apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<maloik> we paid like 75 euro for 4 tickets to the eurostar which is an hour away
<maloik> single trip
<maloik> couldve driven there 10 times over AND parked there for a weekend for that kind of money
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<DefV> well, did you pay 75 euro for 4 tickets or 75 euro per ticket?
<DefV> and where did you drive :-)
<maloik> lille
<DefV> ah
<maloik> for 4
<DefV> that's silly
<maloik> yea
<maloik> well I suggested driving
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<maloik> but then, hippies
<maloik> :-)
<DefV> save the environment, and all that
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<apeiros> maloik: I don't know what you're complaining about
<apeiros> you pay twice as much here just to get down a mountain…
<yorickpeterse> morning
<maloik> what do you mean?
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: m8 how do I get from London to Brighton
<apeiros> maloik: a ticket from the rigi (a local "mountain") to arth-goldau (40min ride iirc) is 40.- CHF (a bit more than 30€)
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<maloik> but you're in switzerland
<apeiros> zurich <-> bern is ~100 CHF iirc
<maloik> that doesn't count
<maloik> :D
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<yorickpeterse> also lol at that bug report
<yorickpeterse> somebody missing the point of parsing
<yorickpeterse> "It's fast: it's just syntax sugar. The "&:to_s" is slower because the to_proc method is invoked, you have a cache of procs, etc."
<apeiros> huh, wait, what? it got cheaper? only 50.- CHF now
<yorickpeterse> ( `Д´)=◯)`ν°)
<apeiros> lol @ emoji
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<railzForDaiz> haha
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<apeiros> OMG, they want to work on infrastructure on friday 13th! crazy!
<maloik> I woke up to a bunch of guys shouting and joking while putting up scaffolding against the appartment building
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<maloik> windows wide open of course
<maloik> not amused
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<yorickpeterse> http://dogeon.org/ oh...my...god
<yorickpeterse> I'm so totally using this for my next 100 APIs
<yorickpeterse> "Doge APIs using Rails and React.js"
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<maloik> :D
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<yorickpeterse> "can't activate json-1.8.0, already activated json-1.8.1"
<yorickpeterse> not this shit again ._.
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<yorickpeterse> ( `Д´)ノ)`ν゜) RubyGems
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: m8 you get a train. I know a decent website you can do that through
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: are you getting a plane or eurostar?
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: plane probably, it's 2x cheaper
<ljarvis> yeah not surprised
<yorickpeterse> like, Ryanair is 80 bucks or something
<yorickpeterse> train would be 150
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<ljarvis> so it depends which airport you come in to
<yorickpeterse> euh, lemme check what they fly into
<yorickpeterse> Stansted apparently
<ljarvis> uh gay
<ljarvis> you'll have to get a train to liverpool st first
<ljarvis> then probably transfer
<ljarvis> what time are you thinking of landing?
<yorickpeterse> Probably on the 20th
<yorickpeterse> Trying to be a cheap ass and book as few nights as possible
<yorickpeterse> (so I can fit it in $COMPANY_BUDGET)
<ljarvis> yeah, I guess it depends where you stay sunday night
<ljarvis> closer to brighton would be easier than travelling monday morning
<yorickpeterse> I found some affordable places in Brighton itself
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<yorickpeterse> dayuuum, 60 bucks for a return flight
<yorickpeterse> notbad.jpg
<ljarvis> yeah that's good
<yorickpeterse> I'll be flying with a tincan though but w/e
<yorickpeterse> it's only for an hour
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<ljarvis> heh
<ljarvis> is stansted the only choice?
<yorickpeterse> Alternative is Manchester
<ljarvis> haha
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<yorickpeterse> dayuuum, stansted is quite far away
<yorickpeterse> not exactly "london" either
<yorickpeterse> Hm, maybe I can take the ferry to Dover
<ljarvis> basically stansted is x brighton is y: x (london) y
<yorickpeterse> wat
<ljarvis> the airport is almost the same distance outside of central london as brighton is :D
<ljarvis> https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Stansted+Airport,+Enterprise+House,+Bassingbourn+Rd,+Stansted,+Essex+CM24+1QW,+United+Kingdom/Brighton,+The+City+of+Brighton+and+Hove,+UK/@51.3602603,-0.6745495,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x487604b8a52a1bb7:0x30a4d0976b352648!2m2!1d0.238866!2d51.886018!1m5!1m1!1s0x48758509f6294167:0x9cc6af7a727d0ef9!2m2!1d-0.137163!2d50.82253
<ljarvis> dat journey
<yorickpeterse> Yeah I can't copy-paste that link
<yorickpeterse> I also did look it up
<yorickpeterse> and it's quite the distance
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<canton7> Somehow, I always read the "This route has tolls" message as "This route as trolls", and get mildly concerned for a minute
<ljarvis> probably 2 1/2 hours on the train, with transfers, not too bad
<ljarvis> not ideal :/
<yorickpeterse> Hm, ferry would be 80 bucks
<yorickpeterse> but at impossible times
<ljarvis> are there even decent links from dover?
<yorickpeterse> oh, it goes to Harwich
<yorickpeterse> jesus
<ljarvis> i dunno where that is
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<yorickpeterse> Near Ipswich
<yorickpeterse> so it's even further than Stansted
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<ljarvis> haha wat
<ljarvis> yeah way further
<ljarvis> shame you cant fly into southampton
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<gauravb7090> Hey was having problem upgrading my ruby from 1.8.7 can someone help?
<yorickpeterse> Jebus, KLM to Heathrow is....expensive
<ljarvis> heathrow is awesome
<ljarvis> gauravb7090: what's the problem?
