mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
tuliom_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
tuliom_ has joined #arm-netbook
kaspter has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<Marex> mnemoc: fucked up
jlj has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
tuliom_ is now known as tuliom
tuliom is now known as tuliom_
dyoung-away is now known as dyoung
DEAT has joined #arm-netbook
avernos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<WarheadsSE> woo nitrogen6x...
<WarheadsSE> woosh
moo has joined #arm-netbook
repvik has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
moo is now known as Guest24648
tuliom_ is now known as tuliom
avernos has joined #arm-netbook
avernos has quit [Changing host]
avernos has joined #arm-netbook
tuliom is now known as tuliom_
dyoung is now known as dyoung-away
tuliom_ is now known as tuliom
tuliom is now known as tuliom_
tuliom_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
kaspter has joined #arm-netbook
kaspter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
eFfeM has joined #arm-netbook
rellla has joined #arm-netbook
<hno> Marex, have not had time to look at u-boot after getting the A13 to run stable, and have a bit of work remaining there which applies on both A13 and A10.
rellla has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
rellla has joined #arm-netbook
The-C0mpiler has joined #arm-netbook
<hno> Marex, and calris is working on cleaning up the current A10 tree a bit. Need to coordinate a bit there.
The-Compiler has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
rzk has joined #arm-netbook
rz2k has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
rzk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
pawel5870 has joined #arm-netbook
rz2k has joined #arm-netbook
hp_ has joined #arm-netbook
Quarx has joined #arm-netbook
ibrah has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<mnemoc> Marex: :-)
ibrah has joined #arm-netbook
hp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
popolon has joined #arm-netbook
<RaYmAn> hno: not exactly easy on nordic keyboards ;)
hipboi has joined #arm-netbook
<blahee> seconded. When i do want to browse back with screen, i usually just use the log feature as in CTRL-a H
hp_ has joined #arm-netbook
cat_n9 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
hipboi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
<Marex> hno: yea, I know ... he's whining into my gtalk all the time, not only about a10 ;-)
<lundman> M-p (esc-p) is scrollback in irssi
<lundman> C-a [ is scrollback in screen.
<lundman> :)
calris has joined #arm-netbook
<hno> RaYmAn, the screen combo? no... but you don't use that often. But being a C programmer on nordic keyboards is...
<lundman> main() á printf("hiö"); ä
<lundman> å
<lundman> ahh found it
<lundman> C-a C-v aa
<calris> lol
xenoxaos has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
hp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
xnxs has joined #arm-netbook
cat_n9 has joined #arm-netbook
ibrah has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
<calris> hno: ping?
ibrah has joined #arm-netbook
ibrah has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
xnxs has quit [Excess Flood]
xenoxaos has joined #arm-netbook
ibrah has joined #arm-netbook
<calris> Quiet night...
jlj has joined #arm-netbook
xenoxaos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
xenoxaos has joined #arm-netbook
* calris thinks hno must be asleep
popolon has quit [Quit: Quitte]
popolon has joined #arm-netbook
<calris> popolon: wb - short trip ;)
<Mazon> calris, well, it is broad daylight ;)
mSquare has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
mSquare has joined #arm-netbook
<calris> Mazon: not here - 9:00pm
<mnemoc> calris: .jp?
<calris> aus
<mnemoc> :)
<calris> Newcastle
* mnemoc needs to fix his mental model of the continents
<calris> East coast - North of Sydney
hipboi has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> calris: my brain had decided australia was more to the right and .nz was "aligned" with .jp... shame
ibrah has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
<rm> mnemoc, are you in Chile?
<mnemoc> rm: .es
<rm> also your website is a http://geeks.cl/ nginx error, and a http://www.geeks.cl/ github error :)
<mnemoc> rm: I have it set to return 503
<rm> boooring
<mnemoc> rm: I only use the mail address
<rm> but why .cl? :)
<mnemoc> I'm from there
<rm> oh, I see
<mnemoc> but i live in .es
<mnemoc> and the server is in .de...
<mnemoc> and irsii runs in .us ... connecting to a znc in that server..
<mnemoc> messy
hipboi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
<mnemoc> and to add more mess, i'm italian :|
<mnemoc> by passport at least
<rm> well, I have a similar configuration regarding servers, don't think it's a mess though
<mnemoc> a .de server with .cl PTR serving nothing related to the .cl domain it reverses to?
