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<zenspider> need a new name for Struct rewrite
<centrx> SUPER STRUCT!!!!
<centrx> How about:
<centrx> Strux
<banister> Record ;)
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<zenspider> I like record... that's good
<zenspider> I'm also chucking the string name arg
<zenspider> fuck that
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* centrx thought strux was an awesome name
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<mus1cb0x> for what?
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<Nilium> My most recent project is named scolex. That's a pretty awesome name.
<mus1cb0x> what'll it do?
<Nilium> Harbor all my weird junk ideas until I move them into libsnow-common.
<zenspider> ok. got all the tests passing except the egregious ones I ripped out (recursive structs?). time to rip out the enumerable stuff
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<centrx> >> assert name == "strux"
<eval-in_> centrx => undefined local variable or method `name' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/148516)
<zenspider> damn I love autotest
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<centrx> joevandyk, I don't think it should. Maybe it is trying to create a directory that it considers essential that should be there from basic installation?
<joevandyk> centrx: it looks like it's trying to build the RedCloth gem. wtf
<joevandyk> i'm using ruby 2.1.1 and rubygems 2.2.2
<joevandyk> why would starting irb want to build gems?
<centrx> weird
<centrx> I have not seen that before
<joevandyk> i'm trying 'sudo irb' and it's busy building a bunch of gems
<joevandyk> https://github.com/bundler/bundler/issues/2847 says something about "building gems at runtime"? why?
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<centrx> joevandyk, but that shouldn't affect irb right?
<centrx> joevandyk, you aren't running bundle exec irb
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<joevandyk> no idea
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<joevandyk> running 'sudo irb' fixed it. :(
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<joevandyk> though i haven't recently upgraded. i'm in the middle of updating a bunch of programs to rails 4
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<ljarvis> moin
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<apeiros> moin ljarvis
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<Brainix> Hi, guys. I’m looking for a way to uniquely identify a calling method from a called method. __callee__ doesn’t quite capture it because there could be two methods named the same thing. Any ideas?
<apeiros> Brainix: what ruby version?
<Brainix> apeiros: 2.1.1
<yorickpeterse> oh hey, 2.1.2 has been released
<apeiros> Kernel#caller_locations might help
<yorickpeterse> and they don't mention their heap bloat crap in the actual news article
<Brainix> apeiros: Googling. Thank you.
<yorickpeterse> It's in the changelog though it seems
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<apeiros> Brainix: uh, I'd use ri
<Brainix> apeiros: Haha. Googling ri. ;-) Thanks again.
<apeiros> though there's still a chance of two methods having been evaled, same name and neither line nor file given
* Brainix puts on his n00b hat.
<apeiros> Brainix: comes with ruby. `ri Kernel#caller_locations`
<apeiros> you may need to install rubys documentation (with rvm: rvm docs generate)
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<ljarvis> >> caller_locations(1, 1)
<eval-in_> ljarvis => [] (https://eval.in/148640)
<whitequark> copycats?
<ljarvis> no idea
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<yorickpeterse> just report/block him
<ljarvis> i did, 3 days ago
<yorickpeterse> huh
<yorickpeterse> Should they then not be able to submit PRs/issues?
<ljarvis> you'd think
<yorickpeterse> I'm intrigued by his change of writing style too
<ljarvis> how so?
<yorickpeterse> he went from "ordinary English" (from what I can remember) to "Dumb as a brick English"
<ljarvis> its the durgs
<ljarvis> bongtyping
<yorickpeterse> https://help.github.com/articles/blocking-a-user seems it's bugged
<yorickpeterse> Might be worth contacting GH about that
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<ljarvis> hmm maybe I didn't block him, i reported him
<ljarvis> it still gives me the option
<yorickpeterse> I guess this is the first time I'm seeing a man going mad
<yorickpeterse> besides myself 21 years ago
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<Nilium> Hasn't he been doing this for nearly 24 hours now?
<yorickpeterse> Longer
<yorickpeterse> Seems it started 2-3 weeks ago
<Nilium> Well, I meant he's been doing this consistently for 24 hours
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<Nilium> Like, no breaks.
<yorickpeterse> oh right
<ljarvis> who needs breaks when you have teh minerals
<yorickpeterse> I would not be surprised if he doesn't have a new job yet
<yorickpeterse> which means he'll get booted out of the country soon
<ljarvis> yep
<Nilium> Well, his behavior on GitHub probably won't help..
<yorickpeterse> Pretty sure that's why he's using a new nick and re-wrote all the Git history
<ljarvis> he's been using that new nick before he went awol
<yorickpeterse> oh?
<ljarvis> ya quite a while, he's changed his nick like 3-4 times in the last year or so though
<yorickpeterse> Hm, he's probably just tripping balls but I would not be surprised if he has a case of schizophrenai
<yorickpeterse> damn it
<yorickpeterse> Schizophrenia
<yorickpeterse> Impossible to type
<ljarvis> i thought that was the female form
<yorickpeterse> It's a gendered term?
<yorickpeterse> wat
<ljarvis> no i was kiding
<yorickpeterse> oh
<ljarvis> kidding
<yorickpeterse> derp
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<yorickpeterse> Considering I blasted him last time he was in #pry I'm surprised he hasn't tried to troll me yet
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<ljarvis> i dunno why im being picked out
<Nilium> He probably destroyed his ability to retain things in long-term memory so he doesn't even remember.
<yorickpeterse> heh
<Nilium> So weird seeing someone I remember having a normal conversation with on IRC do this on GitHub.
