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<kieppie> hi
<kieppie> what's the practical difference between cubian & cubieez?
<kieppie> one just GUI & the other shell?
<kieppie> & what is the more stable & current stack?
<kieppie> hello?
<n3glv> ge kieppie
<n3glv> I see you're back
<kieppie> hi n3glv: how ya doin?
<kieppie> just checking in to see what the preferred stack is - cubieez or cubian, what the difference is & what is more preferred/stable
<kieppie> n3glv: what is your pref?
<n3glv> the one I can get to load
<kieppie> been playing a little with ArkOS, but think I'll give yunohost a spin. the CB build are install scripts, so I need to pick either cubieez or cubian as base
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<kieppie> ping?
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<kieppie> Hello? Hello? Hello?
<kieppie> Is there anybody in there? 
<kieppie> Is there anyone at home?
<kieppie> Just nod^wping if you can hear me. 
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<raffahacks> hi
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<fossxplorer> n3glv, hi
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<rooted-arm> just got some cubietruck and cubieboard2 , what's the first thing todo ? using SD installations ? and what problems i may get ?
<Bushmills> your old lady may be shouting at you, when you don't creep out of the workshop eventually.
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<rooted-arm> the playstore has stoped , any hint ?
<zombu2> Way down deep in the middle of the Congo. He stuck it with the others, and he danced a dainty tango. The rhino said, "I know, we'll call it Um Bongo"
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<zombu2> :P hows that for a hint
<rooted-arm> good lol
<zombu2> heh
<zombu2> now
<rooted-arm> and solved it too :P
<zombu2> what you mean stopped
<rooted-arm> trying to install whatsapp , but its says device not compatible
<rooted-arm> it was the wifi , reconnected it
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<zombu2> heh
<zombu2> why ruin a good board with such a shitty NAS app
<zombu2> NSA
<zombu2> :P
<rooted-arm> testing
<zombu2> ah
<rooted-arm> does cubieboard2 has a buit-in wifi ?
<rooted-arm> or should be customized ?
<zombu2> hmm does not look like it does
<buZz> cb2 does not have wifi
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<buZz> only cb3 aka cubietruck
<buZz> zombu2: +1 @ NSA whatsapp
<buZz> only thing worse would be installing the facebook app which can now just keep microphone open to 'hear what you are watching on tv' :D
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<zombu2> lol yeah i don t have any of the social media bs
<buZz> i dont leave android devices on the internet unguarded at all
<buZz> dont trust them one bit
<zombu2> you wanna know what i m doing call me
<buZz> what are you doing zombu2
<buZz> :)
<zombu2> HAH
<buZz> https://nurdspace.nl/Knitmachine <- my current project
<zombu2> touche`
<buZz> zombu2: you made it too easy :P
<zombu2> heh a brother knitting machine
<buZz> yeah
<buZz> have one?
<zombu2> well i guess the have to produce something now that everybody knows their printers are crap
<buZz> i still suffer a great lack of knowledge on this part
<buZz> brother was market leader on these types of machine
<buZz> s
<zombu2> whats the interface
<buZz> wish i knew :P
<zombu2> eh....
<buZz> about 80-90% of all knitting by this machine happens mechanically
<buZz> i mean, even with power disconnected, it still knits
<zombu2> umm
<zombu2> bullshit
<buZz> true fact
<buZz> these patterns originate from the computer though
<buZz> the carriage (which you move by hand) snaps onto an encoder rail
<zombu2> so what interface does the knitting machine have ...aka what cables can be hooked up
<buZz> which i guess also does data transfer somehow
<buZz> ah
<buZz> it has some 40 pin cartridge slot which is my best hope in interfacing
<zombu2> oh so it s a manual machine
<zombu2> got a pic of it?
<buZz> its a computercontrolled mechanical knitting machine
<zombu2> the interface port man
<buZz> ah, no :)
<buZz> i keep forgetting to take it ;)
<buZz> it looks like a pcb slot though , like a ISA slot but a bit smaller
<zombu2> heh a british plug
<zombu2> oh
<buZz> good point though , i should take more photos
<zombu2> size of an atari 2600 cartige??
<buZz> smaller
<buZz> i think its 3cm wide
<zombu2> prolly serial
<buZz> from the manual i deducted it is battery backed memory
<buZz> so my guess is sram
<buZz> maybe 16 address lines and 8 data lines
<buZz> or other way around
<zombu2> is it that lol port on the left of the pic?
