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<
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what is the least ugly way to get the parent module that a class is defined within/
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postmodern: Like, if it was Module::Module2::Class, you want Module2::Class or Module::Module2::Class?
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pipecloud, Module::Module2
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pipecloud >
postmodern: Plain ruby, right?
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pipecloud, sure
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postmodern: i think Module#namespace_name
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Object.const_get(Module1::Module2::Class1.namespace_name) #=> Module1::Module2
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not sure of a more elegant way, hrm
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oh neat
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havenwood: Actually the important question is whether it works where you haven’t just defined the whole namespace
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rue: I'm so used to Pry, I didn't realize #namespace_name is provided by `require 'yard'` >.>
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all it seems to do is: `#name.split("::")[0..-2].join("::")`
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I was hoping it wasn't something as lame as that. Hm, checking in ObjectSpace.
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pipecloud: heh, yeah so similar to Rails' take - oh well :P
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Right? lul.
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^ TL;DR: If `C::D = A::B` what is `C::D.parent`? It makes Matz feel weird but will consider if real use-case outside of Rails can be shown.
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"returning Object for anonymous module is weird behavior"
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yorickpeterse >
morning
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<
yorickpeterse >
tonight I dine in EC2
09:47
<
yorickpeterse >
we're going to Tokyo, aww yiss
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<
r0bgleeson >
yorickpeterse: EC2?
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<
manveru >
ap-northeast-1 ?
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<
yorickpeterse >
r0bgleeson: yes?
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<
yorickpeterse >
farming IPs yo
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<
pipecloud >
Internet Protocols?
09:55
<
manveru >
i don't think i know any fancy restaurant called EC2 in tokyo :)
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r0bgleeson >
yorickpeterse: i didnt get the tokyo reference :P
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yorickpeterse >
r0bgleeson: Tokyo EC2 region
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<
yorickpeterse >
manveru: never know with those Japanese
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<
yorickpeterse >
ooooooh sheeeee, I might actually for once have a proper IP in US EUST
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<
yorickpeterse >
* east
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<
yorickpeterse >
tl;dr all of 54.XXX got blocked by a certain website we visit
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<
yorickpeterse >
so now we're hauling servers around
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<
r0bgleeson >
is this some kind of video game you play on amazon?
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<
yorickpeterse >
it's chess in a way
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<
r0bgleeson >
can't you choose where you want a box?
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<
yorickpeterse >
yes?
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<
manveru >
i assume that's why amazon doesn't keep easy to find lists of IP ranges of their servers around
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<
yorickpeterse >
But you have no control over the IPs you get
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<
yorickpeterse >
manveru: they do
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<
manveru >
that topic moves every few weeks...
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<
yorickpeterse >
also it's not very hard to find, just whois the IP
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<
yorickpeterse >
but yeah, 54.X, 50.X and 184.X are all blocked
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<
yorickpeterse >
so only a few million IPs :P
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r0bgleeson >
how do people typically secure amazon machines? devops people?
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r0bgleeson >
i would use heroku or EY just to not have to deal with that -_-
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<
pipecloud >
r0bgleeson: They flip out when you install your IRC client on their machines is what.
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<
yorickpeterse >
r0bgleeson: various ways
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<
r0bgleeson >
pipecloud: can't you get a free instance for that? :D
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. we have a dedicated ops team
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<
pipecloud >
r0bgleeson: I don't actually use amazon myself anymore.
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yorickpeterse >
I'm probably the most devops-y here in the office
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r0bgleeson >
yorickpeterse: yeah, that seems to be the way, i'm not sure id trust myself in being able to actually monitor a machine serving requests to potentially hundreds of thousands of people
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r0bgleeson >
it seems easier to throw that off on heroku/EY (even though that's annoying for other reasons)
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manveru >
so you only do intranet?
