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<gruetzkopf> voting machines are illegal in germany
<rqou> illegal for the government to use or "illegal" illegal?
<gruetzkopf> illegal for any government election
<rqou> ah ok
<rqou> but still legal for an individual to own and study so that they can "influence" US elections :P
<rqou> well, the "owning the machine" part
<rqou> idk if the "influencing" part would also be illegal in germany :P
<gruetzkopf> constitutional court killed them after CCC demonstrated that "these are not general purpose computer, you cannot play chess on them" (manufacturers said that) is false by putting chess on them
<rqou> lool i remember that
<sorear> so the germans listen to security researchers instead of suing them? what a concept
<rqou> not always
<rqou> iirc one of the car companies still tried to sue researchers
<rqou> iirc some of the "EMV-related stuff" companies tried too
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<jn> rqou: we have a voting machine at our hackerspace :D
<rqou> how unbelievably pwned is it?
<jn> you can open the box and swap EEPROMs without turning the power key
<jn> and 24-bit hashes of the EEPROMs are printed on the declaration of identical construction :>
<jn> it's a 80-style computer built in 2005, which is amusing, but not wrong per se. but it doesn't have any exciting anti-tempering features
<sorear> so what you're saying is it doesn't run Windows XP and doesn't have wifi with default passwords?
<rqou> lol there was one of those at defcon
<sorear> by voting machine standards that's pretty good
<rqou> people got e.g. the media player working on it
<rqou> iirc it was so bad it's actually been decertified
<jn> sorear: yep
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<awygle> I was looking for something totally different and ran into this:
<awygle> another Chinese fpga I'd never heard of
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<pie_> does pango mean something in chinese
<pie_> they obviously cant with minimum wage <rqou> how do we make sure The Illegals(TM) can't vote?
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<pie_> the article is rather wordy thoguh
<awygle> pie_: we were talking about this in ##fpga earlier. It's cool but currently very big
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* kristianpaul clicks
<kristianpaul> nice awygle
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<anuejn> rqou: riot / matrix make nice irc clients :)
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<Zorix> heh matrix is kinda crappy
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