<zombu2> lil
<buZz> but mostly the current task is just understanding how that machine works ;)
<buZz> ah no
<zombu2> well obviously you got the manual too so happy reading
<buZz> i also found the service manual
<buZz> but yeah
<buZz> much work to be done
<buZz> i have to gain about 20 years of knitting knowledge :
<buZz> :P
<buZz> zombu2: so
<buZz> what are YOU working on?
<zombu2> wide area wifi with zero handoff
<buZz> oo nice
<zombu2> waiting on my cubietruck3 to see if i can install the controller on it
<buZz> we have wpa2 enterprise at our hackerspace with many APs
<buZz> verry nice
<buZz> and the radius is also reachable from all other hackerspaces :P
<buZz> so, same credentials work all over the country
<zombu2> ah yeah radius is my next project
<zombu2> for now it s wpa2 aes
<buZz> that project
<zombu2> i m installing it on an island atm
<buZz> nice
<buZz> how many inhabitants?
<zombu2> yeah for now we only have 10 megs at the island but soon i be installing ubiquity airfibers to shoot high speed over to the island
<zombu2> bout 350
<buZz> ooo ubiquity is nice stuff
<zombu2> it is
<zombu2> everything i install there is ubiquity
<buZz> nice
<buZz> i guess there is good funding :)
<zombu2> it works so nicely i had to reboot the system only once in 7 month
<zombu2> yes it is heh
<buZz> :)
<zombu2> i mean the stuff is dirt cheap
<buZz> you just need a ton of it ;)
<zombu2> it s not too bad the range of these ap's is great
<zombu2> i put up a tower on the main building with a bunch of rocket m5's and shot the signal around the island then use nano bridges on the client side
<zombu2> it goes to a lil box on the house to a switch from there it goes to an ap and then also ethernet to the surrounding locations
<buZz> well very nice project
<zombu2> yup
<zombu2> can t wait for the a80 board though
<buZz> same
<buZz> i really need a faster device
<buZz> with more ram
<buZz> and shitton storage
<buZz> hope it will have >2gb ram and sata
<zombu2> there s one witha quad core on it but lacks sata
<buZz> yeah and its not allwinner
<zombu2> i oredered that and the cubieboard3
<zombu2> it s a cortex a9
<zombu2> so i thnk it s allwinner
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<buZz> its not
<buZz> its a rockchip
<zombu2> eh thats aright
<zombu2> man i wish there was a hackerspace down here in florida
<buZz> eh, i think there are several in florida
<zombu2> yeah a gazillion miles away haha
<buZz> http://hackerspaces.org/ lists all of them
<zombu2> yeah far away
<buZz> one of my unfinished projects; http://i.imgur.com/S0uWxPE.png
<buZz> cloning that tshirt ;)
<buZz> i really like the design
<zombu2> hahaha
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<buZz> the design is already better but cant find a more recent snapshot
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<zombu2> pretty funny
<buZz> i like it :)
<zombu2> i just hope i can get all the deps installed on the cubietruck to make the unifi controller work
<buZz> i give you a good chance :)
<buZz> debian-arm is really getting more and more mature daily
<zombu2> yup
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* rooted-arm L@@ks at BuZz
<rooted-arm> :P
<buZz> ;)
<rooted-arm> all the mirrors in ubuntu one stoped , is there other hosts ?
<buZz> see ML
<buZz> someone said the exact same about 2 days ago
<rooted-arm> got alot of cubie's cant let that stock get into my ass that easily
* rooted-arm feel's sad - (http://www.kw.gs/cubiestock.jpg)
<Deskwizard> hey buZz
<buZz> that picture is the cubietech one
<buZz> oh perhaps not
<rooted-arm> wa ?
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<surv> по русски тут можно?
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<n3glv_McSunday> ?
<surv> cubietruck (rev.b) - не прошивается (пробовал LiveSuit, Феникс), не бутится (в том числе с SD), при включении горит только индикатор питания
<n3glv_McSunday> surv: english please
<surv> where to find RTC-battery on board cubietruck (rev.b)?
<n3glv_McSunday> not sure. I do see a jack for Li-on battery
<n3glv_McSunday> not sure which version my board is
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<surv> cubietruck (rev.b) - not flash (tried LiveSuit, Phoenix) is not loaded (including SD), when you turn on the power indicator lights only. What methods can recover?
