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<whitequark> the nut actually sits perfectly tight!
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<wpwrak> the joy of cnc :)
<viric> cnc still makes me think of command and conquer
<whitequark> toolpath for a fixture
<whitequark> er, fixture clamp
<whitequark> openscam is pretty great, but it doesn't do tool size compensation
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<DocScrutinizer05> I wonder if a physics engine (doom?) wasn't a nice basis for a proper CNC controller
<DocScrutinizer05> at least you get the tool size stuff for free, from collision detection. Also ramp-up/down of stepper speeds should come almost for free
<DocScrutinizer05> ...from inertial modeling
<DocScrutinizer05> you model your tool as a "vehicle" of arbitrary shape and precision, and your engraving/milling target you model as a "race course"
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<whitequark> meh, linuxcnc already does all that
<whitequark> plus games do not actually care about precision
<whitequark> they just need to get it somewhat right; right enough it wouldn't look weird
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<whitequark> US and EU place sanctions on RU officials \o/
<DocScrutinizer05> meh, to ~12 of them
<DocScrutinizer05> too little, too late
<whitequark> well... yeah.
<DocScrutinizer05> might just help to stop RU from eating whole Ukraina
<whitequark> that will hadly happen, unless putin wants a civil war
<DocScrutinizer05> and going on westward after that
<whitequark> which he simply has no resources to wage
<DocScrutinizer05> well, Jutchenko story 2004(?) been not that different to what he's trying to do right now. Back then he was idiotic enough to poison that guy with dioxin, hoping for opposition against RU sock puppet Janukowic to break and vanish after Jutchenko would be gone
<DocScrutinizer05> this time he might act marginally smarter
<DocScrutinizer05> he already accepted Janukowic to be the only legit president of Ukraina still
<DocScrutinizer05> he already got parliament OK for sending troops to *anywhere* in Ukraina
<whitequark> parliament OK? which parliament are you talking about here?
<DocScrutinizer05> the russian "parliament"
<whitequark> I hope you do realize it's a set of sockpuppets
<DocScrutinizer05> sure
<whitequark> hardly ever relevant
<whitequark> every single party we have
<whitequark> a sad thing actually, the reason I don't believe in, say, overthrowing putin regime in russia
<whitequark> there is simply no one to take his place who wouldn't act more or less same
<DocScrutinizer05> some of those sock puppets already start babbling bullshit about RU nuklear strikes against USA
<whitequark> perhaps with more disastrous consequences due to even more glaring incompetency
<DocScrutinizer05> in RU TV
<DocScrutinizer05> are some of your sock puppets on crack now?
<whitequark> yeah I heard about that one
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<DocScrutinizer05> let's summarize - RU does: send troops without proper nationality signs to Krim; politics announce "we may send (official) troops to Ukraina any time"; regular troops gather behind easern border of Ukraina; sock puppets utter wet dreams about nuklear strikes against USA... Well, enough to make me feel W*T*F
* whitequark ponders what would happen if say EU would overthrow russian regime and set up an occupation government
<DocScrutinizer05> LOL
<whitequark> a Gedankenexperiment
<DocScrutinizer05> who would do that? I don't see anybody able to even come up with plans how to accomplish such thing
<whitequark> didn't US do that several times on middle east?
<DocScrutinizer05> apart from EU not being USA, I don't think you can compare anything USA did in the past with a plot where USA would take over Russia
<DocScrutinizer05> after taking Russia, they could move on and take China the next weekend ;-P
<DocScrutinizer05> and India on Wednesday after that weekend
<whitequark> why? I mean, what specifically prevents them?
<DocScrutinizer05> umm, maybe the simple fact that no Russian Colonel in a ABM bunker would listen to the new Russian president George Whatthefuck Bush
<larsc> ah, you just have to make the right promises to him
<DocScrutinizer05> s/ABM/ICBM/
<qi-bot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: "umm, maybe the simple fact that no Russian Colonel in a ICBM bunker would listen to the new Russian president George Whatthefuck Bush"
<larsc> some money here, a glorious title there
<whitequark> I dunno, he probably wants his wife and children to live
<whitequark> on the other hand if he really hates his wife, you're fucked
<DocScrutinizer05> МБР
* whitequark shrugs
<whitequark> "I am a resident of Sevastopol, Crimea, <Countryname>. AMA! "
<DocScrutinizer05> evades me
<whitequark> <Countryname>.
<whitequark> anyway, he brings up a good point--most of crimea's residents are in favor of annexing
<whitequark> it's really a good question, what's the right thing to do in this case
<larsc> I highly doubt we have the necessary information to anwser that
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<wpwrak> easy: 1) kill everyone 2) populate with settlers to your liking.