<yorickpeterse> 150 bucks for KLM
<yorickpeterse> so about the same as the train
<yorickpeterse> but closer
<yorickpeterse> and I don't have to go to Paris for it
<yorickpeterse> I should get a plane
<gauravb7090> here's the log file ljarvis http://pbot.rmdir.de/YbmBd8Qml8fp5LI6R4vIMA :)
<ljarvis> aye
<ljarvis> gauravb7090: join #rvm; sorry I'm not debugging rvm shit
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<gauravb7090> I wanted to use roo and nokogiri but can't use it with 1.8.7 :(
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<gauravb7090> okay :) thanks :)
<ljarvis> it's doing something weird with gcc arguments
<yorickpeterse> oh sheeee, we actually have some customers in Brighton
<yorickpeterse> oh...inactive contracts
<yorickpeterse> dang it
<ljarvis> hah
<ljarvis> I think im gonna stay in brighton the night before too
<ljarvis> can't be fucked with morning travel
<yorickpeterse> Well, with KLM I'd be flying in on Caturday
<yorickpeterse> tha saves me about 100 Euros
<ljarvis> lol caturday
<ljarvis> and gives you 2 days to explore
<ljarvis> :/
<yorickpeterse> "explore" everybody knows it will rain
<ljarvis> NO
<ljarvis> it actually probably wont. I would wager against it at that time anyway
<ljarvis> in contrary to the rest of the year
<benlovell> can probs squeeze someone in at my hotel
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<yorickpeterse> I'm not sharing beds
<ljarvis> NO DEAL
<ljarvis> how else will you keep warm in the british cold
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<workmad3> ljarvis: just buy a nice warm british summer anorak
<ljarvis> :D
<ljarvis> I have many
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<yorickpeterse> Hmm...hostels would be a heck of a lot cheaper
<yorickpeterse> but then I have to share the room with shavs
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<workmad3> yorickpeterse: you mean chavs?
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<teotwaki> Hi, I'm trying to get NewRelic instrumentation to work with Grape mounted on RackUp; would this channel be the right place to ask for help? Apologies in advance if it isn't.
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<yorickpeterse> workmad3: yeah those
<workmad3> teotwaki: I'd suggest your first port of call is probably better as #newrelic personally
<maloik> well damn, iOS certificate bullshit is a serious pain in the ass
<teotwaki> workmad3: thanks, will do.
<maloik> too me an hour to figure that shit out
<ljarvis> maloik: yup!
<workmad3> teotwaki: as I'm assuming you've already followed the newrelic guide on setting up the monitoring for a rack app and are having a specific newrelic problem? :)
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<ljarvis> benlovell: are you just staying the sunday eve?
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<ljarvis> you live in reading or something dont you?
<workmad3> ljarvis: btw, something is really wrong with the weather where I am at the moment...
<ljarvis> where are you?
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<workmad3> ljarvis: manchester
<yorickpeterse> hahahaah Ruby:
<workmad3> ljarvis: where there's.... sun...
<teotwaki> workmad3: Not quite, working in development exclusively at the moment, and not really getting the same visualisation as I'm seeing on some blog posts, so just wondering whether my instrumentation was setup properly or not. It looks to be OK, so I'm just going to leg it and see what happens.
<yorickpeterse> so I do require 'json' and I get
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<yorickpeterse> can't activate json-1.8.0, already activated json-1.8.1
<ljarvis> workmad3: D:
<yorickpeterse> So I'm like "ok, I'll do `gem 'json', '= 1.8.1'`
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<yorickpeterse> same problem
<yorickpeterse> so I think "ok lets use 1.8.0"
<workmad3> ljarvis: I'm hoping the rain will return later today :)
<yorickpeterse> then I get "can't activate json-1.8.0, already activated json-1.8.1"
<yorickpeterse> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
<benlovell> ljarvis: yah i'm in reading, staying sunday and monday
<ljarvis> workmad3: last time I went to manchester (about 2 months ago) I couldn't see more than 100 foot in front or me
<ljarvis> benlovell: ah nice
<teotwaki> I'm in southern France; were supposed to have a nice 35C like yesterday, but the sea decided to muck the sky up.
<workmad3> ljarvis: :D
<benlovell> damn sea
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<ljarvis> I'm going to Malta on Tuesday
<workmad3> ljarvis: drats... just checked and the BBC thinks this unnatural sun is going to persist until tomorrow :(
<ljarvis> workmad3: tell them to send it down south
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<workmad3> ljarvis: I could try... but all the people I know in the BBC are in sports, not in the weather control department...
<ljarvis> the weather in basingstoke is shit
<maloik> it's quite nice over here in belgium actually
<maloik> predictions state 25* over the weekend, maybe even today I don't really know
<workmad3> maloik: heh :) send some nice weather to ljarvis then... and send some chocolate my way (haven't had belgium chocolate for a while :) )
<workmad3> *belgian
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* teotwaki waves at maloik (fellow belgian)
<maloik> teotwaki: really? who are you? :-)
<maloik> workmad3: come over for arrrrcamp :D
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<maloik> I'll make sure to have some ready
<teotwaki> I used to get that question though, when I moved to France... "Hey, I know this Belgian guy, called Fred, do you know him?"
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<ljarvis> lol @ "who are you?"
<maloik> I meant real name, you dipshit :(
<workmad3> maloik: bah... one of these days I'll have to get to a ruby conf
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<ljarvis> workmad3: come to brighton
<ljarvis> still tickets
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<maloik> teotwaki: so I suppose you don't make it out to a lot of ruby burgers / BRUG events?
