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I'm using thin to start a rails app, but the app uses a custom GEM_PATH, how can I tell thin to add that environment variable?
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frank_o >
Hi, I'm new to Ruby. Instead of doing like puts "Doing something..."; sleep(5); puts "Done", how do I append " done" to the existing puts?
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frank_o >
All I got so far is my_str = "Doing something..."; puts my_str; sleep(5); my_str << " done"
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FiXato >
frank_o, use 'print' instead :)
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FiXato >
print "blaat"; sleep 3; print "hello"
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frank_o >
FiXato: Ooh, nice!
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frank_o >
Thanks a lot
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FiXato >
no problem :)
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maloik_ >
friday <3
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maloik_ >
stands for "french fries" (but the real, belgian version of course)
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ljarvis >
belgian fries?
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ljarvis >
flemmish fries
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maloik_ >
it's actually flemish
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maloik_ >
double m sounds so... lemming
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maloik_ >
but yes pretty much
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new ruby-lang site is quite nice
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I'm happy jason zimdars got involved, the other proposals I'd seen were not exactly masterworks imo
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maloik_ >
haha, ljarvis remember that Proc output I was getting a while back ?
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maloik_ >
in a scope
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ddfreyne >
yay belgian fries!
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ddfreyne >
Haven't had any in a long time :(
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jrobeson >
i've heard about these belgian fries
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jrobeson >
one day i will have one
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maloik_ >
early october, arrrrcamp
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maloik_ >
welcome to join us :)
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jrobeson >
well being that they are belgium fries.. it sounds like this camp thing is in europe
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jrobeson >
tis a bit of a walk
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jrobeson >
how big is that water thing?
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maloik_ >
not very big
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maloik_ >
but take a ship
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maloik_ >
you'll fit right in
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not very big? hah :)
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We do have a fair few americans coming over (assuming that you are indeed american?)
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ddfreyne >
I've been to arrrcamp a few times
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ddfreyne >
Before it became a paid conference
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ddfreyne >
Because I didn't have moneys.
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ljarvis >
maloik_: ahaha
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jrobeson >
that big water thing is 6189.36
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maloik_ >
was just going to ask, real units or freedom units
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you folks probably have fancy companies that pay for this stuff right?
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maloik_, :)
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maloik_ >
ljarvis: don't you dare rub it in my face not to use squeel :-(
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jrobeson >
i thought it'd be best to present you units in which you are most familiar with
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ljarvis >
im not sure that makes a company fancy, it can be an investment
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jrobeson >
it's just me here
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ljarvis >
maloik_: srsly, you knew it was going that way, I didn't need to do it
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jrobeson >
so.. most companies are fancy :)
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maloik_ >
no way you can deduct conferences from the taxes ?
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jrobeson >
just dude and a computer
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jrobeson >
sure.. but i doubt it would generate enough return on investment to justify spending the moeny in the first place
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jrobeson >
if i had said money
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ddfreyne >
I could go to arrrrcamp next year, maybe.
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jrobeson >
if i was gonna go to a conference rubyconf miami would have been cheaper
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maloik_ >
Well I doubt anyone really gets a noticeable 'return' on a conference
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jrobeson >
i'll have to see what happens when i get back to portland.. probably some conferences up there
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maloik_ >
unless you get customers etc
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ljarvis >
i may go again next year with the whole team, we need to pick a team conf
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maloik_ >
but it's mostly about learning a bit, getting inspired and motivated
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jrobeson >
yeah i could use some motivation
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jrobeson >
i think i'll start with user groups when i get back to portland
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maloik_ >
ljarvis: nordic ruby is fantastic for teams as well imo
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maloik_ >
well for anyone, but it's special if you go with a bunch as it's more like a teambuilding kind of thing thne in their fancy spa :-)
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ljarvis >
maloik_: cool thanks, will probably organize it relatively soon
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zenspider >
you just missed cascadia ruby in pdx
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jrobeson >
zenspider, are you in pdx?
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gnufied >
maloik_: lol
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gnufied >
re- the puts
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ddfreyne >
I haven't been using Ruby a lot lately though.
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maloik_ >
gnufied: I know right :( had us puzzled for some time, though we didn't look into it deeply until yesterday or so
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maloik_ >
well, my colleague did
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jrobeson >
ruby is in a weird place now
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maloik_ >
why is that ?
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gnufied >
I can guess what is coming..
