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redgetan >
what does it mean when id < tLAST_TOKEN
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For example, I have a line of code: 10.downto(7).with_index {|num, index| puts "#{index}: #{num}"} . I want to check out the help document of the method "with_index", then how to do that?
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stardiviner: You mean like in irb or pry?
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havenwood: in irb or pry, or In Emacs etc
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stardiviner: In Pry for example you can `show-doc 10.downto(7).with_index` or `?` is a short alias for `show-doc`.
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stardiviner: to figure out where the `with_index` method is from, you can: find-method with_index
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havenwood: why show-doc with_index is invalid?
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havenwood: Is there more tricks on this find doc and locate methods/class/module etc?
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stardiviner: show-doc Enumerator#with_index
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stardiviner: did you take a look at `find-method with_index` that i mentioned above?
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havenwood: I did a test on `find-method with_index' now, seems work when I don't know Enumerator#
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stardiviner: or in `irb` you could type `help` then `with_index`
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stardiviner: or i guess in Pry: ri with_index
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havenwood: both of `help with_index` and `ri with_index` in Pry failed.
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stardiviner: `help` for docs is irb only
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stardiviner: i'd have expected `ri with_index` to work, works for me - maybe you don't have ri docs installed
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havenwood: Is ri-docs a gem?
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stardiviner: `find-method` with `show-doc` should be fine :)
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havenwood: yes.
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havenwood: wow, this tutorial looks complete. Great.
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stardiviner: `ri` isn't a gem, it's a binary that ships with ruby, like `gem`, `irb` and `ruby`
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havenwood: Then where do I install ri-docs ?
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stardiviner: how'd you install Ruby?
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havenwood: I install in Ubuntu with apt-get ruby1.9 ruby2.0 and also install with rvm install ruby2.0
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stardiviner: I think RVM has `rvm docs generate-ri`.
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stardiviner: looks like apt has a separate package for ri
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stardiviner: sudo apt-get install ri1.9 ri2.0
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havenwood: maybe is the package ruby2.0-doc
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havenwood: Thanks again, I asked all my questions. I will do the rest part with search.
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stardiviner: happy hacking!
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yorickpeterse >
well, TIL ActiveRecord is not thread-safe it seems
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yorickpeterse >
"NoMethodError: undefined method `reverse' for nil:NilClass" out of the blue, once in a while
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yorickpeterse >
Though I'm not sure yet if it's a thaerdngi issue
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yorickpeterse: afaik there's a method to force it to thread-safety
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i.e. it's optionally thread-safe
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yorickpeterse >
wat
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yorickpeterse >
"optionally thread-safe" you mean a giant lock around everything?
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DefV >
stupid trdginhae
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yorickpeterse >
weeee, another day, another daemon ready to go into production
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matti >
yorickpeterse: It has to be a very scary server.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: So many daemons.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Needs some exorcism.
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oh we've got that too
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yorickpeterse >
This newest daemon is aptly called "shepherd"
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yorickpeterse >
basically it just does some status reporting
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matti >
Glad you got that covered ;s
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matti >
yorickpeterse: :)
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yorickpeterse >
of all the things we could improve metrics we have plenty
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yorickpeterse >
Will be adding some more CPU metrics today as well
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Written in Ruby?
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yorickpeterse >
MOAR METRICS
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yorickpeterse >
yush
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yorickpeterse >
all of it
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matti >
Ohh poor heap memory.
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yorickpeterse >
I'll have none of that stinkin' JS
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yorickpeterse >
actually the heap is fine
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yorickpeterse >
we're on 2.1.2 and I've already tweaked the GC/heap
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matti >
Is 2.1 still not releasing heap back once it grows?
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yorickpeterse >
This new daemon has an average heap of 5MB so far
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yorickpeterse >
2.1.2 improves things a bit but it's still meh out of the box
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matti >
This is a Go re-write, clearly ;p
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yorickpeterse >
at least not as bad as 2.1.1
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yorickpeterse >
I'd rather have some heap bloat than no error handling :P
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matti >
You can heave heap bloat due to error handling too!
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matti >
Exceptions are objects too!
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yorickpeterse >
I guess a constant was too mainstream
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matti >
I would not install this gem ;s
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DefV >
boy, that code...
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yorickpeterse >
euh, the code isn't that bad
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yorickpeterse >
A bit old school perhaps, but beyond that global variable it doesn't scare me
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matti >
Famous last words.
