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Hello everyone. My ruby program is going into an infinite loop, not stopping when I get all the answers right. Why? The code is here:
http://pastebin.com/nPzbPjCv .
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Even if I answer all the questions right it does not trigger the win message.
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morning
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Darn Amazon Linux
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offers tcl, but not tk
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yorickpeterse: why do you need tk?
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Some dumb library we have to use requires it
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even when you run it in non GUI mode
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researchers etc
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matti >
Oink yorickpeterse
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yorickpeterse >
matti: ヽ(´ー`)ノ
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<
yorickpeterse >
hmpf not that one
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<
yorickpeterse >
matti: (っ´ω`)っ
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<
matti >
yorickpeterse: (★^O^★)
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<
yorickpeterse >
( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)
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<
maloik >
my unicde is failing hard here
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maloik >
breaking my irssi
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matti >
maloik: Oh deary dear.
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<
yorickpeterse >
maloik: ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ
11:35
* matti
hands maloik a biscuit
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<
yorickpeterse >
honestly if your IRC client doesn't do Unicode in 2014 you might want a better client
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<
yorickpeterse >
gotta get on that emoji hypetrain
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maloik >
oh it probably can I just can't be bothered to look up how
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matti >
Or your terminal, or fonts, or or or.
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matti >
maloik: You must fix it.
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<
yorickpeterse >
Hm, there are some really questionable emoji in this plugin
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maloik >
One day...
*looks into the distance*
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matti >
maloik: You must be able to experience the sheer joy when someone pastes UTF poo.
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<
yorickpeterse >
There's even an 9/11 one in here ...
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<
yorickpeterse >
(*・_・)ノ ︵✈ ▌▌
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yorickpeterse >
I wonder what weirdo decided that was a good idea
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yorickpeterse >
ok last one -===☆ THE MORE YOU KNOW
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maloik >
okay I think I found how
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maloik >
if I don't return, call 911
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matti >
matled: I rather call Ghostbusters!
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matti >
matled: yorickpeterse could use some exorcism ;]
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matti >
yorickpeterse: #hugs
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maloik >
yorickpeterse: poo me!
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maloik >
well that surely failed
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maloik >
back to work then :)
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yorickpeterse >
matti: ъ(`ー´ლ) hnnngggghhhh.
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matti >
What is it?
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yorickpeterse >
apparently somebody pooping
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yorickpeterse >
I don't have the Unicode pile of poop saved
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yorickpeterse >
apparently my font doesn't support it either
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<
yorickpeterse >
DANG IT
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workmad3 >
such a shame...
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workmad3: :>
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maloik >
workmad3's poop is visible
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yorickpeterse >
workmad3: heh
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yorickpeterse >
oh neat, so we have this thing "X" which processes text in different languages
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yorickpeterse >
For French, German, Italian and Spanish it can do its thing in miliseconds
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yorickpeterse >
for Dutch it suddenly takes 6 seconds for 130 words
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<
yorickpeterse >
webscale
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yorickpeterse >
errr so for English
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yorickpeterse >
Dutch "only" takes 2 seconds
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<
TTilus >
yorickpeterse: easy 4u don't mean easy for your computer ;)
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TTilus >
yorickpeterse: unpredictable/surprising performance characteristics suck big time
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<
yorickpeterse >
This is not just "some difference"
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<
yorickpeterse >
This has "bugs" written all over it
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<
yorickpeterse >
or an incorrect training set
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<
TTilus >
it has slight "convoluted regex" smell in it
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<
yorickpeterse >
There's no regex being used for this
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yorickpeterse >
You can't use regular expressions for parsing word dependencies of a language
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<
TTilus >
the fact you can't has never prevented ppl from trying ;)
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<
TTilus >
but ok, smells buggy, yes
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: sounds like backtracing
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: quite possible
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<
yorickpeterse >
However, considering the same code is used for the different languages this strikes me as odd at the least
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<
yorickpeterse >
But I'll have to confirm that with the actual author
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<
yorickpeterse >
(before I smack this in a paper and say "shit's slow yo")
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<
whitequark >
not odd at all, different languages have different (formal) grammars
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<
whitequark >
some may require backtracking, some not
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<
whitequark >
also you could probably fix it with more memoization
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<
yorickpeterse >
hahahahahaha
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<
yorickpeterse >
Ok so context:
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<
yorickpeterse >
This code is written by non-expert devs
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yorickpeterse >
If I start about memoization/caching they'll just look at me funny
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<
whitequark >
send a PR
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yorickpeterse >
Trust me on this one, I've dealt with these people for almost 2 years now
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yorickpeterse >
Once this opens up I can actually show it
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yorickpeterse >
(and it will make some sense, I hope)
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whitequark >
2 years and they don't understand memoization?
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<
whitequark >
if those people are hired as developers, they should be un-hired
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yorickpeterse >
They are researchers
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yorickpeterse >
and we don't hire them so I have little say in that
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yorickpeterse >
They know their theories, algorithms, etc. But I'm pretty sure this industry would be a lot more advanced if they learned more than "Java boilerplate in 30 minutes"
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<
whitequark >
like, they can understand some convoluted statistical shit or something, but not memoization?