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jrobeson >
stuff like rubinus x is concerning
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jrobeson >
and lots of people ready for new challenges who were stalwarts in the community
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maloik_ >
I think that's just certain loud people that make you think that ;-)
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gnufied >
rubinius was nice and awesome. but if it didn't get anywhere with corporate backing, I doubt rubinius-x will go anywhere
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maloik_ >
by loud I mean influential, vocal
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jrobeson >
i doubt rubinus x will go anywhere either
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maloik_ >
check slide check slide 127
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jrobeson >
i watched part of that.. the part where they were talking about organization stuff
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maloik_ >
and the next couple
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maloik_ >
it's so true
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jrobeson >
err he was
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jrobeson >
i didn't know they got into the tech stack later
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jrobeson >
i found the organization stuff most interesting
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jrobeson >
cool to see how somethign evolves
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maloik_ >
yea I liked the talk, was interesting to see
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zenspider >
jrobeson: no. seattle
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jrobeson >
oh seattle .. they got a pretty big group up there
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zenspider >
so I hear
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zenspider >
jrobeson: cascadia ruby conf will be back in pdx next year
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zenspider >
octoberish
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jrobeson >
maloik_, i just watched the life talk.. didn't know where the slides were :(
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jrobeson >
on the site where the live talk was hosted.. they wanted me to sign in to view the slides.. i should have looked elsewhere!
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jrobeson >
there was one article i still have booked by one of those github folks .. i think it was anarchism
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jrobeson >
i wonder where i shoved that off to
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maloik_ >
check holman's blog, he does a fair few posts on GH's organization
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maloik_ >
I think it may well have been him
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yorickpeterse >
morning
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maloik_ >
super nice guy too
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jrobeson >
why don't i see slide numbers on speakdeck?
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jrobeson >
i guess i've been seeing too many slides on slideshare
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maloik_ >
hover the progress bar
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jrobeson >
i like how it's easy to just type a number in slideshare :(
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ddfreyne >
slideshare is meh.
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jrobeson >
it's really heavy on the resources :(
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jrobeson >
i just like how you can type in the slide number in the box..
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jrobeson >
maloik_, when it comes to trendy languages and databases.. i'm not much of a trend follower.. i still get jobs in php even..
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jrobeson >
the trendiest thing i use is redis
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mikecmpbll >
i wear flares
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jrobeson >
i really like redis .. it's fun
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jrobeson >
too bad psubscribe still has no timeout :(
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jrobeson >
make me wanna switch over to using pusher or something :(
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maloik_ >
I actually found a use for Go for us
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maloik_ >
but it'll be a while before I find the time to get cracking
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ddfreyne >
My next project is going to be a Go one :)
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ljarvis >
I enjoy writing go
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ddfreyne >
I've used it in a few personal projects, but this one would be my first professional one.
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jrobeson >
there's your trendy languages :)
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i know.. rewrite ruby in go..
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maloik_ >
ugh d3js is causing me to love and hate it at the same time each time I have to use it
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mikecmpbll >
tbh it doesn't excite me in the slightest
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chris2 >
why does ruby parse fp itself?
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heftig >
chris2: fp?
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lupine >
floating-point, probably
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lupine >
it's a fun little bug. syck doesn't seem vulnerable
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darix >
the topic is majorly outdated
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yorickpeterse >
lol?
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darix >
the security message is just confusing
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darix >
it said prior 43780
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darix >
but there are more commits involved it seems
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darix >
that one too
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ljarvis >
i want my xbox to hurry up and arrive
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tbuehlmann >
just to notice it's broken? aw, sorry, jinxd it..
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workmad3 >
is there an xbox function similar to the ps4 pulsating blue dickpunch of sadness then?
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workmad3 >
*malfunction
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ljarvis >
yeah, but they didn't put any lights on it, so instead you can just call it "fucked"
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workmad3 >
ah, so with the xbox you get a change of either an xbox one or an xbox brick...
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ljarvis >
lots of people saying it just makes a grinding noise and wont play games
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ljarvis >
i wonder if console releases will ever be smooth
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ledestin >
MS is famous for this
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ledestin >
not Sony
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darix >
ljarvis: i found it more amusing that the so called next gen consoles can only run medium settings compared to the same game on the PC
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darix >
and that already on release
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ljarvis >
ledestin: lol what?
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ljarvis >
ledestin: sony have fucked up the last 2 releases too
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ljarvis >
darix: yeah, console gaming will never compete with pc though
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ljarvis >
darix: i think everyone just accepts that
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ledestin >
ljarvis: maybe. I was thinking more of problems with them all the way
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darix >
ljarvis: i would agree on longterm
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ljarvis >
my xbox has been fine for 5 years
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darix >
but at release they could add for something higher than medium settings imho
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ljarvis >
darix: you have to download a patch to play ps4 some games at 1080p :D (and the option isn't even available for xbox)
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ledestin >
when I researched PS3, one of the factors of choosing it was that 360 too often had rings of death
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ljarvis >
ledestin: didn't ps3 have the yellow light of fuck or something? but yeah i know 360's red-ring'ed more often
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darix >
ledestin: after researching consoles i sticked to the PC ;)
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ljarvis >
I can't use windows.. so there's that
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ledestin >
ljarvis: maybe. but for xbox, some people were on their 3rd xbox because of problems. prominent.
