#ruby-lang on 2014-05-21 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-05-09 04:45 apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

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01:33 <t4nk321> i'm trying to test something and i'm stumped. testing a method that takes a block and yields a variable to the block. i use mocha for stubbing / expectations. how do i approach this?

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01:48 <wallerdev> pass in a block and have the expect inside that block?

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02:06 <t4nk321> anyboday around at this hour? is DHH here?

02:07 <t4nk321> am i just log data somebody will eventually laugh at?

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02:08 <t4nk321> how do people on a mac even use irc these days? textual is shit and xchat is so broken

02:11 <dvorak> I use textual, I don't love it, but it's ok I guess

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02:17 <nofxx__> limechat, but mostly cli based hosted somewhere

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02:24 <t4nk321> never got into the cli style irc client. maybe that's what i need to get into

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02:25 <t4nk321> xchat on linux works pretty awesome. i think os x version has a bunch of stuff messed up

02:25 <t4nk321> does limechat do python scripts?

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02:33 * |jemc| uses weechat, which does have support for python scripts

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02:33 <|jemc|> and even ruby scripts, I think...

02:34 <|jemc|> http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_scripting.en.html#_ruby

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02:34 <|jemc|> although this line reeks of BS:

02:34 <|jemc|> "Due to a limitation of Ruby (15 arguments max by function) [...]"

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02:34 <|jemc|> lol

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02:43 <drbrain> that's some awesome C code

02:43 <drbrain> ↑

02:45 <t4nk321> i need more than 15 arguments for every method i write

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02:45 <drbrain> I think its only a limitation across C functions

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02:47 <t4nk321> i think max args i've seen is 7 or 8 and that made me cry

02:47 <drbrain> >> def x(a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z) end; x 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26

02:47 <eval-in__> drbrain => nil (https://eval.in/154590)

02:47 <drbrain> \o/

02:48 <t4nk321> now try overloading it

02:49 <drbrain> I'd probably need around a 2GB list of arguments

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02:49 <drbrain> probably more, I have 16GB of memory in this machine

02:50 <t4nk321> can't argue with that

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04:21 <bnagy> |jemc|: the old win32 stuff had a 15 arg limit, for example

04:21 <bnagy> had to rewrite a thing in ffi cause of that

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04:21 <bnagy> don't know what fiddle does these days

04:22 <|jemc|> today I learned

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04:22 <bnagy> so yeah it's probably how they've written their binding

04:24 <bnagy> to be fair, if you're maintaining like 6 bindings I forgive you for not knowing every lang perfectly

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05:06 <JaReAx> k, so I get a QString with special characters.. I make a for-loop and do a cout << str[i].unicode() << ... and all the special characters have code 65533 (I presume that its because it can't specify their code)... When I read the forums and google it in general then I see that the code in qt5 should be saved in the utf-8 format. Is there a way to avoid recompiling everything and still get unicode codes from QString

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05:08 <JaReAx> qt-5 is utf-8 by standard, but is there a way to avoid recompiling my main project.

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05:17 <whitequark> why are you asking this on #ruby-lang?

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05:21 <JaReAx> lol... wrong channel :-{ sry

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08:41 <zcdny> hi there, how to run the ruby as a daemon process

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08:42 <zcdny> when i service ruby config.ru. it raises a message to say unrecognized service

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08:47 <yorickpeterse> morning

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09:55 <[spoiler]> morning, yorickpeterse :-)

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10:24 <julian37> I'd like to read from an alternate file descriptor (as stdin is needed for password entry), but e.g. IO.new(7, 'rb').read() gives me "Bad file descriptor (Errno::EBADF)". do I need to work some fcntl magic first, or something?

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10:26 <whitequark> julian37: are you trying to translate bash code into ruby?

10:27 <julian37> whitequark: no, I'd just like to let the user pass binary data to the process without necessarily having to write it to disk first

10:30 <whitequark> julian37: ok, there are two approaches I see

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10:30 <whitequark> one is to unset F_CLOEXEC on the corresponding fd in the parent process, then fork&exec passing the fd number to the child process, then do the IO.new(fd.to_i) trick

10:31 <whitequark> the second one, less portable but neater, is to just make the child process read data from a file, then do the same thing in the parent process as before, but pass /dev/fd/$FDNUM as the file

10:31 <whitequark> it's what bash uses when you do "cmd <(...)"

