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wnd: cleaner still with openuri
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URI.parse(...).read
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jtoy >
with this code: if (webpage.to_html rescue "") =~ /part/i how can I get this error: ArgumentError: invalid byte sequence in UTF-8
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jtoy >
shouldnt the rescue just skip that line?
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ruby-lang966 >
Hi, I have a question on celluloid
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pipework >
ask in #celluloid
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ruby-lang966 >
ok, thanks
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neilc >
[[2]].flat_map {|m| m}.to_a != [[2]].flat_map.to_a
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neilc >
anyone know the rationale for that?
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centrx >
>> [[2]].flat_map {|m| m}.to_a
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centrx >
>> [[2]].flat_map.to_a
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centrx >
Interesting
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centrx >
neilc, Almost seems like the Enumerator version of #flat_map does not flatten
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neilc >
centrx: right
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[[1,2], [3,4]] to [1,3] and [2,4]?
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apeiros >
_rgn: a,b = *[[1,2], [3,4]]
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apeiros >
yes, transpose
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"Why's poignant guide to Ruby" is so odd.
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epitron >
"Why's discombobulated guide to Ruby"
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epitron: Right on. I'm only finishing it because it's considered a "classic"
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apeiros >
"My cromulent guide to Ruby"
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epitron >
karamazo_: it was pretty novel when it came out because it was probably the least serious programming book ever made
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epitron >
programming is normally pretty dull
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pipework >
Especially when you're epitron.
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karamazo_ >
epitron: Yeah - that orielly PHP book I read was horrific
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pipework >
I mean, go figure. With a nick like epitron, I'd suspect some clever black magic going on in his commits.
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karamazo_ >
Maybe I should move onto Pines "Learn to Program"
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ljarvis >
that's the best starting resource ever
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epitron >
i just read all the ruby stdlib api's :)
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epitron >
boring, but not as verbose as a book
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epitron >
also contains source code to most methods
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karamazo_ >
Awesome, it's settled. Sorry Why's.
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pipework >
If you've never programmed before, it's not bad.
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karamazo_ >
I have a basic understanding of programming via osmosis - I'm a recover wordpress dev
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karamazo_ >
*recovering
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i just accidentally made a cronjob that ran every minute instead of every hour
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epitron >
* */1 * * * <cmd>
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ljarvis >
fuck that reminds me
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epitron >
apparently */1 means * :)
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ljarvis >
I added a cronjob to a box a few weeks ago to run every minute to test something
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ljarvis >
forgot about it
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epitron >
the only reason i noticed this one was because the command outputted to STDERR, and spammed my mailbox
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probably would've run every minute for months without me noticing
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yorickpeterse >
morning
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pipework >
late night
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<
pipework >
Synchronize moondials!
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orchidrudra >
Getting parsing error while trying to parse an ISO8583 message using the ISO8583 gem, please help
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ljarvis >
orchidrudra: none of what you've just said is helpful
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yorickpeterse >
orchidrudra: start with explaining what problem exactly
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. a pastie of the error
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epitron >
it sounds like orchidrudra is trying to do credit card processing
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epitron >
<- clippytron
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yorickpeterse >
silly little RDS can't handle the pressure
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yorickpeterse >
(well now it can)
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ljarvis >
that's how my write iops look
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yorickpeterse >
meh
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yorickpeterse >
So yeah,
*apparently* it's not wise to run a dozen or so queries in a loop
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yorickpeterse >
for a few million iterations
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yorickpeterse >
per day
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yorickpeterse >
Other question, anybody seen nahi around lately?
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yorickpeterse >
No public activity on GH for 3 months :/
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yorickpeterse >
and there are a bunch of httpclient issues that are rather annoying
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GambitK >
what's this structure called in ruby and how could I manipulate it?
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jhass >
I guess the opening { is missing in your paste?