<teotwaki> not yet :)
<teotwaki> Just started out with ruby couple weeks ago
<maloik> oh ok
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<maloik> hmm that's weird, I've seen your name somewhere before
<benlovell> probably teowaki
<benlovell> javier ramirez' startup
<maloik> ah right
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<maloik> that's the one
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<benlovell> i did a wat too
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<yorickpeterse> wat
<maloik> teotwaki: not family of frank lauwers by any chance, are you?
<teotwaki> not that I remember
<teotwaki> Then again, I don't know most of my family, so...
<workmad3> ljarvis: don't think my wife would appreciate me vanishing on that short a notice... and not on a weekend we're busy on already either...
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: does Brighton have some kind of campsite? I might just get a fucking tent or something
<yorickpeterse> or just sleep under a tree
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<yorickpeterse> guess I better /nick hermitpeterse
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: you don't want to risk sleeping under a tree in britain... if you don't get rained on overnight, the chavs will steal your sleeping bag and trainers...
<ohsix> from what i saw in London to Brighton it has some
<yorickpeterse> workmad3: hm good point
<maloik> you should probably consider yourself lucky if it's just rain, too
<workmad3> maloik: well, it's july in southern england... snow is probably off the table
<workmad3> although I guess there is the chance of a freak hurricane or similar...
<maloik> I was hinting at being pissed on
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<maloik> I actually saw that happen a while back, some drunk guy taking a leak on a sleeping homeless man
<workmad3> maloik: I did wonder if you were being crude :)
<maloik> think about it though... that's a horror scenario right there
<maloik> wouldn't want to wake up to that
<workmad3> maloik: I can think of worse than being pissed on...
<maloik> well I guess..
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<maloik> (now I'm thinking you're the one being crude)
<maloik> :D
<workmad3> maloik: cruder, yes ;)
<workmad3> maloik: and while I've not encountered a man doing that on someone in manchester, I have encountered people doing it into closed shop doors at night...
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: haha, benlovell already offered squeezing you in at his hotel
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<yorickpeterse> I'd still have to pay
<ljarvis> well yeah but it's going to be cheaper
<benlovell> yorickpeterse: nah forget dat
<ljarvis> well no you wont*
<yorickpeterse> benlovell: I'm not going to freeload on others
<benlovell> i didn't pay either, bro
<yorickpeterse> wat
<yorickpeterse> oh wait yeah you're speaking
<yorickpeterse> haha
<benlovell> uhuh
<ljarvis> you'd still need sat night though if you come then
<yorickpeterse> I'm not sure if it's very nice to freeload on that
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<benlovell> cripes, just stay in my hotel don't worry about the ethics :)
<benlovell> i'm sure nobody will mind
<ljarvis> such ethical
<benlovell> amaze
<maloik> organizers often do room checks though, better be scared!
<maloik> :P
<yorickpeterse> benlovell: but you have multiple rooms or what?
<yorickpeterse> Last I checked you were not a sjeik with a delegation of 500 women
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<ljarvis> yes he booked 3 rooms for himself
<yorickpeterse> haha
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<benlovell> i got the whole floor
<yorickpeterse> benlovell: either way, my point being is that somewhere in the back of my head I can imagine it happening that people are like "lol you're not allowed here, get out m8"
<benlovell> nah m8 leave it out m8
<benlovell> well, it's up to you. offer stands
<benlovell> if not, see you under the tree.
<yorickpeterse> well I appreciate it, but I'm curious how it would work out
<benlovell> you come into room. you leave room. world turns.
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<yorickpeterse> That sounds....fishy
<yorickpeterse> Do I need to wear a dress?
<benlovell> lol.
<ljarvis> what's the point if it's coming off
<benlovell> it helps
<benlovell> hahaha
<workmad3> ljarvis: public decency laws are a PITA...
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: getting past reception is harder when naked
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<ljarvis> lol reception
<ljarvis> they have seen worse
<ljarvis> it's brighton after all
<yorickpeterse> All I know of Brighton is that it has a pier
<ljarvis> lots of men in dresses
<yorickpeterse> benlovell: but so you're there from Sunday to what day?
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<ljarvis> it's painful how difficult this has become
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: I'm a very difficult person
<yorickpeterse> like, I have serious issues with taking up offers from others
<workmad3> ljarvis: also, modern britain... the hotel staff wouldn't *dare* say anything about 2 men sharing a room for fear of being classed as discriminatory...
<benlovell> +brighton
<yorickpeterse> well I could pretend to be his son
<benlovell> haha
<maloik> in a dress?
<yorickpeterse> Except I'm not orange and having a kid at, what, 15? would be odd
<yorickpeterse> Then again it's the UK
<workmad3> maloik: still wouldn't be particularly weird...
<ljarvis> :D
<workmad3> yorickpeterse: if you believe the daily mail, not having a kid at 15 would be the odd situation...
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<workmad3> of course, if you believe the daily mail, you're pretty screwed anyway... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTu7GLfrmUI
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: heh, loco2's website is actually decent
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: thanks for the back-handed compliment
<yorickpeterse> haha
<yorickpeterse> Well, train websites here usually are shit
<ljarvis> ya
<yorickpeterse> Though our national rail services' website is ok
<ljarvis> now buy a ticket
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<ljarvis> so i can eat
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<yorickpeterse> Can I Gittip you instead?
<yorickpeterse> I'll tip you like...2 Euros
<ljarvis> buy me a beer in brighton instead :D
<yorickpeterse> fine by me too
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<ljarvis> also, you'll still want some train tickets to get to brighton :D
<ljarvis> unless you parachute
<yorickpeterse> Oh yeah, I haven't looked that up yet
<yorickpeterse> Trying to see if I can fit all of this in to my 300 (or 350, not sure) Euro budget
<ljarvis> heh
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<kingpong1> hil all i saw rubymine has this feature where when u click on a method it finds ti and opens the file
<kingpong1> i was wondering if vim has the same feature
<kingpong1> ?