<Nilium> He's kind of like a crappy _why so far.
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<yorickpeterse> Having read up on _why he was nuts too, but at least not harmful
<yorickpeterse> and useful
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<yorickpeterse> But yeah, Rob seems to've gone full-pothead
<Nilium> It seemed more like he had a meltdown 'cause he acted like programming was a competition
<Nilium> And just nuked himself off the 'net as a result
<yorickpeterse> Well, before he went MIA he was pretty vicious about licensing and other management things going on at Pry
<yorickpeterse> He had a rather...strong opinion
<whitequark> hm?
<whitequark> licensing/
<yorickpeterse> Yeah he became a big fan of unlicensing stuff
<yorickpeterse> Claimed there's no such thing as ownership if I remember correctly
<yorickpeterse> I'd have to dig up the logs somewhere before I ran out of #pry
<whitequark> sounds nuts already
<ljarvis> maybe someone stole his stuff?
<yorickpeterse> No, ugh hold on
<Nilium> I'm a big fan of unlicensing things, but I only particularly care about affecting my own projects with my insanity.
<Nilium> Or, if not unlicensing, at least making things public domain or nearly.
<whitequark> "unlicensing" things means no one can use them because of legal crap
<Nilium> Though the reason for that is less insane and more pragmatic.
<yorickpeterse> raw log, no tl;dr for ta
<yorickpeterse> * ya
<whitequark> PD is not a solution as well; you have to use CC-0 if you want PD
<Nilium> Public domain works if I choose to enforce nothing.
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<Nilium> It's very easy to do nothing.
<apeiros> ljarvis: lulwot? (re johnny5) what's his probem? :D
<apeiros> *problem, even
<Nilium> It's r0bgleeson and the problems are myriad.
<ljarvis> apeiros: it's rob gleeson and he's lost his shit, basically. He's opening PRs for all sorts of projects, including 3 of mine, and 4 of my company/co-workers, plus lots of other people (rails, pry, coffeescript)
<whitequark> Nilium: it doesn't; by default, if I produce a derivative work off your code, it's a crime.
<surrounder> wasn't there something with public domain and the EU? think I read something about that
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<apeiros> rob gleeson - rings a bell
<Nilium> whitequark: I'm not aware of anyone trying to prove that's a crime
<Nilium> Sounds very hand-wavey to me.
<whitequark> Nilium: @jcolgan tried to use unlicensed gems with his book and it was a Huge Problem
<ljarvis> apeiros: ex pry team member, built stuff like ichannel, xpool, always been a decent guy
<whitequark> Nilium: I mean, sure, if you want to create problems for your users, proceed with "unlicensing"
<Nilium> Did it reach a court?
<whitequark> but it ignores the whole reason behind the existence of licenses
<whitequark> Nilium: as I understand, a publisher would veto it
<Nilium> Public domain is sort of a license in and of itself
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<Nilium> That's not important. What's important is if what you've said is tested in court.
<Nilium> If it's not, it's hand-wavey speculation and fear of nothing.
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<whitequark> well, as I've said--if you want to create problems out of nothing, go on.
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<workmad3> Nilium: there's a difference between you doing nothing and you putting something into the public domain though...
<Nilium> And as I've pointed out, public domain is a license on its own
<Nilium> Since as far as I know you can't actually make something public domain
<workmad3> Nilium: doing nothing == you've got copyright (automatic) and have issued no licences, so in effect no one is allowed to do anything with your stuff
<whitequark> ^ what workmad3 says
<Nilium> The best I can do is say "this is public domain" because I just don't care what anyone does with it.
<surrounder> isn't that why wtfpl was invented ?
<whitequark> WTFPL is not a real license either
<surrounder> why not ?
<whitequark> Nilium: replace "public domain" with "CC0" and you're fine.
<Nilium> I don't think the people using the WTFPL or public domain care what is and isn't a real license.
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<whitequark> I completely disagree, there is a lot of widely used code that was very purposefully placed into PD
<workmad3> Nilium: traditionally, public domain is the body of works where copyright has expired, iirc...
<whitequark> iirc, NaCl (libsodium) is one example
<Nilium> The problems you have with public domain and the wtfpl are down to whether or not you believe one legal dept.'s claims
<whitequark> Nilium: the *whole discussion* around licenses revolves around whether you believe one legal dept.'s claims
<workmad3> then there are irrevocable, 'public-domain-esque' licences, like CC0
<whitequark> you are equally free to just say "fuck licenses I'll do whatever I want with any code I see", and you will most likely get away with it, too
<Nilium> I'll stick with just saying stuff is public domain because I see no reason to not
<Nilium> If someone's legal department has an issue with that, too bad, but I don't really care about that situation
<whitequark> Nilium: see http://creativecommons.org/about/cc0, it explains why not to.
<workmad3> Nilium: why not just slap a CC0 licence on it (change your wording from 'this is in the public domain' to 'this is under the CC0 licence' )
<Nilium> Though I do like the Boost license. That one's nice too.
<whitequark> CC0 wasn't created because some lawyer had nothing else to do, it solves a problem
<workmad3> Nilium: which changes it from dubious legalities regarding licencing to firm footing :)
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<Nilium> So rather than saying "this is public domain" you want me to say "this is cc0" and direct them to a bunch of legalese that's hard to understand when "this is public domain" is simple and to the point?
<workmad3> Nilium: yes... because 'this is public domain' is *not* simple and to the point, because it doesn't actually have any legal standing and doesn't put stuff in the public domain
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<Nilium> It's very simple and to the point: it expresses my intent with respect to the thing.
