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<nofxx> looking for a gem to help me out with lots of classes, relationships and tons of attributes. With validation. The whole thing doens't save to any db but a option to export in a way to do so is nice. So I was thinking using ActiveModel only. Any new kid on the block?
<nofxx> saw some stuff about POROs recently, but can't remember
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<ryanf> datamapper stuff?
<ryanf> I mean ruby object mapper
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<ryanf> not sure how that works with relationships
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<nofxx> ryanf: well, embedded relantionships
<nofxx> found https://github.com/apotonick/representable , looks solid for Ruby -> XML
<nofxx> just figuring out if it's going to be easy if I want Ruby -> PG or Ruby -> Mongodb
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<nofxx> can store the xml too.. string chunk...and XML -> Ruby
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<nofxx> yea, representable looks the best tool for job
<nofxx> the job*
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<freedrull> what's an inflector
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<kith> is there an obvious reason why this is running particularly slow? http://pastebin.com/wn8j1FVz
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<kith> i'm not sure whether its the script or a network device that is reponding insanely slow but its already running like 6h
<whitequark> strace it
<kith> will do
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<yorickpeterse> morning
<kith> morning
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<yorickpeterse> yay, 300 stars on GH for ruby-lint
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<yorickpeterse> now I can totally apply for YC14
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<tbuehlmann> The page you are looking for is not found. This has been logged and will be remedied as soon as possible...
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<darix> zenspider: 404
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<ljarvis> lol
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<darix> moin ljarvis
<ljarvis> moin moin
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<ngw> Hi *
<ngw> how can I use StringIO with FTP::gettextfile?
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<ngw> I don't know why but it fails with TypeError: no implicit conversion of StringIO into String
<ljarvis> that's because gettextfile expects a string, you're giving it a StringIO
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<ngw> mmm
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<ngw> ljarvis it expects a file actually
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<ljarvis> right :)
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<ngw> seems like a bug to me
<ljarvis> um
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<ljarvis> ngw: it expects a string
<ljarvis> it.. has it right there
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<ljarvis> open(localfile); localfile in your example is a StringIO, it expects a String
<ngw> ah right
<ljarvis> ngw: fwiw File.basename returns a string (maybe that's what confused you)
<ljarvis> but anyway it returns the result, so I think all you need is; @service.gettextfile(remote)
<ljarvis> and that'll return your result
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<workmad3> ngw: StringIO#read is what you'd need btw ;)
<workmad3> ngw: to get the (current) contents of the StringIO as a string :)
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<ljarvis> he doesn't want that look at his code
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<ngw> ljarvis: yes but the problem is that gettextfile saves the file locally
<ngw> which makes StringIO not very useful :p
<ljarvis> right, which is why i said dont use it
<ljarvis> that's just how gettextfile works, it takes a remote file and saves it to a local file, but also returns the file contents
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<ngw> ok so how do I write the remote file content on stringio?
<ljarvis> you cant using that method, but if you read the methods source code it's pretty simple to work out how
<ljarvis> oh right
<ljarvis> you can just pass nil in
<ljarvis> and it'll return a string and not save the file
<ljarvis> (i've no idea why you think you need a StringIO)
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<ljarvis> result = @service.gettextfile(remote, nil)
<ngw> ha
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<ngw> my idea was using /dev/null :p
<ljarvis> D:
<ljarvis> if you look at the code, if show you how it works
<ljarvis> because code
<ljarvis> if also takes an optional block and yields each line to the block
<ljarvis> it^
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<ngw> thanks ljarvis
<whitequark> ARGH
<ljarvis> \o/
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<darix> whitequark: sounds like a fun bug. ;)
<whitequark> if only there was a spec...
<yorickpeterse> that's the joke
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<cout> that's not zenspider standing on the nyse floor, is it?
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<banisterfiend> does anyone know how to record the screen so it picks up audio from both mic and what's going into headphones?
<banisterfiend> (so i can record remote pairing sessions)
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<oddmunds> osx?