<kingpong1> i am using vim
<kingpong1> so heelp
<yorickpeterse> kingpong1: not out of the box
<kingpong1> ok
<yorickpeterse> you have to enable "ctags" for it
<yorickpeterse> well, time for a custom middleware I guess
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<ljarvis> brighton ruby are fitting in a lot of talks
<ljarvis> for single track
<benlovell> yeah could have been 2 days easy
<ljarvis> yours is nice and early
<benlovell> primetime
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<yorickpeterse> lets not all yet get on the Ruby....hype train
<yorickpeterse> CHOO CHOO
<yorickpeterse> I'm off to lunch
<roelof> Why do I see this error : main.rb:5:in `new': allocator undefined for Data (TypeError) on this script : http://pastebin.com/JqPtCuz7
<yorickpeterse> Because Data is a Ruby thing
<yorickpeterse> You shouldn't use it directly
<ljarvis> ^
<yorickpeterse> roelof: also it's a typo
<ljarvis> it can't be allotated
<yorickpeterse> You probably wanted to use Date
<yorickpeterse> not Data
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<roelof> oke, changed it but then I see this error : main.rb:5:in `initialize': wrong number of arguments (3 for 0) (ArgumentError
<roelof> yorickpeterse: can you see why ?
<ljarvis> roelof: paste the actual code, all of it
<roelof> actual code : http://pastebin.com/bTpGfP7g
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<ljarvis> roelof: require 'date'
<ljarvis> the Date.new in core isn't the same as Date.new in stdlib
<roelof> ljarvis: thanks
<roelof> and how do I use it when I want to use the Date,new in core ?
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<ljarvis> >> Date.new
<eval-in> ljarvis => #<Date:0x410b2570> (https://eval.in/159392)
<ljarvis> >> requre 'date'; Date.new
<eval-in> ljarvis => undefined method `requre' for main:Object (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/159393)
<ljarvis> >> require 'date'; Date.new
<eval-in> ljarvis => #<Date: -4712-01-01 ((0j,0s,0n),+0s,2299161j)> (https://eval.in/159394)
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<ljarvis> you probably never want the one in core, if you're doing stuff with dates, require date
<whitequark> why is it even there?..
<centrx> Do you even instantiate
<ljarvis> not sure, looking in the source
<kingpong1> ok i have ctags
<whitequark> an empty, useless class
<kingpong1> configured
<kingpong1> now how do i traverse the tree on the left
<kingpong1> in vim
<ljarvis> whitequark: can't see it
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<roelof> oke, I solved my case. Here the whole solution to find a day of the week of a date which is a string
<roelof> Date.new(date.match(/\d{4}/)[0].to_i,12,25).strftime("%A")
<canton7> so that takes a year, and finds the day-of-the-week that christmas is that year? righto
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<roelof> canton : yep
<roelof> and the input can be a string which works now or a datetime object
<roelof> now trying to find out how to find the difference between the two
<roelof> I can do that with is_a? but I think there must be a better way
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<roelof> canton7: yep, your assumption is right
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<apeiros> roelof: `date.match(/\d{4}/)[0]` --> `date[/\d{4}/]`
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<roelof> apeiros: when I changed it like this return Date.new(date[/\d{4}/]`.to_i,12,25).strftime("%A") I see a error message on codewars. Invalid ruby
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<workmad3> roelof: you copied a ` across
<ljarvis> :D
<apeiros> roelof: because… what workmad3 said
<ljarvis> fancy elipsis is fancy
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<roelof> thanks, That was the part that took me the longest to get working
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: backwards compatibility with something I believe
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<maloik> apeiros: seeing as you're in the rubymotion channel, you wouldn't happen to know about my last question?
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<yorickpeterse> welp, requested days off for Brighton
<yorickpeterse> guess we're doing this
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<apeiros> maloik: while I bought rubymotion the day it came out, I still haven't used it :(
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<maloik> :-(
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: the fuck is up with Heathrow -> Brighton being just as expensive as Stansted -> Brighton
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<centrx> bigger airport
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<yorickpeterse> the latter is twice the distance
<yorickpeterse> that makes no sense
<yorickpeterse> ehm in fact, it's cheaper
<yorickpeterse> Heathrow -> Brighton: 75 GBP. Stansted -> Brighton: 55 GBP
<centrx> It's always cheaper to fly out of a less active airport that is farther from the city center
<ljarvis> he's talking about trains
<centrx> oh
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: lol trains
<centrx> You just happened to pick two airport names
<yorickpeterse> like srsly
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: i paid 160 gbp for a one way ticket to bristol once
<yorickpeterse> D:
<yorickpeterse> wtf
<ljarvis> yeah, an hour later and it would have been ~45
<ljarvis> (it was for a meeting)
<yorickpeterse> Hm, if I do the hostel route this would cost me ~330 Euros
<ljarvis> why not just stay with ben?
