apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.0; 2.0.0-p353; 1.9.3-p484: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks
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<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: hahahahahahaha
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<catepillar> are there any major security concerns with Object.const_get()?
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<catepillar> as in it being able to execute code?
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<catepillar> i want to feed a list of strings through that method and return class names to dynamically load stuff at startup in a script
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<r0bgleeson> catepillar: yes
<r0bgleeson> it depends where they're coming from, if you trust the strings then no
<r0bgleeson> if you don't trust the strings it wouldn't be a good idea
<catepillar> the strings are coming from a yaml file
<r0bgleeson> hah
<r0bgleeson> sorry unrelated
<catepillar> ideally, a user would modify that to enable/disable certain classes
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<catepillar> i suppose i should probably validate those anyways
<r0bgleeson> if you don't trust the user then it wouldn't be a great idea.
<r0bgleeson> you could keep a whitelist.
<catepillar> who trusts users?
<r0bgleeson> how are methods called?
<catepillar> it's part of an IRC bot
<catepillar> built in cinch
<r0bgleeson> okay, you could keep a whitelist of class names that you're okay with loading.
<catepillar> yea, that makes sense
<catepillar> all my classes are already in a module
<r0bgleeson> if can also call methods via that file, or some other dynamic way, you'd have a lot of trouble
<catepillar> and im prepending the module to the strings already
<catepillar> methods won't really get called dynamically
<r0bgleeson> not sure i understand
<r0bgleeson> do you have code?
<catepillar> unless a user changes one of the .rb riles
<catepillar> *files
<catepillar> code is in progress right now
<catepillar> that's the yaml file
<catepillar> relevant lines there are 23 and 28
<r0bgleeson> okay, but yaml could represent any ruby object, so are you loading this file from someone you dont trust?
<r0bgleeson> they may just be able to force you to load a ruby object via YAML and never get to const_get
<catepillar> hmm, ok
<catepillar> i figure if a user goes that far out of their way, then they deserve it
<catepillar> right?
<r0bgleeson> huh?
<catepillar> if a user is going far enough out of their way to change the YAML file enough to load their own ruby object
<catepillar> that file is more or less only going to be touched by users
<r0bgleeson> well, just don't use yaml if you need to represent simple type's like a list/map/string/number.
<r0bgleeson> that'd make sure it's not a problem
<catepillar> what would you use instead?
<catepillar> yaml seems to be a favorite of the ruby community
<r0bgleeson> i've used toml for a human-readable language.
<r0bgleeson> JSON, but it's not very human-friendly, some say it is
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<catepillar> i thought about json
<catepillar> but didn't like it because it isn't friendly enough
<catepillar> toml looks nice
<catepillar> maybe even nicer than yaml
<r0bgleeson> toml has an ini-like syntax
<r0bgleeson> but the only ruby parser i found wasnt that great
<r0bgleeson> works though
<catepillar> works is enough for me
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<catepillar> thanks
<r0bgleeson> np
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<bnmrrs> Hey! I'm trying to create an asset rollup gem. I'd like to include font awesome, compass, foundation and a few others in my rollup gem. I'd like the methods from font awesome available whenever the rollup gem is installed. How would I do that?
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<yulo7> what does rgar do "#{(ip & 0xFF000000) >> 24}.#{(ip & 0x00FF0000) >> 16}.#{(ip & 0x0000FF00) >> 8}.#{ip & 0x000000FF}"
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<apeiros> RGAR!
<apeiros> yulo7: it extracts 4 bytes from ip
<apeiros> i.e., IP is a 4 byte integer (obviously representing an IPv4 address) and it's being converted to the 255.255.255.255 segmented numbers notation
<Lewix> 255.0.0.0
<apeiros> 1.2.3.4
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<yulo7> apeiros: what's the purpose...why not just use the ip
<apeiros> yulo7: how'd I know? I don't know where you found that code and what and why it does…
<apeiros> yulo7: I'd assume because not too many people can do anything with an ip address of "3232235777"
<apeiros> but a lot more understand "192.168.1.1" (same as 3232235777)
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<apeiros> you do know what an ip address is, right?
<yulo7> so var ip is not in dot.notation
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<apeiros> yulo7: 07:18 apeiros: i.e., IP is a 4 byte integer
<apeiros> so, no, it isn't.
<yulo7> apeiros: ip is current_sign_in_ip from devise so me thought was dot.notation
* apeiros off for commute
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<finch> Good day folks, what is the preferred method for submitting patches for consideration for Ruby? Are Github pull requests acceptable or should I generate diffs and send those to a certain location?
