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ddfreyne >
So... YAML assumes datetimes without timezone information to be in UTC. Does that make sense?
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ddfreyne >
YAML.load("foo: 2013-11-23 13:00:00") # => {"foo"=>2013-11-23 14:00:00 +0100}
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ddfreyne >
That is annoying :(
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yorickpeterse >
eh, that's not YAML
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yorickpeterse >
that's how Ruby works
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yorickpeterse >
>> require 'time'; Time.parse('2013-11-23 13:00:000')
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yorickpeterse >
>> require 'time'; Time.parse('2013-11-23 13:00:000 UTC')
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ddfreyne >
Time.parse behaves differently
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yorickpeterse >
>> require 'yaml'; YAML.load("foo: 2013-11-23 13:00:00")
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yorickpeterse >
fucking bot
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yorickpeterse >
>> require 'yaml'; p YAML.load("foo: 2013-11-23 13:00:00")
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<
yorickpeterse >
wat
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yorickpeterse >
oh derp, it reads a file for that?
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yorickpeterse >
lol
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ledestin >
pipe.ready? fails for me as no such method. any other way to check for presence of data?
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r0bgleeson >
ledestin: IO.select
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ledestin >
r0bgleeson: I opted for read_nonblock in the end
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yorickpeterse >
oh nice, I can't unsubscribe from ruby-core because the control Email address doesn't exist
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charliesome >
yorickpeterse: here forever
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<
charliesome >
one of us
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yorickpeterse >
there's just too much noise on the list, even with my 10-or-so filters
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yorickpeterse >
would be nice if there was a list that was not linked to Redmine
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<
yorickpeterse >
basically #ruby-lang but via Email
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r0bgleeson >
ruby-forum.com?
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<
yorickpeterse >
that website is shit
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yorickpeterse >
and it has "forum" in it
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yorickpeterse >
I don't like forums
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r0bgleeson >
you can subscribe to non-redmine stuff there
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yorickpeterse >
hmm
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r0bgleeson >
its not a forum but an aggregrate of a ML in a web UI
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yorickpeterse >
charliesome: also what gives with you being in the US nowadays, don't tell me you left your basement for Sillicon valley
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charliesome >
yorickpeterse: visiting
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<
yorickpeterse >
lucky bastard
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r0bgleeson >
if flying for 8+ hours is lucky
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raphinesse >
Hi everyone, I try to determine where a file gets required. I tried to raise an exception in the required file, but nothing happens. However, according to Gem.loaded_specs the gem is loaded. Any Ideas?
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yorickpeterse >
8 hours is hardly anything
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yorickpeterse >
raphinesse: the Gem might be loaded, but said file might not be
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r0bgleeson >
yorickpeterse: i'm a terrible flyer
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raphinesse >
Is a raise on require even possible?
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r0bgleeson >
its like being trapped in hell for 8 hours
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r0bgleeson: stop being the pilot then
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I do have to say that my 14 hour flight to Seoul/Toky was a bit lengthy
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* Tokyo
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raphinesse: sure, a gems spec in Gem.loded_specs just doesn't mean (all) files of a gem are loaded
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especially when my laptop ran out of power
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yorickpeterse: ruby-talk?
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it's a very constrained experience, too much security and waiting around with nothing to do
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oh I usually make a game out of pushing security to the edge :P
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especially Dutch customs are fun
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e.g. one time one of those body scanners showed that supposedly there was a large area of "suspicious" content under my left armpit
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So I got patted down and said something along the lines of "careful, I might have a bomb under my armpit"
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yorickpeterse: would raising in the gemspec be an option then? It's just plain ruby isn't it?
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Tokyo customs scared the shit out of me though
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raphinesse: can't
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raphinesse: it's easier to raise something in hte lib/foo.rb file
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So when I arrived in Tokyo the first thing they did was sniff me with dogs
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while looking very stern at me
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Needless to say I did not try to play any games, so their plan worked :<
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man I miss Japan :<
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yorickpeterse: yeah, that's where I tried to raise. definitely the file that is used for requires. not just any file...
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you might be hitting another file in $LOAD_PATH first
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whitequark: ruby-talk is the one I'm subscribed to
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I think
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wait
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ah derp, that was indeed ruby-core
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ruby-forum.com could use some work but i find it less demanding than e-mail
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Any other ideas on how to find out where a gem is required? grep -r is not so nice since any dependency gem might itself have required the gem in question...
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raphinesse: what problem are you trying to solve?
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(besides finding where a Gem is loaded)
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raphinesse: monkey patch require, check caller
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match against your file, otherwise super
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r0bgleeson: sounds like a plan
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yeah im full of horrible ideas
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yorickpeterse: Basically I suppose some gem is messing with $stdout, and I try to reduce loaded gems to narrow down the suspects
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yorickpeterse: and I can't find the places where some of the loaded gems are required ^^
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messes in what way? patches a method or replaces its value?