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GambitK >
I want to extract each member as a single variable with the name of the array as a variable name
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jhass >
it's a hash which values are hashes which values are arrays
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jhass >
and no, I don't think you want that
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GambitK >
those are parsed from an xml using xml_parser
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GambitK >
I want each value to be a single value, not nested like that
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jhass >
you can simply access it like whatever["xml_message"]["Audit_Type"].first #=> "4"
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GambitK >
I want to pass it as a json object with each field as its own
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jhass >
reassign one level if you want to save some typework: xml_message = whatever["xml_message"]; xml_message["Audit_type"].first
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GambitK >
like "Audity_Type"="4"
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jhass >
simply map it into another hash then: JSON.dump Hash[whatever["xml_message"].map {|k, v| [k, v.first]}]
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apeiros >
GambitK: x,y,z = hash.values_at("x","y","z")
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apeiros >
local variables aren't a hash. don't try to abuse it as one.
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yorickpeterse >
GambitK: your_input_value.each { |key, value| eval("#{key} = #{value}") }; # you can now access them as local variables
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* yorickpeterse
runs
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yorickpeterse >
>> {:number => 10}.each { |key, value| eval("#{key} = #{value}") }; number
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yorickpeterse >
errr
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yorickpeterse >
>> {:number => 10}.each { |key, value| eval("#{key} = #{value}", binding) }; number
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yorickpeterse >
wat
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yorickpeterse >
that was supposed to work
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GambitK >
I'm writing now to test it out
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GambitK >
i like jhass: idea because I don't know the exact name of each array
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GambitK >
since the original message can have different ones
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yorickpeterse >
also my answer was a joke
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yorickpeterse >
if you do that shit then, well, you're screwed
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yorickpeterse >
seriously, just access them as a Hash
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GambitK >
the thing is that I have to pass it to another "non ruby" tool that can't manipulate nested json
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GambitK >
so it has to be simple json
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yorickpeterse >
Then convert it?
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yorickpeterse >
That doesn't require you to shit local variables all over your own code base
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GambitK >
I just don't know how to convert it
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GambitK >
I'm not interested in manipulating the data, just convert it to simple json and forward it
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yorickpeterse >
You know Ruby right?
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yorickpeterse >
And you know the target JSON format?
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yorickpeterse >
Then it shouldn't be that difficult to convert it
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apeiros >
yorickpeterse: you can't create new local variables through eval
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apeiros >
the lvars have to exist. then you can change their value through eval.
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. if your input is {:foo => {:bar => 20}}
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apeiros >
GambitK: showing input and desired output would go a long way in getting help…
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yorickpeterse >
and the output should be {:bar => 20}
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yorickpeterse >
Then you'd just do `new_data = old_data[:foo]`
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yorickpeterse >
done
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yorickpeterse >
apeiros: grrrr
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apeiros >
GambitK: that's a general tip - don't ask for how to implement your solution, ask for how to solve the problem. gets better replies too.
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apeiros >
yorickpeterse: quoi?
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yorickpeterse >
re the locals
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yorickpeterse >
that would've been the best feature ever
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apeiros: youre right
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apeiros >
yorickpeterse: the reason is in "lvars are not a hash"
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_rgn >
how do I map array with `Shellwords.escape` without a block? like arr.map(&method(:Shellwords.escape))
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yorickpeterse >
You can't
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yorickpeterse >
something like that was proposed a while ago but not taken in
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apeiros >
_rgn: don't be clever. just use the plain normal block form already.
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manveru >
[2] pry(main)> %w[foo $bar 'yo'].map(&Shellwords.singleton_method(:escape))
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manveru >
=> ["foo", "\\$bar", "\\'yo\\'"]
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manveru >
that said, please don't use this without a good reason :)
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apeiros >
I think you can leave the singleton_ off, no?
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manveru >
i'm usually explicit and don't use #method
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yorickpeterse >
moat meta sugar
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yorickpeterse >
* moar
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GambitK >
apeiros: i tested the xmlsimple.xml_in function whith { 'ForceArray' => false } option and it doesn't return an array
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matti >
Ohai manveru
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<
yorickpeterse >
hai
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<
ljarvis >
im having a stupid day today
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<
yorickpeterse >
today?
