apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p353: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p484) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks
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<|jemc|> is there a way in MRI to trace the execution of a few lines through the C code?
<|jemc|> tracer doesn't seem to be actually showing me the C api calls
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<epitron> gdb? :)
<epitron> perhaps if you're on OSX of Solaris, you could use dtrace?
<|jemc|> ah, looks like tracer has an attribute to trn showing c on and off
<epitron> (depending on how instrumented MRI is)
<epitron> orly?
<|jemc|> display_c_call
<epitron> handy!
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<epitron> hmm.. doesn't seem to say anything about the actual C methods it calls
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<|jemc|> yeah, I haven't gotten it to work yet...
<|jemc|> I wonder if there's some feature of pry that would help out here
<epitron> Tracer.display_c_call = true; Tracer.on { Hash.new }
<epitron> pry can show C method source
<epitron> that's about it
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<|jemc|> I'm trying to figure out the chain of c methods that get called when I assign a fixnum constant to a previously undefined variable
<|jemc|> for my own exploratory edification
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<|jemc|> I guess I'll just have to browse the MRI source code for it
<|jemc|> or maybe gdb will do it for me
<|jemc|> hm...
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<anjen> Slightly off-topic question for the bored. Who should own the license for the royalty free music on a website? Developer or site owner?
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<anjen> (that is, when you purchase a pallette of music for a website that requires it?)
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<CaptainJet> Whoever purchased it I would assume
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<anjen> I worded it worng. Who makes more sense as the license holder. I'd think the site owner, but honestly I don't know.
<CaptainJet> It does make more sense for the owner of the site the music is used on to own the license yes
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<anjen> Thanks for the confirmation. I was kinda hoping you'd agree. :)
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<ljarvis> moin
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<yorickpeterse> so apparently there's a big ass storm coming
<yorickpeterse> "Xaver"
<yorickpeterse> not impressed so far
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<r0bgleeson> doesnt seem that bad
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<yorickpeterse> they even handed it out the party status ("code orange" lel)
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<r0bgleeson> just seems windy tbh
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<maloik_> out of curiosity, anyone ever seen me part/join spamming or anything like that ?
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<yorickpeterse> que?
<maloik_> as in timing out on irc every couple minutes
<yorickpeterse> nfi, I filter /parts
<yorickpeterse> otherwise this channel looks like this: http://downloads.yorickpeterse.com/images/screenshot_051213_11%3a22%3a29.png
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<maloik_> yea
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<r0bgleeson> maloik_: nah nothing
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<grahamsavage> hi i've got a rake task which i want to bind to a privilaged port not as root
<grahamsavage> to do that you have to run setcap cap_net_bind_service=-ep /path/to/rake
<grahamsavage> but the problem is i only want one of my rake tasks to be able to bind to low numbered ports
<grahamsavage> not all of them
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<maloik_> This is ridiculous, anyone see what I'm missing? https://gist.github.com/hannesfostie/d000f14b1dd1e57e36dd (crossposted from rails, where it's tumbleweeds as usual)
<maloik_> the writing works, the reading returns the actual array rather than a string in the form element
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<yorickpeterse> maybe because of the serialize call
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<maloik_> could have something to do with the formbuilder namespace or so
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<maloik_> for whatever reason the method call doesnt work as expected
<maloik_> super strange
<maloik_> had to set the value manually
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<maloik_> "were expecting water level to rise 6 meters"
<maloik_> oh good going, that tiny little wall is going to help a lot
<maloik_> better hope it doesnt reach 6.5m :D
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<yorickpeterse> yeah the weather is still meh here
<yorickpeterse> nobody died yet
<r0bgleeson> maybe im demented but i enjoy ir
<r0bgleeson> it
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<r0bgleeson> obv sucks a lot if you dont have any shelter to go to
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<maloik_> whitequark (or anyone else for that matter) do you know a ruby implementation of this? https://gist.github.com/hannesfostie/bf687a4bde7dfe817da1
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<maloik_> the thing you told me yesterday was to get the footprint of a local certificate (from a x509 pem file), this one is supposed to fetch it from an fqdn
<darix> maloik_: why not just do an openssl connect and fetch the peer cert?