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MrZYX: resetting it to STDOUT when it actually should be an instance of Win32Console::Whatever
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r0bgleeson: sounds like it ^^
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monkey patching require breaks everything, guess I'm doing it wrong ^^
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you need to be a little smart about it
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you'll need to keep a reference to the original require
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and call that when you have a miss
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people sometimes use alias_method but i prefer Method objects & closure scope
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r0bgleeson: Is it a method on the Kernel module itself (self.require) or does the module get included into some main context object?
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raphinesse: it is a module function (a singleton method on Kernel and a private instance method as well)
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r0bgleeson: nope, doesn't show anything, neither your nor my version
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r0bgleeson: the same with raising instead of printing
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then require is redefined again or 'coderay' is not being required.
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r0bgleeson: I get the feeling that it never got required, but shows up in Gem.loaded_specs for some other reason
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using bundler?
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MrZYX: yes
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not for running my command right now, but it is required
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then it's very possible that the spec is loaded but the gem not required
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MrZYX: Hm, any other viable solution how I might narrow down gems that could be resposible for messing with $stdout, ie reducing the number of gems I grep -r for $stdout and STDOUT?
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wrap the IO object
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check caller from there
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IOWrap.new($stdout)
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I'd just grep -r $GEM_HOME and grab a coffee
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MrZYX: It's not so much about the time the grep -r takes than about the amount of data I have to process ;)
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grep -RE "\$stdout\s*=" or something like that
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raphinesse: $stdout = IOWrap.new($stdout.dup)
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implement IOWrap to check caller
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r0bgleeson: Unfortunately the "messing with" is replacing :/
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when its written to
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well, if it's really replaced by STDOUT you could replace STDOUT with that wrapper, I just don't think that'll yield less results than a nicely crafted grep
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MrZYX: But wrapping anything would hardly give me the loacation of a simple assignment...
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try grepping for $stdout = STDOUT, that should be pretty unique
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MrZYX: haha, haven't even tried that. I suppose I'm a pessimist for not even trying ^^
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nah, only matches in test cases/helpers. Can I be sure that what was printed as #<IO:<STDOUT>> is always STDOUT?
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My guess was that the replacement would be not as simple ^^
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hm, so maybe look for just "$stdout ="
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yields interesting stuff like $stdout = self.new($stdout) for me :P
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oh or $stdout = IoHackStream.new
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another nice one: STDOUT = $stdout = fake_stdout = StringIO.new
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MrZYX: the last one should at least ensure that everything is captured XD
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well, no, they forgot $stderr :P
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MrZYX: yeah, I assumed only normal output :P
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I'll try the monkeypatching again but simply output every required gem instead
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another idea I'd have is grep -RE '\$stdout[[:space:]]*=' $(bundle exec ruby -e 'print $LOAD_PATH.join(" ")') to make sure to catch all loadable gems
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but now it's bed time for me ;)
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r0bgleeson: BTW, should my version that I posted as a comment to your gist work, too?
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MrZYX: OK, will try that. thx so far
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raphinesse: yeah, alias_method is the old trick for doing the same thing
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r0bgleeson: ok, thx
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r0bgleeson: do you know if the path resolving that require does is available as a stand alone?
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r0bgleeson: because the arguments to require that I printed are not that helpful after all ^^
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its implemented inside ruby, i think rubinius probably has the most open require, so the answer is probably no
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r0bgleeson: hm, thought as much :/
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def can_require?(f) $LOAD_PATH.find { |d| File.exists?(File.join(d, f)) } end
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whitequark: nice one
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we're actually trying to print the callstack from a callsite of require when the path is == "something"
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unless the problem has diverged significantly
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right now I'm trying to get a reliable list of potentially executed code first
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therefore the printing from require
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can_require?() isn't the best way to do that
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since Gem.loaded_specs turned out to be not as helpful
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you can collect stats from require itself
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as your code runs
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that's waht I'm doing
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but the paths passed to require are not that helpful either
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they're relative yeah
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so now I'm trying to figure out the absolute paths
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gotcha.
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so modifing can_require? to return the first match should do the trick
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for certain
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it already does
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it returns nil or the path, so path + relative.
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yeah, just noticed ^^
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curiously there's 12 times where require returned true but can require returned nil o.O
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aah, the optional ".rb"
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r0bgleeson: Interesting. What about super instead of Kernel.require?
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that wont work
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there's no super to go to
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yeah, I don't quite get that ^^ Saw it working in contexts where I didn't thought it would
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raphinesse: the self is different, it is resolved from main#require (instance method) who resolves to Kernel#require who usually implements that method. you can't go back any further because no implementation exists. Kernel.require belongs to another self/object.
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r0bgleeson: OK, makes sense
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Argh, there are exactly two matches for `grep -Ins '\$stdout[[:space:]]*=' REQUIRED_FILES`. And none qualifies -_-
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