<n3glv_McSunday> surv: use the tools to flash the nvram
<surv> please give a link to these tools
<n3glv_McSunday> livesuit can do this
<n3glv_McSunday> run as sudo
<surv> I tried to
<n3glv_McSunday> linux?
<surv> yes
<n3glv_McSunday> the button press is hard to get right
<n3glv_McSunday> when it asks format yes/no you are good
<surv> Livesuit alltime reporе: "wait for Fes Device Timeout"
<surv> now i try again flashed image ct-nand-v1.01-20140214.img
<n3glv_McSunday> I think I tried that one, is that android?
<surv> yes
<n3glv_McSunday> the android one worked for me, livesuit 64bit in xubuntu 14
<surv> I use too Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
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<n3glv_McSunday> oh surv, remove any sd when trying to boot from nv
<n3glv_McSunday> oh surv, remove any sd when trying to boot from nv
<n3glv_McSunday> does blue LED sit and blink?
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<surv> i try without SD
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<n3glv> I have found that with SD in, boot fails
<n3glv> nv boot
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<surv> blue light blinked once, when plugin otg
<fossxplorer> n3glv, hi
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<surv> it seems that my cube dead
<surv> i cry (
<n3glv> surv: the loading bar only go about 20% ?
<n3glv> on screen
<n3glv> I had that and livesuit fixed
<n3glv> twice
<surv> n3glv: not at all
<surv> not go
<fossxplorer> n3glv, you like the nick?
<n3glv> lol, yeah
<fossxplorer> cool :
<fossxplorer> :)
<n3glv> surv: you on vga or hdmi?
<n3glv> make sure you check both
<surv> vga
<n3glv> or sell it to me for $5
<n3glv> ;-p
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<surv> it not connect to monitor
<n3glv> also seen it act funny, send out of range sizes etc
<n3glv> anyway, heading home, be on in a while
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<buZz> zombu2: ^^^
<buZz> ;)
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<buZz> also added some general photos to the wikientry @ https://nurdspace.nl/Knitmachine
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<n3glv> rehi buZz
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<avi_m> Hi, i have CubieBoard2 powered with 5V 2A power supply, when i connect SATA 2.5" HDD to it i get the following errors when writing data to disk - http://pastebin.com/QF6yrGyF
<avi_m> I checked the disk on PC and it works great. any idea what is wrong ?
<n3glv> hi
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<popolon> Does someone know if awtool (opensource tool for flashing A10 liveimage) works with A20 cubieboard2/Truck ?
<popolon> I managed to use livesuite 3.06, but the process is tricky and this insert closed src binary in my loved opensource kernel
<popolon> I means awutils
<popolon> not awtool, sorry
<popolon> Please note that this is a work in progress, and not usable yet! <= in the Readme... oK, :)
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<popolon> livesuite detect and repair bad sectors in nand
<popolon> Nice ASCII art with livesuit
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<popolon> tomboy65, https://ubuntuone.com/3Z95tYxkcpvKq5oc2Zdpka ubuntuone is no more available since 1st june
<popolon> (as said in the linked messg, the service is shutted down by ubuntu
<popolon> So this page : http://docs.cubieboard.org/downloads
<popolon> should redirect only to dl.cubieboard.org for all livesuite versions
<popolon> as this is the case for linux64bit version now
<tomboy65> tomboy65: so what?
<tomboy65> popolon: so what?
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<n3glv> suggestion
<n3glv> popolon:
<n3glv> the dl page is not very clear
<n3glv> software should maybe firmware or images
<popolon> livesuite
<n3glv> I am very new
<popolon> there is need to change the url to get livesuite in the doc then
<popolon> oops
<n3glv> and navigation to the proper file is hard
<popolon> heare
<popolon> tomboy65, ping
<popolon> here
<popolon> I already mentionned in fact :)
<popolon> I suppose that's not an open wiki but only managed by cubieboard
<tomboy65> eh?
<popolon> cubietech
<n3glv> example
<tomboy65> why the taco are you highlighting me?
<n3glv> PhoenixCard only work for android a20 image
<n3glv> RUNS on android? or used to WRITE a20 images?
<popolon> you don't are tombot from cubietech ?
<tomboy65> nope
<popolon> don't know in fact who manage this wiki, I thought that was cubietech
<popolon> oh, ok, sorry then
<popolon> does someone here know how to contact them ?
<popolon> ok, I can register on their wordpress
<n3glv> that is to dd onto the sd and run?
