ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim Weirich || Ruby 2.1.0; 2.0.0-p353; 1.9.3-p484: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<centrx>
rubyday_, It is sometimes helpful to look at other people's source code and sure, to make improvements to it
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<rubyday_>
centrx thank you so much for being helpful. I appreciate it. I will look at their code and make sure I understand before I start making any requests for pulls.
<centrx>
rubyday_, But if you are a true beginner, it may not be easy to make contributions that will be accepted into an established project
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<centrx>
You are welcome
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<karamazov424>
Is it best to install ruby versions with RVM as opposed to brew?
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<centrx>
karamazov424, RVM is usually for if you need multiple installations of Ruby or sets of gems
<karamazov424>
centrx: I'm just starting out - had fiddled with it awhile ago and installed RVM because of an app I was working with. Not sure if I should just clean everything out and start new with a brew install.
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<pipework>
karamazov424: I use chruby and ruby-install for multiple user rubies for development.
<karamazov424>
pipework: cool - thanks for the input
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<pipework>
karamazov424: But I use homebrew'd ruby as a system ruby over the one distributed with OS X.
<norder>
karamazov424: rvm is pretty useful, even when you're starting out. I would remove all rubies and gemsets from rvm, update rvm, and go from there (it's pretty fresh)
<pipework>
But ruby-install is super simple in all aspects, and chruby is as well. Pick your poison.
<karamazov424>
norder: Awesome, I'll look into doing that.
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<karamazov424>
I think I'm a bit addicted to ruby - it's cutting into my work time.
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<norder>
karamazov424: that's why i got a job cutting ruby :P
<karamazov424>
norder: That's my plan! I'm done dealing making wordpress sites and dealing with front end design (graphics and what not). Ready to move into something that my brain likes
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<lisberoia>
ctape works, although it is impredictable when it works or not
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<lisberoia>
the command ./tape-read.rb > somefile.xx starts the application, which sometimes won't work, and if the file on tape lasts 15 minutes you want to know from the begining that it is not working
<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<lisberoia>
can any ruby expert tweak the code to display "loading started" when the ... loading starts? thanks
<mrgrieves>
darix: maybe a bit of backgorund will help. On the build machine (rhel 6.4) I have installed a number of dev libraries. All I did at config time was the prefix. Once everything got built I packaged the whole thing in a tarball and moved it to another server on the same rhel release
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<darix>
not exactly the same machine
<mrgrieves>
that's true
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<mrgrieves>
let me try the ldd command ...
<darix>
e.g. if you check the rpm changelog of the build machine you might see something like reenabling ellyptic curve
<darix>
that update is probably missing on your runtime host
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<badeball>
lisberoia: you can always write to stderr to show something to the use while you're piping stdout to a file.
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<mrgrieves>
darix: one of the things I'm trying to do here is to run as non-root. Unfortunately I don't have root access on the runtime host
<darix>
mrgrieves: so ask the root to install the updates?
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<lisberoia>
thanks badeball; how can I do that in ruby?
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<darix>
lisberoia: $STDERR.puts
<lisberoia>
alright
<mrgrieves>
darix: Unfortunately they won't help :-(
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<darix>
mrgrieves: 1. dont do that. you could in theory also have all your runtime libs in your app specific path but that is a maintenance nightmare
<darix>
mrgrieves: 2. i even question why you cant use the system ruby for running a puppet master
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<mrgrieves>
darix: it's the client what I'm trying to run. Unfortunately the system ruby is wayyyy out of date
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<darix>
mrgrieves: and?
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<darix>
mrgrieves: what version do you have as system ruby?
<darix>
not something like 1.8.7?
<mrgrieves>
hehehe exactly that
<darix>
that runs puppet just fine
<darix>
even 3.3
<darix>
versionitis is bad for you
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<ljarvis>
_rgn: :)
<mrgrieves>
darix: puppet runs but we have custom code that does not run ok on ruby 1.8.7
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<darix>
mrgrieves: your own code?
<darix>
i am sure you can make it work on 1.8 too
<darix>
anyway
<darix>
you know what the problem is and how to fix it.
<ljarvis>
versionitis is good for you when talking about versions that are no longer maintained
<mrgrieves>
before having to mantain the custom code to work with 2 diffrent versions of ruby I believe it's better to have all servers on the same ruby version
<darix>
ljarvis: 1.8.7 is still maintained?
<ljarvis>
darix: no it's not?
<jhass>
not oficially
<mrgrieves>
oh yes we can make it work but we want to avoid the mantainence overhead that brings
<darix>
ljarvis: and i would bet that the distro packaged ruby will get more maintainance than his oneshot installed 2nd ruby
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<ljarvis>
I guess security maintenance is enough for most
<jhass>
so it's better to spend effort now to make code compatible and spend effort in a year to get a newer ruby than to spend effort now to get a newer ruby?
<yorickpeterse>
something something monday morning somebody broke the build
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<ljarvis>
yorickpeterse: is that somebody == yorick?
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<yorickpeterse>
Not this time
<mrgrieves>
is there an easy way to pull all the runtime libs in the app path as part of the ruby install?
