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imperator >
anyone up?
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imperator >
how goes it apeiros?
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imperator: quite good
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apeiros >
working on a Stream parser for my .ept format
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imperator >
just looking at a callback issue where win32-api seems to work and ffi doesn't
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imperator >
and pondering a thread-safe icmp ping (net-ping)
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yorickpeterse >
?stats
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yorickpeterse >
gah fak, wrong channel
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apeiros >
yay! I went way down that list! awesome
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apparently I'm master smiley
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ddfreyne >
I didn't make it to that list!
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apeiros >
6 out of 10 smilies have last been used by me
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Poor yorickpeterse, nobody likes him/her.
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yorickpeterse >
figures
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andrewvos >
Oh wow I'm number five
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"It seems that rue|w's shift-key is hanging: 8.3% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE"
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"andrewvos seems to be unliked too. He/She got beaten 4 times"
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TIL: I use the word "would" a lot.
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there's something so satisfying about just slapping some ugly ass HTML into a file
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fuck CSS, JS and all that
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FiXato >
I still want to write my own IRC logs parser + stats generator some day
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yorickpeterse >
meh, you can just slap that shit in Elasticsearch using logstash
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yorickpeterse >
then show it using Kibana
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yorickpeterse >
bam, job done
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I was thinking of that but cbf running a public elasticsearch cluster
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erikh >
I wonder why my numbers are so high -- I barely talk in here anymore
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yorickpeterse >
erikh: mind you this is since 2012-01-30
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<
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that makes more sense
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should probably add that to the index
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apeiros >
explains why apeiros_ is still > apeiros in that log
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FiXato >
but yorickpeterse, you don't get that wonderful feeeling you get from reinventing the wheel ;-)
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toretore >
also, some wheels suck
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... it is truly #yorickwhitequark-lang. sad.
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yorickpeterse >
you thought otherwise?
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yorickpeterse >
also you have to give yourself some credit for hijacking an IRC channel
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yorickpeterse >
ooooooooh jesus, our largest internet exchange is branching out to the US
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yorickpeterse >
WELL, THERE GOES OUR LAST BIT OF PRIVACY
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yorickpeterse >
Fucking dumbass country, never learns anything
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andrewvos >
what is "privacy"
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yorickpeterse >
last time we were successful was during the golden age and since then we've been consistently going to shit
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: this thing where only Google looks over your sholder, not the entire US
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yorickpeterse >
What angers me mostly about this is that this country has been run by clowns for about 15 years now (that's as far as I can remember) and there doesn't seem to be anything that can be done about it
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yorickpeterse >
(politics 101)
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erikh >
what country? denmark?
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yorickpeterse >
Denmark is ok minus the tax bullshit
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yorickpeterse >
and the fact that they basically strip you of all your money
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yorickpeterse >
then complain that you owe them even more
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yorickpeterse >
I should probably move to Iceland or something
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andrewvos >
I hear the girls there are hot
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yorickpeterse >
I think they still owe half of Europe a shit ton of money though
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yorickpeterse >
Like, ironically, most of Europe
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erikh >
people talk about the US's debt ceiling like we're the only ones blowing it
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yorickpeterse >
Germany is really the only country that's doing financially well at this point
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erikh >
kind of amusing
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yorickpeterse >
but those pricks are in bed with the US so fuck em
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erikh >
it's not all bad here
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yorickpeterse >
"OH THE NSA IS SPYING? HERECY!!!! (ssssh don't tell anybody we helped them)" - Germany, 2013
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erikh >
nobody here is happy about the NSA either.
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erikh >
well, nobody with an IQ of 80+
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yorickpeterse >
which is like what, 20% of the population? (same here sadly)
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erikh >
80 is the lowball
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yorickpeterse >
"OH SHIT MILEY WHATEVER *forgets Snowden*"
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erikh >
that's more of a cultural problem than anything.
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yorickpeterse >
Snowden should've shown his ass on stage with "The NSA spies on you" written on it, would've worked a lot better
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erikh >
and really is a lot moire than just the US
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yorickpeterse >
then twerked above a sign saying "I'll probably get tortured for this"
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erikh >
the internet has really derailed public discourse
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yorickpeterse >
yeah
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yorickpeterse >
Guess that when we branch out to the moon/mars we should only allow people with an IQ above 100 in
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: since median IQ is, by definition, 100... I'm not sure if it's even possible
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erikh >
most of hte people I know with short attention spans are pretty smart folks
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yorickpeterse >
However then you end up with this problem of "OOOH NOOO I DON'T WANT TO CLEAN MEEHHH"
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whitequark >
*for only 20% of population to have IQ of 80+
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yorickpeterse >
"I'M TOO SMART FOR THAT"
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: heh
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yorickpeterse >
I have honestly no idea what my IQ would be, not that I care much though
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yorickpeterse >
I had some hippy test as a kid but that's it
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erikh >
probably in the 140-160 range
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erikh >
most nerds I know are in that range.
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yorickpeterse >
probably yeah
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erikh >
last time I was officially tested I was ~150 or something like that.
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yorickpeterse >
The test I had as a kid was basically "DRAW A TRIANGLE. NOT STRAIGHT ENOUGH? -20 points!"
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whitequark >
officially?
