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<azonenberg_work> awygle: Not that i know of
<azonenberg_work> my old TDR board mounts a FBG484 kintex with essentially no peripherals, just a Q-strip for GPIO expansion
<azonenberg_work> I have some blank PCBs somewhere if i look around
<azonenberg_work> you're welcome to grab one, i have a BOM and probably a solder stencil if i look around
<azonenberg_work> It has an Ethernet PHY and a single Q-strip with a couple of GPIOs and four GTXes
<azonenberg_work> and thats about it
<azonenberg_work> 4-layer PCB with ViP
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<rqou> hello, anybody at 34c3, what is the weather like?
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<rqou> alright, just boarded the ORD->FRA leg of my "fun" SFO->ORD->FRA->LEJ route
<rqou> Germany is far :P
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* felix_ waves at rqou. see you tomorrow at the 34c3
<rqou> btw felix_ what's your favorite mobile carrier in Germany?
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<felix_> i am using the telekom/t-mobile net. good net coverage, but probably the most expensive carrier
<felix_> but in a city probably all 3-4 nets are useable
<felix_> oh and not all prepaid cards are allowed to use the lte network
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<felix_> but the main reason why i chose that carrier was that i need some features that only that plan had as options (volte, wifi calling and having a landline number in addition to the mobile number where i can be called on my mobile phone)
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<cr1901_modern> TIL the 7-series has an ADC primitive, except it's not much better in terms of sampling rate (and much more complicated interface) than external SPI or I2C offerings...
<cr1901_modern> 1MHz sample rate is worthless for lots of things, why are so many ADCs limited to that?!
<felix_> it's sufficient for measuring voltages and/or currents in the system. and that's what it's mainly made for
<cr1901_modern> Will 1MHz catch transients/spikes?
<qu1j0t3> will any ADC?
<cr1901_modern> ... huh...
<qu1j0t3> it's hard to make them fast. there's a good chapter on this in the Williams Analog Design book
<cr1901_modern> Then how do we have tens of GHz sampling rates for _sampling_ oscilloscopes?
<qu1j0t3> fancy, expensive ADCs.
<cr1901_modern> I've heard of "using multiple ADCs at lower sample rates out of phase", but jitter is gonna bite you on the ass at some point
<qu1j0t3> but it's not easy to make them fast, and for the shorter divs, they have to use tricks beyond sampling rate
<qu1j0t3> yes, exactly. those tricks
<cr1901_modern> "shorter divs?"
<qu1j0t3> but that kind of circuitry is quite expensive and specialised. if you're looking for glitches in cheap circuits probably sampling isn;t the way :)
<qu1j0t3> cr1901_modern: faster sweep
<qu1j0t3> cr1901_modern: I forget the name of the technique you mentioned, but my Tek does something like that after a certain sweep rate.
<cr1901_modern> Oh. Confession: I don't actually know how oscilloscopes work (in how they are able to display a small section of a periodic signal for long periods of time @60fps, ithout the screen "rolling"/going out of sync
<qu1j0t3> (and wouldn't it still miss nonperiodic glitches completely?)
<qu1j0t3> cr1901_modern: triggering, in a word.
<qu1j0t3> cr1901_modern: sync the sweep to a level and direction. and then it gets fancier after that, like hold-off.
<cr1901_modern> Hmmm... possibly averaging multiple sweeps as well?
<qu1j0t3> yeah, digital scopes can do what you said above, use max sample rate but tiny phase differences.
<cr1901_modern> like I'll see glitches/noise for one 60fps frame, that will vanish when the screen is redrawn
<qu1j0t3> and my Tek does averaging in one mode
<qu1j0t3> yeah, you can use persistence to see those.
<qu1j0t3> in a storage scope or a digital scope.
<cr1901_modern> (3:41:05 PM) qu1j0t3: (and wouldn't it still miss nonperiodic glitches completely?) <-- I figured triggers could detect this too
<cr1901_modern> But it's Christmas, I'm not in thinking mode :), and I'm about to eat sushi
<qu1j0t3> maybe an analog trigger, or a specially designed digital one.
<cr1901_modern> right :D
<qu1j0t3> cr1901_modern: cheers, have a good xmas
<cr1901_modern> Tyvm, you too!
<qu1j0t3> speaking of scopes, i was watching this earlier. *DROOL* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9Fb6RUMsk&feature=youtu.be
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<balrog> ugh not this again :(
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<awygle> balrog: thanks
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<DrLuke> Freenode should auto-ban people that mention more than n people per minute
<cr1901_modern> Prob trivial to make a bot for that
<DrLuke> or even better: just un-voice them
<marex-cloud> They can generate as many nicks from as many ips as they want, so all they need is one message
<marex-cloud> And that one message is enough to cause annoyance/damage
<DrLuke> I guess this is why some channels are registered-only
<DrLuke> that way you at least have the additional hurdle of having to register with a unique email
<marex-cloud> This didn't happen for years, so doubtful
<marex-cloud> This spambot activity is quite recent
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<DrLuke> yeah, most of the time they're advertising some stupid radio show on youtube
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<ZipCPU> A little googling suggests someone is trying to sell a "no-spam" feature for 0.1 bit coins.
<ZipCPU> ... or perhaps I'm getting XMPP and jabber confused with IRC ...
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<Ultrasauce> somebody loves me! oh just a spambot
<qu1j0t3> no, we still do
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<awygle> Merry Christmas, ##openfpga