<DocScrutinizer05>
seems my cat been one of the 25% that are immune against catnip. It also wasn't useable as tobacco, so eventually I stopped watering it
<DocScrutinizer05>
;-P
<DocScrutinizer05>
(the catnip, not the cat)
<DocScrutinizer05>
then OTOH my cat been crazy without catnip, every now and then
<DocScrutinizer05>
she loved potato peel for example
<whitequark>
you tried to smoke catnip?
<DocScrutinizer05>
really went crazy for it, digging it out from bottom of filled kitchen wastebin
<DocScrutinizer05>
sure
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-)
<whitequark>
...
<whitequark>
okay
<whitequark>
well
<DocScrutinizer05>
tastes not really delicious and has no psychoactive properties whatsoever
<whitequark>
that explains
<whitequark>
everything, I guess
<DocScrutinizer05>
lol
<DocScrutinizer05>
I heard in WW-II they smoked seagrass form mattresses
<DocScrutinizer05>
can't figure it tastes better or works better than catnip
<whitequark>
I humbly suggest you have a vacation in Colorado
<DocScrutinizer05>
tumble weed?
<DocScrutinizer05>
nah, I'll stay with tobacco for rest of my life
<whitequark>
(... which if you do, won't be that long)
<DocScrutinizer05>
sometimes I think it's been long enough
<whitequark>
:/
<DocScrutinizer05>
anyway I'm not one of those longevity fanatics
<DocScrutinizer05>
"live fast, die young" been the motto of our generation
<DocScrutinizer05>
I'm allready much older than I planned to get
<whitequark>
I don't know, I'd surely rather die than spend last 20 years of my life in some nursery being demented
<whitequark>
but for all I know, modern medicine makes it possible to be of sound mind in 70s
<DocScrutinizer05>
right
<whitequark>
look at Vint Cerf
<whitequark>
the guy's still very much kicking it
<whitequark>
and probably will for at least a decade, maybe more
<DocScrutinizer05>
look at Mick Jagger ;-P
<whitequark>
or Knuth. I wonder if he ever finishes his massive manuscript
<whitequark>
well, that's not too bad either!
<whitequark>
damn, now I wonder how exactly catnip would taste if smoked
<DocScrutinizer05>
anyway, when I send s mail to some folks saying "you wanna administrate your infra yourself? Good luck! prepare for that infra to go down!" and then one idiot comes and accuses me I had threatened them with me "formatting the servers", then I really wonder if life isn't too long maybe
<DocScrutinizer05>
whitequark: smoke peppermint tea and you know it
<DocScrutinizer05>
(too long) generally or either for me or those guys
<DocScrutinizer05>
;-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
generally, since it obviously leaves time for dealing with such BS, or for either them or me since otheriwse we hadn't run into this situation
<whitequark>
yeah, figured it'd do something with maemo
<whitequark>
I certainly hope you have backups and a proven method for restoring them
<whitequark>
dunno how it was done, but we youngsters have a newfangled method for managing infra, called "chef". basically you describe your infra in a domain-specific language, then you give it a blank server and within 10min you have exactly what you described
<whitequark>
or you modify your chef config and rerun it, and get your actual config updated
<whitequark>
especially useful if you have 1000s of servers
<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer05: well, your statement could be interpreted as vote of extreme lack of confidence or as a threat. since they seem to be quite confident of themselves, they jumped to the latter ...
<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer05: but it seems to be a task you want to get out of. let them fight. you have much more important things to do.
<wpwrak>
whitequark: now i'm wondering if "chef" is a tool, a person, or some metaphysical form of existence :)
<whitequark>
chef is a program
<wpwrak>
there go my dreams of jeannie ...
