<zino> balrog: Thanks! (was about to go to sleep, but I guess that can wait a bit)
<zino> Too bad about the crashed presentation, but still very interesting.
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<azonenberg_work> lain et al: https://www.concept.de/nlview.html
<azonenberg_work> Rumor has it that this is Vivado's schematic viewer engine
<azonenberg_work> (actually a bit more than rumors, some quick googling turns up de.concept.nlview error messages in vivado/planahead lol)
<pie_> azonenberg_work, got a copy of poc||gtfo yesterday :)\
<azonenberg_work> pie_: :)
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<mithro> knielsen: could we integrate the netlistsvg stuff in some way do you think?
<mithro> knielsen: we also need something for SymbiFlow similar to that.
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<azonenberg_work> mithro: i need a good netlist rendering engine for my higher-level circuit RE work too
<azonenberg_work> more RTL level than cell level
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<whitequark> azonenberg_work: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8420252
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<azonenberg_work> whitequark: "hydrofluoric acid enema"
<azonenberg_work> wuuuut
<azonenberg_work> "A 33-yr-old white male presented with bloody diarrhea, leukocytosis, and left lower quadrant direct and rebound tenderness after a self-administered concentrated hydrofluoric acid enema while intoxicated from intranasal cocaine administration"
<pie__> wh
<pie__> at
<pie__> sounds like some russian mafia shit
<azonenberg_work> Self-administered
<azonenberg_work> He was just high as a kite
<pie__> but > HF
<pie__> how is he not dead or what
<pie__> or does it just turn your bones to jelly
<pie__> "self" :P
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<qu1j0t3> jesus.
<qu1j0t3> pie_: yeah, basically. Read some case reports. Not nice at all.
<qu1j0t3> can't remember why i was reading them a few years ago but i gained a very healthy respect for that shit.
<azonenberg_work> pie_: we dont know how much he had
<azonenberg_work> its not insta-kill if you're exposed to any amount of it
<Bike> maybe if it was really dilute?
<pie_> i suppose the quetion is was it literally hf or some hf containing product
<pie_> like, maybe he was so high he thought he needs some industrial drain cleaner to clean out his plumbing
<Bike> might be more info in the article, but am j gastroenterol made its website all shitty, as far as i can tell
<qu1j0t3> I mean 'concentrated hydrofluoric acid enema' is some super hot clickbait
<qu1j0t3> probably turns out it was olive oil or something
<Zorix> thats just disturbing
<pie_> qu1j0t3, lol
<azonenberg_work> pubmed is normally a pretty good source for legitimate journal articles
<azonenberg_work> The journal itself is paywalled though i think
<Bike> pubmed doesn't have the article, that i can see
<azonenberg_work> yeah pubmed is generally an index
<azonenberg_work> i dont think they have paper mirrors
<azonenberg_work> They're run by the national institute of health, not a journal publisher
<Bike> they do occasionally
<Bike> usually for at least somewhat notable articles, which this probably isn't
<azonenberg_work> lol
<Bike> https://www.nature.com/ajg/ seriously, do you see a link to archives? cos i fucking don't
<azonenberg_work> Yeah i guess "guy on crack shoved toxic stuff up his ass, it didn't kill him surprisingly" isnt THAT noteworthy from a medical perspective
<azonenberg_work> :p
<Bike> well, i found it, but it only goes back to 1998
<Bike> yeah you can just search pubmed for "anal insertion" or whatever and all kinds of darwin award fodder comes up
<azonenberg_work> lol
<qu1j0t3> TIL
<Bike> fuck it, i got a uni login, let's ruin my search history a bit more
<azonenberg_work> lol
<Bike> There are no results matching your search " Fulminant acute colitis following a self-administered hydrofluoric acid enema ".
<azonenberg_work> if you get a copy of the full paper i'm curious what the actual acid concentration was
<azonenberg_work> and what the damage turned out to be
<qu1j0t3> we're all on the edge of our haemhorroid pads here
<Bike> well, i could get an interlibrary loan
<Bike> hello world librarians, i desperately need to know about this enema
<qu1j0t3> keywords: buttstuff
<Bike> nobody seems to have archives pre-1998, that's annoying
<Bike> wp says this journal wasw founded in the 20s. that's seventy years of possible enema damage descriptions
<Bike> lost to time
<Bike> "American Journal of Gastroenterology Lecture: Gastric Acid Secretion: Still Relevant?" i am offered this consolation prize
<gruetzkopf> o/
<gruetzkopf> i'm finally awake again :D
<qu1j0t3> look what you woke up to
<gruetzkopf> wow
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<knielsen> mithro: The ice40 viewer code is a lot about fiddling with coordinates of line pieces to draw something that somewhat represents the ice40 physical layout and also is understandable to look at. I'm afraid it doesn't generalise too well in its current form, perhaps
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