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matti >
"We've had this little variable, you see... and it did things, you see..."
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meh, might just fork it and get rid of the gvar
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yorickpeterse >
First need to see if it does everything my heart desires
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matti >
Your heart's desiers are pretty simple then ;p
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throws some /proc/sys parsing at yorickpeterse
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matti >
Now, you are in love with me.
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matti >
Feels like Monday today.
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maloik >
it's not? oh snap
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yorickpeterse >
I already did my fair share of /proc parsing
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yorickpeterse >
honestly /proc is pretty sweet
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yorickpeterse >
The formats are a bit odd at times but it beats having to us `ps` and the likes
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Proc should die in hellfire.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: /sys is the new sissy kid.
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yorickpeterse >
Fuck that, /sys is worse
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yorickpeterse >
I can never remember where the heck I have to look to find something
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yorickpeterse >
"oh it's in /sys/cpu/foo/bar/baz/cpu0/something/stats"
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matti >
I remember Ruby's IO#read being upset with /proc ;]
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matti >
Ya had to do good 'ol cat ...
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yorickpeterse >
Now to wait for the "WONTFIX"
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jammanbo >
In regexes, it's not possible to use a non-capturing group as a back-reference is it? I need to make a back-reference but don't really want to actually capture the thing being referenced.
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apeiros >
jammanbo: eh? back-references are not capturing groups
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apeiros >
sorry, misread
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apeiros >
yes, you need to capture
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matti >
yorickpeterse: "NOCLUEWONTFIXKTHXBYE"
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matti >
yorickpeterse: If you can be arsed.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Sigar offers a lot of systems-related metricks.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: But is a third-part C library/project.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: So ffi or bindings for ya.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: But, IIRC there is a nice Ruby gem wrapping it too.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Puppet Labs's Facter used to use it, I think. Or maybe still does. Ohai used too.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Not sure whether is any good these days.
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yorickpeterse >
hmmm
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yorickpeterse >
Hm, last release in 2012
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yorickpeterse >
meh, this will do for now
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yorickpeterse >
I really only need CPU load averages
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matti >
That's like a one-liner.
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matti >
Come on man.
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yorickpeterse >
except it has to run on Linux, Unix and OS X
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yorickpeterse >
and OS X never heard of /proc
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yorickpeterse >
Hm, probably could do it with FFI
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surrounder >
bsd neither!
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yorickpeterse >
meh, I'll use this for now because lazy
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matti >
yorickpeterse: There is only one true OS.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: -> Ultrix
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yorickpeterse >
the fuck is Ultrix
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Oh great, sys-cpu actually spits out system wide load averages
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I need process specific :<
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Oh blegh I can't use vmstat since this needs to work on jrubby
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yorickpeterse >
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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yorickpeterse: i am really happy that the unicode consortium added even more emojis to the standard so you can get more creative
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yorickpeterse >
now we just need to wait 10 years for every font to properly display them
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whitequark >
they shouldn't have added any, ever
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whitequark >
screw emoji
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yorickpeterse >
( `Д´)=◯)`ν°)
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yorickpeterse >
But yes I agree that it doesn't really belong in the Unicode spec
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yorickpeterse >
That pile of poop Unicode is the prime example
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workmad3 >
whitequark:
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whitequark >
workmad3: "whitequark: on emoji? :)" is what I see
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workmad3 >
whitequark: bah... it was a happy pile of poo :)
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whitequark >
given the above, are you surprised that I don't have fonts with emoji?
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workmad3 >
I have emoji in my terminal prompt
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matti >
workmad3: You do?
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matti >
workmad3: You otaku.
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: ヽ(´ー`)ノ
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yorickpeterse >
Be glad this channel doesn't allow colours
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matti >
workmad3: Holy quark.
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matti >
workmad3: That's one hell of a fancy prompt.
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whitequark >
workmad3: wow, that's a horrible prompt
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matti >
workmad3: You need to throw there some animated Nyan cat gif.
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whitequark >
90s-style icons, looking so much out of place.
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yorickpeterse >
dat prompt
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matti >
With added git hooks for repositories.
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matti >
workmad3: I bet this prompt compounds to 50% of your day-to-day CPU usage ;p
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whitequark >
workmad3: a little bit less horrible
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yorickpeterse >
nice and easy
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yorickpeterse >
errr derp
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yorickpeterse >
wrong screenshot
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yorickpeterse >
but it does show my prompt
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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yorickpeterse >
(that's runic btw)
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workmad3 >
matti: potentially... :)
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workmad3 >
whitequark: I find it useful having that info on the prompt, makes it easier for me to spot when I've done things like left a terminal logged into a server or setup on the wrong ruby
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workmad3 >
the cat face for previous command status I'll admit is gratuitous...
