apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p353: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p484) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks
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<postmodern> what is the least ugly way to get the parent module that a class is defined within/
<postmodern> ?
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<pipecloud> postmodern: Like, if it was Module::Module2::Class, you want Module2::Class or Module::Module2::Class?
<postmodern> pipecloud, Module::Module2
<pipecloud> Ah.
<pipecloud> postmodern: Plain ruby, right?
<postmodern> pipecloud, sure
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<pipecloud> postmodern: Here's how rails does it. https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/e890a69500531d5fcca0ad6617ace044ee62bf93/activesupport/lib/active_support/inflector/methods.rb#L187-L189 But that's not particularly useful, I suppose.
<havenwood> postmodern: i think Module#namespace_name
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<havenwood> Object.const_get(Module1::Module2::Class1.namespace_name) #=> Module1::Module2
<havenwood> not sure of a more elegant way, hrm
<pipecloud> oh neat
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<rue> havenwood: Actually the important question is whether it works where you haven’t just defined the whole namespace
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<havenwood> rue: I'm so used to Pry, I didn't realize #namespace_name is provided by `require 'yard'` >.>
<havenwood> all it seems to do is: `#name.split("::")[0..-2].join("::")`
<pipecloud> lol
<pipecloud> I was hoping it wasn't something as lame as that. Hm, checking in ObjectSpace.
<pipecloud> nope.
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<havenwood> pipecloud: heh, yeah so similar to Rails' take - oh well :P
<pipecloud> Right? lul.
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<havenwood> looks like Module#parent was considered but didn't get traction: https://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/216004
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<havenwood> ^ TL;DR: If `C::D = A::B` what is `C::D.parent`? It makes Matz feel weird but will consider if real use-case outside of Rails can be shown.
<havenwood> "returning Object for anonymous module is weird behavior"
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<manveru> moin
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<ljarvis> moin
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<yorickpeterse> tonight I dine in EC2
<yorickpeterse> we're going to Tokyo, aww yiss
<ljarvis> gl
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<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: EC2?
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<manveru> ap-northeast-1 ?
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: yes?
<yorickpeterse> farming IPs yo
<pipecloud> Internet Protocols?
<manveru> i don't think i know any fancy restaurant called EC2 in tokyo :)
<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: i didnt get the tokyo reference :P
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: Tokyo EC2 region
<yorickpeterse> manveru: never know with those Japanese
<r0bgleeson> ah
<yorickpeterse> ooooooh sheeeee, I might actually for once have a proper IP in US EUST
<yorickpeterse> * east
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<yorickpeterse> tl;dr all of 54.XXX got blocked by a certain website we visit
<yorickpeterse> so now we're hauling servers around
<r0bgleeson> is this some kind of video game you play on amazon?
<yorickpeterse> it's chess in a way
<r0bgleeson> can't you choose where you want a box?
<yorickpeterse> yes?
<manveru> i assume that's why amazon doesn't keep easy to find lists of IP ranges of their servers around
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<yorickpeterse> But you have no control over the IPs you get
<yorickpeterse> manveru: they do
<manveru> that topic moves every few weeks...
<yorickpeterse> also it's not very hard to find, just whois the IP
<yorickpeterse> but yeah, 54.X, 50.X and 184.X are all blocked
<yorickpeterse> so only a few million IPs :P
<r0bgleeson> how do people typically secure amazon machines? devops people?
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<r0bgleeson> i would use heroku or EY just to not have to deal with that -_-
<pipecloud> r0bgleeson: They flip out when you install your IRC client on their machines is what.
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: various ways
<r0bgleeson> pipecloud: can't you get a free instance for that? :D
<yorickpeterse> e.g. we have a dedicated ops team
<pipecloud> r0bgleeson: I don't actually use amazon myself anymore.
<yorickpeterse> I'm probably the most devops-y here in the office
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<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: yeah, that seems to be the way, i'm not sure id trust myself in being able to actually monitor a machine serving requests to potentially hundreds of thousands of people
<r0bgleeson> it seems easier to throw that off on heroku/EY (even though that's annoying for other reasons)
<manveru> so you only do intranet?