10:31 <whitequark> errr /proc/self/fd/$FDNUM

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10:37 <julian37> whitequark: option 2 is a great idea (non-portable is fine really), trying that now

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10:48 <julian37> whitequark: even simpler: with bash, "myrubyscript <(echo foo)" will pass something like /dev/fd/63 as ARGV[1]

10:48 <whitequark> that's exactly what I said

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10:49 <julian37> whitequark: that's what you said, sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise

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10:50 <julian37> whitequark: thanks again

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11:26 <yorickpeterse> Blegh, Octokit.rb is shit

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11:27 <apeiros> whatsitdo?

11:27 <apeiros> and whysitshit?

11:27 <yorickpeterse> Github's own API client for Ruby

11:27 <yorickpeterse> it's super confusing to use, uses method_missing all over the place

11:27 <yorickpeterse> usage doesn't actually seem to match the API either

11:28 <yorickpeterse> RIGHT

11:28 <yorickpeterse> Apparently for labels you have to do

11:28 <yorickpeterse> Octokit.labels('user/repo')

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11:28 <yorickpeterse> Instead of

11:28 <yorickpeterse> Octokit.repo('user').labels

11:28 <yorickpeterse> or something like that

11:28 <whitequark> wtf

11:29 <yorickpeterse> and Octokit.delete_label!('user/repo', 'label')

11:30 <yorickpeterse> had to figure that out based on the tests

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11:30 <apeiros> so basically Octokit has all the methods

11:30 <apeiros> I can see how that's annoying

11:30 <apeiros> fuck OO, lets just use global stuff

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11:32 <whitequark> my guess is they just gave it to a random intern, and the "fuck it, deploy it already"

11:32 <whitequark> then*

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11:33 <yorickpeterse> Right, now to add issue labels to 71 repositories

11:34 <yorickpeterse> oh, but I can't remove all labels at once

11:34 <yorickpeterse> ugh

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11:48 <canton7> can the API help?

11:49 <yorickpeterse> I sacrificed it 2 goats and that seems to've done it

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13:42 <ljarvis> moin

13:42 <ndrst> sometimes impressed by how little code you need to write to fuck so much up in rails :D

13:43 <yorickpeterse> s/rails/everything

13:43 <ndrst> or rails obfuscates more for you

13:43 <ndrst> but yeha

13:43 <ndrst> stop being right yorickpeterse

13:43 <maloik> that's only logical right?

13:43 <ndrst> you are that kid no one wanted to play with because it always knew all the answers :D

13:44 <maloik> if some magical process takes care of things for you, you need to know what it does or things will go wrong

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13:44 <yorickpeterse> ndrst: No, I was that kid nobody wanted to play with because I didn't suck their dicks and fit in

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13:44 <yorickpeterse> Ah yes, the primary school lyfe

13:45 <ndrst> fair enough :D

13:45 <yorickpeterse> hustlin' on the playground

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13:45 <ndrst> wanna be my friend [ ] Yes, [ ] No, [ ] Fuck Off

13:45 <yorickpeterse> [ ] Only when needed

13:46 <yorickpeterse> Good thing my current friends, who I mostly met through Reddit, are pretty cool people

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13:49 <whitequark> (fuck up everything) that's why a language in which every last thing is always mutable is a horrible idea

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13:50 <yorickpeterse> Ah yes, insert the language nerds

13:51 <ndrst> reddit friends? so you up and downvote your comments all the time?

13:51 <yorickpeterse> "BUT STATIC TYPING!!111 WHAT ABOUT THE IMMUTABLE MONADS!!11"

13:51 <yorickpeterse> ndrst: No, people I met through /r/amsterdam

13:51 <yorickpeterse> http://www.reddit.com/r/Amsterdam/comments/22c5qu/suitup_meetup_photo/ latest meetup to give some idea

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13:52 <whitequark> yorickpeterse: no, you can continue fuck with rails, it's hilarious to watch you fall over all the time

13:52 <ndrst> wow all so dressed

13:53 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: I prefer to have safe sex so no I won't fuck with Rails

13:53 <whitequark> at some point you'll realize your mistakes...

13:53 <yorickpeterse> I also didn't say anything that would indicate that Rails is ideal or whatsoever

13:53 <yorickpeterse> so please try again

13:53 <ndrst> burp rails.

13:53 <whitequark> too lazy to care

13:54 <ndrst> /r/berlin looks lame in a way

13:54 <yorickpeterse> ndrst: get on our level

13:55 <ndrst> what is that lvl?

13:55 <yorickpeterse> over 9000

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13:56 <ndrst> this is a kind of classic already in berlin: http://www.reddit.com/r/berlin/comments/2626us/any_berlin_redditors_please_help_performer/

13:57 <ndrst> yo lets go to berlin an party, loses all money in clubs and on drugs

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13:59 <yorickpeterse> welp

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14:15 <maloik> what do you mean a classic?

