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<|jemc|>
anybody have any techniques for testing race conditions in my tests to avoid future regressions?
<|jemc|>
for example, if object x responds to :stimulus_a and :stimulus_b
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<|jemc|>
but the two could cause a race condition if not implemented correctly
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<|jemc|>
my current technique is to spawn two threads, each sending the given stimulus after a Thread.pass
<|jemc|>
and join them both
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<|jemc|>
and repeat this a hundred or so times
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<|jemc|>
anybody have any helpful hints to share on this matter?
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<freedrull>
is weechat good
<freedrull>
Due to a limitation of Ruby (15 arguments max by function), the function Weechat.config_new_option receives the callbacks in an array of 6 strings (3 callbacks + 3 data strings), so a call to this function looks like:
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<imperator>
presumably there are sane defaults, so you wouldn't actually need all 20 :)
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<rue>
|jemc|: You can’t simulate/provoke a race condition because you can’t really guarantee one to happen… you could possibly check the places where you know shared mutation happens by deliberately causing sequential operations in the wrong sequence
<rue>
Or things like injecting a sleep into a thread
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<|jemc|>
rue: yeah, that's pretty much the problem I'm facing. Even if I try to simulat it hundreds of times in the way I described, any test failures I get are real negatives, but there's no guarantee that a test sucess (no corruption from the race condition) is not a a false positive
<|jemc|>
I was hoping somebody had a clever trick for me, but it sounds like any solution would be prohibitively complex
<|jemc|>
including inserting sleeps between operations as your said, and timing the code concurrencies to fall in each possible pattern of interlocking sleep
<|jemc|>
but doing so on an arbitrary black-box object would require lots of monkey-patching and iteration - an undertaking likely to be far more complex than the actual problem faced by any particular case
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<rue>
You should probably just fix the source of the problem ;)
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<|jemc|>
yup, sounds like it; I just worry about regressions :/
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<rue>
Just rewrite in haskell
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<|jemc|>
heh
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<slash_nick>
Guys, I'm really curious about what's going on here: https://eval.in/71681 ... it's neat, but I don't understand what's going on
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<retro|cz>
slash_nick, what's your expectation?
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<retro|cz>
it's self referenced hash
<slash_nick>
one deep
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<slash_nick>
one deep or stack overflow... interested in knowing why it doesn't overflow, retro|cz
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<ljarvis>
morning
<ljarvis>
"We noticed that your AWS spend for November has spiked above what you’ve spent with us in the past. We appreciate your business and wanted to make sure the charges were expected. As of November 19th, your estimated monthly charges are $2.00, and based on your current usage, we estimate that your spend for November may exceed $4.00."
<ljarvis>
I lol'd
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<maloik_>
I racked up a 18$ bill somehow a while back
<maloik_>
on something I didn't use
<maloik_>
kind of just let it go, the card on that account was invalid anyway
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<ljarvis>
heh
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<ljarvis>
that's my irc box.. i spent 4 dollars speaking to you lot
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<yorickpeterse>
"Why the fuck is X not logged....oh shit I used the wrong filter"
<yorickpeterse>
Thursday morning derps
<ljarvis>
you have derps every morning
<dominikh>
ljarvis: aww, 4 dollars to talk to me, that's great
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<ljarvis>
yeah
<ljarvis>
money well spent....
<ljarvis>
:-/
<dominikh>
I agree.