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<r0bgleeson> manveru: haha, i mean for a website
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: actually it requires little manual intervention if set up up properly
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<r0bgleeson> i thought it was a profession by itself
<yorickpeterse> it is, but it's not like you sit reading logs all day
<r0bgleeson> yeah
<r0bgleeson> heroku becomes a bit too pricy in the end anyway
<yorickpeterse> AWS isn't cheap either
<yorickpeterse> But it's pretty darn sweet if you drink the whole AWS koolaid
<pipecloud> That's what they want though.
<manveru> i just have my own servers :P
<yorickpeterse> lol, 1042 seconds real time, only 4 seconds CPU time
<yorickpeterse> fkn IO
<manveru> screw the cloud
<manveru> in other news, looks like gimp finally has a usable UI
<r0bgleeson> really?
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<pipecloud> Alternative headline: manveru's standards finally hit rock bottom.
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<manveru> :)
<r0bgleeson> i couldnt make a thing with it back in the day
<manveru> it's a single window!
<manveru> that's, like, mind, blown!
<r0bgleeson> only took 10 years
<matti> manveru: Wasn't the alternative UI like that?
<manveru> i don't think they changed anything else tho
<yorickpeterse> manveru: it's had single window mode for a year now or so
<manveru> oh
<manveru> guess it's standard now?
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<yorickpeterse> Hm could be, didn't notice that as I turned on single window mode right away
<manveru> gimp 2.8.8
<r0bgleeson> what are you trying to draw
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<manveru> i don't use it for drawing...
<r0bgleeson> what do you use it for?
<manveru> just cutting images and such
<matti> LOL
<matti> manveru: A bit of an over kill ;p
<yorickpeterse> I usually use it to make funny images of people e.g. ljarvis
<manveru> my drawing skills are on par with an elephant... so yeah
<r0bgleeson> ljarvis does a good job of that alone
<r0bgleeson> he is on a jetpack on his latest photo
<r0bgleeson> haha weird
<yorickpeterse> (the blue thing is $WORK's logo)
* yorickpeterse hopes people here know who hand banana is
<manveru> is it worth knowing?
<r0bgleeson> not a clue -_-
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<yorickpeterse> http://youtu.be/TAKL3Og-zGc mildly NSFW
<matti> yorickpeterse: Very creative.
<yorickpeterse> matti: I should run for TIME person of the year
<r0bgleeson> Waarschuwing over inhoud
<matti> yorickpeterse: Definitely.
<pipecloud> yorickpeterse: I thought you had to be nominated.
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<r0bgleeson> you do, by a select comittee of masons
<matti> manveru: How's tricks?
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<manveru> who's tricks?
<r0bgleeson> how's tricks is like how's it going
<matti> Yes.
<matti> UK thing.
<manveru> at least i know tricky :)
<manveru> but first time i hear this...
<manveru> anw, all good :)
<pipecloud> Whose tricks?
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* matti smacks manveru with a wet cod for ignoring his /query yesterday ;p
<matti> [ Also an UK thing ;p See Monty P. ]
<manveru> better than a large trout
* yorickpeterse slaps manveru a few times
<manveru> i must say, i'm not fond of all that slapping
<yorickpeterse> grrr, it never picks my custom ones
<matti> yorickpeterse: No, no... for you its a fetish.
<matti> manveru: Relax ;p
<manveru> just practicing my BE responses
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<matti> BE?
<manveru> and i didn't ignore it, it's just nothing i can do anything about
<manveru> english of your queen and overlord
<matti> manveru: Eli is not my Queen ;p
<matti> manveru: I am not English ;p
* yorickpeterse finds the closest large object and gives matti a slap with it
<manveru> you will be assimilated
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<matti> yorickpeterse: LOL, like what?
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<yorickpeterse> WHAT THE HELL, I REMOVED THAT ONE
* matti has no idea what yorickpeterse just said.
<matti> manveru: :(
<yorickpeterse> so I have this plugin called /rslap
<yorickpeterse> it uses some file for those lines
<yorickpeterse> but apparently it doesn't
<matti> yorickpeterse
<matti> ;]
<manveru> only 15 more days to dr who :D
<matti> manveru: Um.