<ljarvis> saves even more
<yorickpeterse> well yeah, but I fly in on Caturday
<ljarvis> ah right
<ljarvis> yeah hostels.. heh
<yorickpeterse> Having said that, if Stansted is cheaper I might just use Ryanair
<yorickpeterse> which was about 60 Euros
<yorickpeterse> 80 if you include the train ticket
<ljarvis> seems reasonable
<yorickpeterse> and it's only 30 more minutes by train
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<yorickpeterse> which would mean I could fit it all in my $WORK budget (total of 270)
<yorickpeterse> Giving me about 30 GBP to blast on alcohol and wenches
<yorickpeterse> errr Eur
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<ljarvis> success
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<yorickpeterse> so our national police corp is getting new uniforms
<yorickpeterse> all they are missing are automatic machine rifles
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<yorickpeterse> http://www.essex.police.uk/images/dutch-police-officers-gallerya.jpg this is what they normally look like
<yorickpeterse> Though the kevlar vests are pretty rare
<yorickpeterse> usually they come with beer bellies instead
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<sandbags> part of the global militarisation of police forces
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<sandbags> making them look like a homogenous group and very different to regular folks helps create a more insular/separate culture
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<yorickpeterse> sandbags: they literally did it to look more respectable
<yorickpeterse> kingpong1: you're using a Hash
<yorickpeterse> not an Array
<yorickpeterse> Also, just linking to gists is not a very convenient way of asking questions
<yorickpeterse> {"venue_id = ?", venue_id}
<kingpong1> sorry guys
<yorickpeterse> should be
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<yorickpeterse> ["venue_id = ?", venue_id]
<kingpong1> it wa man for ror channes
<yorickpeterse> heh
<kingpong1> soz it was meant for ror channel
<kingpong1> :))
<kingpong1> old keyboard with pocky keays
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<sandbags> yorickpeterse: look more respectable? :)
<sandbags> well... i guess
<yorickpeterse> That's a friendly way of saying "I'd shit my pants if that chased me"
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<maloik> I gotta say, the old uniforms do make them look like whimps
<maloik> though there won't be much nighttime sneaking around with those reflective strips
<yorickpeterse> glow in the dark police officers
<surrounder> lol
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<yorickpeterse> oh great, now I have bundler suddenly trying to install Nokogiri on two instances
<yorickpeterse> where it should not because it's already bundled
<yorickpeterse> argh
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<yorickpeterse> Seriously a warning to all: pre-packing/building Gems is a fucking pain in Ruby land
<momomomomo> what are you trying to do?
<momomomomo> If it's just build a gem, then you might benefit from checking out some tutorials :O
<yorickpeterse> ....
<yorickpeterse> I've been rating about Ruby for 4 years now, I know what building Gems is
<yorickpeterse> I mean pre-building/packaging Gems on a build server, slapping those in an archive with the entire app and ship that
<yorickpeterse> You'd be surprised how terribly difficult that is on Ruby
<benlovell> yorickpeterse: check out tutorials bro
<yorickpeterse> k
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<yorickpeterse> dang it, w3schools has no tutorials on Ruby
<yorickpeterse> please advise
<benlovell> aww shoot
<benlovell> expertsexchange?
<yorickpeterse> That's still around?
<cout> expert sex change?
<benlovell> innit
<momomomomo> why not package your app into an rpm
<benlovell> there you go yorickpeterse ^^^
<yorickpeterse> I hope you're trying to troll me
<yorickpeterse> Like, it would actually be a good attempt
<momomomomo> a little bit now since you came off as an ass earlier
<yorickpeterse> We're not using RPM, but the setup is similar to it
<yorickpeterse> Just not distro specific
<dvxam> yorickpeterse : are you really lookin for ruby tutorial on an ASP website??
<benlovell> this has gone meta now
<yorickpeterse> Since we don't really need any of the distro specific bits when it comes to packaging (e.g. all the requirements of Debian packages)
<benlovell> when trolls go bad
<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: what are you deploying on / why is this such a unique use case?
<yorickpeterse> We're deploying on a variable number of EC2 instances that can range from 25 to over 9000. You don't want those instances to start yelling at RubyGems during a deployment
<yorickpeterse> Because if RubyGems goes down, which it does, then you can't deploy
<yorickpeterse> Same goes for Github
<kingpong1> universa1: how do i select all likes and copy then in vim
<kingpong1> how do i select all likes and copy then in vim
<yorickpeterse> kingpong1: wrong channel
<yorickpeterse> I think
<kingpong1> sorry
<kingpong1> :)
<kingpong1> any way
<yorickpeterse> either way, by pre-packaging everything an app needs you take out those middlemen
<kingpong1> do u know
<kingpong1> answr
<yorickpeterse> The only dependency in this case is S3
<yorickpeterse> It also makes deployments faster, since you only have to install stuff once
<yorickpeterse> This also is a downside though. If you're using C extensions and your OS changes too much you have to re-install those (possibly)
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<yorickpeterse> And now apparently Bundler thinks its ok to just install stuff
<yorickpeterse> (during runtime)
<yorickpeterse> Which means I'll probably have to firewall RubyGems out as a start
<momomomomo> well yorickpeterse of course, that's nothing new
<momomomomo> i'm wondering why it has to be distro specific
<momomomomo> erm
<yorickpeterse> It doesn't have to be
<momomomomo> not*
<yorickpeterse> Because like I said, we don't need anything distro specific package wise
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<yorickpeterse> Why do I need to read up on how to package things for CentOS when I can just run `tar -cvf .` and be done with it?
<yorickpeterse> Why do I then have to install stuff in to /usr/whatever/foo/bar
<yorickpeterse> and include metadata files and all that
<momomomomo> not saying that you do - I enjoy using buildroot to build some docker containers
<yorickpeterse> Docker might be a future option, I haven't looked into that yet
<momomomomo> which is essentially a linux flavor for embedded devices
<yorickpeterse> it's certainly an interesting option
<yorickpeterse> I know what containers are
<momomomomo> I'm deploying a large app with it now
<momomomomo> it has its strengths, but there are some weird cases to get used to
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<kingpong1> here it is
<kingpong1> it took me a while to yank and use xclip to paste in vim
<yorickpeterse> which reminds me, I still need to open sauce our secret bundler sauce
<kingpong1> all updated
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<kingpong1> hope u can help guys
<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: neat - what all does it involve? does it tar up a bunch of local gems for you and up to s3?