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<
yorickpeterse >
actually the Java devs are all right in this case
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<
yorickpeterse >
Their stuff works and is pretty fast
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<
whitequark >
now
*that* strikes me as odd
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<
whitequark >
anyway. gotta go
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<
yorickpeterse >
oh they'll probably understand the concept, just not the tech side of things
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with global vars everywheree
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yorickpeterse >
* everywhere
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<
whitequark >
well. yes. that would be typical.
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yorickpeterse >
The NLP world is an odd world
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maloik >
there's going to be an NLP talk at arrrrcamp, quite looking forward to that
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yorickpeterse >
heh, probably involves Apache OpenNLP
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yorickpeterse >
that's apparently the rage in NPL biz
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maloik >
yea it mentioned it
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roelof >
Is there a command which I can calculate this 3! which is 1 * 2 * 3 ?
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havenwood >
>> 3.downto(1).inject(:*)
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roelof >
another question : is Arch or Chakra linux better for ruby development ?
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roelof >
havenwood: thanks
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jhass >
roelof: better than...?
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roelof: hem, I don't know Chakra but Arch does always seem to have a nice up-to-date Ruby package
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roelof >
oke, and is aptana a good ide ??
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roelof >
Im nit a fan of vim or emacs ?
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havenwood >
roelof: Rubymine seems to be a well-liked IDE.
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havenwood >
I don't know how it compares to Aptana though.
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havenwood >
roelof: You might also consider a text editor like Atom, LightTable, Sublime or TextMate if you want to avoid vim/emacs.
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Senjai >
roelof: You don't want to avoid vim
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Senjai >
roelof: It's worth the learning curve
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jhass >
and there it goes...
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Senjai >
jhass: Kaploosh
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roelof >
havenwoord : and start things like rspec from prompt instead of from a menu
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jhass >
roelof: yep
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roelof: indeed, or plugins to automate
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roelof >
oke, I will look at atom or Sublime
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roelof >
as far as I know there a none linux distro which have packaged light table
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yorickpeterse >
roelof: just use something like gedit while you're learning
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yorickpeterse >
it's literally just a text editor with syntax highlighting
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yorickpeterse >
and it doesn't require Node.js, 2GB of RAM for the JVM or any of that
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I have 4G so memory is no problem
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yorickpeterse >
It was a joke about how 2GB for any program is insane
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yorickpeterse >
unless it's something like an intensive video game
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havenwood >
yorickpeterse: editing Ruby file in LightTable: 48MB memory
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havenwood: 27MB in a gvim session that has been running since the 11th
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yorickpeterse >
take that
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less, no doubt, but not orders of magnitude :P
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it does seem like Atom support for GNU/Linux is getting there fast though
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yorickpeterse >
I like parts of the UI (e.g. the sidebar is pretty slick), but fuck running a web browser to edit a text file
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I also wonder if it can open large files (e.g. 2GB of logs)
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yorickpeterse >
^ vim can't
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not unless you disable syntax highlighting at least
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yorickpeterse: "Atom can only handle files < 2MB, for now."
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havenwood >
not even close
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srsly
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that's a joke right?
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yorickpeterse: With a 2.1MB file, LightTable chokes, Atom raises non-joke error ^, TextMate and Sublime open it.
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yorickpeterse >
hahaha
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yorickpeterse >
._.
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clearly what you need to do is start 100 Atom processes so you can scale linearly across multiple cores
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yorickpeterse >
that's how you scale node.js
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oh hey, atom.io is also down
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probably not running node.js
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whitequark: jruby will have refinements for 9k release
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yorickpeterse: Or you can gzip your logs and segregate them by day or by hour etc instead of having one massive log file
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yorickpeterse >
Senjai: or you can completely miss the point of my example
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yorickpeterse: You can edit large files in vim if you want to
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yorickpeterse >
I could've said "a 4GB SQL dump" and it wouldn't have made a difference
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roelof >
everyone thanks for the help and have a good evening
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roelof: toodles
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I have no issues opening multi gb sql dumps
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Senjai >
with plugins disabled
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anyone know if there's any tricks to find all dependencies with c extensions? I'm getting random segfaults in production and wanted to update those
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was preferring something I could script considering there's about 170 dependencies in this project
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You can use the ruby gem API to get the gem specification of your dependencies and check that s.extensions is not empty
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Mon_Ouie: do you know of any way I could get that in a console, like from bundler? or is there a RubyGems api for accessing all loaded gems
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NemesisD: Gem.loaded_specs.values.select { |s| s.exceptions }.map { |s| s.full_name }
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I'm sure that must exist (that's how it can check for conflicts), I just don't know it off the top of my head
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Well there you go
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drbrain >
↑ from rails console
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drbrain: thanks!
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drbrain: got an undefined method exceptions for Gem::Specification:0x157e7ec bundler-1.6.0>
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oops, extensions
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drbrain: thanks!
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i can't really make heads or tails of this segfault. i wonder if there's a better approach than just updating all these dependencies indiscriminantly
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Rich_Morin: is path_ttl UTF-8?
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line 13: File.open(path_ttl, 'r:utf-8') do |lines|
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Can I then remove all of the "u" modifiers from the REs?
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use those when you use the magic encoding comment to pick a non-UTF-8 encoding for your source file
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Any suggestions on a clean way to switch between task and multitask in a Rakefile?
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For example, force "task" for debugging...
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Rich_Morin: -j 1 should force all multitasks to work as tasks
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tnx - I was thinking in terms of defining a my_task method or somesuch.
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