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<matti> manveru: You watched from Ep 1? ;p
<manveru> yeah
<manveru> doctor 1, season 1, episode 1...
<matti> Oh dear.
<matti> manveru: You have become a honorary Brit then.
<matti> manveru: Don't forget to get your tea fix at 5pm ;]
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<matti> manveru: And crumpets.
<manveru> lol
<matti> :>
<manveru> only tea here :(
<matti> ;/
<matti> I can ship you some crumpets.
<manveru> they're like thick pancakes, no?
<matti> A bit.
<matti> More chewy.
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<matti> And greasy.
<manveru> sounds delicious
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<manveru> i don't think i'd wanna live in britain... but i love the culture :)
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<manveru> they just need to fix the weather
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<matti> ;p
<matti> manveru: Working on it, Sir ;]
<matti> manveru: We've had warmest day this year in autumn, so its getting there.
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<maloik_> you mean the warmest day in london this year was during autumn?
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<matti> No.
<matti> Its was this crazy two days where it was nearly 28 C.
<matti> In the middle of autumn.
<matti> Or maybe it was 2012?
<matti> Hmm...
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<yorickpeterse> > spend 2 hours debugging basic proxy auth in Nginx
<yorickpeterse> > find out Faraday is bugged
<maloik_> bugs all the way down
<yorickpeterse> oh lol, and the HTTP Gem seems to just ignore it because herp derp
<yorickpeterse> the fuck is going on here
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<yorickpeterse> ok I was goofing
<yorickpeterse> Apparently if you set up basic auth for nginx proxies you have to, surprise, set up basic auth in Faraday
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<yorickpeterse> as in, it doesn't work when you do connection.proxy('http://foo:bar@some_host:1234')
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<yorickpeterse> I need lunch
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<jammanbo> When you create a new anonymous module (Module.new) is the #parent always Object, or can it be set somehow?
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<manveru> jammanbo: since when is there are #parent method?
<jammanbo> oh, is that Rails maybe?
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<manveru> maybe, never heard of it
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<jammanbo> yeah seems to be. sorry.
<r0bgleeson> a Module is a special type of object but it is defined as class Module < Object; end. i think rubinius lets you to define the superclass (#superlcass = ) but it might cause weird bugs or crashes.
<r0bgleeson> oh this is not rubinius :D
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<r0bgleeson> i realized when i hit enter sorry
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<manveru> jammanbo: what are you trying to do?
<jammanbo> manveru: Ah I'm just looking at a gem that does a bit of metaprogramming. There are workarounds for the issue I'm having so it's no biggie
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<manveru> fighting metaprogramming with metaprogramming
<manveru> what could possibly go wrong
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<r0bgleeson> meta the meta
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<ljarvis> derp
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<zzak> ljarvis: hi
<ljarvis> zzak: ihi
<zzak> ihihi
<ljarvis> hihihiihhh
<ljarvis> how goes sir?
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<zzak> ljarvis: im good! you?
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<ljarvis> zzak: very good ty
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<yorickpeterse> chaps
<zzak> ljarvis: :D
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<zzak> interrupt a dead condition variable
<zzak> yayy
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<ljarvis> dat dead variable
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<yorickpeterse> guess this is *puts on sunglasses* the post mortem
<yorickpeterse> YYYHEEELAAAMMMEEEE JOOOKES
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<yorickpeterse> aww yiss, the best test is a live test on somebody's website
<yorickpeterse> who needs webmock!
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<matti> ?
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<ljarvis> matti: you should know better than to ask
<yorickpeterse> exactly
<matti> ;s
<yorickpeterse> tl;dr scraping live websites because I cbf refactoring and writing tests for 80 or so scrapers
<yorickpeterse> not to mention that testing them is nigh impossible in their current state
<yorickpeterse> so I"m just running them on the actual stuff to see if they at least don't throw any errors
<matti> ljarvis: Not often I see yorickpeterse so agitated.
<matti> ljarvis: I was simply not prepared to see it, and just blunt "?" seemed in order.
<yorickpeterse> agitated?
<matti> yorickpeterse: Excited?