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<kingpong1> sorry
<kingpong1> pasting not worked 1 min
<yorickpeterse> momomomomo: basically the Bundler sauce pulls in the paths of all the used production Gems and copies them to vendor/bundler
<FiXato> kingpong1, did you manage to convert that find_by_sql you asked about yesterday? :)
<yorickpeterse> Basically `bundle install --deployment` without the need of installing anything
<yorickpeterse> which saves the need for re-compiling C extensions and the likes
<kingpong1> FiXato: no :(
<kingpong1> FiXato: i cant pass params i will update code now and send
<FiXato> aww
<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: nice
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<kingpong1> how can i copy all my lines in vim and paste them into a gist?
<kingpong1> have xclip but not working
<kingpong1> ?
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<yorickpeterse> kingpong1: you have to use "+y
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<yorickpeterse> instead of just y
<kingpong1> can u ouline all steps
<kingpong1> pls
<kingpong1> im just lost now
<kingpong1> :(
<kingpong1> such a simple task
<yorickpeterse> I just gave you the answer
<kingpong1> so i select all coe with shift V
<kingpong1> code with shift V
<kingpong1> then i just press
<yorickpeterse> Again, if you're on Linux you have to use "+y by default
<yorickpeterse> since "y" doesn't copy things to the system clipboard
<kingpong1> yes ubuntu
<kingpong1> doesnt work thoush
<kingpong1> just tried
<yorickpeterse> Did you set up clipboard sharing between Vim and the system clipboard?
<kingpong1> no
<kingpong1> :~\
<yorickpeterse> then run :so ~/.vimrc
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<kingpong1> can find vimrc
<kingpong1> @
<kingpong1> ?
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<yorickpeterse> in ~/.vimrc
<surrounder> go and create it then
<yorickpeterse> :e ~/.vimrc
<workmad3> kingpong1: also, if all you want is to gist a whole file... https://github.com/defunkt/gist
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<kingpong1> "+y
<kingpong1> do i put this with :"+y
<kingpong1> like this
<kingpong1> or what
<kingpong1> got such a simple task
<yorickpeterse> ...
<kingpong1> sorry
<yorickpeterse> You literally type
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<yorickpeterse> " + and y in that order (keep them all pressed)
<yorickpeterse> err wait, you don't have to keep them pressed
<yorickpeterse> so just " followed by + followed by y
<kingpong1> do i select first wit shift V
<kingpong1> ?
<yorickpeterse> yes
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<kingpong1> so i hold shift when pressing y?
<kingpong1> :))
<kingpong1> this is funny
<kingpong1> ok will try
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<yorickpeterse> No, you only hold shift for the " and +
<kingpong1> thanks
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<kingpong1> ur patience rocks
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<kingpong1> ended up using gvim
<kingpong1> please tell me when i know how to use vim it will speed up dev
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<yorickpeterse> 2-3 months in
<yorickpeterse> depending on how often you use it
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<kingpong1> how to check if thin is running on my remote linux server
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<yorickpeterse> SSH in to the machine and check the process list?
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<kingpong1> ps tree
<kingpong1> what was the command
<kalleth> ps aux
<kalleth> ps uaxfww
<kalleth> ps -allthethings
<kalleth> then | grep thin
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<kingpong1> ok im confused
<kingpong1> onw command guys
<kingpong1> one*
<FiXato> ps aux | grep thin
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<kingpong1> will that work on my local machine
<kingpong1> because i am running thin on my local machine
<kingpong1> and when running i get
<FiXato> `ps aux` will return a list of all running processes for any user. the | is a pipe which will allow to pass the results of the previous command to be passed on to the command after the |, in this case `grep thin` which will filter and just return the results that match 'thin'
<kingpong1> FiXato: ! thanks always concise
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<FiXato> if you want to know what a given shell command does, run it through explainshell.com: http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=ps+aux+%7C+grep+thin
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<foucist> say i have an array [1,2,3,4,5] and i have a value 2, and i want everything after that value.. i.e [3,4,5]
<foucist> what's the nicest way to do that ?
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<jhass> array[array.index(value)..-1] I guess
<foucist> yeah i guess that'll be the way to go
<foucist> thanks
<foucist> array[array.index(value)+1..-1]
<foucist> heh
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<havenwood> foucist: just an aside, but in 2.2.0-dev you can: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5].slice_after(2).to_a.last #=> [3, 4, 5]
<havenwood> foucist: with introduction of #slice_after
<foucist> cool
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<ljarvis> uh
<foucist> but that's (2) as in index
<havenwood> foucist: [:a, :b, :c, :d].slice_after(:b).to_a.last #=> [:c, :d]
<foucist> ah neat
<ljarvis> >> RUBY_VERSION
<eval-in> ljarvis => "2.1.0" (https://eval.in/159492)
<foucist> havenwood: do they fix slice() then? :P [:a, :b, :c, :d].slice(:b) supported?
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<foucist> gotta be consistent after all
<ljarvis> that makes no sense
<ljarvis> slice(x) would just be x or nil
<ljarvis> also lol @ slice_before being added before, and slice_after being added in 2.2
<ljarvis> dat consistency
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<yorickpeterse> This is Ruby we're talking about
<ljarvis> sigh
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<havenwood> then there's the proposed #slice_between: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/9826
<ljarvis> mother of god
<ljarvis> this shit is not necessary
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<havenwood> and #slice_outside, #slice_each_cons, #slice_chunk, #slice_of_bread
<havenwood>
<ljarvis> this is almost as bad as the proposed &.x syntax
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<yorickpeterse> slice_of_ruby
<yorickpeterse> Then of course somebody will propose 5 aliases for every method
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<SkramX> hi all - having issues with ruby 2.0.0 Time.strptime parsing "2014-06-05T300347Z". I try Time.strptime("2014-06-05T300347","%Y-%m-%dT%6N") but it says %6N is invalid it seems
<kingpong1> pasing params
<kingpong1> if anyone has any idea
<kingpong1> would begreeat
<jhass> kingpong1: looks like a #rubyonrails question
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<kingpong1> i know but
<kingpong1> no answers there
<kingpong1> bit slow ..