14:15 <maloik> that it happens a lot?

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14:21 <ndrst> too often

14:21 <ndrst> or at least I see a sign or a post or something almost ever1-2 weeks

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14:27 <maloik> I was in london last weekend

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14:27 <maloik> apparently selling balloons with laughing gas is a thing there

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14:27 <maloik> super dodgy lol

14:28 <maloik> only one in our company decided to try it, and perhaps unsurprisingly he was german (and maybe even from berlin)

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17:13 <iamwn> Hey guys, not sure if this is the correct channel to report this, however I'm having problems loading http://rubydoc.info/gems/mysql/2.9.1/frames. It always hangs on "processing mysql" and it's been like that for the past 2 days

17:14 <wallerdev> it says it shouldnt take much longer

17:15 <wallerdev> must be close by now

17:15 <wallerdev> lol

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17:20 <wallerdev> iamwn: probably can just open an issue here https://github.com/lsegal/rubydoc.info/issues

17:21 <iamwn> I will, but it seems that it was already reported several times on rubydoc.tenderapp.com

17:21 <iamwn> nobody replied in over a month though

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17:25 <wallerdev> welllll

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17:25 <wallerdev> you could try forking the repo and fixing it yourself i guess

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17:39 <iamwn> someone already reported the issue on github and again - no reply. so yeah, I guess I'll try to find the problem and fix it myself

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17:40 <xybre> iamwn: I've tried contacting the developer to offer my assistance and never got a reply.

17:40 <xybre> So I have no idea whats going on over there :(

17:40 <wallerdev> probably switched to nodejs

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17:43 <xybre> This was before node become such a buzzword.

17:43 <iamwn> xybre, meh, that sucks

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17:43 <iamwn> maybe hes on a vaccation or something

17:43 <xybre> Or at least the first time I tried to contact him it was.

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19:13 <john_____> hello everyone

19:14 <centrx> Good day

19:14 <john_____> i'm able to do a file diff and save the difference to a new file but

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19:15 <xybre> but?

19:15 <john_____> i would like to pass in the files using variables with the system() call

19:15 <john_____> please help

19:16 <john_____> as such system('diff path/file.txt path/file2.txt > newfile.txt) works

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19:16 <centrx> john_____, It's a string, so you can use string interpolation (use double quotes): "diff #{filename1} #{filename2} > #{filename3}"

19:17 <john_____> i did this: system('diff "#{file_var1} #{file_var2} > #{new-file}"')

19:18 <john_____> ok 1 sec

19:19 <john_____> system("diff #{baseline} #{generated} > #{difference}")

19:19 <centrx> yes

19:19 <john_____> got undefined local variable

19:20 <centrx> Are those variables defined?

19:20 <john_____> diff

19:20 <havenwood> john_____: did you defined baseline, generated, and difference?

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19:20 <john_____> got undefined local variable 'diff'

19:20 <john_____> it's complaining about the diff command

19:21 <havenwood> john_____: from code other than what you're showing?

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19:21 <john_____> the variables are defined...baseline='path/file.txt'

19:21 <john_____> and so on

19:22 <havenwood> john_____: in what you pasted, `diff` is inside double quotes. i'm assuming in the code you're using it's not?

19:23 <centrx> john_____, Use gist.github.com to show actual code

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19:23 <john_____> if system(diff "#{baseline} #{generated} > #{difference}")...undefined method 'diff'

19:23 <john_____> when i do the above without if

19:24 <havenwood> john_____: diff isn't inside the string

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19:24 <centrx> system(string)

19:25 <john_____> system('diff' "#{baseline} #{generated} > #{difference}")

19:25 <john_____> i tried this

19:25 <havenwood> john_____: *inside* the double quoted string

19:25 <john_____> undefined local variable or method 'diff'

19:25 <havenwood> john_____: you pasted back centrx's example a min ago

19:26 <nofxx> john_____, "diff #{base........

19:26 <john_____> that did not work either

19:26 <nofxx> yes it did

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19:26 <john_____> system("diff #{baseline} #{generated} > #{difference}")

19:27 <john_____> that should work?

