mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
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<Scepterr> phh i got h24 too :)
<Scepterr> Turl: where are the props ?
<Turl> Scepterr: on your device :P
<Scepterr> put em up for the lazy folk :p
<Turl> and run the extract files to make the makefiles :P
<Scepterr> bacon sizzling :)
<Turl> Scepterr: you might need to rebase frameworks/base against CM if shit explodes :P
<Turl> that's like a 99.99% chance of happening, I haven't rebased ics in ages :D
<Scepterr> No rule to make target `vendor/cm/proprietary/lib/armeabi/libjackpal-androidterm4.so', needed by `out/target/product/zatab/system/lib/libjackpal-androidterm4.so'. Stop.
<Scepterr> ;/
<Turl> hahaha
* Turl hates/d rom manager when that happened :)
<Scepterr> havent used compiled ics in ages, everything outdated :p
<Scepterr> recovery is fubar
<Scepterr> when did you last compile ? :p
<Turl> a while ago :P fails with something related to ui level or some shit?
<Turl> (and blame koush btw)
<Scepterr> recovery_keys.c
<Turl> and blame koush once again :P
<Scepterr> yah thats it
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<rz2k> anyone had experience with fighting bcm4329 drivers? I dont get how to get it work right without wifi power management system that my kernel seems to miss.
<Turl> the new 4329 driver is called bcmdhd I think
<rz2k> where I can get it?
<rz2k> I have bcm4329 in linux/drivers/net/wireless/
<rz2k> and usi-bcm4329 package
<Turl> tuna kernel would be a good place I suppose
<Turl> Scepterr: once you got a tree for your device set up let me know, I can give you a repo @ the org for you to push your stuff
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<Scepterr> phh: any luck with h24 ?
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<rz2k> I think I'm gonna give up on dhd
<rz2k> that kernel oops kills UART, then total lockup.
<destinal> what is h24?
<destinal> ibot: ~h24
<destinal> ahhh mini-x
<destinal> not really sure why anyone would want one instead of Mele box except I guess it's a little smaller
<rz2k> someone who have mini-x, please modify this page http://linux-sunxi.org/MinixX10 according to template http://linux-sunxi.org/Template:DevicePage
<rz2k> describe UART and etc.
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<hno> rz2k, what do you mean by infinite output?
<hno> and what do the failing code look like?
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<tzafrir_laptop> Has there been any work on getting the kernel support of A10 into upstream kernel?
<tzafrir_laptop> (IIRC there was a thread about it in the list, and the answer is: no)
<tzafrir_laptop> From what I was told it would require rewriting the drivers to use device-tree
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<hno> tzafrir_laptop, nothing at this time.
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<hno> Summer everywhere today?
<RaYmAn> it's certainly a bit gray here :(
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<Solexid> ping
<tzafrir_laptop> pong
<lundman> plonk
<Solexid> Hi!What part of the boot file initializes the bin?
<Solexid> evb ,script etc
<Solexid> Uimage or Uboot loader?
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<phh> [06:26:50] <Scepterr> phh: any luck with h24 ? <---- still not, i could install connectbot and "original" android term app through lubuntu and tf card
<phh> (which boots one every 10 tries ...)
<phh> but both apps are FCing at start. i'll try ab over tcp
<phh> adb*
<phh> i lowered ddr3 clock, perhaps it will boot easier
<phh> got adb over tcp \o/
<phh> and fixed that bitch.
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<Turl> lundman: ping
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<Turl> hno: summer? pff, I'm freezing :)
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<Scepterr> with phh around im not gonna have to do much :)
<phh> ?
<Scepterr> workin on the h24
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<phh> yeah i'm not sure. i'm hitting all bugs possible it seems.
<phh> like now the market no longer works
<Scepterr> lol
<phh> logcat tells me it's getting 400 http error code
<Scepterr> is trying to use mobile network instead of wifi ?
<phh> i'm using ethernet
<Scepterr> oh havent tried ethernet with it
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<Turl> Scepterr: is 3.2MB/s acceptable over wifi-soho router-ethernet-arm device?
<Scepterr> not really
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<RaYmAn> is that with or without NAT'ing?
<RaYmAn> cause on most smaller-grade routers, that kills performance insanely
<Turl> with, but I'm inside the NAT
<Turl> both devices
<RaYmAn> both on wifi?
