to pass a different cmdline
18:17
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ManoftheSea >
then, you'll need to either pass init=/bin/busybox, or you'll need to move busybox to /bin/init
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BoozeWooz >
well theres a short guide on installing your own things
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ManoftheSea >
busybox apps?
18:20
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ManoftheSea >
yes, but you need to cross-compile.
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ManoftheSea >
Do you know how to do that?
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BoozeWooz >
hmm in code blocks i have some compilers installed
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BoozeWooz >
im currently just compiling it on x86
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ManoftheSea >
I don't even know which compiler you'd need.
18:20
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BoozeWooz >
but make config stops at the following: " Character code to substitute unprintable characters with (SUBST_WCHAR) [63] (NEW)
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ManoftheSea >
but you'll need to compile for arm
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BoozeWooz >
its no problem i think, i can put the source code on the ARM device and make from there
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: try make menuconfig
18:21
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ManoftheSea >
sure, that'd work
18:21
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BoozeWooz >
hmmm but what do i do with the Character code to subsitute... ?
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ManoftheSea >
dunno
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BoozeWooz >
/proc/cmdline says:
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BoozeWooz >
root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rw rootfstype=ext4 init=/sbin/init console =ttySAC1,115200
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BoozeWooz >
its compiling
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ManoftheSea >
and the kernel sources? Do they say the same thing?
18:30
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BoozeWooz >
do you mean the kernel source codes?
18:30
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ManoftheSea >
if so, there's a good chance you could compile with root=/dev/sdXY to boot from USB
18:31
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BoozeWooz >
hmm well theres no /proc/cmd there so i guess there must be a binary that holds the content
18:31
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BoozeWooz >
so cant i just hex edit that binary?
18:32
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BoozeWooz >
hmm not bad actually, sec ill try
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: no...
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ManoftheSea >
what? /proc/cmd? Where did that come from?
18:33
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BoozeWooz >
i mean proc/cmdline
18:33
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ManoftheSea >
that's just informative, after the system has booted.
18:33
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BoozeWooz >
but it mst get its content from somewhere right?
18:33
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ManoftheSea >
In your kernel sources, run make menuconfig
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ManoftheSea >
search for cmdline
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BoozeWooz >
(in the compiled kernel)
18:33
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ManoftheSea >
I believe it's in the .config somewhere.
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BoozeWooz >
lets try to find this :D
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BoozeWooz >
geany is running a search "find in files" so ill be back in some hours :o
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ManoftheSea >
uh, wut?
18:37
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BoozeWooz >
thanks for your help, much appreciated :D
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ManoftheSea >
it's under "processor type and features"->"Built in command line
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BoozeWooz >
but then ill have to rebuild the entire kernel
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BoozeWooz >
i want just to have this hex edited and it wont be a problem
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BoozeWooz >
what file would it compile to?
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BoozeWooz >
vmlinuz?
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BoozeWooz >
currently downloading the kernel source codes, its fairly big
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ManoftheSea >
um, might be.
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ManoftheSea >
Could also be xipImage
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BoozeWooz >
its in config-35.02- etc
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BoozeWooz >
CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rw rootwait console=ttySAC2,115200"
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BoozeWooz >
/boot/config-3.5.0-2-linaro-lt-origen
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BoozeWooz >
so i just set this to some sda1-9 and happy times?
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ManoftheSea >
sorry, what?
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BoozeWooz >
:D welcome back
18:50
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ManoftheSea >
thanks.
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BoozeWooz >
i found it in /boot/config-3.5.0-2-linaro-lt-origen
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BoozeWooz >
CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rw rootwait console=ttySAC2,115200"
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BoozeWooz >
this any good ;O ?
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ManoftheSea >
does that match the running system /proc/cmdline
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ManoftheSea >
then I think you can expect a kernel with cmdline="root=/dev/sdXY ..." will allow you to boot from USB
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BoozeWooz >
well in proc/cmdline theres also init=/sbin/init and rootdelay=2
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hno >
BoozeWooz, is CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE set in your kernel .config?