<maloik_> because I didn't know that existed / know how
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<maloik_> darix: can you point me in the right direction ?
<darix> maloik_: yes
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<darix> maloik_: answered your gist
<darix> i leave it to you to get the ":" into the string
<maloik_> it can stay out, I was gsubbing it out anyway
<maloik_> thanks, I'll give that a go
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<darix> maloik_: it is tested. just no error handling. :p
<maloik_> no worries
<maloik_> thanks a lot
<maloik_> couldve looked forever for that :/
<darix> maloik_: actually that was straight foward "copy paste the ssl client example from the docs", binding.pry to see what is the accessor for the peer cert. using the info from whitequark about the cert.to_der and hashing that. ;)
<darix> and i switched to sha1 as this seems to be used by my openssl
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<maloik_> yep
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<yorickpeterse> ok I think the storm just landed
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<yorickpeterse> finally
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<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: it has got a lot worse =D
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<yorickpeterse> I had to put a few boxes in front of our office windows
<yorickpeterse> bottom sides are a bit loose
<r0bgleeson> it is suppose to be 'code red' now (in north holland)
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<yorickpeterse> yeah
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<bf4> @yorickpeterese did you see ruby-lint was on ruby5?
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<csaunders> if I have a class variable defined in a module is that shared across all classes that include it?
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<yorickpeterse> bf4: ruby5?
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<yorickpeterse> hm, why do people never ask "Hey we're gonna feature you, any comments?"
<yorickpeterse> also they spelled the name wrong
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<maloik_> ugh, wind is picking up here
<maloik_> might have to drive slower than usual later :(
<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: ruby5 is a podcast
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<yorickpeterse> ah
<yorickpeterse> I'll have to listen to that then
<yorickpeterse> pretty exciting stuff, my little 1.0 on Reddit got me around 50 new stars on GH
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<bf4> yeah.. I was featured once, and randomly found out while pair programming and bantering
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<r0bgleeson> i wasn't featured, a project i wrote was though, as it should be
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<yorickpeterse> "Today's podcast is about Yorick, an asshole who talks a lot in #ruby-lang and writes mediocre Ruby code"
<yorickpeterse> "Yorick, introduce yourself"
<yorickpeterse> "<me> Fuck off"
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<cout> I have never listened to a podcast.
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* bf4 why so angry, yorick?
<yorickpeterse> I'm always angry
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<yorickpeterse> But no I'm not, I just hope they didn't say anything that isn't true
<yorickpeterse> e.g. lsegal did a presentation about static analysis, included ruby-lint and said that it just crashed
<bf4> I think they made it sound more feature-complete than it is?
<yorickpeterse> which was fixed before this rubyconf presentation and released
<r0bgleeson> what's the point in bringing that up at a conf?
<r0bgleeson> heard of a github issue?
<yorickpeterse> so I was a bit annoyed that twice he said "it just crashed"
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: I asked him to file an issue afterwards
<bf4> from live coding to live bug reporting, stat!
<matti> yorickpeterse: I will write your autobiography
<matti> ;)
<r0bgleeson> i dont understand why people complain without at least reporting the problem
<yorickpeterse> matti: will it just be ";]" ?
<matti> yorickpeterse: hmm not sure
<bf4> alas, poor yorick, I knew him well ;]
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<yorickpeterse> I have a t-shirt with that
<yorickpeterse> it's L though :<
<yorickpeterse> I have S/M
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<cout> but no B/D?
<yorickpeterse> B/D?
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<cout> off-color joke :(
<yorickpeterse> giggity?
<yorickpeterse> allright lets listen to this podcast
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<yorickpeterse> oh god this is cheesy
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<r0bgleeson> lol http://imgur.com/LXCBsEd
<yorickpeterse> hihi, they're reading up my readme
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<matti> ?
