#ruby-lang on 2014-06-08 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-05-09 04:45 apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

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02:58 <jhuang> Is there any way to run Ruby code in isolation with eval() (or some other method)? (i.e. any global variables assigned to in that code are not visible in the calling program)

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03:40 <duper> jhuang: like $SAFE ?

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03:46 <Guest27789> I cannot figure out how to reproduce this, but my `Encoding.default_external` is coming in as “US-ASCII”, and it’s breaking my program, because when it reads the string (which should be UTF-8), it has “invalid multibyte char (US-ASCII)”. The input is passed on stdin from a node process running in Github’s Atom editor, it was extracted from Atom’s DOM. I attempted to force it to UTF8

03:46 <Guest27789> (https://github.com/JoshCheek/atom-seeing-is-believing/blob/d271293ee62deb3f7748ce2fa5343b1efc4a50de/lib/seeing-is-believing.coffee#L91) but that didn’t work.

03:49 <Guest27789> Is there a way to force it to read as utf8? Or any idea what I should look at on the other end that’s causing it to be interpreted this way? I ran through a through z in -K<char>, and could not figure out how to get it to that encoding, I wrote a node program to try and reproduce it, wrote a ruby program that uses capture3 with stdin_data that is US-ASCII, I cannot reproduce this issue, and have no real idea what is wrong or how to fix i

03:49 <jhuang> duper: $SAFE is too restrictive; I want the called code to be able to do things like define methods, etc. but those methods should only be visible in that code, not to the caller.

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03:50 <ari-_-e> jhuang: how would you want to extract information from the script being run?

03:52 <jhuang> ari-_-e: Possibly through some specific mutable context/state specified during invocation (in the same vein the binding is specified).

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03:54 <jhuang> Or perhaps even replace binding with some kind of environment context, which contains both input and output objects - execute(code_string, environment) and the code string would see only those objects provided in environment (and if any of those are mutable, and the called code modifies them, after execution those modified objects are available in the caller )

03:56 <jhuang> The pathological implementation of this would be equivalent to forking to child process, with shared memory for the shared state (but otherwise the forked child gets its own address space / environment) - albeit a more heavyweight implementation than is necessary, i.e. a ruby interpreter could provide this more efficiently for a managed language like ruby than incurring process creation cost.

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04:28 <darix> jhass|off: th

04:28 <darix> uhm

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10:38 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> help

10:39 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> hello

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10:40 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> hello

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10:40 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> who is on?

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10:45 <jhass> syst3m-m3ltd0wn: just ask you question and have patience

10:46 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> this is my first time on irc

10:46 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> so i was little bit confused when everyone stood silent!

10:46 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> anyways thank you for your information jhass

10:47 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> :)

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10:48 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> can anyone tell me some of the good reading resources on RoR?

10:48 <jhass> better ask #rubyonrails for rails topics ;)

10:49 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> thank you

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10:49 <jhass> though https://guides.rubyonrails.org make a decent introduction in case you've seen a programming language before

10:49 <jhass> oh, http:// only it seems

10:49 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> hehe

10:50 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> got that!

10:50 <syst3m-m3ltd0wn> :)

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11:00 <t4nk972> Hello, What's the recommended way to fill a drop down in the view? The data is contained in a different model than the corresping to the controller associated with the view.

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11:04 <t4nk972> My attempt was to solve the issue through f.collection_select, but I do not know what the right parameters are.

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11:16 <jhass> t4nk972: #rubyonrails

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16:29 <robin850> Hello! Excuse me if I'm missing something but is it possible to have options like --parse-<arg> with OptionParser please ? I tried to pass --parse-[EXTENSION] to the `on` method but when I run the file, I get an "invalid option" message.

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16:51 <whitequark> robin850: no

16:51 <whitequark> and it's a bad idea anyway. use --parse extension

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16:52 <robin850> whitequark: Ok thanks! Yep I agree that --parse extension is nicer, but this was for the sake of backward compatibility

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23:22 <kablurg> hey anybody know why an environment variable prints fine in IRB but returns nil when run in a program?

23:22 <ari-_-e> which environment variable?

23:23 <kablurg> COLUMNS

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23:23 <kablurg> it's the terminal width

23:23 <ari-_-e> right

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23:23 <ari-_-e> I don't think LINES/COLUMNS are real environment variables - they're special case things

23:24 <ari-_-e> IRB might special case them also

23:24 <ari-_-e> hmm

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23:24 <kablurg> ok i can try a different ruby method for getting terminal size then

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23:25 <ari-_-e> doesn't look like irb special cases them

23:28 <apeiros> iirc it's readline which provides them

23:28 <ari-_-e> ahh probably

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23:29 <ari-_-e> I know they're available in bash

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23:29 <ari-_-e> I guess that's just because of readline

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