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<NemesisD>
hey guys. is it safe for an enumerator's size to "lie"
<NemesisD>
i'm doing something like to_enum(:iterate_by_ids, search_ids) { search_ids.length }
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<NemesisD>
the enumerator may actually yield fewer than that many times, but i don't want it to have to walk the whole enumerator start to finish, throwing away results to get the count, then walk through again for the yielded values
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<bcardarella>
when I pass a block and call it later from another class should the scope of that block still have access to the methods from where it was created or just the local variables?
<r0bgleeson>
bcardarella: self should be the same from where it was called.
<r0bgleeson>
sorry, created
<bcardarella>
ok, thanks
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<whitequark>
bcardarella: unless someone invokes it with instance_exec.
<bcardarella>
whitequark: that's what is happening. I found a workaround though
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<hakunin>
I've been staring at the C source for a while and I can't figure out why Hash#has_key? is always slightly slower (~18%) than Hash#[]?
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<hakunin>
anyone has any insight?
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<ohsix>
is it still that slow when you know the key is in the hash already?
<hakunin>
the only difference I see is st_lookup is called with 0 or with empty value structure respectively
<ohsix>
i don't know ruby in particular, but i do know that one operation implies a hash operation while the other may imply a search
<hakunin>
ohsix: i was just running artificial benchmarks
<ohsix>
oh, no idea then, see: not knowing ruby
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<hakunin>
ohsix: according to source the difference is only a value passed by reference vs 0 placeholder, and also the has_key returns Qtrue/Qfalse while Hash#[] just returns the value
<hakunin>
ohsix: by my own logic i'd think the same
<hakunin>
ohsix: but has_key mostly is the same exact thing as getting a value
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<yorickpeterse>
scumbag MRI re-implemented Date in C
<r0bgleeson>
thats right
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<r0bgleeson>
the sequel guy worked on it, i believe
<r0bgleeson>
the pure ruby implementation was slow enough to be a bottleneck
<yorickpeterse>
bit sad if you have to write stuff in C because your Ruby impl is too slow, but that might be just me
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<r0bgleeson>
yorickpeterse: you could look at it many different ways
<yorickpeterse>
I see C as a disgusting pile of shit
<r0bgleeson>
i dont think MRI is going to turn into rubinius over night, so to get rid of a bottleneck using C makes sense
<r0bgleeson>
why?
<yorickpeterse>
I'm not saying it should, but I would focus on making my implementation faster as doing so brings bigger benefits
<r0bgleeson>
MRI is getting faster and better
<r0bgleeson>
if you had a bug but you'd need to make your whole implementation X times faster which may take at least a year, wouldn't you just write it in C instead?
<yorickpeterse>
No, I would focus on fixing the actual problem
<yorickpeterse>
since that one case might be better, but there's 10 other cases where it will affect people
<r0bgleeson>
well, i have no idea what the Date bottleneck was
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<r0bgleeson>
but it was considerably slower
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<r0bgleeson>
thats true
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<eval-in>
yorickpeterse => /tmp/execpad-220ec2cb1d2b/source-220ec2cb1d2b:2: warning: wrong element type Fixnum at 0 (expected array) ... (https://eval.in/81529)
<yorickpeterse>
wait what
<yorickpeterse>
oh, that only gives the values
<yorickpeterse>
derp
<yorickpeterse>
either way, you can use Hash.[] to build a new hash based on an array
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<jtoy>
im surprised ruby dones thave something native
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<MrZYX>
what's your usecase?
<jtoy>
i have an options hash that can have a subset sent to another function
<MrZYX>
why would it harm the other method to receive additional values in the hash?
<jtoy>
i dont want to type oout :blah opts[:blah] :foo opts[:foo], i am on rails though so wil ltry that
<MrZYX>
if you're on rails, as I said there's Hash#slice
<havenwood>
Am I missing something with how to use the new Ruby 2.1 refinements at the toplevel like you could in 2.0? Or is this just not impossible at the moment? https://gist.github.com/havenwood/8060187
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<havenwood>
s/impossible/possible
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