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ljarvis >
i guess i was a lucky one
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darix >
ljarvis: let's just hope steam gives linux gaming some momentum
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ljarvis >
darix: yeah, the steambox looks interesting too
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andrewvos >
I'm using supervisord to spawn a rails app... Why can't supervisord see my bundle?
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andrewvos >
Wait does supervisord not inherit env variables?
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darix >
andrewvos: huh?
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andrewvos >
darix: By bundle I meann the bundler bundle command
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darix >
andrewvos: try with full path to bundle
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andrewvos >
darix: Ok. Hmm
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andrewvos >
darix: Wonder what that'll be
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darix >
andrewvos: you should know your system hm?:p
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darix >
if you use something like rvm/rbenv there might be something that you can call in your supervisord script before calling bundler
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andrewvos >
darix: I'm using docker so it's a bit painful to work that out
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andrewvos >
darix: Yeah but then I'm installing extra shit I won't ever need on this box
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darix >
andrewvos: i said
*if* you are using it
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andrewvos >
I know I'm just rationalizing
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darix >
i am sure you can get a console on the docker container
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darix >
and look up the path and such
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andrewvos >
Doing that now
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lol, nice..
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yorickpeterse >
In today's news: having one page show the latest value and a report show an average may or may not be confusing to users
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also EditorConfig is pretty baller
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yorickpeterse >
clearly we need more Jenkins servers
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andrewvos >
Still installing jenkins yorickpeterse?
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andrewvos >
Didn't you start like a year ago ;)
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andrewvos >
Senoir Jenkins Configuration Manager
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<
andrewvos >
Senior Jenkins Configuration Manager
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yorickpeterse >
No it's working fine
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yorickpeterse >
we're using it
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maloik_ >
yorickpeterse: do you use gitlab or github ? or something else
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yorickpeterse >
latter
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yorickpeterse >
(github)
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maloik_ >
k, was gonna ask what you use to build feature branches if it was gitlab
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maloik_ >
trying to figure out what we're gonna use to do that
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maloik_ >
mostly a bit of a mess because of configs and databases, so we might switch overto gitlab CI
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yorickpeterse >
we don't heavily use feature branches
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maloik_ >
just need to find the time to grab one of the ops folks to set it up
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maloik_ >
we've just started to
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mostly as a way to review code and to stay up to date on parts of the apps you don't really touch
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ljarvis >
lolgitlab
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maloik_ >
whats wrong with gitlab :(
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maloik_ >
I love gitlab
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maloik_ >
if it werent for our 150 repo's I'd use github, but alas...
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ljarvis >
surely most of those can go in a fat server in grandma's basement
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yorickpeterse >
maloik_: only 150?
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yorickpeterse >
132 for $WORK, 48 for a joint $WORK effort thing
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yorickpeterse >
we had more than that actually
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yorickpeterse >
but I moved some to a repo called "graveyard" since they were no longer maintained/used
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yorickpeterse >
7 repos there left to die
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maloik_ >
yorickpeterse: so how much do you pay github ?
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maloik_ >
thats crazy expensive isnt it ?
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yorickpeterse >
we're on the 450 USD plan
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maloik_ >
lol the top number on the pricing page is 125
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maloik_ >
at 200 per months
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yorickpeterse >
The other plan is the 200 USD one, but that's funded by the EU I believe
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maloik_ >
definately saves us money to use gitlab then
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yorickpeterse >
(EU project)
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yorickpeterse >
eh, neg
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yorickpeterse >
you'd be hosting it yourself, you'd have to pay for the servers, the people, maintenance, etc
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maloik_ >
we're a hosting company
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yorickpeterse >
Yeah in that case it would probs be cheaper
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maloik_ >
I get that in your case it's probably not worth it
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maloik_ >
for us it's nearly a nobrainer
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yorickpeterse >
which reminds me, I still need to blag about our Jemkins
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and I still need to set up a $WORK blag to begin with
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mikecmpbll >
we just use git and a VPS ..
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maloik_ >
we used to do that (actually it had gitorous) but it was crap
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maloik_ >
having gitlab is a major advantage
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maloik_ >
it's so pretty! :D
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mikecmpbll >
lol :`
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mikecmpbll >
never needed anything fancier.