<whitequark>
it's written in ruby, and there's a penchant for certain kind of naming in the ruby community
<whitequark>
e.g. chef operates on recipes, and the command-line tool for creating recipes is called knife
<wpwrak>
of course, she wouldn't need 10 minutes. it would fail spectacularly, but at least it would be done in the blink of an eye
<whitequark>
a collection of recipes is a cookbook, which is stored in a bookshelf... and so on
<DocScrutinizer05>
I however have a pretty clear idea how it looked like, seen same pictures from V2 development and I think also from early USA space program
<DocScrutinizer05>
wpwrak: you're using FF I guess. It's more forgiving for such BS
<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly you got cookies enabled then
<wpwrak>
whitequark: i thing there is something that looks like minor scorch marks. but yes, i asked myself that question, too. it may well have just fallen off the ramp ;-)
<wpwrak>
ah yes, cookies i have
<DocScrutinizer05>
whitequark: yeah that happens when it ignites but stops or significantly reduces thrust after a very short time
<DocScrutinizer05>
or even just one of several engines lifts the whole rocket on one side
<DocScrutinizer05>
while other ones don't work
<DocScrutinizer05>
there are several funny movies of V2 and other rockets lifting from start table ~50cm, then sinking down again, falling to the side and exploding in a giant fireball
<whitequark>
yeah, giant fireballs are invariably a side effect of immature rocketry
<whitequark>
no wonder you're so attracted to it :p
<wpwrak>
yeah, looks for a moment as if it would go after the sub ;-)
<wpwrak>
and 27:40 illustrates what a darwin award candidate would do :)
<wpwrak>
me, i'd rather politely excuse myself at the first sign of trouble and cowardly retire behind the next blast wall
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<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, darwin award warranted
<wpwrak>
even the last one is kind dramatic, even though they seem to have maintained a much safer distance
<DocScrutinizer05>
well, safe distance is always relative, see castle bravo
<DocScrutinizer05>
"duh, those are 30% Li6 and 70% supposedly inactive Li7 in there, a 40km distance should suffice by far"
<whitequark>
well, one can also overdo safety
<DocScrutinizer05>
then find yourself confronted with the largest explosion (western) humans ever managed to set off
<whitequark>
and get todays nuclear industry, stuck with 60-year-old designs where new could be more efficient, less wasteful *and* eventually safer
<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer05: eh? no, largest would be Tsar Bomba, 100Mt reduced to 50Mt
<whitequark>
Castle Bravo is mere 15Mt
<DocScrutinizer05>
"we could see the bones through our hands' flesh"
<whitequark>
oh, western. yes
<wpwrak>
western like in wimps :)
* whitequark
thinks "western" as in "not china or japan"
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<DocScrutinizer05>
wpwrak: well, anything significantly larger than the castle bravo or Tsar is simply useles, it just blasts away the vacuum in empty space
<DocScrutinizer05>
though I admit the term "useful" is strangely odd for such experiments
<larsc>
if you don't succeed at making a dent in the universe you can still try to make a dent in the planet
<wpwrak>
btw, the best "short liftoff" is at 11:13. just the right height :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
I guess 11:30 is the panorama view of [2014-03-08 14:42:52] <DocScrutinizer05> 11:58 rather
<DocScrutinizer05>
roh: thanks a lot for pointer to ina219, we decided for ina231 now
<wpwrak>
yeah, they have three different views
<DocScrutinizer05>
roh: high-end shunt, nice small package, 0.3mA supply current when active, and hooray, even a ALARM IRQ line with programmable trigger. Range 0.15mA .. 4000mA with a pretty low shunt of 20mR
<DocScrutinizer05>
s/trigger/threshold
<qi-bot>
DocScrutinizer05 meant: "roh: high-end shunt, nice small package, 0.3mA supply current when active, and hooray, even a ALARM IRQ line with programmable threshold. Range 0.15mA .. 4000mA with a pretty low shunt of 20mR"
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<roh>
DocScrutinizer05: nice
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, indeed. Thanks! :-)
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waves
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<sb0>
hi
<sb0>
roh, where would you go shopping for buttons?
<sb0>
and knobs/faders
<roh>
depends on whatfor
<DocScrutinizer05>
and how urgent
<DocScrutinizer05>
Conrad and some music (instrument repair) shops come to mind
<DocScrutinizer05>
when "go shopping" been meant literally
<eintopf>
mhhh, catnip
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<sb0>
roh, I'm looking for a rectangular, roughly 20x10mm, preferably metal, pushbutton key
<sb0>
if possible with rounded edges
<sb0>
black
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