<Turl> no
<Turl> one on wifi, one over ethernet
<RaYmAn> wifi what? N?
<ManoftheSea> it's enough if you only get 1Mbps from your ISP
<RaYmAn> unless you want to actually stream stuff from your LAN
<ManoftheSea> oh, from inside to inside? n/m
<RaYmAn> :P
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<Scepterr> its sufficient for 1080p
* ManoftheSea only gets 3Mbps from Cox
<Scepterr> has 100/15 cable line and 150/70 fiber optic :)
* ManoftheSea doesn't know what he'd do with it
<Scepterr> buy hdds
<ManoftheSea> hunh?
<Scepterr> expand storage once you get that much bw :)
<ManoftheSea> I can buy hdds over 3Mbps
<Turl> RaYmAn: yeah N
<Scepterr> ManoftheSea: lol thought you were talking about the 150
<ManoftheSea> 150?
<Scepterr> my fiber line
<Turl> any crap HD can cope with 150Mb/s
<Scepterr> yah im talking about filling them :p
<ManoftheSea> What? I said I don't know what I'd use faster internet for, and you said buy hard drives
<ManoftheSea> Fill them with what?
<Scepterr> if you dont know that...
<Turl> ManoftheSea: downloaded stuffs of course
<ManoftheSea> in b4 "But that's illegal"
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<RaYmAn> Turl: on a quick test on my fairly crappy router, I get 7-8MB/s over wireless (from device on gigabit ethernet)
<ManoftheSea> I can only use so many Linux mirrors
<Turl> RaYmAn: arm device on GbE?
<Scepterr> i can repo sync like a bawse :p
<Turl> or is it like a dual core intel? :)
<RaYmAn> ManoftheSea: you clearly arne't building android
<RaYmAn> Turl: yeah - your question was pretty vague :P
<RaYmAn> Turl: so yeah, dual core intel ;)
<ManoftheSea> android builds require gigs and gigs?
<Turl> my router has some cool toggleables regarding ethernet
<Turl> wonder if they'll improve perf
<Scepterr> ManoftheSea: simple answer, yes
<RaYmAn> ManoftheSea: yes..a single repo sync from scratch is like 10-15gb
<Turl> 'enable learning and aging' for the ethernet switch
<Turl> I always wondered wtf was that :D
<ManoftheSea> RaYmAn: how often does that happen?
<Turl> any ideas?
<RaYmAn> ManoftheSea: more often than you'd think :D
<RaYmAn> Turl: figure out what you want to test
<RaYmAn> :P
<ManoftheSea> RaYmAn: ok.
<Turl> ManoftheSea: around 6 months? :P
<RaYmAn> Either test ethernet to ethernet or wireless to ethernet, not randomly switching between both :P (e.g. verify whether it's wireless or ethernet that's having issues)
<ManoftheSea> sux
* Scepterr looks at repos; cmics, cmjb, cafics, cafjb, aospjb
<RaYmAn> if you're dealing wiht multiple versions of android it easily runs up
<RaYmAn> heh
<RaYmAn> indeed
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<Turl> Scepterr: caf has full repos?
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<Scepterr> yeah
<Turl> I thougt they just were the kings of cherrypicking :P
<Scepterr> you can build any android rls off cafs tree
<Turl> thought*
<Scepterr> and they have their full qcom builds
<CIA-121> rhombus-tech: Pawe master * rb54fbebe5c3f /allwinner_a10/orders/FreeSky.mdwn:
<CIA-121> rhombus-tech: Pawe master * r9411f189ebe0 /allwinner_a10/orders/FreeSky.mdwn:
<Turl> explains learning and aging for noobs
<Turl> (<- aka)
<RaYmAn> that shouldn't really affect transfer speed unless you have a really crappy switch and a ton of devices
<Turl> shouldn't indeed
<RaYmAn> is there any reason you think it's even remotely related? :P
<Turl> RaYmAn: yet I just enabled it and get 3.6/3.7MB/s now :D
<Scepterr> lol
<RaYmAn> I hardly think an increase of 4-500KB/s can be considered evidence :P
<Turl> I also killed ntfs with fire earlier today, it shouldn't have affected speeds either, there was a ton of cpu idle time, yet it doubled the speeds when I did
<Turl> RaYmAn: 500KB/s is like my full internet pipe, enough difference for me :D
<RaYmAn> My point is that it's a small enough gain that it's not even anecdotal evidence that your change had ANYTHING to do with it
<RaYmAn> :P
<Turl> RaYmAn: might have to do, I keep a shitton of connections to random IPs open too :)
<Turl> I guess learning & aging helps
<RaYmAn> only if those ips are local
<RaYmAn> also, did the router restart when making that change? :P
<WarheadsSE> Turl: what was that tar.gz for ?