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<apeiros> drbrain: ping, you there? http://pastie.org/private/ozxphbhqg8g6e9ekoeodw generates a list of deps with --pre versions, how do I disable that?
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<yorickpeterse> morning wenches
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<jackyalcine> I am a SCREW!
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<apeiros> jackyalcine: prepare to be DRILLED!
<yorickpeterse> euhhh
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<yorickpeterse> there's a weird innuendo in there
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<jackyalcine> yorickpeterse: yeah, I left it alone
<jackyalcine> lol
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<yorickpeterse> it's a good day when you get to tear apart JS code
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<solars> hey, does anyone know what OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError (SSL_write:: bad write retry) means? never hatd this before
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<Pupeno_w> Is it possible to modify the code that prints exceptions in Ruby when they are not handled?
<whitequark> not really
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<ledestin> I suppose you could modify source and build, but I've never seen how it's done
<ledestin> I mean, the code that handles that
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: I remember you mentioning aws rds (pg), did you ever end up using it?
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: not yet
<yorickpeterse> we do use RDS MyFirstSQL though
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<yorickpeterse> Our (probable) Mongo migration isn't until another month or two I think
<apeiros> Pupeno_w: just add a handler at the top-level?
<yorickpeterse> plus I still have to write mongo2sql
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<whitequark> MyLittleSQL
<yorickpeterse> I await the day it's renamed to OracleSQL
<yorickpeterse> or MyOracle
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<r0bgleeson> apeiros: how did you get 1.0.0.pre of pry? custom install?
<apeiros> via Gem::Dependency
<apeiros> why? can't install it with gem install --pre pry?
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<r0bgleeson> 1.0.0 shouldn't be a pre
<r0bgleeson> but maybe it is
<r0bgleeson> it's not on rubygems.org
<r0bgleeson> if you installed via git that would happen
<r0bgleeson> yikes :[
<yorickpeterse> that's a year old though
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<apeiros> r0bgleeson: odd question, though - the code for how I got there is in the paste…
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<r0bgleeson> sure, but i don't know if that's reading local gems or remote, so i asked a question =)
<apeiros> that code reads remote
<r0bgleeson> indeed....
<r0bgleeson> confirmed :))
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<ljarvis> does anywhere here use a cli for managing aws tools?
<yorickpeterse> Yes
<ljarvis> which one?
<yorickpeterse> we use the 'aws' tool from Amazon itself, and a custom inhouse one
<yorickpeterse> The custom one mostly provides a basic interface to some common tasks
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<yorickpeterse> http://hastebin.com/raw/milabatiba example
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<ljarvis> interesting
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<yorickpeterse> meanwhile I managed to get Rbx binaries rocking on CentOS (building them that is)
<yorickpeterse> so now we can deploy Git and stable releases without compiling 3 times
<yorickpeterse> Plus it will, given I don't get smacked, be public
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<gnufied> are you using rbx in production? :D
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<yorickpeterse> We're moving over, yes
<yorickpeterse> Last week I had some stuff running but I reverted back to MRI due to a GC bug (which has been fixed in rbx 2.2.4)
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<yorickpeterse> deploying to 3 AMIs is a bit of a PITA though, hence I'm spending some time solving our build/release process
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<makerops> on the ruby one, why wouldnt self.name work?
<yorickpeterse> fuck I hate C
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<yxhuvud> yorick: any special reason? I tend to find wellwritten c nice (though a bit tedious).
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<yorickpeterse> it's fucking mess
<yorickpeterse> Macros on top of macros on top of conditional defines hidden somewhere in /usr/include/bits/lol.h
<bougyman> makerops: because #name isn't a method
<bougyman> you can either use @name there, or add attr_reader :name
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<makerops> ah
<makerops> ty
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<noober3> can someone suggest a good ruby tutorial?
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<TTilus> yorickpeterse: messiness depends on the reference point
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<kbarry> I'm having trouble finding a lit of characters that need to be escaped in ruby.
<kbarry> i know "\"
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<kbarry> someone suggested I use %q, but i don't know enough of the syntax to know if it will work, or how to use it
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<drbrain> kbarry: if you use '' strings then you only need to escape \ and '
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<bougyman> a = "a"; puts %q{#{a} Hi}; puts %Q{#{a} Hi}
<bougyman> #{a} Hi
<bougyman> a Hi
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<bougyman> thos are the two forms of %q
<drbrain> kbarry: what is your real problem?
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