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<gruetzkopf>
voting machines are illegal in germany
<rqou>
illegal for the government to use or "illegal" illegal?
<gruetzkopf>
illegal for any government election
<rqou>
ah ok
<rqou>
but still legal for an individual to own and study so that they can "influence" US elections :P
<rqou>
well, the "owning the machine" part
<rqou>
idk if the "influencing" part would also be illegal in germany :P
<gruetzkopf>
constitutional court killed them after CCC demonstrated that "these are not general purpose computer, you cannot play chess on them" (manufacturers said that) is false by putting chess on them
<rqou>
lool i remember that
<sorear>
so the germans listen to security researchers instead of suing them? what a concept
<rqou>
not always
<rqou>
iirc one of the car companies still tried to sue researchers
<rqou>
iirc some of the "EMV-related stuff" companies tried too
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<jn>
rqou: we have a voting machine at our hackerspace :D
<rqou>
how unbelievably pwned is it?
<jn>
you can open the box and swap EEPROMs without turning the power key
<jn>
and 24-bit hashes of the EEPROMs are printed on the declaration of identical construction :>
<jn>
it's a 80-style computer built in 2005, which is amusing, but not wrong per se. but it doesn't have any exciting anti-tempering features
<sorear>
so what you're saying is it doesn't run Windows XP and doesn't have wifi with default passwords?
<rqou>
lol there was one of those at defcon
<sorear>
by voting machine standards that's pretty good
<rqou>
people got e.g. the media player working on it
<rqou>
iirc it was so bad it's actually been decertified
<jn>
sorear: yep
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<awygle>
I was looking for something totally different and ran into this: