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<rqou>
whitequark: why do people keep asking you to use conda when it seems like it's barely even usable?
<whitequark>
rqou: physicists use conda
<whitequark>
we ship to physicists
<rqou>
ah
<rqou>
i figured i was missing some part of the "ecosystem" picture
<rqou>
interestingly google doesn't seem to be able to tell me that
<rqou>
google either finds people saying "why is this better than pip+virtualenv?" or "this is the greatest thing since sliced bread"
<whitequark>
pip+virtualenv don't work on windows.
<whitequark>
well, not if you need qt, llvm, numpy, and a zillion other native deps.
<whitequark>
conda is not really a python package manager. it's a linux and windows package manager based on a codebase for a piece of shit python package manager written by morons
<Ultrasauce>
i ran the iloveyou demanglesplosion just fine, clearly 5^10 is not enough
<Ultrasauce>
the 4GB-1 output is definitely telling though
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<qu1j0t3>
whitequark: haha
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<rqou>
azonenberg_work: do you have a preferred set of plastic tweezers?
<rqou>
use case is handling bare dies, especially around HF
<azonenberg_work>
Hmm
<azonenberg_work>
its been a while
<azonenberg_work>
i dont remember what htey were
<azonenberg_work>
i honestly use the aven tools metal ones i linked a while ago for most die handling
<azonenberg_work>
and around HF i just decant liquids between beakers and avoid reaching into the liquid with anything
<azonenberg_work>
then only pick up the die once its rinsed
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<rqou>
but metal tweezers also chip dies if you aren't careful
<azonenberg_work>
Which is why i try to be careful :p
<azonenberg_work>
i should prob use plastic tweezers more
<azonenberg_work>
I have a bunch of carbon fiber thingie
<azonenberg_work>
i just dont have a model to suggest
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<rqou>
wait azonenberg_work your new house has been acquired already?!
<azonenberg_work>
rqou: um, lol
<azonenberg_work>
we closed dec 22nd
<azonenberg_work>
Went out to the east coast for xmas
<azonenberg_work>
Came back, did an asbestos test, waited for that to clear
<azonenberg_work>
and started ripping the first floor to shreds
<azonenberg_work>
Second floor is still pending but almost all of the 1F sheetrock is gone now
<azonenberg_work>
We're still living in the place on the island you visited, our lease doesnt end until april
<azonenberg_work>
So i'm trying to get the minimal "gotta be done before we move" construction done by then
<azonenberg_work>
meaning all of the mold and water-damaged sheetrock (long-ago sump pump failure soaked some stuff that was never ripped out) has to come down
<azonenberg_work>
all of the other sheetrock too because the last owner smoked
<azonenberg_work>
all of the wiring that isnt up to modern codes (meaning, every last bit of it :P)
<rqou>
ah, this is why you've been dead for months now :P
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<azonenberg_work>
And then new sheetrock
<azonenberg_work>
ally even agreed to let me run wiring in the garage *and* first floor hallways and office (just not the bedrooms or second floor) in cable tray
<azonenberg_work>
:D
<rqou>
women :P
<azonenberg_work>
yeah i would have preferred tray everywhere
<azonenberg_work>
but hey
<rqou>
just gotta have the house look just a slight bit presentable :P
<azonenberg_work>
A lot better than nothing
<azonenberg_work>
i'll still have something like 150 feet of cable tray in there when all is said and done
<azonenberg_work>
and probably half a mile of fiber :p
<azonenberg_work>
Power and data are going in separate trays
<azonenberg_work>
I'm just starting to acquire supplies and the demo is still in progress, i have quite a ways to go
<azonenberg_work>
But its moving along nicely
<rqou>
ugh for the bajillionth time i can't find my ftdi breakout
<rqou>
why is this so hard?
<Ultrasauce>
my solution was buy 10 of those cheap uart breakouts and put one on every surface
<Ultrasauce>
cp2103 or whatever
<rqou>
i hate removing flux
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<balrog>
azonenberg_work: are you going to use NM Cable marked for cable tray use?
<balrog>
(for AC power)
<azonenberg_work>
No
<azonenberg_work>
Type MC
<azonenberg_work>
Because that can be routed exposed on walls etc as well
<azonenberg_work>
NM afaik cannot normally be left exposed
<balrog>
ah, yeah fair
<azonenberg_work>
also, MC is easily available COTS and i don't know of any tray-rated NM that's commonly stocked
<azonenberg_work>
it costs a bit more per foot but is worth it
<balrog>
(is it within code to use MC in residential?)
<balrog>
(yeah I think so
<balrog>
)
<balrog>
but check your local codes...
<azonenberg_work>
Yes, let me find the relevant citation
<azonenberg_work>
(and local is pretty minimal, it basically is just "import org.nfpa.nec"
<azonenberg_work>
)
<azonenberg_work>
330.10 is super generic and says things like "services, feeders, and branch circuits:
<azonenberg_work>
"
<azonenberg_work>
nothing even remotely resembling a restriction
<azonenberg_work>
(and i've seen it in resi installs in the past in exposed garages etc)
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