<yorickpeterse> matti: basically they read up my own, probably biased description of rubocop vs ruby-lint
<yorickpeterse> Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the coverage but heh
<matti> Ah
<matti> Who cares about them:P
<yorickpeterse> It's not that, but it's that I'm probably not really to be "trusted" about this since I'm biased
<yorickpeterse> then again I'm always correct
<yorickpeterse> like static typing
<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: they do that to avoid what you said
* yorickpeterse runs
<r0bgleeson> (misrepresenting your project)
<matti> yorickpeterse: <3
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: oh no, they did actually correctly say what it is
<matti> yorickpeterse: I consider myself your groupie so... I am biased too :P
<yorickpeterse> maybe it's a different audience but the Ruby rogues for example actually discuss things
<r0bgleeson> yeah but i mean, it's a failsafe way to not make a mistake too
<yorickpeterse> matti: what the fuck is wrong with you
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: true
<matti> yorickpeterse: I just take piss :P
<yorickpeterse> <insert lame joke>
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: so how's the weather over there in Leiden? It's pretty boring over here in Hipsterdam
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<yorickpeterse> though I'm pretty sure that if I open the window I'll have a new haircut
<matti> Bald Yorik
<matti> ;)
<r0bgleeson> i dont know i think its quite beautiful but yeah it's a storm alright
<yorickpeterse> meh, wind is gone mostly
<r0bgleeson> still a lot of wind and rain here
<yorickpeterse> There probably will be 5 trees and 8 cats blown through my window when I get back home
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<mikecmpbll> i wasn't even arguing, just correcting you.
<yorickpeterse> eh?
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<sebkomianos> hey guys, I am new to ruby and I am trying to add my own custom method to ActiveRecord::Base but I am having some problems with scopes I think, anyone cares to have a look? gist is here: https://gist.github.com/sebkomianos/8138387a1b855c95d271
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<bf4> sebkomianos what are you trying to do there?
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<sebkomianos> bf4: I posted a question on stackoverflow where I explain better - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20407501/methods-scopes-when-extending-activerecord
<bf4> ok.. also idiomatic ruby uses 2 spaces to indent, not tabs
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<sebkomianos> bf4: yup, my bad, I need to set sublimetext2
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<sebkomianos> bf4: does the question make sense though?
<bf4> I answered there
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<sebkomianos> bf4: thanks, I replied too
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<crankharder> any ideas what may be causing this? https://gist.github.com/crankharder/6fff483c768954e058b0
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<wongon> I got an interview question recently which asked how I would determine which files would be related to a UI issue reported on production, and I have access to a QA server with the same code and can duplicate the issue there. I don't think I responded correctly. How would you have responded?
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<drbrain> wongon: for a webapp?
<wongon> yes
<drbrain> I'd go routes file -> controller -> view files
<drbrain> if there's ajax things get a bit trickier, so I may need to look in the inspector first to see where the extra HTML and stuff came from
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<wongon> Is sprinkling debugging statements on a QA server an acceptable answer, or is that supposed to only be done on a development server?
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<whitequark> I'd say no
<drbrain> I would say no on a QA server
<momomomomo> what kind of issue is it?
<momomomomo> Is it happening only on specific pages?
<momomomomo> check logs
<whitequark> personally, I would use just the inspector, and caching/routing configuration
<whitequark> that's if it is reproducible on your machine. if it's not, you have a bigger problem
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<momomomomo> 'just use the inspector' explain your steps
<momomomomo> whitequark:
<whitequark> momomomomo: open the network tab, turn recording on, reproduce the issue, look over any files that may be in any way associated with the issue
<whitequark> determine which file deviates from its intended contents, use the URL to trace it back to server.
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<momomomomo> fair
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<wongon> When you mentioned check the logs, which logs?
<momomomomo> If it's an issue with assets not loading, that's a quick grep on production logs
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<wongon> I mean do you check the apache error log or access log or some other log?
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<wongon> whitequark: what is the caching/routing configuration you mention?
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<whitequark> routing is rails/(other framework) route file, mapping URLs to code.
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<whitequark> caching is not just browser cache, but anything what could sit between your code/static files and browser. nginx, varnish, framework cache, ...
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<sebkomianos> anyone with a possible explanation on why I am getting "method missing" for "errors" when I am trying to extend ActiveRecord? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20407501/extending-activerecord
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