<yorickpeterse>
I usually break builds on Friday afternoon before beer 'o clock
<darix>
mrgrieves: you only need to updated the old openssl on your runtime machine
<ljarvis>
ah yes, me too
<darix>
it lacks a symbol that your build time machine has
<darix>
you give me headaches
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<mrgrieves>
darix: mate, it's not my intention to go against what you are saying or anything. It's just the circumstances for this particular scenario
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<mrgrieves>
darix: but thanks for the help. Will try downgrade the openssl package on the build machine and see if that works
<darix>
mrgrieves: in times like this you dont want an openssl without EC support.
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<darix>
redhat was nice enough to reenable it after years of people maintaining their own openssl on rhel
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<unsymbol>
moin
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<yorickpeterse>
god damn it, I forgot I was supposed to write two talks this weekend
<yorickpeterse>
blegh
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<yorickpeterse>
lol?
<yorickpeterse>
Though I'm getting curious about what's behind the secret door
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<yorickpeterse>
ok that points to porno
<yorickpeterse>
what a surprise
<yorickpeterse>
oh heh, Dutch IP too
<yorickpeterse>
lawl
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<karamazov424>
I just did a clean install of Ruby on my mac running Mavericks...for some reason IRB doesn't show a depth level. Anyone ever experience this?
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<maloik_>
what do you mean with depth level ?
<maloik_>
also, did you install a new system ruby ?
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<ljarvis>
uh, clicking that was a terrible idea
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<yorickpeterse>
bro, do you even curl?
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<yorickpeterse>
rule #1 of IRC club: don't open random URLs that are very very clearly spam in a regular browser
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<maloik_>
there's an IRC club?
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<maloik_>
why was I not aware
<maloik_>
:(
<yorickpeterse>
Yes
<yorickpeterse>
It's right next to the key signing club
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<maloik>
why would anyone sign a key
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<maloik>
if you put it into the lock the signature would rub right off
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<yorickpeterse>
at least that should be fixed in RVM master
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<maloik>
Any of you clever folks know of a way to make a view with tons of tiny d3.js graphs (like on http://cl.ly/image/2u1b2n0D3F3R) performant ?
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<maloik>
If there were just one I'd let d3 make an ajax call to our internal api to fetch the data, but that's not an option on a datagrid view with 50 of such rows
<yorickpeterse>
what do you want to make fast, data retrieval or rendering?
<maloik>
rendering
<yorickpeterse>
less graphs
<maloik>
I've considered storing svg data in the db or on disk, as it would change once per day for each of those rows... or making the view store all points in a data attribute on one of the elements but neither sound ideal
<yorickpeterse>
I haven't really used d3 that much but I've yet to come across a graphing solution in JS that isn't slow as hell
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<maloik>
well to be clear
<maloik>
by rendering I mean not making the user wait for 50 ajax calls to finish for each of the graphs
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<yorickpeterse>
The only option for that is either bundle the requests together, or not use Ajax at all
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<yorickpeterse>
or make them wait while showing some kind of spinner
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<yorickpeterse>
man, this workout thing during work is working out (ha!) pretty well so far
<yorickpeterse>
"How to become a loud jacked up brogrammer with yorickpeterse"
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<semaperepelitsa>
maloik: I embed data into a script tag, like window.data = <%= data.to_json.html_safe %>, it works fine
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<lianj_>
semaperepelitsa: 'fine'
<yorickpeterse>
That works until the JSON gets big and it takes ages to request the page
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<lianj_>
or until data is user input
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<semaperepelitsa>
I guess my usecase is narrow. You could request all data in a single JSON, and use Cache-Control to speed up subsequent requests. If that's slow too, the only thing left is optimizing the amount of data per chart.
<naquad>
can i somehow make byebug enter post mortem mode while i'm in it?
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<ljarvis>
apeiros: weird
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<crazyyossarian>
Has anyone had any experience making Net HTTP requests against ipv6 addresses? If I build the request with the 'bracket, [2607:f8b0:4010:801::1009]' syntax for the host URI parser works correctly but TCPSocket doesnt like it. If I exclude the bracket syntax URI parser can't parse the host. Ex: https://gist.github.com/sidereel-dev/9198463
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<jhass>
crazyyossarian: hm, tried including the protocol? "http://[...]"
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<wnd>
I just tried "http://[2001:708:310:54::99]"; SocketError: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known
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<crazyyossarian>
jhass: unless I am mistaken Net::HTTP.new takes the host as an argument
<crazyyossarian>
adding http to the host gives an invalid URI, URI::InvalidURIError: bad URI(is not URI?): http://http://[2607:f8b0:4010:801::1009]:80 (not the double http)
<crazyyossarian>
s/not/note
<ljarvis>
that's correct
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<wnd>
Net::HTTP.get(URI('http://[2001:708:310:54::99]/debian')) works for me
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<crazyyossarian>
wnd: that works for me as well. I will have to dig through the net/http source to figure out what the different is between the .get vs building your own with HTTP and Request objects
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<jaimef>
is there a way to omit whole blocks of code in erb with if/else?
<xybre>
Yes
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