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<banisterfiend> oddmunds yes
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<gnufied> basically, I would do what pro startcraft gamers do
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<gnufied> but in your case all you need is looks like soundflower
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<banisterfiend> gnufied thanks, any idea how to get around this error? http://cl.ly/image/2D121n08412t (i'm 10.9 mavericks btw)
<gnufied> "No drops here"
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<gnufied> is that link correct?
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<gnufied> oh yeah
<gnufied> pretty easy to get around. open system preferences and allow from all publishers
<gnufied> System Pref -> "Security and Privacy" -> "Allow all apps"
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<banisterfiend> _rgn that's ok, but it doesn't send the output to my headphones, it just captures everything
<banisterfiend> i need to be able to hear it in my headphones as well
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<ykk`> hey everyone
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<ykk`> so my wayward friend is in jail on rakers and he wants a programming book. they have a computer room for them. but if it's using windows i don't think he'll have user privileges to install ruby
<ykk`> does windows come with something natively like how mac comes with a few options?
<ykk`> rakers = rykers
<whitequark> no
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<cout> what is rykers?
<CaptainJet> Would he be able to use the .7z package?
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<cout> ykk`: colinux might work
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<cout> I can't remember if that requires admin privs
<cout> I don't think it does though
<ykk`> rakers island, google it…. .7z package? i don't know
<DouweM> cout: jail
<CaptainJet> It's just the ruby installation packaged into a .7z archive
<CaptainJet> He'd have to set up file associations himself
<ykk`> a 7zip package doesn't require admin prig? he is a total newb
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<cout> ykk`: oic
<CaptainJet> As long as he has something to extract it with
<ykk`> maybe i'll send him an html book
<CaptainJet> Which is he doesn't he can download an archive of 7-zip
<CaptainJet> There's lots of easy ways of getting around not being able to install things
<cout> does the computer room have internet access?
<cout> if so just get him a shell account
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<darix> ykk`: normally windows can unpack zip files
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<ykk`> cout thats smarft
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<ykk`> this is all good advice thank you
<ykk`> I'm calling the jail now to ask some q's
<manveru> something like https://www.nitrous.io/ might work
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<DouweM> manveru: great idea!
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<cout> I've never called a jail before
<cout> that sounds daunting
<manveru> i thought like 10% of the US is in jail now
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<cout> manveru: at any one point in time?
<manveru> now?
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<CaptainJet> 10% sounds like a bit much?
<cout> also do you mean jail or prison
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<cout> wikipedia says 1% in prison, but it doesn't say anything about jail
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<manveru> they're different?
<cout> jail is more short-term I think
<kith> if i fork a process within ary.each does .each keep iterating while the child process is running, or will it wait till the child is returned?
<cout> like 30 days or so
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<DouweM> cout: yeah
<manveru> ah, looks like that's also different in the US *)
<manveru> ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jail#Security
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<kith> i'd like to try and use multiple CPUs with MRI 1.8
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<manveru> fork?
<darix> kith: use threads?
<cout> darix: not on 1.8
<cout> they are green
<kith> manveru: [19:11:12] <kith> if i fork a process within ary.each does .each keep iterating while the child process is running, or will it wait till the child is returned?
<cout> fork is the way to go
<manveru> it will keep iterating
<kith> thx
<manveru> you have to wait for the child pid at the end though
<kith> so i somehow need to limit number of forks then right?
<manveru> or you risk your process sanity
<ykk`> they have no internet access and no web browsers
<darix> ykk`: and probably not enough space to store a complete ruby install
<whitequark> darix: threads? not even on 1.9/2.0
<ykk`> but i may be able to volunteer to teach them to program!!!!!
<kith> hmm process sanity?
<cout> ykk`: well that would be interesting...
<kith> my process are never sane... :D
<ykk`> 5"8 female teaching inmates ruby
<ykk`> lol
<CaptainJet> ykk`, just what are they expected to do in the computer room then?