<kyak> "hi, i'm the 4 percent from Crimea"
<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: seems Russia did that a few decades ago already
<wpwrak> kyak: you live there ?
<DocScrutinizer05> well, maybe the killing was rather slow, and cruel, by deporting the Tartars to Siberia
<whitequark> wpwrak: DocScrutinizer05: that's what they basically did with Northern Ireland with Good Friday Agreement
<kyak> wpwrak: no, i quoted the phrase, as if the guy from reddit was speaking
<whitequark> "if majority of NI decides NI must be a part of I, so be it"
<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: it's a fairly common approach ... i can see why, humans kinda grow back, you don't really have to do much for that to happen
<wpwrak> kyak: ah :) good to know you're not in the area i just recommended purging
<wpwrak> whitequark: democracy with a bit of a selection bias
<DocScrutinizer05> whitequark: you know the ballots of that "referendum" choices: a) [_] Ukraina becomes Russian territory. b) [_] constituation of 1984(?) gets established again (which nobody knows exactly what it means, but anyway doesn't sound like an alternative or even opposite to a) )
<kyak> DocScrutinizer05: please stop showing your ignorance..
<DocScrutinizer05> and the containers for balots were glass, and ballots mustn't get folded. So much for anonymous secret election
<DocScrutinizer05> kyak: please stop insulting speech
* wpwrak gets the popcorn
<whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: of 1992
<whitequark> and b) includes Crimea remaining a part of UA
<DocScrutinizer05> well, the whole propaganda been "Fascism or Russia". Dunno if it needs anything more to see what happened there
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<viric> I saw some interviews on TV to krimea citizens
<viric> "I'm russian, I came here 35 years ago, and now I'm very happy to see this becoming russia"
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<viric> I think this explains quite much.
<viric> International controllers were a complete fake
<viric> One appeared in russian TV, claiming to be a Catalan deputee in parliament, coming to review
<viric> and he is a known catalan-hater fascist, that has nothing to do with the parliament
<viric> crazy.
<wpwrak> heh, any theories about MH370 ?
<viric> about what?
<wpwrak> Malaysian Flight 370
<viric> there was one talk about that at the blackhat meeting, no? :)
<wpwrak> ah ?
<viric> I remember the blackhat conference :)
<viric> (that's the 1st link that appeared on google)
<viric> ah no, wrong one
<viric> well, someone managed to get control of airplane devices with an android phone
<whitequark> that sounds fishy
<viric> he bought the airplane pieces from ebay, and spent time finding security breaches
<wpwrak> ah, injecting false transponder emissions. yes, they had that already at ehsm :) but MH370 stopped sending
<viric> he never tried in a real flight, only with the home pieces.
<DocScrutinizer05> lol
<wpwrak> ah, the more detailed controls. difficult to assess the veracity of that claim
<DocScrutinizer05> latest info i heard of: allegedly the airplane continued at least 7h of flight *after* they stopped sending transponder signals or intercom
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<DocScrutinizer05> but yeah, probably some passenger's android phone took over the control of the airplane, and a rogue virus took over control over the android phone, so even the passenger owning it couldn't avoid it eventually falling into the sea when gasoline used up X-P
<DocScrutinizer05> </sarcasm>
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<whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: relevant: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/03/stingray/
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<whitequark> should promote neo900 cause quite a bit, wouldn't it?
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<DocScrutinizer05> W**T**F?!! >>403 no robots.<<
<DocScrutinizer05> or is this what should promote Neo900? :-D
<whitequark> enable cookies or something
<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: lol, to the point obviously
<DocScrutinizer05> cookies are enabled
<DocScrutinizer05> ooh, I rejected them
<DocScrutinizer05> this time I accepted them, result is same
<DocScrutinizer05> :-(
<DocScrutinizer05> sorry, I'm not inclined to waste my time on such website
<DocScrutinizer05> which reminds me... afk, bbl
<whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: it's only you who are wasting your time on useless paranoid crap
<DocScrutinizer05> meh, seen those
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<whitequark> (useless paranoid crap) because you can be very easily tracked by the very measures you employ against tracking
<whitequark> sometimes I wonder if it's possible to make a browser which asks the very advertisers for data on an "average customer" and then opens pages by itself to make *your* profile match the one of that average guy
<whitequark> henceforth making the collected data useless
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<DocScrutinizer05> well, at least doubleclick.net etc are not spamming me with tailored-to-fit ads yet
<DocScrutinizer05> google OTOH starts to do that
<whitequark> I just use adblock. two birds with one stone.
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<whitequark> wpwrak: DocScrutinizer05: http://imgur.com/QuMCPrx,j8stgl9#0
<whitequark> Aperture Science Object Attachment System
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<whitequark> hngggg
<whitequark> what do you do if an endmill breaks in the middle of a job
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