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r0bgleeson >
manveru: haha, i mean for a website
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yorickpeterse >
r0bgleeson: actually it requires little manual intervention if set up up properly
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r0bgleeson >
i thought it was a profession by itself
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<
yorickpeterse >
it is, but it's not like you sit reading logs all day
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<
r0bgleeson >
heroku becomes a bit too pricy in the end anyway
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<
yorickpeterse >
AWS isn't cheap either
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<
yorickpeterse >
But it's pretty darn sweet if you drink the whole AWS koolaid
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<
pipecloud >
That's what they want though.
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<
manveru >
i just have my own servers :P
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<
yorickpeterse >
lol, 1042 seconds real time, only 4 seconds CPU time
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<
yorickpeterse >
fkn IO
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<
manveru >
screw the cloud
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<
manveru >
in other news, looks like gimp finally has a usable UI
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<
r0bgleeson >
really?
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<
pipecloud >
Alternative headline: manveru's standards finally hit rock bottom.
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r0bgleeson >
i couldnt make a thing with it back in the day
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manveru >
it's a single window!
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<
manveru >
that's, like, mind, blown!
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<
r0bgleeson >
only took 10 years
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matti >
manveru: Wasn't the alternative UI like that?
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manveru >
i don't think they changed anything else tho
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yorickpeterse >
manveru: it's had single window mode for a year now or so
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manveru >
guess it's standard now?
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<
yorickpeterse >
Hm could be, didn't notice that as I turned on single window mode right away
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manveru >
gimp 2.8.8
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r0bgleeson >
what are you trying to draw
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manveru >
i don't use it for drawing...
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r0bgleeson >
what do you use it for?
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manveru >
just cutting images and such
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matti >
manveru: A bit of an over kill ;p
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yorickpeterse >
I usually use it to make funny images of people e.g. ljarvis
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manveru >
my drawing skills are on par with an elephant... so yeah
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r0bgleeson >
ljarvis does a good job of that alone
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<
r0bgleeson >
he is on a jetpack on his latest photo
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r0bgleeson >
haha weird
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<
yorickpeterse >
(the blue thing is $WORK's logo)
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* yorickpeterse
hopes people here know who hand banana is
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<
manveru >
is it worth knowing?
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r0bgleeson >
not a clue -_-
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Very creative.
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yorickpeterse >
matti: I should run for TIME person of the year
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<
r0bgleeson >
Waarschuwing over inhoud
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<
matti >
yorickpeterse: Definitely.
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<
pipecloud >
yorickpeterse: I thought you had to be nominated.
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r0bgleeson >
you do, by a select comittee of masons
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matti >
manveru: How's tricks?
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manveru >
who's tricks?
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r0bgleeson >
how's tricks is like how's it going
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<
manveru >
at least i know tricky :)
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<
manveru >
but first time i hear this...
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<
manveru >
anw, all good :)
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<
pipecloud >
Whose tricks?
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* matti
smacks manveru with a wet cod for ignoring his /query yesterday ;p
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matti >
[ Also an UK thing ;p See Monty P. ]
10:23
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manveru >
better than a large trout
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* yorickpeterse
slaps manveru a few times
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<
manveru >
i must say, i'm not fond of all that slapping
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<
yorickpeterse >
grrr, it never picks my custom ones
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matti >
yorickpeterse: No, no... for you its a fetish.
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matti >
manveru: Relax ;p
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manveru >
just practicing my BE responses
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manveru >
and i didn't ignore it, it's just nothing i can do anything about
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<
manveru >
english of your queen and overlord
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matti >
manveru: Eli is not my Queen ;p
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matti >
manveru: I am not English ;p
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finds the closest large object and gives matti a slap with it
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<
manveru >
you will be assimilated
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matti >
yorickpeterse: LOL, like what?
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* yorickpeterse
gives matti a clout round the head with a fresh copy of WeeChat
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yorickpeterse >
WHAT THE HELL, I REMOVED THAT ONE
10:26
* matti
has no idea what yorickpeterse just said.