<mnemoc> messy :p
calris is now known as calris_away
hipboi has joined #arm-netbook
avernos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<popolon> calris_away,a reboot resoleved my problem with my intel opensource driver :/
e-ndy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
e-ndy has joined #arm-netbook
<rm> mnemoc, I am from Russia and have a server in France serving my .hk domain
<mnemoc> :D
avernos has joined #arm-netbook
<hno> calris_away, pong
<hno> yes I was asleep. Had a quite messed up night so took a lunch nap.
hp_ has joined #arm-netbook
jlj has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
SimonG1 has joined #arm-netbook
arete74 has joined #arm-netbook
jlj has joined #arm-netbook
<arete74> http://melea1000.blogspot.it/ xmbc support for xmbc
cat_n9 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
<mnemoc> arete74: j1nx made a post about how to use MX (cedarx power) as external player for xmbc too
<mnemoc> powered*
revident has joined #arm-netbook
cat_n9 has joined #arm-netbook
jlj has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
<mSquare> hello, I have compiled kernel & module from source (https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/tree/lichee-3.0.8-sun4i) & trying to boot allwinner a10 device...SurfaceFlinger keep crashing and seeing "eglInitialize(0x1) failed (EGL_BAD_ALLOC)" error in logcat...Any clues on how to resole them? (Google search wasn't successful for me)
<rm> xmbc support for xmbc <- a case of "Yo Dawg"? :)
<mnemoc> mSquare: be sure to use sun4i_crane_defconfig for android
<mnemoc> mSquare: but anyhow that branch isn't recommended. try to use the default one instead (allwinner-v3.0-android-v2)
<mnemoc> the lichee branch is there only for people who needs to add new modules to the gpl-violating kernel distributed with devices
<mnemoc> not for full builds
<mSquare> mnemoc: I first tried with allwinner-v3.0-android-v2, but kernel is not booting..with lichee-3.0.8-sun4i able to boot kernel though...
<mSquare> mnemoc: will try with sun4i_crane_defconfig ( used sun4i_defconfig before)
<mnemoc> sun4i_defconfig is for normal linux
<mSquare> mnemoc: oh..
<mnemoc> also, if using the stock uboot in nanda you'll probably need to enalbe the ignore atag mem config option
<mnemoc> in 3.0-v2, not lichee3
rellla has quit [Quit: rellla]
<mSquare> mnemoc: ok
xnxs has joined #arm-netbook
hipboi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
xenoxaos has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
SimonG1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
xenoxaos has joined #arm-netbook
xenoxaos has quit [Excess Flood]
ssalevan has joined #arm-netbook
The-C0mpiler is now known as The-Compiler
The-Compiler has quit [Changing host]
The-Compiler has joined #arm-netbook
jlj has joined #arm-netbook
<Marex> mnemoc: you know this "mem=<size>M@0xaddress" command line option, right ?
<mnemoc> sure
<mnemoc> Marex: why?
<Marex> it overrides the mem atag
<mnemoc> Marex: the stock bootloader from allwinner passes the mem info encoded in a magic address
<mnemoc> Marex: and the original kernel is set to trash mem atag
<mnemoc> Marex: that config option is to resurect that behavior
<mnemoc> also, in A10 mem= is quite risky because the mali driver expects the kernel doesn't know about the last 64M of the first 512M bank
<mnemoc> tons of hardcoded stuff
cat_n9 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<mnemoc> we tried to reserve that chunk "properly" but every experiement ended up in the kernel driver or the user space libs crashing
<mnemoc> awful
<hno> mnemoc, have anyone looked into how other soc kernels handle the mali memory?
<mnemoc> i don't remember the details, but at least the integration of linaro maintained mali-socs are very different than stock
<mnemoc> was*
<mnemoc> after merging/testing r3p0 (https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/69) we can try again to get rid of all that junk
<mnemoc> we froze the effort because some demi-god from ARM was going to receive a free mele from hiptop and then fix our libs and kernel integration....
<mSquare> mnemoc: Thanks a bunch..Have successfully booted with allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 kernel..
<mnemoc> mSquare: great
eFfeM has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
rellla has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> iirc rm tried to get 1G working passing two mem= (448+512) and didn't work :<
<mnemoc> 1GB*
<rm> because mine is hard-locked at 512
<rm> even boot0/whatever see only 512MB
<rm> and initialize
<mnemoc> ouch
xnxs is now known as xenoxaos
cheng has joined #arm-netbook
mSquare has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<hno> rm, boot0 have the memory size configured in it's header.-
<hno> it does not try to detect, only set things up per it's configuration.
<hno> boot1 and script.bin also includes memory configuration, not yet sure why it's in boot1.
pawel5870 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
SimonG1 has joined #arm-netbook
SimonG1 has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
<rm> I still haven't figured out how to fix that preferrably without fiddling with LiveSuit and Android firmwares
bsdfox_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<CIA-14> rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r80923642b3d2 /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus
<CIA-14> rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r7060f6bb3bba /allwinner_a10/news/a10.eoma68.pcb.png: update
pawel5870 has joined #arm-netbook
<CIA-14> rhombus-tech: lkcl master * re2d582c98c4b / (3 files in 3 dirs): CPU Card Schematics done
ssalevan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
jlj has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
<CIA-14> rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rbdfe5c8c082a /allwinner_a10/news/a10.eoma68.pcb.png: CPU Card Schematics done
<mnemoc> very weird wits ended up doing it
<Quarx> mnemoc: hello, i'm soo long no check changes in v2 branch...