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hno >
if not then it's using the command line set by the bootloader (usually u-boot)
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BoozeWooz >
# CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE is not set
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RaYmAn >
BoozeWooz: you're probably better off looking at u-boot
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BoozeWooz >
its a bad thnig :S ?
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BoozeWooz >
bah.... ><
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ManoftheSea >
it makes it harder
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RaYmAn >
no, it's a good thing
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hno >
It's a good thing the kernel do not forces command line.
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BoozeWooz >
i think u-boot got its own partition.. and i cannot seem to open it..
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ManoftheSea >
well, more convenient
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BoozeWooz >
what if i made it to force?
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RaYmAn >
then it would ignore u-boot's cmdline.
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hno >
You could, but you likely need console access anyway so focus on that first.
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BoozeWooz >
:DD which is what i want exactly
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RaYmAn >
but it's really quite silly. You're much better off setting u-boot's cmdline like you want it :P
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RaYmAn >
Did you get the serial board with it?
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BoozeWooz >
hmm it was like 5 extra usd so i passed
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BoozeWooz >
was like a dinky uart thing
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hno >
BoozeWooz, congratulations, saving5 USD just cost you countless number of hours pulling hairs.
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RaYmAn: do you know how to edit u-boot?
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ManoftheSea >
is that JTAG?
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BoozeWooz >
uhh what... but you said i cn just put it on force?
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ManoftheSea >
er, via JTAG?
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: there's the right way and the easy way.
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RaYmAn >
ManoftheSea: on that particular device? Not really - I don't have one. But I doubt it's particularly hard to do.
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ManoftheSea >
The easy way might work, but you'll have a lot of debugging if it doesn't
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ManoftheSea >
Being able to edit u-boot means you can change root= at will
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ManoftheSea >
as well as boot from other devices, etc.
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BoozeWooz >
welll.. only problem i see now is how to know what name the USB is
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hno >
ManoftheSea, u-boot settings is preferably done using serial console.
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BoozeWooz >
idk if it depends on what port its connected to?
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: use UUID
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BoozeWooz >
hmm interesting, yes that would do the trick
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hno >
UUID rewquires an initrd to look for the device.
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BoozeWooz >
2ndly, i can just binary edit it with a hx editor
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hno >
kernel do not hunt UUID devices
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BoozeWooz >
IF i could open that partition, which i cant
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hno >
life is so much easier if you have the proiper access channels open (i.e serial console)
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BoozeWooz >
hmm if i attach an usb in linux, now its sdb2
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ManoftheSea >
I assumed an initrd.
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: is that a good or bad assumption?
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BoozeWooz >
can i just use it as root=/ sdb2? or might it change?
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BoozeWooz >
uhh im not sure, i dont know much about linux tbh
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ManoftheSea >
it might change, depending on other usb devices plugged or unplugged.
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BoozeWooz >
thats bad
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ManoftheSea >
You're trying to do something very advanced, for not having much linux knowledge.
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:( i just want to boot from usb2
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BoozeWooz >
then i can put a debian, and have my own software installed
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BoozeWooz >
right now its unusable with this "unity" trash on it
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ManoftheSea >
unity isn't a distro
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ManoftheSea >
is it?
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BoozeWooz >
the desktop environoment
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BoozeWooz >
its linaro, based on ubuntu
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: you could just install gnome-shell, or xfce
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ManoftheSea >
You don't need to switch distro for that.
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BoozeWooz >
i want lxde
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BoozeWooz >
preferrably with ubuntu software center
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ManoftheSea >
so... apt-get install lxde
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BoozeWooz >
not from sd :o need usb2 to harddisk
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BoozeWooz >
pity theres no sata
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ManoftheSea >
why not from sd?
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ManoftheSea >
If it can hold unity and gnome3, you should be able to fit lxde
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ManoftheSea >
You might have to remove unity first, though.
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BoozeWooz >
its painfully slow, i mean like
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BoozeWooz >
takes ages to load something and very unresponsive
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ManoftheSea >
you could chroot into the usb, and run from there.
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ManoftheSea >
That wouldn't involve reflashing your kernel or messing with uboot
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BoozeWooz >
chroot?