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matti >
yorickpeterse: What is with all the runes?
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Are you writing somthing for the Norse Gods?
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yorickpeterse >
matti: I wanted to know if the particular app worked with Runic
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yorickpeterse >
the assumption I had was that it would be shite for Unicode
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yorickpeterse >
it also doesn't handle Chinese I believe
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* matti
slaps yorickpeterse
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matti >
No Chinese!
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matti >
Shame on you.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Mandarin is mandatory nowadays.
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matti >
yorickpeterse: For long irregular swear words, Firefly style.
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yorickpeterse >
well this suite only supports a bunch of European languages so I can't really blame it
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matti >
yorickpeterse: :)
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jammanbo >
So again with the regexes … If I name one capture group, do I need to name them all or something? Unnamed capture groups are matching for me but not being captured.
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jammanbo >
oh, I see, found it. nvm
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canton7 >
#captures
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jammanbo >
Okay, I give up. Need help. I'm trying to define a regex string to be embedded in larger regexes. Specifically: def quoted; %Q{(["'])([^\1]*)\1}; end. The problem is that when I use this in a larger regex, the capture group numbering may be wrong. Is there a way I can do this?
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jammanbo >
e.g. /the (man|woman) is called #{quoted}/
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whitequark >
jammanbo: named captures
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jammanbo >
whitequark: Yeah I thought that was the way, but apart from making me name everything which I'd rather not do, it can't handle /#{quoted} or #{quoted}/
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whitequark >
don't use regular expressions for this
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darix >
yorickpeterse: they even add a middlefinger emoji in the standard
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darix >
something discussions on the internet really needed.
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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ssam2 >
hi! Is there a canonical way to find the upstream source code for a given Gem ?
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canton7 >
ssam2, check rubygems, google '<gem name> github'
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canton7 >
or failing that, just open up the gem on your local machine :P
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gnufied >
there is none.
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gnufied >
rubygems spec does not require gem publisher to specify upstream source
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ssam2 >
OK, thanks for the input. I'm looking to do it in as automated a way as possible
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ssam2 >
searching github for each may turn out to be close enough :)
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ssam2 >
do you know if this is a deliberate design decision of the rubygems spec, or just something that nobody's really cared about before?
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darix >
ssam2: you can often also check the readme files or so
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canton7 >
ssam2, a gemspec does contain a field for the project's homepage
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canton7 >
whether source code is available from that homepage is up to the gem maintainer
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ssam2 >
OK. I'm working on a distro where everything is included directly from upstream Git repos, so this isn't ideal for us
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ssam2 >
but I'm sure we can get 'good enough' fairly easily by searching github, looking at gemspecs etc.
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yorickpeterse >
why the heck would you want to directly install from Git?
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yorickpeterse >
That's a recipe for disaster
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canton7 >
sounds silly. gems can be distributed as binaries, might require vastly different steps to build them, etc etc
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ssam2 >
right, but it adds an indirection between what's running in your system, and the upstream project
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yorickpeterse >
bullshit
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canton7 >
ruby already has a package manager for gems: gem. in my experience, when distros start getting involves in this, stuff gets real messy real fast
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ssam2 >
if I find a bug and fix it, I don't want to do it in files in /usr/share/gems in my local system, I want to do it in the git repo
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yorickpeterse >
Using that argument we'd all use ASM because C adds a layer of indirection
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yorickpeterse >
ssam2: then fork the repo and submit a patch?
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matti >
Way too high level.
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yorickpeterse >
You know, how people have been doing this for decades
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canton7 >
ssam2, so if a gem has a bug, and some
*other* gem relies on that bug, are you going to go and fix it in your private fork, then install that as the system version of that gem?
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: forking the repo and submitting a patch is exactly what I'd want to do
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: but if all I have is a Gem, how do I find the repo in the first place?
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matti >
ssam2: Not sure either, but sounds cool to have it there.
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yorickpeterse >
ssam2: google?
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matti >
ssam2: Like having onion is a cheesburger.