<Quarx> but now it won't boot:)
<mnemoc> Quarx: if you are using the sick stock bootloader you need to enable the ignore atag mem config option
cheng has left #arm-netbook ["Leaving"]
jlj has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> Quarx: if not it will trust there is a sane bootloader properly passing the mem info, which by default you don't have
<Quarx> mnemoc: yea, thanks, it works:)
<mnemoc> Quarx: cool :)
<Quarx> spi patch still not merged
<mnemoc> some parts of it yes
<mnemoc> techn is working on doing it in a way that works for other devices too. not only aurora
<Quarx> ah, ok :)
ssalevan has joined #arm-netbook
ssalevan has quit [Client Quit]
<techn> mnemoc: just got info that I won bid for two allwinner tablets.. a10 and a13.. so I can test changes :)
jlj has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
SimonG1 has joined #arm-netbook
<mnemoc> techn: \o/
rellla has quit [Quit: rellla]
<rz2k> anyone tried to test this? https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/61#post-1251 mali400 2d accel., I've got mele a2000 yesterday, now playing with linaro 12.08 and xorg. when I try to set resolution in xorg.conf, mali drivers accept new resolution, but real resolution stays the same.
<rz2k> here is my xorg log http://pastebin.com/RN2t11H7
<rz2k> my output is VGA and kernel/modules is latest from cnxsoft daily builds.
<rz2k> my xorg config http://pastebin.com/u3znHi0v
hp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
Tsvetan has joined #arm-netbook
<Tsvetan> hi
<mnemoc> wb Tsvetan
pawel5870 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
gimli has joined #arm-netbook
popolon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
tuliom has joined #arm-netbook
guest__ has joined #arm-netbook
guest__ has quit [Client Quit]
Tsvetan has quit [Quit: Page closed]
popolon has joined #arm-netbook
<rm> I did not try the mali driver at all
<rm> and the only way to switch resolutions properly with fbdev, seemed to be via editing the script.bin
pawel5870 has joined #arm-netbook
CIA-14 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
<techn> rm you can use that tool to switch resolution.. i'll try to search..
<rm> it did not work completely
<rm> I was either getting a 1280x720 window in the lower-left corner of my monitor
<rm> or a full resolution, but only that window was visible, with the rest of desktop being black screen
<techn> for me it did change the resution.. atleast in fbcon :)
<techn> hmm
<techn> change that resolution and restart lightdm ?
<techn> or I mean restart X :)
<rm> restarted lots of times
<techn> or change x driver to fbdev (if you are using mali?)
<techn> a10_display was that tool I ment
<techn> http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?6,9002,9002,quote=1
<rm> ohh
<rm> that's a new one
<rm> for me
<techn> fbset doesn't work yet
<techn> it seems to change only virtual resolution
<traeak> heh
<rm> I only used "vga_on"
<rm> anyways
<rm> the most important question for me regarding the built-in video
<rm> does mali support DPMS?
<rm> the mali driver
<rm> anyone uses it here?
CIA-14 has joined #arm-netbook
<rz2k> seems like nobody is interested in mali anymore..
<hno> rm, no idea if the mali driver supports DMPS. In fact not even sure the hardware does support all levels of DMPS other than on and off.
<rm> on and off would be good enough
tuliom_ has joined #arm-netbook
<hno> on and off are easy to implement. on = normal, off = output disabled (no sync signals)
tuliom has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<hno> standby and suspend modes requires control of the sync signal states. It probably is possibe as well by playing with sync signal polarity, but not sure.
<rm> but are you sure you even get that level of control with A10
pawel5870 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
<rm> considering it has this table of fixed video modes
pawel5870 has joined #arm-netbook
<hno> yes, ofcourse you can disable/enable the video ports individually.
<rz2k> hm, seems like doozan has great amount of mele scripts and stuff, why he didnt announce them here? or he did and I'm blind?
<hno> and even shut down the video entirely.
<hno> and hardware do not have any fixed video modes, that's a driver artefact.
<hno> rz2k, there is interest in mali, but not quite sufficient manpower to finish it off.
<hno> it's a little difficult with the half-closed nature of things as outsiders can't even get information what is needed and have to guess.
<rz2k> j1nx some time ago said that ARM will recieve mele and look whats up, but no news about that.
<rz2k> I just dont believe that with amount of mk802/mk802II sales manufacturers are not interested in having x11 support.
<traeak> believe
<traeak> never overestimate incompetence
<rz2k> and talking about sales, seems like eoma68 netbook is expected to be sold with android?