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<
yorickpeterse >
wot
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ljarvis >
i wil fuk u up
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<
yorickpeterse >
Your language is why we have global warming
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<
ljarvis >
I'm actually relatively well spoken
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<
yorickpeterse >
I meant English in general
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<
ljarvis >
proper English?
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<
yorickpeterse >
Fine, Shavlish
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<
yorickpeterse >
errrr
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yorickpeterse >
Chavlish
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<
yorickpeterse >
can't even get it right
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ljarvis >
I'm sure most languages have a less-approachable dialect
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yorickpeterse >
Dutch slang basically sounds like a bunch of pre-historic cavemen trying to talk with their mouth full of rocks
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yorickpeterse >
(heh, pre-historic cavemen)
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<
ljarvis >
the best kind of cavemen
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<
ljarvis >
those hipster cave men just dont get it
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<
yorickpeterse >
"Sjoerie komuh dan ik sla je op je bollu kop" <- typical low IQ people
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yorickpeterse >
(it gets way worse)
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<
ljarvis >
that's worse than bubble and squeak
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yorickpeterse >
It's amazingly fun when some Dutch kid is swearing at you in Dutch over some video game
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yorickpeterse >
Especially when you push them over the edge
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cored >
the best conversation in the entire freenode server
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<
yorickpeterse >
you're welcome
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yorickpeterse >
I mean, the alternative is just a quiet channel, might as well use it
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ljarvis >
I think i'd prefer that
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yorickpeterse >
No you don't, you secretly enjoy this
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<
yorickpeterse >
...you dirty seppo
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gnufied >
I though ljarvis is English. it is injekt dude who was a seppo
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ljarvis >
gnufied: yeah, I got upgraded
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<
yorickpeterse >
ljarvis 2.0
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<
yorickpeterse >
now with more chav
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imperator >
howdy folks
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ddfreyne >
Anybod with Prawn experience here?
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<
ddfreyne >
(The PDF generator)
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imperator >
apparently ruby-toolbox.com is powered by a potato
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imperator >
ddfreyne, got a specific question? maybe i can take a look
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ddfreyne >
I have very in-depth questios :)
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ddfreyne >
More specifically, my spaces seem to be stripped out when I try to write text.
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centrx >
ddfreyne, Try #ruby much more activity there right now
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ddfreyne >
pdf.text "hello\n world" # prints as if there would be no spaces at all
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ddfreyne >
centrx: I am a hardcore #ruby-langer! I will not give up now!
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ddfreyne >
“Prawn strips all whitespace from the beginning and the end of strings” oh ffs.
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ddfreyne >
Intentionally?!
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imperator >
escape it maybe?
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ddfreyne >
Nope, no luck.
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ddfreyne >
Ah, Prawn::Text::NBSP.
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ddfreyne >
LaTeX is a pain to customise and XSLT-FO is XML hell, so here I am.
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vosloco >
Can someone point me in the right direction? I am trying to use the rest-client gem to authenticate to a server an just get this error: OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv2/v3 read server hello A: tlsv1 alert protocol version
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vosloco >
I can't find much online.
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vosloco >
is my request
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Meths >
Is the test.domain.com that you're trying actually resolving to the IP you think it should?
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vosloco >
I get the same error if I put the ip address in.
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ljarvis >
vosloco: did you try using net/http?
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Meths >
Does openssl s_client -connect test.domain.com:443 work from the same machine?
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ljarvis >
also, sigh at verify_none
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vosloco >
Meths: yes that command works
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vosloco >
ljarvis: yeah I have been working on that. rest-client just seem simpler.
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vosloco >
ljarvis: It is all internal so I am not worried about the verify_none for now
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vosloco >
plus it doesn't work with out the verify_none either.
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hackeron >
hey, is there a recommendation for a library for spinning up and managing around 100 processes? -- I tried god and bluepill but god just freezes with that many processes and bluepill, if you kill a bunch of processes, a new process gets the same PID as an already dead process and it thinks a process that died is still running :/
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Elico >
what was the ruby for windows?
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yorickpeterse >
Elico: "the ruby"?
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centrx >
Elico, Ruby Installer for Windows?