<workmad3> Nilium: right... but it doesn't achieve your intent
<workmad3> Nilium: while CC0 does
<Nilium> That depends on your point of view.
<Nilium> I find it achieves my intent extremely well and that you are all excessively paranoid
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<whitequark> well, I'm saying that the HBO ever producing GoT means I have to watch it. their intent is pretty definite
<whitequark> ergo, I can just go and torrent it
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<Nilium> You should probably re-read what you just said because I can't parse it
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<workmad3> Nilium: stating 'this is public domain' has no legal standing... so if you go crazy in 5 years time and decide to re-licence everything so that anyone who has ever used your stuff needs to pay you $10,000,000, anyone who has done so is now liable for $10,000,000
<Nilium> If you think stating a thing is public domain has no legal standing then why do you believe linking to an HTML page hosted on some other domain (cc.org) has legal standing?
<workmad3> Nilium: because copyright law recognises licencing, it doesn't recognise you saying 'this is public domain'
<Nilium> What if the thing being linked to changes in the interim?
<Nilium> Does that mean the license changes?
<Nilium> Can you prove the license didn't change?
<whitequark> (that's why you usually have a LICENSE.txt in the repo that you yourself control)
<workmad3> Nilium: it changes the nature of the battle from me being liable to you having to demonstrate that you didn't ever release the work I'm using under CC0
<Nilium> COPYING.
<Nilium> LICENSE.txt is for chumps and Boost.
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<Nilium> I like the idea of you being liable more.
<Nilium> Seems like a position favorable to me.
<workmad3> Nilium: namely, it changes the risk from 'I'm completely exposed' to 'I'm going to be fine unless someone rewrites the entire internet'
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<Nilium> Either way, I'll keep using PD or just sticking to BSD/zlib/MIT/Boost licenses
* whitequark uses MIT as a slapstick license
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<workmad3> Nilium: I tend to go for BSD or MIT on code tbh :)
<Nilium> I'd prefer to never touch the creative commons.
<Nilium> Most of my stuff is BSD two-clause because it's my lazy license.
<Nilium> Also because I think most people tend to understand the BSD license best.
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<whitequark> true
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<workmad3> Nilium: yeah, I prefer understandable licences... CC licences are rather more complex, but that's generally because it takes quite a bit of legalese to remove your moral rights and I quite like my moral rights tbh... I much prefer a simple licence that says 'Hey, I wrote this, feel free to do whatever you want with it. Also, I don't guarantee it will work exactly as you want it, so use at your own risk'
* apeiros licenses under BSD 2 clause with "please ask the author if you need a different license"
<Nilium> apeiros: I have something like that in my READMEs, though not the license text itself.
<apeiros> I think the only other license I'd give for free would be MIT, though :)
<apeiros> Nilium: yeah, it's in the readme too
<apeiros> the license text consists only of the license itself
<Nilium> "ruby-glfw3 is licensed under a simplified BSD license because it seems the most reasonable. If there's a problem with that, let me know." ⇐ e.g.
<ljarvis> I license everything under MIT because I have no idea what I'm doing
<workmad3> ljarvis: also reasonable :)
<Nilium> I license things under the GPLv3 when I feel like being a dick.
<apeiros> ljarvis: afaik MIT & BSD are mostly about the same
<ljarvis> yeah I thought as much
<Nilium> zlib, MIT, and BSD (2-clause, anyway; the third clause is kind of weird and useless) are all more or less functionally the same
<Nilium> I think the Apache license 2.0 is also similar but with more legalese.
<workmad3> BSDs extra clauses are basically about saying 'If you use this in a product, then advertise your product you have to say you've used our stuff but can't say that we think your product is awesome without us consenting'
<Nilium> When the hell did it become 4am
<apeiros> 9h11min ago?
<workmad3> Nilium: generally, about 1hr after 3am...
<Nilium> workmad3: Which seems like libel laws probably cover that already
<workmad3> Nilium: they probably do in most countries :)
<apeiros> one of the big issues about licensing etc. is the diffs from country to country
<Nilium> 9h11min it's a sign never forget
<apeiros> and of course that not everybody is a lawyer
<Nilium> Hence the "contact me if it's a problem" thing
<apeiros> yupp
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<whitequark> ljarvis: @ljarvis!
<ljarvis> whitequark: wat
<Nilium> I think I used the MPL at one point but I'll be damned if that license makes any sense half the time
<whitequark> ljarvis: irssi's way of indicating that you're an op is @
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<ljarvis> oh right yeah
<workmad3> isn't that most IRC client's way of indicating op-ness?
<ljarvis> ya
<workmad3> 'hey, you're an op, here's an at-hat for your handle'
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis is part of the IRC gestapo
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<andrewvos> How do I get the splat stuff correct for overriding puts?
<andrewvos> Like: def puts(*args); puts(args); end
<andrewvos> That's just gonna pass an array to puts, right?
<andrewvos> How do I get correct arity?
<workmad3> andrewvos: 'def puts(*args); puts(*args); end
<andrewvos> workmad3: Ahh thanks
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<Nilium> Well, I now have Mario 64 music stuck in my head, time to sleep
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<apeiros> Nilium: want a link to an acapella version of super metroid theme song? :)
<workmad3> apeiros: link!
<workmad3> apeiros: or I'll torment you with awful, teenage pop-wannabe links on youtube :P
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<xcesariox> apeiros: yo!\
<xcesariox> apeiros: i have a question, i send to you via query.