<kingpong1> ?
<ljarvis> kingpong1: calling scope() inside product_counts() is not valid
<jhass> answers after up to two or three hours later are normal on IRC
<kingpong1> ok jhass
<kingpong1> didnt knw
<kingpong1> u guys hre are tons more helpful
<kingpong1> sorry to say
<kingpong1> :~
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<FiXato> that's the beauty of IRC: it is asynchronous, so people can reply at their own convenience
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<kingpong1> ljarvis: i was thinking to call ProductCategory.joins(:products, :venue_products).where(:venue_products => ["venue_id = ?", venue_id]).count
<kingpong1> ljarvis: instead of scope()
<ljarvis> kingpong1: ok?
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<kingpong1> ljarvis: so i can pass the param
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<kingpong1> but getting name error for venue_id
<ljarvis> kingpong1: right, but you can't use scope
<kingpong1> will make new gist
<kingpong1> its for #rubyonrails
<ljarvis> I know
<kingpong1> though
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<ljarvis> you need to add the vanue_id as an attribute
<ljarvis> venue
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<ljarvis> that model makes my face hurt
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<jeward> Hi, I am an absolute ruby virgin.
<kingpong1> pass params to method product_counts in product_category.rb doesnt work? Logic error?
<jeward> I'm trying to create my first script from a slide presentation I found.
<jeward> I'm getting a syntax error and don't know enough to determine why.
<jeward> Can I paste my script and have someone have a look?
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<apeiros> jeward: gist.github.com paste it there
<jeward> Thanks!
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<apeiros> jeward: don't forget to paste the exception you get too. in a seperate file (you can paste multiple files in a gist)
<jeward> K.
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<jeward> Is that right?
<jhass> jeward: adapter, not adapter.
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<apeiros> jeward: yes. line 12, as jhass pointed out :)
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<jeward> Oh, it's a comma!
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<apeiros> jeward: in general, with a syntax error, check the code before the reported line (./hosts.rb:12 tells you it's line 12), since a syntax error can cause the problem later
<jeward> Yeah, I already had some of that. The slide used master_config and master_conf.
<jeward> I think I have that corrected.
<jeward> Now I have an unterminated string somewhere...
<jeward> Oh, mismatched quote types!
<ljarvis> line 26
<ljarvis> you got it
<jeward> ./hosts.rb:23: uninitialized constant ActiveRecord (NameError)
<jeward> ?
<ljarvis> puppet/rails obviously doesn't load activerecord?
<jeward> Dunno.
<ljarvis> sure you do
<ljarvis> you just found out
<jeward> Okay, maybe the author typoed that as well?
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<jeward> Is it easy to investigate what uppet/rails provides?
<ljarvis> the author of that code isn't you?
<jeward> Oh no, I'm transcribing it from some slides.
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<jeward> And the slides were fuzzy enough I couldn't tell a period from a comma. :-)
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<foucist> jeward: if you scroll down you'll see the text
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<foucist> altho it'll be missing newlines
<jeward> So it seems the version I have doesn't provide what his did.
<foucist> "ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection(args) Puppet::Rails::Host.all.each { |h| puts "#{h.name}" }"
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<foucist> jeward: you're probably missing some initialization stuff like requires for activerecord and such
<jeward> So it's not complete?
<jeward> Hmmm.
<foucist> slides rarely are :P
<jeward> :-)
<jeward> It's sooooo close!
<jeward> So, at this stage I'd need to study puppet/rails?
<jeward> And see what I'm missing?
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<ljarvis> or just try and load active record and see if it works
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<jeward> What would that syntax be?
<jeward> require?
<foucist> jeward: does require 'puppet/rails' work?
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<jeward> I get no error from it.
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<ljarvis> do you know ruby, jeward?
<jeward> No, this is my first ruby script.
<ljarvis> i ask because if you're intended to write it, you should learn it
<jeward> Well, I thought I'd try it out to decide if I want to learn it.
<jeward> I'm a sysadmin.
<jeward> Other approaches to extracting data from puppet are curling the http API and massaging the resulting json.
<jeward> Just exploring my options.
<foucist> jeward: also try require 'active_record'
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<jeward> Case is insignificant?
<foucist> jeward: but you also need the gems install and such
<foucist> it's significant
<foucist> case sensitive
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<jeward> I tried active_record, ActiveRecord and Active_Record.
<jeward> All failed.
<foucist> jeward: probably need to install it :P
<foucist> did you install puppet etc ?
<jeward> It's an existing install.
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<jeward> I'm just trying to figure out how to get data out of it.
<foucist> jeward: does gem list show puppet, active record etc ?
<foucist> ah
<jeward> Only json (1.5.5)
<foucist> jeward: try bundle exec gem list
<foucist> er
<jeward> Sorry?
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<foucist> jeward: where is this existing install, what directory? you don't want to be in a /gems/ directory
<foucist> and there's probably a Gemfile in the root directory of this project
<foucist> which includes puppet and stuff?
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<jeward> Hold on, phone.
<foucist> you might need to create a new project, install puppet
<foucist> etc
<foucist> gem install puppet
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<cbothner> Is there a more naturally ruby way of writing this pattern: if bool; a && b || c; else; (a && b || c) && d; end. setting aside the ugly semicolons, of course, that conditionally dependant and operator... or am I simply too far gone?