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yorickpeterse >
THE RUBY!
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yorickpeterse >
Genuine Ruby
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<
apeiros >
ruby, genuine edition
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apeiros >
ruby, genuine home edition
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<
apeiros >
and ruby, genuine pro business ultima edition
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apeiros >
the last one's priced at $yoursoul
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apeiros >
oh, should have been *ultimate
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<
centrx >
Ruby Management Studio
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<
apeiros >
Ruby 360°
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yorickpeterse >
Ruby Home Edition
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yorickpeterse >
Ruby Home Edition 64bit
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yorickpeterse >
GNU/Ruby
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yorickpeterse >
ok I'm done
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* apeiros
still waits for Rurd
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yorickpeterse >
hahaha
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yorickpeterse >
I get that reference!
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centrx >
"The Free Software Foundation is beginning work on a GNU operating system built on top of the Mach 3.0 microkernel." - Date: 6 May 91 22:15:22 GMT
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apeiros >
hey, hey now, given them just a century or two, and they'll surely finish!
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yorickpeterse >
pretty sure they'll finish before MRI ditches the GIL
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yorickpeterse >
(oh snap)
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centrx >
Does mruby have the GIL?
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apeiros >
not sure whether mruby has threads
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yorickpeterse >
Good question actually
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centrx >
Matz might be way ahead of us
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* centrx
is happy to wait patiently for updates from Japan
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yorickpeterse >
not supporting threading for embedded stuff seems like a pretty annoying thing
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yorickpeterse >
so yeah, don't run your next Rails app on mruby :P
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|jemc| >
yorickpeterse: speaking of not supporting embedded stuff: you should get the ball rolling with rubinius arm support with the other devs :P
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yorickpeterse >
HN in 2 months: "Why We Moved Our Rails + ExpressoWhatever app to mruby"
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yorickpeterse >
|jemc|: I don't have access to an ARM device sadly
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yorickpeterse >
my CTO has been bugging me about it as well as he's messing around with a Beaglebon
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yorickpeterse >
* Beaglebone
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yorickpeterse >
but from what I read it's a pretty serious undertaking
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yorickpeterse >
way beyond my understanding at least
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|jemc| >
beyond mine
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|jemc| >
lots of c memory management stuff involved with updating to the newer LLVM JIT
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|jemc| >
which is more restrictive in some ways
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|jemc| >
but an arm device shouldn't be needed to get that going
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yorickpeterse >
Yeah, I can see that taking 3-4 months easily
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apeiros >
time to have a secure OS again. cya guys.
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yorickpeterse >
well you can use qemu and sorts, but you'd still need to set up some form of device
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yorickpeterse >
apeiros: your OS is not secure
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yorickpeterse >
it's OS X
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|jemc| >
heh, maybe 3-4 months if it was already high priority
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yorickpeterse >
*smug Linux user*
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yorickpeterse >
|jemc|: I think for now the focus are some of the recent crashes I've been experiencing (at least for me) and wrapping up what's left to be MRI 2.1 compatible
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|jemc| >
yorickpeterse: well, one could update the JIT and test on accessible platforms before starting to actually test on arm
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yorickpeterse >
That is, kwargs and some missing methods
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yorickpeterse >
Well, "Update the JIT" itself is probably not very easy
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apeiros >
yorickpeterse: what was that about that 10 year old security bug in linux?
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|jemc| >
and refinements, right :P
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yorickpeterse >
Since Rbx uses some custom memory management stuff I believe
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yorickpeterse >
apeiros: eh?