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<
matti >
manveru: :(
10:26
<
yorickpeterse >
so I have this plugin called /rslap
10:26
<
yorickpeterse >
it uses some file for those lines
10:26
<
yorickpeterse >
but apparently it doesn't
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<
matti >
yorickpeterse
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<
manveru >
only 15 more days to dr who :D
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<
matti >
manveru: Um.
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matti >
manveru: You watched from Ep 1? ;p
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<
manveru >
doctor 1, season 1, episode 1...
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<
matti >
manveru: You have become a honorary Brit then.
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<
matti >
manveru: Don't forget to get your tea fix at 5pm ;]
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matti >
manveru: And crumpets.
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<
manveru >
only tea here :(
10:29
<
matti >
I can ship you some crumpets.
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<
manveru >
they're like thick pancakes, no?
10:30
<
matti >
More chewy.
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matti >
And greasy.
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manveru >
sounds delicious
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manveru >
i don't think i'd wanna live in britain... but i love the culture :)
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manveru >
they just need to fix the weather
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matti >
manveru: Working on it, Sir ;]
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<
matti >
manveru: We've had warmest day this year in autumn, so its getting there.
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<
maloik_ >
you mean the warmest day in london this year was during autumn?
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<
matti >
Its was this crazy two days where it was nearly 28 C.
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<
matti >
In the middle of autumn.
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<
matti >
Or maybe it was 2012?
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<
yorickpeterse >
> spend 2 hours debugging basic proxy auth in Nginx
11:35
<
yorickpeterse >
> find out Faraday is bugged
11:35
<
maloik_ >
bugs all the way down
11:39
<
yorickpeterse >
oh lol, and the HTTP Gem seems to just ignore it because herp derp
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<
yorickpeterse >
the fuck is going on here
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yorickpeterse >
ok I was goofing
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yorickpeterse >
Apparently if you set up basic auth for nginx proxies you have to, surprise, set up basic auth in Faraday
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yorickpeterse >
as in, it doesn't work when you do connection.proxy('
http://foo :bar@some_host:1234')
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yorickpeterse >
I need lunch
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jammanbo >
When you create a new anonymous module (Module.new) is the #parent always Object, or can it be set somehow?
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jammanbo: since when is there are #parent method?
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jammanbo >
oh, is that Rails maybe?
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manveru >
maybe, never heard of it
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jammanbo >
yeah seems to be. sorry.
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r0bgleeson >
a Module is a special type of object but it is defined as class Module < Object; end. i think rubinius lets you to define the superclass (#superlcass = ) but it might cause weird bugs or crashes.
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r0bgleeson >
oh this is not rubinius :D
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r0bgleeson >
i realized when i hit enter sorry
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manveru >
jammanbo: what are you trying to do?
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manveru: Ah I'm just looking at a gem that does a bit of metaprogramming. There are workarounds for the issue I'm having so it's no biggie
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manveru >
fighting metaprogramming with metaprogramming
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manveru >
what could possibly go wrong
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r0bgleeson >
meta the meta
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ljarvis >
zzak: ihi
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ljarvis >
hihihiihhh
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ljarvis >
how goes sir?
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zzak >
ljarvis: im good! you?
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ljarvis >
zzak: very good ty
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yorickpeterse >
chaps
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zzak >
interrupt a dead condition variable
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ljarvis >
dat dead variable
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yorickpeterse >
guess this is
*puts on sunglasses* the post mortem
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yorickpeterse >
YYYHEEELAAAMMMEEEE JOOOKES
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yorickpeterse >
aww yiss, the best test is a live test on somebody's website
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yorickpeterse >
who needs webmock!
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ljarvis >
matti: you should know better than to ask
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yorickpeterse >
exactly
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yorickpeterse >
tl;dr scraping live websites because I cbf refactoring and writing tests for 80 or so scrapers
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yorickpeterse >
not to mention that testing them is nigh impossible in their current state
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yorickpeterse >
so I"m just running them on the actual stuff to see if they at least don't throw any errors
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matti >
ljarvis: Not often I see yorickpeterse so agitated.