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<ljarvis> wat
<yorickpeterse> hey I can be happy too
<yorickpeterse> sometimes
<yorickpeterse> usually doesn't involve computers
<matti> yorickpeterse: Well, that is why I was confused.
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<yorickpeterse> well I did hit a nice milestone today, I can finally do the things I wanted to do last Friday/yesterday
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<matti> :)
<matti> \o/
<matti> That calls for a cake.
<matti> I will have some then.
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<yorickpeterse> so there's this line of code:
<yorickpeterse> result[:info][:pictures] += scrape_html(get_and_parse_html_from_url(url)).css('td.pictureframe > img').map{|e| "http://" + @host + e.attr('src')} if url
<yorickpeterse> "wat"
<yorickpeterse> and it breaks too
<ljarvis> D:
<yorickpeterse> I think the average line length of this file is 120 characters or so
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<matti> This piece of code makes coffee, obviously.
<yorickpeterse> it's one of the less bad ones
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<yorickpeterse> pffff haha Net::HTTP craps out if no scheme is given
<ljarvis> huh
<yorickpeterse> >> require 'net/http'; Net::HTTP.get(URI('google.com'))
<yorickpeterse> ....
<yorickpeterse> CHARRRLLIIEEEE
<darix> yorickpeterse: yes?
<yorickpeterse> the aussie
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<yorickpeterse> either way, that gives a connect() error
<ljarvis> you mean URI doesn't default to http
<yorickpeterse> I would say URI is correct here
<ljarvis> it's using a generic uri
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<yorickpeterse> ah: @host = URI.parse(@url).host
<yorickpeterse> wot scheme?
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<slap_stick> hey, i am trying to iterate over two hashes and ones with a ? (which are optional) i want to remove them if they are not in the other hash and then return the two hashes https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4c563357455f542ecf3b explains what i have but it doesn't work , it seems long winded and messy but i dont have the ruby foo to clean it up so it's
<slap_stick> neat and simple
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<zzak> yorickpeterse: you need the scheme
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<Lewis> slap_stick: i think line 10 and 12 should be h2k instead of h2kn
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<slap_stick> Lewis, the key with the ? is optional, i'm matching if it is in the other hash without the '?' as the h2 hash is basically a schema of how the h1 hash can be if that makes sense, so anything with a ? if it's not in the h1 hash (without the ?), i want to remove it from h2
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<Lewis> slap_stick: im not sure why you need line 9
<Lewis> slap_stick: it overrides h2kn
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<Lewis> slap_stick: I didn't know we could use zip on hashes, I thought it was just for Arrays. Can you explain to be line 5 between, it could come in handy
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<ljarvis> dat code
<ljarvis> zip is on Enumberable
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<momomomomo> How slow is the treat gem compared to using a java library?
<momomomomo> anyone ever used it?
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<ljarvis> pure ruby vs java
<ljarvis> i think you know where this is going
<lianj> popcorn?
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<momomomomo> ljarvis: lianj It's just a question about performance of the wrappers, not of the languages.
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<zzak> もももももも
<ljarvis> momomomomo: you'll be best benchmarking them yourself
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<momomomomo> just gonna settle with jruby and not use some of the workers; if I need the workers, I'll hop into MRI
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<Lewis> is it possible to have the logs
<Lewis> of the last 24 hours
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<Lewis> Mon_Ouie: lol you guys didn't talk much, and slap_stick didn't answer my question and his own still
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<Lewis> Mon_Ouie: what does #zip do when it's used with a hash
<Mon_Ouie> Same as it does with any Enumerable, it iterates over both collections simultaneously
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<Lewis> Mon_Ouie: I didn't see in the doc on enumerable or my eyes betrayed me
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<Mon_Ouie> ri Enumerable#zip
<Lewis> ri Enumerable#zip
<Lewis> Nothing known about Enumerable#zip
<Mon_Ouie> Do you have the documentation installed though?
<justincampbell> #phillyrb is starting and being livestreamed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ovgi6Y-sk
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<Lewis> Mon_Ouie: seems like I have to run rvm docs generate
<Lewis> Mon_Ouie: and yes that was bad eyes I just saw it on the official doc
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