<traeak> i mean you can't normally overestimate incompetence
<traeak> heh
<rz2k> if it will, I dont get who will buy it, there is new archos ti4430 based tablet with qwerty dock/case, asus transformer on tegra and chinese-crap a10 netbooks. only free market is native linux arm netbooks, sort of, geek stuff.
<rm> "mk802/mk802II play youtube and angry birds just fine. what is x11, is it on google market?"
<rz2k> lol
<traeak> the a10 netbooks would be interesting if they had sata and if the damn x11 drivers were more interesting
<traeak> of course assuming they would have 20hrs battery life
<rz2k> check eome68 spec for sata
<rz2k> for now, 3000mAh battery drives A13 for 3 hours with semi-full load
techn_ has joined #arm-netbook
<rz2k> time to have some sleep, good night.
<rm> nite
SimonG1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
techn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
SimonG has joined #arm-netbook
SimonG has left #arm-netbook [#arm-netbook]
<hno> Why would anyone want a laptop with Android? A convertible tabled I get, but laptop?
<xxiao> hno: that puzzles me too
<traeak> hno: boneheaded brain dead marketing folks
<xxiao> other than a toilet reader i use my netbook way more than that wifi-tablet
<xxiao> netbook + AWS is the best for on-the-go devel
<rm> AWS, Amazon?
<xxiao> right
<xxiao> my vps has limited memory for build stuff
<traeak> wth tls
pawel5870 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
hno has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me]
hno has joined #arm-netbook
<hno> traeak, getting a fully accelerated 2D X11 driver for A10 is only a matter of doing. The g2d API is relatively easy to follow, fully open source and exported by the framebuffer driver, only missing X11 side.
<hno> sadly A13 do not have g2d, so mali have to be used for any acceleration there.
<hno> and mali400 is not very good at 2d stuff.
<hno> plus the driver hell.
<mnemoc> i've been told that EXA drivers are "very easy to write"....
<Quarx> mnemoc: i opened new issue
<Quarx> about last commit
<techn_> Quarx: you are using android?
<Quarx> techn_: yes 4.1
<techn_> try removing Fb_wait_for_vsync(info); from panning or FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC
ssalevan has joined #arm-netbook
rsalveti has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<Quarx> ok
rsalveti has joined #arm-netbook
rsalveti has quit [Changing host]
rsalveti has joined #arm-netbook
<techn_> most propably removing from pan is the right way :)
<techn_> dunno why it was suggested in that patch I was send.. propably fixed something the wrong way :/
<mnemoc> should I revert? :<
gsilvis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<techn_> that one line.. yes.. Quarx is currently testing that change :/
gsilvis has joined #arm-netbook
<Turl> mnemoc: mali? :P
<mnemoc> that line is the only real change in the commit
<mnemoc> Turl: ehm uhm ... tonight or tomorrow morning, with the next 3.0.x
<Turl> ok
<Turl> mnemoc: there's some work to do still, config wise, as ARM implemented proper kconfigs
<Turl> namely change the deps on fb or whatever to CONFIG_MALI400 instead of _MALI iirc
tuliom_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
bsdfox has joined #arm-netbook
<Quarx> techn_: yes, after remove Fb_wait_for_vsync(info), no problems
<techn_> from pan?
<Quarx> yes, Fb_pan_display
ssalevan has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
<techn_> thanks :)
<Quarx> my aurora always have problems:D
pawel5870 has joined #arm-netbook
<Quarx> Turl: mali 3.0 works:)
<Quarx> now i can use this kernel too... problems with battery consumption is gone (don't know which commit fix it)
<techn_> Quarx: nice :) can't wait to get my tablets :)
pawel5870 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
Quarx has quit []
Guest24648 is now known as repvik
repvik has quit [Changing host]
repvik has joined #arm-netbook
hp_ has joined #arm-netbook
Simon_G has joined #arm-netbook
tuliom_ has joined #arm-netbook
Simon_G has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
tuliom_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
ssalevan has joined #arm-netbook
tuliom_ has joined #arm-netbook
pawel5870 has joined #arm-netbook
pawel5870 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
gimli has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
ssalevan has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
* WarheadsSE coughs
* specing sneezes
<WarheadsSE> oh look, more devices have arrived
<WarheadsSE> heh.
* WarheadsSE mumbles about mounting piles of unopened hardware
ssalevan has joined #arm-netbook
dfletcher_ has joined #arm-netbook
dfletcher has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
dfletcher_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
revident has quit [Quit: Combustible lemons? Bah, I bring you weaponized asparagus!]
tuliom_ is now known as tuliom
furan- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
jlj has joined #arm-netbook
popolon has quit [Quit: Quitte]
<hno> WarheadsSE, you are welcome to send some over here.
<WarheadsSE> :p
tuliom is now known as tuliom_
ssalevan has quit [Quit: Leaving.]