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<apeiros> xcesariox: sorry, I don't help in the query. that's consulting and costs money ;-)
<apeiros> please ask in the channel
<xcesariox> lol okay i ask here.
<xcesariox> apeiros: i will ask you here.
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: I use MongoDB, please advise
* yorickpeterse is hunting down EC2 ghosts
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: switch to pg, protip™
<yorickpeterse> yeah yeah we're planning the big Escape from MongoDB
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: now pay me a bazillion dollars for that protip™
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<banister> ljarvis how's it gaan
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<ljarvis> banister: it's good, you?
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<banister> ljarvis have you talked to rob at all?
<ljarvis> banister: nope, you?
<banister> ljarvis no
<banister> just looking at his activity on gh
<banister> spooky
<ljarvis> heh
<ljarvis> yeah
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<apeiros> xcesariox: I assume your question is no longer relevant? I'm off now for a while
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<xcesariox> apeiros: yup, its okay.
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<ddv> why is everyone linking that guys github
<Mon_Ouie> Because people know him as he used to be active here and to not act like this
<workmad3> ddv: because he's doing insane commits...
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<ddv> ok
<ljarvis> Mon_Ouie: you're not as active here lately either, how's it going?
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: seens it
<Mon_Ouie> I'm fine, exams coming up. I answer questions every now and then on #ruby, that just happens less often here
<yorickpeterse> I'm getting increasingly more worried
<ljarvis> Mon_Ouie: heh, true
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: worried about what?
<yorickpeterse> rob
<ljarvis> I'd be worried when he stops
<yorickpeterse> That too
<ljarvis> I don't really know enough to be able to help him
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<yorickpeterse> well, from my own experiences you can't really help somebody if they can't help themselves
<yorickpeterse> At least not when they're on the verge of insanity
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<momomomomo> who is johnny5?
<ddv> some robot
<momomomomo> irc nick?
<yorickpeterse> momomomomo: r0bgleeson, former #pry contributor
<momomomomo> oh I see, thanks yorickpeterse
<momomomomo> ah don't you love the second when everyone comes to work and the wifi gets bogged down :/
<apeiros> momomomomo: change the password *eg*
<momomomomo> apeiros: That'd be IT :P
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<momomomomo> how's the framework coming apeiros
<momomomomo> is it th eone that r0b guy mentions? 'lotus' ?
<apeiros> momomomomo: no
<apeiros> I call it "jacob"
<momomomomo> neato
<apeiros> and I don't think he has seen it
<apeiros> since atm it only exists on my laptop and as a private github repo with 2 ppl having access ;-)
<ljarvis> ooo 2
<ljarvis> how does one get on that list
<momomomomo> apeiros: nice, i'll keep an eye out for the demo app
<momomomomo> Fffffffffff 15.6kb/s apt-get
<momomomomo> brb making coffee
<apeiros> momomomomo: yeah, I'm pondering on when to add volunteers. I don't want to do it too early because it's not even alpha software yet.
<yorickpeterse> *ANOTHER* web framework?
<yorickpeterse> omg
<yorickpeterse> wait, that came out more dramatic than intended
<DefV> not dramatic enough
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<DefV> _WAT_! *ANOTHER* web framework?
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<yorickpeterse> can't get more dramatic
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<apeiros> but it's not a webframework!
<apeiros> it's a webAPPframework! *drumroll*
<workmad3> hehehe
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<apeiros> also, the web is dead, so it's actually really an intertubeappframework, short ITAF
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<ljarvis> sounds like it'll scale
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<apeiros> it's roflolscale
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<banister> yorickpeterse you tried this stuff? www.happy-caps.nl
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<yorickpeterse> the fuck is that
<yorickpeterse> I don't do drugs, so no
<surrounder> poor yorickpeterse
<banister> yorickpeterse steve jobs said microsoft would have been a better company if gates took acid ;)
<surrounder> no alcohol or caffeine either ?
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<ericwood> I'm tripping balls right now
<ljarvis> i think rob is on trip-e
<ljarvis> "Become one with universe and take a ride on the psychedelic wave"
<banister> ljarvis i took that last night, it's actually pretty good
<banister> it was kinda like your first time smoking weed, you just grin at everything and find everything hilarious and interesting
<ljarvis> sounds like every time i smoke weed
<surrounder> hehe
<banister> lucky :)
<banister> i only got that effect the first 20-30 times i smoked
<surrounder> ages ago ;)
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<yorickpeterse> surrounder: nop
<yorickpeterse> I drink tea and juice, that's about it
<surrounder> wow
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<yorickpeterse> Not every Dutch person is a crack-ridden addict yo
<prognosticatorz> coffee?
<ljarvis> crack-coffee
<surrounder> yorickpeterse: most people around me are ;)
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<yorickpeterse> Stop surrounding yourself with druggies then
<surrounder> that would mean quiting my job
<ljarvis> less druggies, more toad in the holes
<surrounder> boss and manager are caffeine addicts
<maloik> I think bubble and squeek would make a great name for a kind of crack
<maloik> squeek. squeek. what a funny word
<ljarvis> bubble and sniff
<surrounder> lol
<maloik> alright it's time for some champagne apparently
<ljarvis> wat
<maloik> "cava"
<surrounder> hour 'till beer-o-clock here
<ljarvis> cava does not count
<maloik> celebrations are in order, boss got a kid
<maloik> after that its beer o clock
<maloik> cu later folks
<maloik> enjoy the weekend
<surrounder> hf maloik
<ljarvis> have fun, don't pull a rob
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<yorickpeterse> I don't really drink beer either
<ljarvis> aren't you the life of the party
<yorickpeterse> actually
<yorickpeterse> I am
<apeiros> it's week-end. everybody should pull a r0b
<ljarvis> o ok
<ljarvis> good
<yorickpeterse> I get the party started
<surrounder> yorickpeterse: weren't you debating getting a car? your friends must love you then!