<Turl> not precisely :P
<Turl> RaYmAn: no :P but I 'applied' the change on OpenWRT
<RaYmAn> I'm not that familiar with openwrt, but dd-wrt at least reboots (at least partially) when doing that
<Turl> this restarts the networking services I think
<RaYmAn> :P
<Turl> WarheadsSE: which tar?
<WarheadsSE> mali.tar.gz
<WarheadsSE> in re: h24 via Scepterr
<Turl> RaYmAn: my ARM device also plays music :P
<Turl> WarheadsSE: ah, that's just the mali libs, as Scepterr was lazy :)
<Turl> s/was/is/ :P
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<RaYmAn> Turl: do you have around 1000 devices at home? :P
<Turl> nope not so many :P
<Turl> RaYmAn: let me count :P
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<Turl> more like 6
<RaYmAn> so what you're suggesting with that change, is that your switch/router would have trouble keeping a constant list of ~6 mac address in a table? :P
<Turl> I think that with it disabled, it doesn't keep a list
<Turl> and just pumps all packages to all ports
<RaYmAn> well, that's funky, lol
<RaYmAn> ^^
<RaYmAn> wtf
<RaYmAn> so it reverts to a hub? :/
<Turl> I suppose so
<WarheadsSE> Turl: I just didn't recognize liballwinner
<Turl> as learning is off
<Turl> WarheadsSE: ah, that's part of allwinner's stuff to use 3g modems
<WarheadsSE> ty
<Turl> never killed the file on my vendor folder :P
* WarheadsSE deletes tar
<WarheadsSE> hmms.
<WarheadsSE> 6 devices on top of my desk..
<WarheadsSE> 3 under, one over on the futon
<WarheadsSE> and thats whats in my office..
<Turl> one of my ARM devices will handle 220V sooner of later
<WarheadsSE> PLus I gave 2 away..
* WarheadsSE scratch head...
<WarheadsSE> Right, and I have a Zyxel NSA-320 on order for a paid project
<WarheadsSE> but thats just a kirkwood variant
* Turl tries to figure out what's needed for a minimal cups installation and his printer
<WarheadsSE> on... ?
<Turl> on Mele \o/
<xxiao_> Turl: r u running openwrt on Mele?
* WarheadsSE shakes head
<WarheadsSE> which distro
<Turl> xxiao_: no, OpenWRT on my router
<Turl> WarheadsSE: debian
<WarheadsSE> ah, don't ask me then ;)
<Turl> basic cups + foomatic should do then right?
<xxiao_> Turl: i see, same here, also i'm waiting for wn730N
<Turl> my router has a thumb drive attached with the overlay there
<xxiao_> WN703N that is
<Turl> tl-wr1043nd here
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<Scepterr> counting phones,tablets, boxes ive got 15 arm devices <2 yrs old within 5ft of me :p
<WarheadsSE> I havent counted phones and tablets.
<Scepterr> ive only got 2 arm boxes :p
<WarheadsSE> + 5 more
<Scepterr> rpi and h24
<WarheadsSE> 4 pogoplug oxnas',1 goflex net,1 goflex home,1 pogoplug v4,1 iomega home media network drice cloude edition,1 Mele A100,1 Topkick,
<WarheadsSE> i have a feeling im missing something
<WarheadsSE> then the phones/tablets
<Scepterr> oh and my nas is arm
<Scepterr> marvell 1.6ghz
<WarheadsSE> 6283 then
<WarheadsSE> kirkwood variant, at the top of the heap
<Scepterr> havent figured out what i can do with it yet
<Scepterr> dunno if i can push anything other than stock
<WarheadsSE> whats the model ?