<cout> 5inches8? :)
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<kith> :D
<DouweM> ykk`: lol, they said you could volunteer?
<ykk`> word processing and research laws?? its called he law office
<cout> CaptainJet: type letters to people probably
<ykk`> yes I'm .less then a foot tall.. so what?!
<jokar> Hello, In your opinion Peter Cooper book is good or David A black?
<ykk`> she didn't say for sure. i gotta talk to the program director next week
<DouweM> ykk`: that's pretty cool
<cout> jokar: never heard of peter cooper but I'll vouch for david
<ykk`> peter is so good. his naming conventions are so expressive imho
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<CaptainJet> If you teach them some Rails/Sinatra, they may end up with marketable skills by the end of your lessons
<ykk`> yeah thats a good idea captain
<jokar> cout: I guess you learn it by reading ruby Docs
<DouweM> I wonder what the turnover rate of Rikers is
<ykk`> but i would have to teach them ruby first from chris pine, right?
<DouweM> would you have enough time to actually teach the something?
<ykk`> sure, some inmates can be in jail for a year
<ykk`> or years lol
<ykk`> wait not funny
<DouweM> huh, all right
<kith> i would make them write actually useful software
<DouweM> does it look like your friend's going to be inside for that long?
<kith> writing yet another hello world isnt much fun
<DouweM> kith: you gotta start somewhere
<kith> yeah small web application maybe
<DouweM> sure
<DouweM> rebuilding twitter like railstutorial does is pretty cool
<ykk`> he'll be in for another 1.5 months
<ykk`> i gotta send him white t-shirts
<ykk`> *face palm*
<jokar> Thank you for your idea
<jokar> ykk`: Excuse me, When you are free, Can I send Pm to you?
<ykk`> sure
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<yorickpeterse> heh, teaching Ruby in prison
<yorickpeterse> errr jail
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<ykk`> lol yorick, gotta give back to people somehow
<ykk`> wanna come protect me? haha
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<yorickpeterse> I have doubts about customs even letting me in the country so I think I'll pass
<ykk`> hahaha
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<Technodrome> Good day
<ykk`> hi
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<Technodrome> [spoiler]: hey man :)
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<cout> is there an equivalent to File.absolute_path that doesn't expand symlinks?
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<[spoiler]> Technodrome: hey! :D
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<Technodrome> [spoiler]: i'm rocking ruby hard :)
<cout> weird, when I run pwd in zsh, I get a different result than when in irb I run `pwd` or Dir.pwd
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<yorickpeterse> FUCK YEAH, my phone's alarm app is no longer broken
<[spoiler]> haha, as you should!
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<asahi> Not sure if this is the right channel for this but, I'm running a ruby process which uses postgres, and I can see that as a result of it, postgres is using 95% of CPU. Can I start additional ruby processes to finish my task quicker?
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<imperator2> cout, does File.expand_path not do that?
<imperator2> i think i've seen that pwd behavior, can't remember what caused it now, long time ago
<imperator2> probably some mounted filesystem
<imperator2> where one returns your "network" directory, the other your local directory, or somethign like that
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<yorickpeterse> asahi: you're probably running heavy, unoptimized queries
<yorickpeterse> I'd look into that first, starting a second process isn't going to help if Pg is the bottleneck
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<asahi> yorickpeterse: okay good to know. I'll see about optimizing the queries
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<imperator2> given a string ""h\x00e\x00l\x00o\x00W\x00o\x00r\x00l\x00d\x00\x00\x01\x02\x03", how would I get the string up to the first double null using String#[] ?
<apeiros> /\A.*\x00{2}/
<apeiros> or excluding the double null?