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<whitequark> (a && b || c) && (bool || d)
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<whitequark> but it would do a different thing if bool has side effects
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<cbothner> whitequark: I think that is exactly what I'm looking for, and as it should be, it is retrospectively super obvious.
<cbothner> follow-up question --- stylistically, what's best to do about the long lines that complicated boolean equations can turn in to?
<whitequark> add some intermediate variables
<cbothner> good to know. thanks
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<eam> cbothner: stylistically, I also prefer to use "and" and "or" instead of && and ||
<eam> avoid weird symbols where possible
<apeiros> if and/or had &&/||'s precedence, I'd probably too
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<eam> I generally want the lower precedence - and if it's in an expression where it matters I always use ()
<whitequark> the problem is that and/or have *equal* precedence
<whitequark> and/or are banished from every codebase where I have a say. :p
<apeiros> whitequark: that actually matters almost never to me
<apeiros> if I have and/or mixed, I always use () for explicit precedence
<eam> and/or have equal precedence in ruby?
<eam> either way, always ()
<apeiros> it's more for stuff like: a = b || c
<apeiros> eam: yes
<apeiros> but && and || have different
<eam> well that sucks, I assumed ruby copied the perl operator precedence
<whitequark> && and || are really * and + in disguise
<whitequark> there's nothing surprising about their precedence, given you are aware of basic arithmetic
<eam> the only thing surprising is that ruby beefed precedence for "and"/"or" by making them the same I guess
<whitequark> exactly
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<eam> I'm looking at this precedence table, does ruby not even have xor?
<apeiros> nope, not a logical at least
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<apeiros> errr, not a global/syntax logical at least
<eam> oh well
<apeiros> TrueClass/FalseClass have ^, also Integer
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<apeiros> String sadly misses it :)
* apeiros implemented it using unpack N + unpack C
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<eam> so this goes on the list of things I do differently because ruby is different :)
<apeiros> :)
* apeiros 's toy language doesn't have syntactic &&/||, only and/or
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<apeiros> also precedence table is rather flat
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<ethanwelborn> hi
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<ethanwelborn> is it cool to ask rails questions in here?
<Sigma00> there's a rails channel
<Sigma00> rubyonrails
<apeiros> #rubyonrails is better suited
<ethanwelborn> ah
<ethanwelborn> i was looking for #rails
<ethanwelborn> thanks
<apeiros> #rails redirects there
<apeiros> as does #ror
<apeiros> if you can't join - register your nick and authenticate. see /msg nickserv help register
<ethanwelborn> i was just looking at the channel list is all so filtering by rails brought up nothing
<ethanwelborn> well #rails
<apeiros> sounds like you have a broken client then :-
<apeiros> :-p
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<apeiros> both #rails and #rubyonrails should have showed up
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<prc> Anyone can tell me what's wrong with this piece of code: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xQQrsLYn ? It works when an_elem is 0 or when an an_elem > 4, otherwise I get this: test.rb:2:in `block in count_greater_than': undefined method `+' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)
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<Sigma00> prc: that code sometimes doesn't return anything for count
<Sigma00> which makes it nil
<Sigma00> prc: use count, not inject
<Sigma00> or always return count
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<prc> I want to understand what's going on rather than fix the issue Sigma00. The nil issue appears when it should return something other than 0 (if you except the an_elem == 0 case, in which case it works fine). So, if an_elem > 0 && an_elem < an_array_length I get the above NoMethodError.
<Sigma00> I explained it
<Sigma00> whatever your code returns gets set to count
<Sigma00> you sometimes don't return anything
<Sigma00> so it gets set to nil
<Sigma00> and you can't sum nil
<Sigma00> an_array.inject(0) { |count, elem| elem > an_elem ? count + 1 : count }
<Sigma00> that fixes your issue
<Sigma00> because it returns either the current count, or count + 1
<prc> Sigma00: Got it. Thanks for your answer and patience.
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<gaspar|work> Hello, I have dm-mysql-adapter in my gems list but I still get this error cannot load such file -- dm-mysql-adapter what gives?
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<darix> gaspar|work: the name of the library you have to require is different
<darix> or you shouldnt directly require it
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<darix> but let datamapper pull it by passing the mysql config options
<gaspar|work> darix: I'm not loading it directly
<gaspar|work> The code works fine in production
<gaspar|work> It's just locally I'm having trouble. I can connect to database using terminal "myql -u username -p", I can use Sequel GUI
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<gaspar|work> I have do_mysql and mysql installed
<gaspar|work> but ruby still complaints about dm-mysql-adapter
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<Sigma00> do you have it for all your envs, or just production?
<Sigma00> er, probably nevermind, I've got rails on my mind
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<Theta88> I'm working on a script to scrap youtube search result links, im using the nokogiri gem but im a bit stuck on how to go about storing each href value for use. Any Ideas?
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<Sigma00> a hash of title => href
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<Sigma00> an array of hashes*
<Sigma00> oh oh oh use an array of a hash of an array of an openstruct of a hash
<Sigma00> Theta88: use an array of hashes or an array of an array
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<Theta88> Thanks Sigma, I figured an array of hashes, is there a way i can list each [n] of the hash? My end goal is to be able to select [n] then send a command to vlc to open the link
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<Theta88> Sigma where i was stuck is I don't know how to go about adding videos.each {|link| "#{link['href']}"} into the array
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<Theta88> Sigma00 ^^
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<Theta88> or is videos already an array?
<Sigma00> videos seems to be an array of hashes, yes
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<Theta88> Sigma00: Thanks again! I got it working. I created link_arr = [] then videos.each{|link| link_arr.push("#{link['href']}")}
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