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maloik_ >
seriously though, I love having the webinterface, especially for things like issues and merge requests
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yorickpeterse >
gitorious is nice for small sizes
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darix >
yorickpeterse: was nice
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darix >
i highly doubt it will see much more development
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darix >
and simple things like accepting pull requests are still pita with it
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yorickpeterse >
well yeah, I'm talking about maybe 5 repositories
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yorickpeterse >
1-2 devs
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maloik_ >
well if you have 5 you may as well use a github micro account
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maloik_ >
then it's definately not worth it ;)
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<
yorickpeterse >
beer
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<
yorickpeterse >
fak
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yorickpeterse >
* beer 'o block
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yorickpeterse >
FSALDKAS:DLKASD
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yorickpeterse >
clock
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* yorickpeterse
hasn't had beer yet
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* |jemc|
also hasn't had beer yet because he's only now arrived at work
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* |jemc|
has to at least wait until lunch break
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|jemc| >
my mistake
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onewheelskyward >
:D
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broke a wineglass
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then tried to convince people he's never been drunk
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yorickpeterse >
*ever*
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hahuang65 >
Are there alternative ways to get an instance variable other than instance_variable_get?
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MrZYX >
maybe, depends on your usecase. What's wrong with instance_variable_get?
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MrZYX: fucking Mongoid causes a query when I do instance_variable_get on a isntance variable named after a relationship
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hahuang65 >
MrZYX: say Site has_many Users and User belongs to Site.
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hahuang65 >
when I do site.users, I would expect a query, but not when I do site.instance_variable_get("@users")
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ugh, it overrides instance_variable_get? bummer
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hahuang65 >
MrZYX: isn't that fuckin retarde?
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hahuang65 >
do you know any other way to access an instance variable
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MrZYX >
so you Own the Site class?
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hahuang65 >
MrZYX: what do you mean "you own the site class"?
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just add a getter: def users_instance_variable; @users; end
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MrZYX >
are you able/allowed to add methods to its definition
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hahuang65 >
MrZYX: yeah
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hahuang65 >
MrZYX: oh, -___- LOL lemme try that
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hahuang65 >
MrZYX: fuckin hell, that still calls the query lol
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MrZYX >
are you really sure you're not triggering the query somewhere else?
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MrZYX >
afaik you can't hook methods into instance variable calls
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hahuang65 >
apparently the instance variable
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hahuang65 >
is a Criteria object that is lazily evaluated
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hahuang65 >
that's why
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hahuang65 >
fuckers
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Mon_Ouie >
You're trying to break the abstraction provided by the class you're using, things are bound to go wrong
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Mon_Ouie >
Check if the library you're using provides a lower level API instead
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matti >
Mon_Ouie: <3
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yorickpeterse >
Any Vimmers here that ever used Vundle?
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Mon_Ouie >
'alut matti
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yorickpeterse >
that's somewhat...ironic
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yorickpeterse >
huh, but in Chrome's pr0n mode it does work
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mistym >
It works for me in in Firefox, not getting a 403
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yorickpeterse >
oh neat, and it fails to retrieve the latest commit for my dotfiles too
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yorickpeterse >
I think Github is borken
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r0bgleeson >
Mon_Ouie salut
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r0bgleeson >
yorickpeterse I'm getting that too
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Mon_Ouie >
Hi robanister
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r0bgleeson >
hehehe
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r0bgleeson >
we're in the airport
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r0bgleeson >
flying home, yesssssh
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yorickpeterse >
r0bgleeson: hmm
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yorickpeterse >
seems to be working now
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r0bgleeson >
i got it randomly on a number of diff pages
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r0bgleeson >
yorickpeterse how's the weather in holland? cold?
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yorickpeterse >
Hilversum/NL: Overcast | Temperature: 40.3F/4.6C | Humidity: 79% | Wind: Calm
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yorickpeterse >
so typical Dutch for the time of the year
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r0bgleeson >
not too terrible
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drbrain >
woo, preview2 is on its way!
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havenwood >
nice, FRIDAY & PREVIEW2 \o/
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hahuang65 >
anyone know how to get the results of the accepts_nested_attributes objects that were created as opposed to what was already in the relationship?
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cschneid >
Is there an example of the heap overflow out in the wild yet? I want to block nasty looking stuff at the firewall while getting a reasonable upgrade story going for our many servers.
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drbrain >
cschneid: no example that I've heard of
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kith >
whats the best way to only spawn as many processes as i have cores?
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cschneid >
typically those land in a day or two on metasplit & friends right?
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drbrain >
cschneid: it's possible someone is working on one now
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kith >
when i iterate through an array and spawn a process for each element?
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drbrain >
cschneid: but AFAIK, only the DoS is known
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cschneid >
ok, so perhaps DoS for now, with a reasonable chance of it being upgraded to code execution later on
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drbrain >
cschneid: that's my understanding
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