<yorickpeterse> surrounder: No
<ljarvis> apeiros: never go full r0b
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<ljarvis> I have a car, my friends dont love me
<apeiros> ljarvis: if you go r0b far enough, you'll wrap around and everything is fine
<ljarvis> apeiros: oh, so r0b needs to go more r0b?
<ljarvis> makes sense
<surrounder> heh
<apeiros> the more r0b you go, the more sense this will make. promise!
* apeiros only does alcohol wrt drugs, tho
<ljarvis> me too generally
<ericwood> smoke alcohol erryday
<ljarvis> smoke it into the veinnsss
<surrounder> alcohol and weed here
<surrounder> tried a lot of other drugs though
<ericwood> drink weed, smoke alcohol erryday
<surrounder> glad I have those experiences
<yorickpeterse> Man this channel turned /r/trees rather quickly
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<ljarvis> better than /r/spacedicks like it is usually
<banister> yorickpeterse not everyone who takes drugs is a drug abuser, some people just do it once or twice a month and don't let it take over their lives
<yorickpeterse> banister: No, clearly everybody that takes drugs abuses it
<yorickpeterse> Jesus of course I fucking know that
<banister> yorickpeterse you seem to talk that way :)
<yorickpeterse> because clearly I am always super serious in here
<banister> okies
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<surrounder> super cereal!
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<benlovell> drugs are bad mmm'kay
<cout> in general I think drugs are bad
<cout> (and I include prescription meds in there)
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<banister> surrounder what is a belastingdienst
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<yorickpeterse> tax agency
<surrounder> ^
<yorickpeterse> Learn Dutch you slacker
<cout> I say that because there's a disconnect between what the consumer wants and what the manufacturer wants
<banister> yorickpeterse no niet
<yorickpeterse> wat
<yorickpeterse> that means nothing
<banister> yorickpeterse gaat uit meneer
<ddfreyne> Im having an issue where non-ASCII characters are being converted into ? characters
<yorickpeterse> That doesn't really mean anything in particular either
<ddfreyne> Actual question marks (not the symbol-not-found question mark)
<ddfreyne> Any idea why?
<yorickpeterse> Unless you mean I have to go outside
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<banister> mag ik bestellen?
<yorickpeterse> banister: No offence, but your Dutch is pretty bad
<oddmunds> haha
<banister> :p
<ddfreyne> Flemish > Dutch
<oddmunds> Lojban > Flemish
<yorickpeterse> Flemish is a peasant language
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<cout> oddmunds: esperanto > lojban
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<oddmunds> pffft
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<cout> and quenya > *
<banister> yorickpeterse surrounder: can u pls tell me what this is asking of me: http://cl.ly/image/23432H271q0R
<ljarvis> ddfreyne: needs some context
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<surrounder> banister: think that's for your employer to arrange ?
<banister> surrounder i have to sign something but i have no idea what the boxes are asking me to tick
<surrounder> can't you go to employer with that ?
<banister> surrounder i'm employed by an american company, so no.. :)
<banister> surrounder i have a dutch payroll service though, but i don't interact with them directly
<banister> the american company just sent me it telling me i had to sig it
<banister> sign
<yorickpeterse> Google translate it?
<banister> but i got no idea what it's asking me
<surrounder> it's about some discount on your taxes but I'm not sure what you should do there
<surrounder> I'm not that good with taxes anyhow
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<yorickpeterse> banister: you'll want to find some agency to help you sort this shit out
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<ericwood> >> ARGV.size
<eval-in_> ericwood => 0 (https://eval.in/148778)
<ericwood> hmmm, you'd think that'd be a larger number given the number of arguments we all have
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<ljarvis> hah
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<ljarvis> witty witty ericwood
<yorickpeterse> oh snap
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<KAMI> Hi everyone
<KAMI> i need your help guys
<KAMI> i am facing a problem with oci8lib_191
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<imperator> please state the nature of the medical emergency
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<benlovell> press 1 for urgent or life threatening injury
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<imperator> KAMI, well? what's the issue?
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<ljarvis> benlovell: what if i have no fingers
<ljarvis> and that's the emergency
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<apeiros> ljarvis: you your head (aka your nose)!
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<apeiros> and: how did you dial the number in the first place? :D
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<imperator> welp, apparently oracle has claimed another victim
<imperator> so long kami, we barely knew ye
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<apeiros> haha
* apeiros is a survivor
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<KAMI> Sorry for the late
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<KAMI> the use is when i am trying to use oracle instant client in ruby (by metasploit) it's showing a message error like "oci8lib_191"
<KAMI> the issue is when i am trying to use oracle instant client in ruby (by metasploit) it's showing a message error like "oci8lib_191"
<KAMI> the issue is when i am trying to use oracle instant client in ruby (by metasploit) it's showing a message error like "cannot load such file oci8lib_191"
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<ljarvis> never apologise for a latte
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<chris2> Felipe Contreras is the new ilias :>
<apeiros> he got banned from #ruby this morning :)
<chris2> whats his nick?
<apeiros> felipec
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<chris2> good to know, thanks
<apeiros> yw
<chris2> he's very annoying on the git list too
<apeiros> fun thing is - I agree with a couple of his view points.