<n3glv> s/run/boot
<popolon> n3glv, this is a nand image
<popolon> you need to flash it
<popolon> using phoenixsuite/livesuite
<popolon> teinting your kernel with binary blob during flash time
<popolon> follow strange process to boot the cubieboard in FEL mode
<popolon> and hope phoenix/live-suit will detect it the nice way for flashing it
<popolon> just managed to flash cubieez
<n3glv> that is the hold buttons thing?
<n3glv> and use livesuit?
<popolon> yes hold button, plug the usb, start and so one
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<n3glv> right
<popolon> I will write a little tuto as I didn't find it.
<n3glv> which is sd image
<popolon> nand != sd
<popolon> sd is sd card
<popolon> nand is soldered nand flash SSD
<popolon> not the same driver, not the same technology
<n3glv> yes I KNOW THAT
<n3glv> which IMAGE is for dd to sd?
<n3glv> say for linaro?
<n3glv> (these guys are not very clear on naming etc)
<popolon> there is "nand" in your filename isn't it ?
<n3glv> on SOME of them
<popolon> if there is wrote *nand* that's for nand
<n3glv> no kidding
<popolon> if tehre is wrote *sd* that's for sd
<n3glv> but some are not and are
<n3glv> and some have no 'nand' or 'sd' in name
<n3glv> and there is my point
<popolon> then read the doc for them
<popolon> I don't know every files released on the whole planet :)
<n3glv> and only way to do card is the long process?
<popolon> to do nand
<popolon> to do sd
<popolon> write your sd from your computer/tablet/anything you have to read/write SD card
<n3glv> vs just dd the img to the card like for raspberry
<popolon> if that's an img could be fine
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<n3glv> the long way=two step process to write each partition
<popolon> if that's a partition image (not whole sd image), should not work
<n3glv> again, no details on what the .img is for
<n3glv> often
<popolon> but generally img but not in all cases are for whole card
<n3glv> yeah, so I expected
<n3glv> and have not gotten them to work
<popolon> after that, you only have to plug the sd in your cubie
<popolon> and put it on
* zombu2 waves at n3glv
<popolon> better to have USB - TTL wire if you have no output
<n3glv> btw, if there is a sd with boot partition in, but bad, it never boots
<n3glv> zombu2: conference?
<zombu2> sure i sec lemme dial in
<popolon> do you have enough power to boot your os ?
<n3glv> yes
<popolon> how much ?
<n3glv> 2A
<n3glv> n3glv: is a radio ham
<n3glv> and electronics tech
<n3glv> not an idiot
<popolon> if you don't have HDD/SDD pluged on sata, this should be good enough
<zombu2> ^^ is a black forest ham
<n3glv> so
<n3glv> details on that? other than the two that are boot and root
<zombu2> is there a reason that has 2 parts??
<n3glv> can I _assume_ the other is full bootable img?
<n3glv> zombu2: bsd geeks?
<zombu2> dunno haha
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<popolon> bootfs is boot part rootfs is system part
<popolon> img shoud have both
<zombu2> so the img has both already in it?
<popolon> I believe I ve not enough power for ma cb
<popolon> :/
<zombu2> go make your own psu
<zombu2> i made a psu 48v-5v 10A
<popolon> nice
<popolon> added another 2A one
<zombu2> 12 bucks in parts
<popolon> I use a external hdd wire so have 2 usb ports for power
<popolon> this cubieez image is really unstable I believe in fact :(
<popolon> some errors at boot time
<popolon> ps ax crash
<popolon> but not the os
<popolon> able to do some top
<popolon> looks like a trojanized system :)
<popolon> crash when I try to apply security updates :(
<popolon> this is a kernel 3.4.61+ don't know it it is really stable, for nand
<n3glv> tried linaro xbmc img?
<popolon> could be more stable
<popolon> 3.4.79 kernel insteaad of 3.4.61+
<popolon> after git
<popolon> the last reference 3.4 version is the 3.4.90 if I'm not wrong
<popolon> yes
<popolon> looks better :)
<popolon> well shutdown is less good
<popolon> need to shutdown everything lot of thunderstorm / hail here.
<popolon> in a very old building
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<popolon> ok finished
<popolon> debieez seems far more stable :)
<popolon> there is lightdm (and I suppose lxde by default)
<popolon> lxterminal is here yes
<buZz> hi n3glv :)