19:27 <centrx> That is correct. If it does not work, there are other issues. You need to post actual code, and actual error messages

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19:29 <john_____> undefined local variable or method `diff' for main:Object (NameError)

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19:29 <nofxx> In ruby 'foo' "bar" == 'foobar' ... btw, there's a hidden + in strings

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19:30 <Mon_Ouie> john_____: That won't work if baseline, generated or difference have spaces, quotes or other funny characters in them

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19:31 <john_____> demo_baseline = 'scripts/data/demo/demo_baseline.txt'

19:31 <nofxx> yea... Regexp.escape() best friend when dealing with paths

19:32 <Mon_Ouie> that's not the right kind of escape at all

19:32 <Mon_Ouie> Shellwords.escape would work

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19:33 <Mon_Ouie> Also using system with multiple arguments rather than a single one (though that wouldn't work with the '> diff')

19:33 <nofxx> Mon_Ouie, glad to know that now, thanks

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19:33 <john_____> could you give me an idea of how to reword the shellwords.escape

19:33 <nofxx> Mon_Ouie, anything better than &> /tmp/fu ... File.read(/tmp/fu) ? I use that for most cli based scripts

19:34 <john_____> i only wish to compare the file and save its output to file

19:34 <Mon_Ouie> Instead of #{foo} you'd have #{Shellwords.escape(foo)}

19:34 <john_____> ok 1 sec

19:34 <Mon_Ouie> You need to require 'shellwords' for it to work

19:34 <eam> ideally, bypass the shell entirely

19:35 <john_____> ok

19:35 <john_____> trying that now

19:35 <eam> quoting and interpolating strings isn't great practice in general

19:35 <Mon_Ouie> nofxx: IO.popen/Process.spawn?

19:35 <Mon_Ouie> That way you get an IO object that you can read from directly

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20:36 <random-spam6> if a class extends a module, are that module's instance methods available on instances of the class? I am seeing conflictual info

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20:49 <centrx> random-spam6, extend assigns the module's methods to the class, include assigns them to the class instances

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20:57 <apeiros> random-spam6: extend/include always take the modules instance methods. extend adds it to the singleton class (making it class methods in case of a class) and include on the class (making it instance methods)

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20:57 <apeiros> >> module X; def x; "x!"; end; end; Array.extend X; [].x

20:57 <eval-in__> apeiros => undefined method `x' for []:Array (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/155379)

20:57 <apeiros> gah

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20:57 <apeiros> >> module X; def x; "x!"; end; end; Array.extend X; Array.x

20:57 <eval-in__> apeiros => "x!" (https://eval.in/155380)

20:58 <apeiros> >> module X; def x; "x!"; end; end; an_array = []; an_array.extend X; an_array.x

20:58 <eval-in__> apeiros => "x!" (https://eval.in/155381)

20:58 <apeiros> >> module X; def x; "x!"; end; end; Array.include X; [].x

20:58 <eval-in__> apeiros => "x!" (https://eval.in/155382)

20:59 <apeiros> note that 1 & 2 are technically the same thing. extend an object. call the module's instance methods on that object.

20:59 <centrx> >> 1 & 2

20:59 <eval-in__> centrx => 0 (https://eval.in/155383)

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21:07 <t4nk828> I'm teaching a class to science types who have little to no programming experience. I want to strongly suggest that they complete one thing before the first day of class. Would you suggest code academy, Learn Ruby the Hard Way, Chris Pine's Learn to Program, or something else?

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21:10 <havenwood> t4nk828: Between Hard Way and Learn to Program I'd vote Learn to Program.

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21:12 <havenwood> t4nk828: try ruby is nice: http://tryruby.org/

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21:13 <havenwood> t4nk828: A nice reference you might want to give them as well: http://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/ruby/

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21:13 <havenwood> though that ^ might be more useful if someone already knows another lang

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21:21 <t4nk828> Those are good suggestions, thanks (hadn't seen learnxinyminutes before). I am more interested in more comprehensive resources, I think.

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21:23 <t4nk828> Anyone here learn on "Learn to Program"?

21:23 <centrx> t4nk828, Also try #ruby

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21:24 <centrx> or havenwood already answered, he knows what he's talking about

21:24 <centrx> t4nk828, I generally recommend Ruby Koans or Ruby Monk

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21:24 <havenwood> t4nk828: Learn to Program is a good one. Though it only covers the basics.

21:25 <havenwood> t4nk828: it ends with introduction to blocks and procs

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21:25 <havenwood> t4nk828: but it does a good job being thorough for beginners

21:25 <t4nk828> ahh, yes, Ruby Koans is good. I'll have to check out ruby monk. What about codeschool? Any comparison with code academy? If I were to assignment them a site I could say, "you need to do x,y,z modules before start of class".

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21:26 <havenwood> t4nk828: try ruby is codeschool

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21:28 <havenwood> t4nk828: i don't have any experience with codeacademy to say

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21:30 <havenwood> t4nk828: treehouse is another i've not done :P

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21:38 <t4nk828> treehouse looks very nice. Unfortunately costs $ for > 1 mo. Hard to recommend to students.

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21:42 <zenspider> t4nk828: I've recommended Pine's book a LOT of ppl.

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