#ruby-lang on 2013-12-24 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-11-22 18:08 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p353: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p484) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks

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07:47 <whitequark> any of you know a working DNS library with support for SPF?

07:47 <whitequark> Net::DNS won't read SPF records for some obscure reasons

07:48 <whitequark> Dnsruby is simply broken (answer.rrset(...) always returns [])

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09:02 <maloik_> whitequark: could tweet @aeden, perhaps he knows

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09:20 <gnufied> whitequark: have you looked at - https://github.com/ioquatix/rubydns

09:21 <gnufied> thats what I used in invoker. but I didn't need support SPF records

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09:29 <whitequark> gnufied: it's a dns server

09:30 <whitequark> oh, right, it has an EventMachine-based resolver

09:30 <whitequark> but I don't use eventmachine so...

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09:33 <gnufied> it can pull dns records as well

09:33 <gnufied> but yeah if EM is a deal breaker, so it is

09:34 <gnufied> http://www.codeotaku.com/projects/rubydns/documentation/dns-verification/index.en

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10:11 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: ping

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10:17 <whitequark> yorickpeterse: pong

10:21 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: abstract question, why would one pick a PEG parser (e.g. kpeg) over the more common lexer + LL/LALR/LR parser?

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10:24 <yxhuvud> well, one reason is that there are some parses that cannot be parsed with LL/LR parsers that peg can parse.

10:24 * yxhuvud is slowly porting the marpa parser to ruby

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10:27 <whitequark> yorickpeterse: peg is kinda easier to use

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10:28 <whitequark> but it can have undesirable time/space complexity

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10:30 <whitequark> marpa looks interesting

10:30 <yorickpeterse> hm

10:31 <yorickpeterse> Right thanks, I have to holler. Christmas activities, yay

10:31 <yorickpeterse> at least I get to code on a train for two hours

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10:35 <yxhuvud> whitequark: I went with reimplementing it from scratch, since I couldn't get the library to build. fighting with cpan only to end up with a syntax error in a configure is not my thing. especially not since the code was utterly unreadable (literate programming => unreadable code base)

10:36 <yxhuvud> so now i'm fighting with beasts like transforming the grammar to nihilist normal form :D

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15:22 <rob_> is it possible to pretty/awesome print a tree of nested classes as if they were nested hashes? by adding to_hash or inspect methods to each class maybe?

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15:56 <|jemc|> of course it's possible :P

15:56 <|jemc|> you just may have to work at it a bit

15:56 <|jemc|> you're on the right track though

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15:57 <|jemc|> heh, he's gone

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16:11 <rob_> hi

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16:15 <rob_> |jemc|: so my current approach is to add to_hash method

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16:16 <rob_> argh, lag...

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16:17 <rob_> |jemc|: so my current approach is to add to_hash method to each class and then alias inspect/to_s to it

16:17 <rob_> which seems to almost work

16:18 <DouweM> rob_: what's your expected in- and output? both because i'm curious and because I may be of help

16:18 <rob_> but i dont get an entirely nested hash situation for some reason

16:19 <rob_> DouweM: the input is hash data

16:19 <rob_> the output i woudl like to be hash data too

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22:30 <robonerd> http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/12/24/1826204/is-ruby-dying

22:31 <lianj> finally.

22:31 <lianj> also, node.js, …

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22:58 <pipecloud> robonerd: Rails is dead. RIP.

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22:59 <matp> sharing a grave with freebsd!

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