<chris2> yes, some of his git patches arent bad either
<apeiros> but he's really just an asshole. and I rarely say that about somebody.
<chris2> doenst make him less of an asshole
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* imperator learns what metasploit is today
<imperator> KAMI, what platform?
<chris2> got owned? :)
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<imperator> hm? no
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<apeiros> chris2: the thing he IMO confuses - LKML may very well be harsh and no-bullshit. that's not the same as "I'll be an asshole to everybody about everything"
<chris2> yes
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<imperator> wonder why metasploit wants oci8 - oracle backend? or to try to exploit oracle?
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<apeiros> imperator: probably
<apeiros> (the latter, I mean)
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<imperator> welp, guess it wasn't that urgent
<imperator> felipe's the dude that was arguing about strptime, right?
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<asahi> hello, I have a bunch of Time objects and I'm wondering if there's an easy way to group them by hour and minute
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<havenwood> >> [Time.new, Time.new, Time.new - 60 * 60].group_by &:hour
<eval-in_> havenwood => {19=>[2014-05-09 19:48:09 +0200, 2014-05-09 19:48:09 +0200], 18=>[2014-05-09 18:48:09 +0200]} (https://eval.in/148876)
<havenwood> asahi: Not sure quite what you mean though. Have an example of what the result would look like?
<asahi> havenwood: thanks. that will get me started.
<havenwood> asahi: No prob! :)
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<asahi> quick question - what type of operator is the &: ?
<loincloth> asahi: the operator is just '&'
<havenwood> asahi: the `&` is the to_proc, `:hour` is a Symbol
<asahi> ah got it. thanks!
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<havenwood> asahi: `&:hour` is 1.9 sugar here for `{ |i| i.hour }`
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<[spoiler]> havenwood, when I first saw &: (and I was newish to ruby; it was probably just after 1.9 was released) I thought it was some odd voodoo
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<centrx> Ruby has extracted Perl magic sigils with non-voodoo!
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<eam> ruby is growing an impressive collection of voodoo, I give it another two years before it surpasses perl
<banister> [spoiler] i still think of &: as odd voodoo
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<banister> it's weird shit
<[spoiler]> banister, hmm it is definitely odd, but idk. i think I'm used to it
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<eam> we were just discussing around the office the voodoo levels of stabby lambda syntax
<[spoiler]> hahaha
<banister> [spoiler] do u know how it works? it's kinda freaky even when you learn how it works :)
<eam> ruby has def(), lambda {}, and ->(). Perl just has sub() {} and sub {}
<[spoiler]> banister, that's why I thought it's voodoo :D
<eam> (and not even to mention stuff like Proc)
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<imperator> opposed it, outvoted
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<eam> I was pretty surprised that I couldn't just say my_lambda = def {} in ruby
<imperator> ruby is definitely suffering from feature creep imho
<eam> it's feature creep plus weird/clever syntax that gave perl the reputation it has
<imperator> eam, took 10 years just to get def to return a symbol
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<imperator> i think the stabby lambdas have largely been ignored by the community, though i admit i'm guessing somewhat
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<[spoiler]> imperator, I rarely use lambdas even
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<eam> I must be a weirdo
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<[spoiler]> I must admit that i like some, some of ruby's clever syntax
<[spoiler]> wotfok
<[spoiler]> -"some,"
<imperator> some some
<[spoiler]> LOL
<eam> well, I like most of perl's clever syntax too
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<yxhuvud> I certainly hope you don't like it all. Some is pretty wonky.
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<imperator> oof
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<[spoiler]> eam, hmm I never worked in perl much
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<yxhuvud> >> % foo .upcase
<eval-in_> yxhuvud => "FOO" (https://eval.in/148881)
<[spoiler]> Nah, id on't like all of it
* imperator sends eam a chunk of coal for christmas
<eam> [spoiler]: honestly, if you want to REALLY learn ruby, learn perl
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<[spoiler]> eam, I know perl, I learned it, but I never *really* used it
<[spoiler]> apart from toying about
<imperator> i used it
<[spoiler]> Soon after I learned Perl, I got into C and perl just sort of drifted away
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<imperator> don't use it
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<[spoiler]> then I got into Ruby and Ruby is <3
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<imperator> i wonder if rust will be the Next Big Thing
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<Burgestrand> >> %:):
<eval-in_> Burgestrand => ")" (https://eval.in/148885)
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<Burgestrand> <3
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<eam> I still use perl a lot for anything systems oriented
<eam> much better mapping of high/text parsing oriented language to posix interfaces
<eam> and it has all the higher order stuff that ruby's only gotten recently
<imperator> such as?
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<ljarvis> apeiros> and: how did you dial the number in the first place? :D
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<ljarvis> there is no outsmarting you
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<jwing> Hi folks.. i'm extremely new to ruby and was handed a script to work with. It uses Savon to connect to a WSDL URL. It's working. However, I'd like to get the script to quietly ignore that the destination server is using a self signed certificate. How can I tell Savon to ignore or simply not report it?
<jwing> message: at depth 2 - 19: self signed certificate in certificate chain
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<apeiros> hmmmmm
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<apeiros> I just noticed that the way I'm designing jacob will make it very easy to have "remote models", which would make it trivial to build a microservice architecture
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<xybre> Remote models?
<apeiros> models which are not backed by a database but RESTful URL endpoint
<yorickpeterse> hail hydra
<xybre> Ah, nice.