<imperator2> excluding the double null
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<apeiros> /\A.*(?=\x00{2})/
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<apeiros> or /\A(.*?)\x00{2}/, 1
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<apeiros> and: forgot the ? in the first variant:
<apeiros> /\A.*?(?=\x00{2})/
<imperator2> nice, thanks
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<imperator2> (and now I can't remember the difference between \A and ^)
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<toretore> \A includes newlines
<toretore> \A = beginning of string, ^ = beginning of line
<imperator2> ah, that was my guess, thanks
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<djash40> hello all
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<djash40> i need some help with some code that used to work but now it does not when moved to a new machine
<djash40> i'm running ruby 1.8.7
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<djash40> opps
<djash40> 1manveru.rb:63: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting '}'
<djash40> params = {key: api_key
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<djash40> 1manveru.rb:63: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting '}'
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<djash40> params = {key: api_key}
<djash40> params = {key: api_key}
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<benwoody> djash40: are you using a ruby version < 1.9.3?
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<djash40> manveru wrote this about 2 years ago
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<djash40> 1.8.7
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<yorickpeterse> key: foo # this is 1.9 syntax
<djash40> i'm not a programmer more of a hack wanna be
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<djash40> lol
<benwoody> 1.8.7 doesn't use the new hash syntax { key: value }. either switch to 1.9 or make it { key => value }
<djash40> how do I upgrade to 1.9?
<djash40> not found in my distro
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<benwoody> depends. there are version managers like rvenv or RVM that can handle that. or just can just compile ruby from source to your machine
<yorickpeterse> djash40: what distro are you using?
<yorickpeterse> also, what is the output of `ruby --version` ?
<djash40> pclinuxos
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<djash40> ruby 1.8.7 (2009-06-12 patchlevel 174) [i586-linux]
<yorickpeterse> hm
<lianj> use rbenv
<yorickpeterse> heh, i586
<yorickpeterse> lol rbenv
<lianj> :D
<yorickpeterse> dem shims
<djash40> yeah old machine
<yorickpeterse> rbenv rehash fuckyou
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<yorickpeterse> djash40: ruby 1.9 is not in any extra repos?
<yorickpeterse> Bit odd that a rolling release doesn't have 1.9
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<djash40> i'll look
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<yorickpeterse> imo using your distro's package manager, if possible, is easier than using some bonkers Ruby version manager
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* lianj likes rbenv
<benwoody> or chruby
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<djash40> not on distro I guess gotta figure how to update it
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<djash40> thank you for pointing me in right direction, appreciated
<toretore> djash40: just use a version manager, it'll make your life easier
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<djash40> what version do you reccomend I try? rvm installed ready to go
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<benwoody> might as well shoot for 2.0.0-p247
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<benwoody> or for a 1.9, get 1.9.3-p448
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<djash40> do i have to reinsall gems for this version rvm?
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<toretore> yes
<toretore> every version has its own gems
<djash40> ok
<djash40> thank you
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<djash40> whoo whoo getting closer
<djash40> runs now and I think the gem missing csv replaced by fastercsv giving me trouble
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<djash40> my log shows this:
<djash40> E, [2013-11-07T17:50:25.727343 #27606] ERROR -- : uninitialized constant CSV (NameError)
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<workmad3> djash40: did you do 'require "csv" ' anywhere?
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<djash40> i see this was just CSV.open
<djash40> FasterCSV.open('/home/backup/scripts/logs/temperature.csv', 'a') do |writer|
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<djash40> changed it to FasterCSV and added the require up top. maybe I need to require csv too. It was there
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<yorickpeterse> FasterCSV isn't needed on > 1.8
<yorickpeterse> you can just use CSV
<yorickpeterse> you have to require it though
<yorickpeterse> require 'csv'
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<djash40> that did it readded require csv and changed fastercsv.open back to csv.open
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<djash40> sweet now to see if temperatures are logging over at thingspeak.com
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<djash40> Thank you all for your help.
<benwoody> djash40: nice!
<djash40> next gotta marry up a little wirless router to the arduino, should be fun.
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<djash40> unrelated to ruby but I'd like to start a bash script when machine boots. cron should work
<djash40> should work
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<djash40> be right back
<djash40> reboot to test
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