<dominikh>
I spend 20 to talk to you and receive stupid email, so yeah... you win
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<ljarvis>
I would say you win because you get to talk to me
<yorickpeterse>
either way, I definately can not recommend Salesforce
<yorickpeterse>
it's honestly making me cry how dumb this platform is
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<imperator>
ljarvis, the semantics for the 2nd argument for realpath and realdirpath are kinda weird
<yorickpeterse>
The docs are also fucking worthless
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<imperator>
a crappy oracle product? shocking
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<manveru>
yorickpeterse: the more PR a product has, the worse it usually is
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<yorickpeterse>
This piece of shit is everything that's bad about the whole UML/herp-derp-java crap of the past 2 decades
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<yorickpeterse>
it wouldn't be so bad if I could actually get something done but I'm just deadlocked between shitty docs, lacking APIs and the right buttons (that should *let* me do this) not being there
<yorickpeterse>
I'm logged in as a super admin for christ's sake
* yorickpeterse
bangs head
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<manveru>
well, at least somebody tried to make docs for it :)
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<manveru>
i'm spending half a year now deciphering a black box format
<yorickpeterse>
"Only Developer Edition, Sandbox, and Trial organizations have the ability to create, edit, and delete Apex classes and triggers directly in the Salesforce CRM user interface." FUCK
<yorickpeterse>
Well, I guess that means I get to tell people here that I can't do shit
<manveru>
developer edition?
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<yorickpeterse>
I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure we don't have that
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<manveru>
hm
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<workmad3>
manveru: at least no docs don't give you a false sense of hope
<manveru>
hehe
<manveru>
true that
<workmad3>
manveru: you're forced to look at the actual behaviour, rather than living the pipe-dream that the docs are describing shit that really happens (instead of some made up shit that the devs scrawled 2 years before release)
<yorickpeterse>
where does the java code come from? How does this tie in to the API? What if I don't want Java/C#? etc
<manveru>
an url with convertlead, yay
<yorickpeterse>
just give me a fucking URL that I can POST to
<yorickpeterse>
I don't care if it's SOAP, REST or YAML with embedded Ruby exploits
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<yorickpeterse>
I *could* probably use their pseudo-sql stuff to do all this manually but then I'll be shaving 15 yaks while shooting myself in the foot with a chainsaw
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<manveru>
well, if you find their WSDL, that should have all the call urls
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<imperator>
yorickpeterse, obviously you didn't spend enough money
<manveru>
workmad3: well, i learned an awful lot more than i ever wanted to know... plus job security for a few years :P
<workmad3>
manveru: :)
<manveru>
just hope i never meet the guy who came up with this format ever
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<yorickpeterse>
imperator: yeah, as if the 5 billion dollars we pay a month weren't enough already
<yorickpeterse>
Worst bit is that somewhere somebody is jerking off every time they open salesforce while screaming "HNNNGGGGG APPPPEEEEX"
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<yorickpeterse>
if I were at home I would literally be screaming now, but I'm in an office
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<yorickpeterse>
and if I go to the hallway I'll wake up all the lawyers
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<yorickpeterse>
at least my music is pretty calm so far
<yorickpeterse>
AHA
<yorickpeterse>
FOUND IT
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<yorickpeterse>
I have to go to the fucking dev console and *THERE* I can apparently create stuff
<yorickpeterse>
+1 for the docs being incorrect
<yorickpeterse>
"Can not create Apex Class on an active organization" FFFFFFFFF
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<yorickpeterse>
I should probably get myself an inflatable baseball bat
<yorickpeterse>
so I can either hit myself or a wall with it in these cases
<ljarvis>
...
<ljarvis>
or a real one that we can all hit you with
<ljarvis>
so you stfu
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<yorickpeterse>
kinky
<yorickpeterse>
I'd be up for that
<yorickpeterse>
rawr
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<nofxx>
What's the trick (or what I'm missing) to load the code relative, from lib, when I run bin/mygem , and works nice when installed from rubygems? Bad practice to $LOAD_PATH.unshift << lib ?
<drbrain>
nofxx: require_relative
<drbrain>
nofxx: plain require works if you ruby -Ilib bin/mygem
<nofxx>
drbrain: bin/mygem just require_relative ?
<drbrain>
$LOAD_PATH.unshift 'lib' is frowned upon
<drbrain>
require_relative '../lib/mygem' from bin/mygem
<nofxx>
drbrain: got it, thank you sir
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