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matti >
ljarvis: I was simply not prepared to see it, and just blunt "?" seemed in order.
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yorickpeterse >
agitated?
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Excited?
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yorickpeterse >
hey I can be happy too
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yorickpeterse >
sometimes
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yorickpeterse >
usually doesn't involve computers
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matti >
yorickpeterse: Well, that is why I was confused.
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yorickpeterse >
well I did hit a nice milestone today, I can finally do the things I wanted to do last Friday/yesterday
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matti >
That calls for a cake.
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matti >
I will have some then.
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yorickpeterse >
so there's this line of code:
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yorickpeterse >
result[:info][:pictures] += scrape_html(get_and_parse_html_from_url(url)).css('td.pictureframe > img').map{|e| "http://" + @host + e.attr('src')} if url
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yorickpeterse >
"wat"
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yorickpeterse >
and it breaks too
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yorickpeterse >
I think the average line length of this file is 120 characters or so
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matti >
This piece of code makes coffee, obviously.
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yorickpeterse >
it's one of the less bad ones
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yorickpeterse >
pffff haha Net::HTTP craps out if no scheme is given
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yorickpeterse >
>> require 'net/http'; Net::HTTP.get(URI('google.com'))
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yorickpeterse >
....
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yorickpeterse >
CHARRRLLIIEEEE
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darix >
yorickpeterse: yes?
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yorickpeterse >
the aussie
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yorickpeterse >
either way, that gives a connect() error
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ljarvis >
you mean URI doesn't default to http
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yorickpeterse >
I would say URI is correct here
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ljarvis >
it's using a generic uri
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yorickpeterse >
ah: @host = URI.parse(@url).host
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yorickpeterse >
wot scheme?
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slap_stick >
hey, i am trying to iterate over two hashes and ones with a ? (which are optional) i want to remove them if they are not in the other hash and then return the two hashes
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4c563357455f542ecf3b explains what i have but it doesn't work , it seems long winded and messy but i dont have the ruby foo to clean it up so it's
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slap_stick >
neat and simple
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yorickpeterse: you need the scheme
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Lewis >
slap_stick: i think line 10 and 12 should be h2k instead of h2kn
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slap_stick >
Lewis, the key with the ? is optional, i'm matching if it is in the other hash without the '?' as the h2 hash is basically a schema of how the h1 hash can be if that makes sense, so anything with a ? if it's not in the h1 hash (without the ?), i want to remove it from h2
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Lewis >
slap_stick: im not sure why you need line 9
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Lewis >
slap_stick: it overrides h2kn
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Lewis >
slap_stick: I didn't know we could use zip on hashes, I thought it was just for Arrays. Can you explain to be line 5 between, it could come in handy
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zip is on Enumberable
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How slow is the treat gem compared to using a java library?
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anyone ever used it?
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pure ruby vs java
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i think you know where this is going
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ljarvis: lianj It's just a question about performance of the wrappers, not of the languages.
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momomomomo: you'll be best benchmarking them yourself
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just gonna settle with jruby and not use some of the workers; if I need the workers, I'll hop into MRI
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is it possible to have the logs
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of the last 24 hours
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Mon_Ouie: lol you guys didn't talk much, and slap_stick didn't answer my question and his own still
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Mon_Ouie: what does #zip do when it's used with a hash
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Same as it does with any Enumerable, it iterates over both collections simultaneously
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Mon_Ouie: I didn't see in the doc on enumerable or my eyes betrayed me
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ri Enumerable#zip
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ri Enumerable#zip
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Lewis >
Nothing known about Enumerable#zip
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Do you have the documentation installed though?
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Mon_Ouie: seems like I have to run rvm docs generate
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Mon_Ouie: and yes that was bad eyes I just saw it on the official doc
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