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<epitron> imperator: the only time i've used stabby lambdas is when i was greating a hash of string to proc mappings...
<epitron> *generating
<epitron> *creating
<epitron> *crenereating
<apeiros> there are a couple of ways to build microservice architectures. one of them (or as part of a strategy) is to use remote models
<apeiros> (no idea whether that pattern has an actual name)
<apeiros> epitron: genering
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<pipework> drbrain: Hey. Did you ever implement any security in that drb game you wrote? TLS mutual auth, drb over tls?
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<yorickpeterse> avdi: ping
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: pong
<yorickpeterse> avdi: so in Rake you can define file tasks, either using rule() or file(). Do you know if it's possible to re-trigger a rule() task based on another file
<yorickpeterse> As in
<yorickpeterse> Say you have `rule 'a' => 'b' { ... }`
<yorickpeterse> But you also have file c
<yorickpeterse> and if file c changes then the rule block should be triggered
<yorickpeterse> but c doesn't actually have to be turned into anything, it's a static file
* yorickpeterse hopes that makes sense
<yorickpeterse> basically I'm compiling file X, which includes file Y. If Y changes then X should be re-compiled
<yorickpeterse> I can of course check mtimes myself but blegh
<avdi> Can you clarify why c isn't in the list of Dependencies?
<yorickpeterse> Rake doesn't have to do anything with it compilation wise
<yorickpeterse> Right, lemme show the actual thing
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<yorickpeterse> which gets compiled, all is good
<yorickpeterse> If that file changes I want to recompile lexer.rl
<yorickpeterse> base_lexer.rl itself however doesn't have to be compiled in any way, hence it's not in a rule() block
* imperator wonders if rake-compiler would help
<yorickpeterse> already using that
<imperator> oic
<yorickpeterse> The answer is no since rake-compiler doesn't come in to the picture until a little bit later
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: gimme a few minutes, I'm not at my pc
<yorickpeterse> no problem
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: you don't have to have a build rule to declare a dependency
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: and a file declared as a dependency doesn't have to be used in a build rule
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<yorickpeterse> hmm
<avdi> yorickpeterse: just add the included file to the list of files the target depends on
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<yorickpeterse> That doesn't seem to do anything though. As in, changing the included file doesn't trigger a recompilation
<yorickpeterse> since in this case lexer.rl hasn't changed
<yorickpeterse> hmm
<avdi> That doesn't sound right
<avdi> Oh but this is a rule
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<yorickpeterse> yeah, lemme sketch out what I'd normally hack in
<avdi> Why is it a rule, not a file?
<avdi> Actually, could you gist up a minimal example?
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<yorickpeterse> There can be multiple .rl files in theory
<yorickpeterse> sure, working on that atm
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<ljarvis> apeiros: why jacob?
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<yorickpeterse> avdi: https://gist.github.com/YorickPeterse/bad40b3d2ad772f76100 so the `:check` task is that I can hack in myself
<yorickpeterse> But I'm curious if Rake can do something like that for me
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<yorickpeterse> I have my doubts about that, never seen it before
<yorickpeterse> but then again it's Rake and it's full of surprises
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<avdi> It can. I need to finish up some work but then I'll tackle it.
<avdi> This reminds me of how much I left out of my videos :)
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah you totally didn't cover every corner of Rake :P
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: https://github.com/johnny5-/choo_choo :/
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: yeah I have honestly no idea why he's going after you lot
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<ljarvis> me either but it's getting a bit out of hand
<yorickpeterse> I'm also intrigued by his interest in rewriting Git histories all the time
<workmad3> isn't that sort of the definition of 'crazy'?
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<ljarvis> github aren't doing anything about it
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<ljarvis> surprised rob isn't on here
<wallerdev> what are we talking about
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: I'm keeping an eye on it in case he starts doing anything funny with the Rbx repos (he still has commit bit)
<yorickpeterse> I doubt that will happen though, it seems he's out for some form of "revenge" against certain people
<ljarvis> certain software probably
<ljarvis> but yeah certain people like me
<ljarvis> for some reason
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<yorickpeterse> well, he's Irish I believe
<yorickpeterse> and you're British
<wallerdev> whos out for revenge
<yorickpeterse> wallerdev: see link above
<wallerdev> i cant
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<ljarvis> basically view the user activity
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<wallerdev> no idae whats going on lol
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: I can only find 3 refs to you from r0b on IRC
<yorickpeterse> That's since 2012
<yorickpeterse> http://hastebin.com/raw/erutijital so at least he didn't throw a fit on IRC that I know of
<yorickpeterse> internet detective Yorick watches you all
<ljarvis> we worked together for a bit, and spoke in private mostly
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<yorickpeterse> Perhaps he booked a ticket via loco2 and the train was delayed
<ljarvis> haha
* ljarvis looks through the db
<ljarvis> nope
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<yorickpeterse> Perhaps he's running markov chains
<yorickpeterse> while high
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: here's one way
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: https://github.com/generalassembly/comfortable-mexican-sofa/pull/1 dang it, even messed with his employer it seems
<ljarvis> wow
<yorickpeterse> avdi: how's that different from adding the file directly to a task's dependencies?