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yorickpeterse >
refinements won't make it in, ever :P
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|jemc| >
fine by me
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|jemc| >
but yeah, doesn't look easy at all
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yorickpeterse >
I'm willing to fight over them not even being a feature in MRI
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|jemc| >
unless you're as deep in knowledge of the JIT code as only dbussink and brixen seem to be
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yorickpeterse >
I'm slowly learning but it will take some time before I'm even remotely close to their understanding
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yorickpeterse >
For me personally ARM also isn't the biggest kicker, I first want a stable GC/capi that behaves
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yorickpeterse >
It could very well be that our production code is just one of a kind, but regardless it's annoying if you fix one segfault only to get a new one
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yorickpeterse >
never seen it before, suddenly kaboom
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|jemc| >
that the capi works at all seems like a miracle - going from the core C++ to ruby and wrapping that in a largely undocumented unstable set of kludged together methods that might change at the drop of a minor release
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yorickpeterse >
oh yeah, the thing is I'd say there's two cases where things break: 1) stupid C extensions 2) honest bugs that happen in cases not experienced by most users
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. the bugs I've had so far probably don't affect the average Rails app
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|jemc| >
yeah, and everyone is only using ruby for rails, right?
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|jemc| >
good, we're agreed
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yorickpeterse >
No, but it's by far the biggest use case
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yorickpeterse >
or web apps in general (Sinatra, etc)
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yorickpeterse >
I'd say Rails apps are more prone because of all the 100s of Gems they typically load in and all the code running in the average HTTP request
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yorickpeterse >
(compared to say, Sinatra)
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yorickpeterse >
I have to set up some proper system that I get Emails whenever something segfaults though, right now if it happens in staging/production I have to go in to an instance, check ~/.rbx, etc
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|jemc| >
yeah, I just can't pass up a good opportunity to make a sarcastic remark and vent about rails-blindness
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yorickpeterse >
and said instance might've been terminated by then
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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|jemc| >
I thought you of all people would appreciate it
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yorickpeterse >
I have a love-hate relationship with Rails
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yorickpeterse >
I used to fucking loathe it
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yorickpeterse >
I remember saying I'd rather suck a dick than do Rails
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yorickpeterse >
well
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yorickpeterse >
that went slightly different :P
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Elico >
centrx: no no there was a rails + ruby installation But I dont remeber the name.
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|jemc| >
well I don't do web work so I'm free to remain loathing
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yorickpeterse >
Rails gets the job done but ugh it's such a fat pig
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yorickpeterse >
Good thing I don't do mainly web dev though, I spend more time in the amazing world of Unix
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yorickpeterse >
and backend processes
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yorickpeterse >
also makes swapping Rubies much easier. If some process is down for an hour then meh, nothing happens
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yorickpeterse >
if a web app is down? Well, shit
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yorickpeterse >
Technically for our backends we have about 24 hours before customers notice
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yorickpeterse >
if they notice it at all
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yorickpeterse >
Which is actually pretty nice, you can let interns deploy knowing they can't really break anything
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yorickpeterse >
(assuming they'd get past Jenkins yelling at them)
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. that big blob of yellow?
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yorickpeterse >
Customers didn't really notice until a few days later when some stuff was delayed
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|jemc| >
ah, that was a recent screenshot wasn't it
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yorickpeterse >
I just made that one
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yorickpeterse >
it's of the past 30 days
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|jemc| >
yeah I noticed the date was a date that hasn't made it to my side of the globe yet :P
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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yorickpeterse >
anyway I'm off to bed, toodles
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Wardrop >
Ok, I'm still a little confused about how to document methods in my Ruby code. There's obviously two main solutions, RDoc and YARD, each with their own format. More confusing is that RDoc now supports other markup languages like Markdown.
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Wardrop >
How does all this work with Rubygems and auto-generated documentation like what rubydoc.info generates?
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Wardrop >
If I have an `.rdoc_options` file in the root of my Gem that defines markdown as the default format, is that sufficient for everything to "just work"?
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aef >
Wardrop: RDoc is the classic way to do it and is bundled with Ruby. YARD is much, much better but needs to be installed externally
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aef >
Wardrop: if you create a gemspec you would normally set gem.has_rdoc = true. To mark that it has YARD doc, you set gem.has_rdoc = 'yard'
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aef >
Wardrop: i recommend you to get familiar with YARD.
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aef >
Wardrop: if you documented your code and want to generate an HTML documentation you just go into your base directory and call yardoc
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aef >
Wardrop: there are also Rake tasks available for rake integration
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aef >
some goes for RDoc, but there you run the rdoc command
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