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yorickpeterse >
You have to find the repository sooner or later
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yorickpeterse >
You're trying to solve a non issue
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yorickpeterse >
More importantly, you're adding a whole bunch of other problems by relying on Git directly
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: would you mind explaining some of those problems? it would be helpful for me to know
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yorickpeterse >
Use RubyGems for installing Gems, don't re-invent an even more square wheel to do that
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matti >
ssam2: BTW, including everything from upstream repositories sounds like a recipe for a massive on-going headache.
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yorickpeterse >
ssam2: stability is the biggest one
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yorickpeterse >
There's no guarantee that some branch you rely on doesn't change from one minute to the other
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matti >
ssam2: And can lead to serious brain damage.
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yorickpeterse >
or that it works at all to begin with
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yorickpeterse >
Some projects rely on files not tracked in Git (e.g. bit datasets)
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yorickpeterse >
You'll also need to know the exact build process for every component in order to build it
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yorickpeterse >
instead of just `gem install FOO`
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ssam2 >
so it's not as simple as 'rake build' ? It's pretty simple in the C world, and the Python world
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yorickpeterse >
You're basically doing what Gentoo & friends do, except those at least rely on semi-stable source inputs (e.g. some .tar.gz somewhere)
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canton7 >
gem maintainers know best how to build their projects. they decide what's stable, test it, and build it, package it, and publish it
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yorickpeterse >
ssam2: that is not gauranteed
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canton7 >
ssam2, depends on the project. just as in C - there's no predefined way to build any given C project
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yorickpeterse >
Some Gems might require `rake do_a_barrel_roll`, others might not use Rake at all
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ssam2 >
true, but in practice 90% of the time 'make, make install' works
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Mon_Ouie >
gem build *.gemspec && gem install *.gem will often work
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yorickpeterse >
Mon_Ouie: "often", not "always"
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ssam2 >
manually adding build steps for 10% of the cases isn't an issue for us
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yorickpeterse >
More importantly, what happens if the Git remote is down?
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canton7 >
*most* projects will have a .gemspec, and you'll 'gem build' them.
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yorickpeterse >
Do you add 15 other remotes?
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yorickpeterse >
Or can you just not install anything?
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canton7 >
ssam2, so you're going to restrict the gems available on your system to the gems you've manually verified work with your special build system?
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: we have a tool to mirror all the upstream repos we want.
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yorickpeterse >
I have about 20 or so projects that require more than just a `gem build`
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canton7 >
there are many, many, many gems out there
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yorickpeterse >
ssam2: so you're already adding a layer of indirection
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yorickpeterse >
Why not just use RubyGems?
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yorickpeterse >
Again, don't re-invent an even more square wheel
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yorickpeterse >
You'll be ignoring ~10 years of RubyGems development knowledge
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yorickpeterse >
and possibly 30 years of knowledge about how to package and distribute things
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: I was under the impression that Gems can build anything as part of their build process, including C and whatever else
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ssam2 >
is that correct?
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yorickpeterse >
Yes
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yorickpeterse >
You could install Fortran for all you'd want
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ssam2 >
if Gems were purely Ruby code, I'd be happy to just use Gems
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yorickpeterse >
...what?
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ssam2 >
but given that there can be binaries, I don't want to use them
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yorickpeterse >
So what, "sorry you can't install this Gem"?
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yorickpeterse >
I can't fret this enough, this sounds like a really really bad idea
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yorickpeterse >
The amount of time and effort you'd have to put into this is not worth the tiny gain you
*might* get
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canton7 >
and if you end up with an even slightly shitty rubygems re-implementation, people hate you. this has happened before
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canton7 >
don't take a decent package management system and screw it up. please :)
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: bear in mind we don't
*just* care about Ruby code :) our original goal was building a basic GNU/Linux system, so mostly C code
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ssam2 >
currently I'm trying to allow integrating Ruby code in a consistent way
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yorickpeterse >
Compiling C is
*nothing* like building Ruby gems
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ssam2 >
certainly I don't want to reinvent Gem!
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canton7 >
how are you going to handle dependencies? is your gem re-plementation going to handle the whole dependency management stuff, including the semantic versioning constraints?
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canton7 >
are you going to provide something which bundler can use?
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ssam2 >
canton7: isn't that a bit inside out? Bundler already provides something
*we* can use
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canton7 >
are you going to force users to modify the Gemfiles of any projects they use to point to your custom gem server?
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canton7 >
as in, if I download a project off github, run 'bundle install', will it work on your system?