<wallerdev> o.o
<avdi> yorickpeterse: see the comment
<yorickpeterse> avdi: e.g. I can slap ext/ragel/base_lexer.rl in here https://github.com/YorickPeterse/oga/blob/master/task/lexer.rake#L28-L31
<yorickpeterse> but that wouldn't do anything
<avdi> yorickpeterse: I'm missing something
<yorickpeterse> ok so I have lexer.rl, which includes base_lexer.rl
<avdi> yorickpeterse: BTW the rule was backwards in the version you gave me
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<yorickpeterse> base_lexer.rl is completely left out of Rake since it doesn't have to be compiled in any shape or form
<yorickpeterse> However, if base_lexer.rl changes I want to force recompiling of lexer.rl
<avdi> right...
<yorickpeterse> it's a bit of an odd case
<avdi> which is what this does
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<yorickpeterse> hm, lemme try it
<ljarvis> banister: ping
<yorickpeterse> avdi: hm, doesn't do a thang
<avdi> yorickpeterse: if I touch base.rl then re-run rake, it re-creates lexer.c
<yorickpeterse> huh
<yorickpeterse> oh derp
<avdi> yorickpeterse: I simplified some paths and stuff
<yorickpeterse> I forgot to actually add the block as a dep
* yorickpeterse slaps yorickpeterse around with a copy of "The Pragmatic Trout"
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<yorickpeterse> avdi: you're my hero
<ljarvis> banister: do you have an email address for rob?
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: rob@flowof.info is what he used in Pry for Git
<ljarvis> ta
<ta> ljarvis?
<yorickpeterse> hahaha
<ljarvis> oh man
<yorickpeterse> hahaha
<avdi> yorickpeterse: there is also some fun stuff you can do with the `import` command if you want to get fancy
<ljarvis> likelyhood of that happening
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<ta> :)
<avdi> yorickpeterse: but you may not need that yet :-)
<ljarvis> ta: I meant 'ta' as in thanks, sorry :)
<ljarvis> but you knew that
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<ta> ljarvis: yes, np :)
<ljarvis> ok i emailed rob
<yorickpeterse> totes twittered that
<yorickpeterse> avdi: do tell
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: you know what this reminds me of, that TempleOS guy
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<yorickpeterse> if that rings a bell
<apeiros> ljarvis: the name?
<ljarvis> apeiros: as in, why call it that?
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: it doesn't
<apeiros> ljarvis: yeah, that was what I intended to ask, whether you meant that :)
<ljarvis> yep :)
<apeiros> ljarvis: the name stems from the precursor project, where it was a contraction
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<apeiros> it no longer applies, but I stuck with the name :)
<ljarvis> ah :)
<apeiros> parts of the old project still remain in it, so it doesn't feel wrong
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: basically this schizophrenic/super racist dude who wrote some operating system claiming it was inspired by God or something like that
<yorickpeterse> Total nutter, raves on HN whenever there's a thread about OS' and such
<ljarvis> hah
<yorickpeterse> The dude is nuts
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<wmoxam> too bad he's ill
<wmoxam> it takes some talent to create what he's created
<yorickpeterse> not entirely safe for work language wise
<yorickpeterse> wmoxam: the two often go hand in hand, sadly
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<benlovell> "God doesn't really like Led
<wmoxam> :/
<benlovell> Zeppelin"
<benlovell> quote fail.
<yorickpeterse> if I ever go crazy, somebody promise me to archive cat.yorickpeterse.com
<yorickpeterse> (oh the irony)
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: here's something to chew on: https://gist.github.com/avdi/d6f1ae832a53cdb2c3b8
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: the one thing that's missing is recursive scanning
<avdi> yorickpeterse: the upshot is that that Rakefile will automatically maintain a dynamically-generated subsidiary Rakefile that spells out all the dependencies between .rl files
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<avdi> This is a bit more efficient than scanning for dependencies every time a rule is executed. And it has the bonus that you can peek at the generated deps file
<|jemc|> do any of the ruby parsers out there track comments in their ast?
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<yorickpeterse> avdi: hmmm
<|jemc|> (other than current YARD and RDoc parsers)
<yorickpeterse> |jemc|: parser does
<|jemc|> yorickpeterse: oh, it does? I missed that
* |jemc| looks
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: oh and you'll probably want to tweak the include-finding regex to be more robust
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<yorickpeterse> |jemc|: you have to call `parse_with_comments` instead of parse on your parser instance (heh)
<yorickpeterse> that gives back the AST and a Hash
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<yorickpeterse> * with the comments
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<ljarvis> dat explicit return
<yorickpeterse> I pref explicit returns
<|jemc|> yorickpeterse: yep, there it is with comment associator :D
* |jemc| is trying to figure out how to get YARD patched to work with various 2.0 and 2.1 syntax changes
<zenspider> |jemc|: ruby_parser does for class/module/defn/defs nodes
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<eam> sigh: strace -eexecve -f bundle exec ruby -e'require "ffi"'
<eam> ("/usr/bin/ruby", ["/usr/bin/ruby", "-erequire", "\"ffi\""], [/* 37 vars */]) = 0
<eam> note the screwed-up arg parsing
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<eam> somewhere bundle exec is improperly tokenizing its args
<zenspider> avdi: why?
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<zenspider> doesn't rake already support deps files?
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<zenspider> lib/rake/loaders/makefile.rb
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<avdi> zenspider: I'm not sure what you're asking. Yes, it supports deps files. That seemed out of scope of the answer to me.
<avdi> zenspider: I don't know if makedeps supports the file format that yorickpeterse is using
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<avdi> zenspider: s/makedeps/makedepend/
<avdi> zenspider: (I don't know a lot about makedepend)
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<avdi> zenspider: I considered an answer that shows building a makefile for import instead of a rakefile, since it's a simpler format to generate. But that would have meant also explaining the makefile loader.
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