<WarheadsSE> make/model
<Scepterr> netgear readynas duo v2
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<WarheadsSE> hmms
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<Scepterr> the one on the right
<WarheadsSE> yup
<WarheadsSE> ah, much like the NSA-325 but with less ram
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<WarheadsSE> I dont think there is an issue with >2TB drives.. their software just doesnt know how to deal
<WarheadsSE> but, has a decent set of features OOB
<Scepterr> ill never want to put in >2 :)
<Scepterr> yah i got it cause i need a nas :)
<Scepterr> dlna works great off it
<WarheadsSE> yeah the 7283's have nice performance
<WarheadsSE> my Topkick has that in it
<WarheadsSE> w/ same 256
<WarheadsSE> the NSA-320 i am buying for a project has 512M in it, which should be sweet, although its only a 6281 so 1.2
<Scepterr> my original purpose for buying the rpi was seeing how well it works as a vm terminal
<Scepterr> and now im just buying random arm stuff
<WarheadsSE> lol
<WarheadsSE> vm terminal .. ?
<Scepterr> im opening an internet cafe and was thinking how cheaply i can expand in the future
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<Scepterr> or if i need to quickly deploy additional terminals
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<Scepterr> without having just more pcs laying in the back
<WarheadsSE> Scepterr: Ah, that kinda vm terminal
<WarheadsSE> a thin-client
<Scepterr> yah
<WarheadsSE> NX-server on the backend, and nx-client out there
<Scepterr> works reasonably well for office tasks
<WarheadsSE> video would suck
<Scepterr> hmm if anything ide prefer it all to be some kinda video stream with an overlay
<Scepterr> can hw decode the video :p
<WarheadsSE> The 6283 doesnt have hardware decoding
<Scepterr> too bad the h24 doesnt have composite out
<WarheadsSE> ah, topic switch
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<Scepterr> i wanna build a robot with my rpi :p
<Scepterr> soldered up servo control board already
<Scepterr> now to get ultrasonic rangefinder working
<WarheadsSE> doing that over spi?
<Scepterr> gpio
<WarheadsSE> yeah, was just wondering :P
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<Scepterr> microusb otg to usb 2.0 $0.74 +FS http://www.amazon.com/Micro-USB-OTG-2-0-Adapter/dp/B005QX7KYU/
<hno> How can they sell at those prices and free shipping?
<WarheadsSE> idk
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<hno> Sending a letter within Sweden costs more.
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<Turl> hno: they probably have some kind of contract to do bulk shipping
<Turl> and they ship from HK
<Turl> maybe it's govt subsidized too
<Turl> to boost exports
<rz2k> <hno> rz2k, what do you mean by infinite output? - infinite stack dump, first kills console drivers and all output goes in random codepages, then UART dies.
<hno> rz2k, ok.
<hno> Turl, "We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination."
<Turl> hno: I can buy it :P
<hno> Seems they only ship to the US.
<Turl> hno: I'm in argentina
<Turl> btw hno, talking with RaYmAn yesterday, it occured to me after reading some stuff online that we could use an uart usb adaptor on these devices with USB host/otg and without easy to find uart pins as a lazy solution to debug linux non-early issues.
<hno> Yes. Or even USB serial gadget driver on the micro USB directly.
<hno> s/micro/OTG/
<Turl> I heard from someone here that it didn't work (the gadget)
<hno> Should work. Have not tried yet as I do have UART on my Mele.
<hno> Anyone with an A13 device here now?
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<rz2k> who have admin rights at wiki, kill this crap http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Buywebtraffic
<rz2k> mnemoc: Turl
* Turl kills the crap
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<hno> lkcl, A13 is A10 stripped down to bare minimum for cheap tablet use and in considerably very manufacturing friendly packaging cutting down on board manufacturing costs as well.
<hno> It is not an upgrade from A10, it's a downsized even cheaper thing. Ofcourse it's crippled compared to A10.
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<lundman> hmm
<hno> lundman?
<lundman> just thinking
<hno> On anythng particular?
<WarheadsSE> hno: I agree on the A13 being a downgrade
<lundman> no
<lundman> off to beach in 5 mins :)
<lundman> more of a "I'm here, if someone was after me, for a minute" :)
<hno> Only if you have an A13 nearby.
<hno> Won't have access to A13 for another week..
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