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ssam2 >
canton7: I don't know enough about bundle yet to answer that, but thanks -- something useful to think about
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canton7 >
given that that Gemfile is going to specify rubygems.org as its gem source
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yorickpeterse >
To give an example, I have a bunch of projects that pre-build and package .jar files in the Gem before the .gem is built
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ssam2 >
keep in mind the goal isn't to build a Gem, the goal is to build a *system*, which happens to contain some Ruby components
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yorickpeterse >
So just a `gem build` only gets you half of what you need
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yorickpeterse >
ssam2: Just install those using RubyGems
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canton7 >
ssam2, so you're going to allow the user to install their own gems?
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yorickpeterse >
You don't want to also do this crap for haskell, python, perl, or any other language one might want to install
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yorickpeterse >
Also take a look at nixOS and its package manager in particular
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: I'm aware of nixOS, I actually think it's really cool
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ssam2 >
but a little too complex and general purpose for what I'm trying to do
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ssam2 >
the goal is to build self-contained 'appliance' type systems
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yorickpeterse >
heh, if you're using the raw source directly I wouldn't really call it self contained
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ssam2 >
so making it easy for users to install stuff after the systems are built isn't really a goal
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: i'm not sure what you mean by that ..
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yorickpeterse >
self contained would assume that it can be fully operational on its own and only depends on a stable set of inputs (of which you can guarantee that they are stable)
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yorickpeterse >
A git repository is not stable at all
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yorickpeterse >
People fuck around in them, rename them, perhaps remove them forever
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ssam2 >
that's why we mirror them
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yorickpeterse >
Sure, you can mirror them. But that begs the question: why the heck not just use the original system (e.g. RubyGems in this case)
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ssam2 >
because yes, you're right that people go wild in their git repos sometimes :)
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yorickpeterse >
You said it yourself: you don't want layers of indirection
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yorickpeterse >
You are very fundamentally adding them
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ssam2 >
because it's mirroring arbitrary binaries, not source code repos
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ssam2 >
if we mirror a Git repo, it's trivial to push a branch to the original
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ssam2 >
if we mirror a Gem, we have some Ruby code + arbitrary binary data for a random architecture
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yorickpeterse >
It's no more difficult to send a patch to a Gem, or a Python package, or something else
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yorickpeterse >
and that's false
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ssam2 >
I thought you agreed that anything can be built as part of a Gem ?
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yorickpeterse >
Yes, but compilation happens upon installation
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. C extensions are built upon gem installation
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canton7 >
(you can have precompiled gems, can't you?)
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yorickpeterse >
Some Gems
*might* contain architecture independent binaries
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. I think eventmachine or something ships some pre-compiled crap
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canton7 >
yeah, that and nokogiri for windows iirc
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yorickpeterse >
That however is the problem of the author of said Gem
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yorickpeterse >
You, as a packager/distro maintainer can not possibly expect you can take care of that for everything out there
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yorickpeterse >
It's a battle of David vs Goliath, except Goliath always wins
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ssam2 >
yorickpeterse: OH!
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ssam2 >
I'd missed that compilation happened upon installation
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yorickpeterse >
You can mirror the .gem files just fine and I recommend doing so since RubyGems is not always as reliable
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ssam2 >
well, you guys have definitely convinced me to explore mirroring gems directly, instead
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ssam2 >
thanks for that!
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ssam2: rock linux fork?
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darix: wow, not heard of Rock Linux before. It's not a fork of that :)
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looks quite interesting though, thanks for pointing it out!
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Morning, all.
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morning
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busco amigos
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project structuring question:
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I have a repository with a set of integration tests (lets call it "X") to test the interoperability of gems A, B, and C.
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when working on any one of the gems A, B, and C, I want a rake command in that project directory to run the integration for the working directory version of the gem under work with the
_latest released_ versions of the other two gems
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to avoid the current workflow of: do some work on gem A, run gem build and gem install for gem A, then navigate to the directory for tests X and run them with all installed versions
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|jemc| >
Has anybody had a similar problem they found an idiomatic project structure for?
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Right now, I'm picturing gems A, B, and C having tasks that will pulll down the latest X into a subdirectory and then somehow interface with bundler to use the working directory version of BOTH A and X (rather than the typical bundler behavior of A or X only)
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why the hell does pry eat all lines of backtrace except the first? O_o
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whitequark: you can change that
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also wtf?!?!???!? shows more of the backtrace (no joke)
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basically the numbers of ? or ! says how many lines :)
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just change the config
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