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BoozeWooz >
i just putted it on CMDLINE force, and changed it to sdb1 but it didnt do anything ..
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ManoftheSea >
you're not familiar with chroot?
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BoozeWooz >
not really :o ?
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BoozeWooz >
please explain
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ManoftheSea >
BoozeWooz: you need to look it up on google, or man pages
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BoozeWooz >
i will, thanks
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but i will first try this cmdline thing, if that works then u-boot (proper way)
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ManoftheSea >
good luck
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BoozeWooz >
thanks... i have a feeling i will need it
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BoozeWooz >
oh and busybox is always an option too
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popolon >
forgot who ask me about in corporate sport in china
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popolon >
because I spoke about this picture :)
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popolon >
and can't find it again (in my thouthands of tabs :))
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popolon: no gurlz :p
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furan >
girls just slow us down
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ManoftheSea >
don't be sexist
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furan >
the sex which you are attracted to can slow you down
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furan >
how's that, mr politically correct
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furan >
it's not sexist, it's just the facts of life
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furan >
whenever I'm not in a relationship I get distracted by girls :)
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Marex >
furan: well ... girls do have their place :p
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(I hope it was politically correct ;-) )
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ManoftheSea >
Marex: that sounds even worse. But don't clean up just for me.
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Marex >
ManoftheSea: how does it sound even worse ?
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Marex >
ManoftheSea: it's the same for dudes, they also do have their place
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furan >
I am not against the sex you are attracted to at all
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furan >
e.g. I am attracted to girls, I like girls
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furan >
just saying it can be distracting!
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ManoftheSea >
Since PC-ness is in the eye of the perceiver, I can't speak authoritatively here.
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Marex >
furan: now that's the worst, you make me sound like I was gay
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ManoftheSea >
But saying "women have their place" sounds like "we tell women their place"
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Marex >
ManoftheSea: nay ... that's not the point
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ManoftheSea >
and saying "no gurlz" sounds like sexism.
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Marex >
ManoftheSea: that was definitelly intended sexism :)
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Marex >
ManoftheSea: I'm a man, I like girls ... and there were no girls in the picture, only guys ... :-(
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Marex >
ManoftheSea: so ... it was not balance, the picture was sexistic!
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ManoftheSea >
oh, there was a picture?
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popolon >
well there are too few mix basketball teams
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popolon >
but mens are often taller than girls
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popolon >
well, there are lot of tall girls too (depending of my height at least)
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Marex >
popolon: well yea, but I usually prefer girls to be less tall than me
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popolon >
perhaps tallest girls in china aren't interested in ARM SoC dev
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popolon >
I personally like both :)
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popolon >
probably if I play basketball, I want to win and girls was in opposite team, I prefer they are smaller
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popolon >
But I don't want to play basketball and if I play I probably want they win to make them happy as I don't care about the balloon
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Marex >
popolon: :D
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Marex >
popolon: that was sexistic!
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Marex >
popolon: hehe, I don't give a splat :D
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popolon >
I really don't want
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Marex >
I really don't care ;-)
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is it true that the non-otg usb ports on the a10 do not support hubs?
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popolon >
bizarre de mettre un - entre un prénom et un nom ???
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popolon >
Impressionnant le voir les tours du XIXe derriere sur la photo d'illustration de cet article :)
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popolon >
on se rend rarement compte dans paris, la focale devait être super longue :
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popolon >
y'a pas les champs exif, dommage
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popolon >
c'est pas le 19e dans cette direction, je suis con
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popolon >
c'est le XIIIe :D
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popolon >
la tour st jacques en travaux en rajoute une couche
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popolon >
a ca doit etre depuis montmartre ou un toit vers les galeries lafayette
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popolon >
tiens si j'arrêtais de monologuer ?
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ManoftheSea >
popolon: you're speaking fancy
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popolon >
weonc channel
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popolon >
wrong channel
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popolon >
I asked myself why I made a monolog on a so pulated channel where people are really active :)) really sorry
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orly_owl >
sacre blu!
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ManoftheSea >
I wondered why you were talking about art.
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