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erikh >
whitequark: by a psychologist
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erikh >
and I'm declining to answer any other questions on the subject :)
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ykk` >
hey everyone
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erikh >
ykk`: hello!
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yorickpeterse >
erikh: did you have a caviety search?
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erikh >
yorickpeterse: no
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yorickpeterse >
* cavity
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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erikh >
and IQ is theoretical intelligence, not "actual" intelligence
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ykk` >
whoops i meant delete_if
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erikh >
basically a measure of where it's suspected you cap out
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yorickpeterse >
true, it doesn't take improv into account
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erikh >
ykk`: you want !~
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whitequark >
"IQ tests measure how good are people at IQ tests"
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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whitequark >
though, all do.
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erikh >
whitequark: so true
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whitequark >
injekt: hi
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erikh >
ykk`: basically, right now, you're trying to see if a is a Regexp object
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erikh >
!~ will do the match against the regexp.
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ykk` >
it's not working boo hoo
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erikh >
well, then you need to debug it :)
14:23
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ykk` >
i only want to add the schools that are art schools to the array
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erikh >
is that the data?
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ykk` >
and my ruby files
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erikh >
can you give me a sample? github is refusing to show that file
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ykk` >
github won't let you see any of the 4 files or just the csv file?
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erikh >
just the csv
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erikh >
I think I see the problem here
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erikh >
#delete_if is not what you want
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ykk` >
yeah i wasn't sure if that was the right method
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erikh >
something more like that.
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erikh >
see the difference?
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erikh >
the transformation is happening for each row, not each column
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ykk` >
i thought it was just wrong to use a conditional without else or elsif
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erikh >
actually, logic-wise, else/elsif is completely unnecessary
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erikh >
I had a friend writing a language that excluded them as control structures a long timeago
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erikh >
it's a mathy thing
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erikh >
anyhow -- see if something like that works for you.
14:29
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erikh >
and use 2-space indent in your ruby code -- your ruby co-workers will appreciate it
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erikh >
(it's the standard)
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ykk` >
yay it works
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ykk` >
i thought i did
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ykk` >
my subl is tab size 2
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ykk` >
i'll fix it in github
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erikh >
welp, just had a 45m downtime on two services because I'm a retard
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erikh >
hopefully I do not get fired
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ykk` >
downtime for what?
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erikh >
canna talk about it. I will just say I work in technical operations.
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chris2 >
for a large advertising provider?
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erikh >
not large but yes
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chris2 >
so not google :P
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erikh >
no, not google
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erikh >
I didn't end up going with james over there.
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ljarvis >
i still get emails from wf :/
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yorickpeterse >
wf?
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chris2 >
erikh: oh, were you at his company?
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erikh >
yep, one of his ops folks
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erikh >
yorickpeterse: wildfire -- sold to google last summer for 400mil
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erikh >
facebook presence management software
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yorickpeterse >
Ah, so basically like PRISM
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chris2 >
now i need to adjust my bullshit filter :P
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erikh >
it's not bullshit, it's just ... software
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ddfreyne >
you guys
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chris2 >
"presence management software" like finger(1)? :P
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ddfreyne >
Hmm, can one override .new on a class?
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ddfreyne >
I have a singleton and I only want a single one
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ddfreyne >
(stateless singleton)
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ddfreyne >
(THE empty set)
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chris2 >
use a constant
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whitequark >
ddfreyne: def Singleton.new
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ddfreyne >
Maybe a constant would be nicer.
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ykk` >
I'm getting culinary and beauty schools
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ykk` >
I need those out, what should i be looking at? should I create a separate method do delete them from the array once collected?
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ykk` >
or should i keep it in the same construct?
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ykk` >
wtf i can't change my indentations in gist =(
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andrewvos >
ykk`: Move line 4 to line 6?
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andrewvos >
ykk`: And unless is the same as an if, but in reverse
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ykk` >
i just made another method to use delete_if
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ykk` >
now i'm weeding out the entries i don't need
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ykk` >
maybe my regex could be stronger though
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andrewvos >
or you could just do: next if row["Institution_Name"] =~ /culinary/i
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andrewvos >
But put that above the part where you add it to the array
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ykk` >
so next if will break out of that block
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andrewvos >
next will break out of the block
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andrewvos >
next if is not a thing
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andrewvos >
but next is, and if is
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andrewvos >
You can do that with other code is what I mean
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andrewvos >
<do something> if <something
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ykk` >
next <conditional>
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andrewvos >
you could do this:
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andrewvos >
if something
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andrewvos >
The way I wrote it just reads better
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andrewvos >
To me at least
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andrewvos >
Don't check in your .DS_Store files :)
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yorickpeterse >
.DS_Store in a Git repo is the best way to see if somebody sucks at Git or not
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yorickpeterse >
".GITIGNORE WOTS THAT M8"
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andrewvos >
Meh. Or ykk` is just new to these things.
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yorickpeterse >
the other way is when people use Git the normal way
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yorickpeterse >
because honestly Git has the most retarded UX ever
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yorickpeterse >
git checkout: change branch, create branch....undo a file!
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yorickpeterse >
BECAUSE THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE
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andrewvos >
does kinda
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yorickpeterse >
it does fucking not
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yorickpeterse >
especially since the syntax is anything but friendly
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yorickpeterse >
git checkout BRANCH, git checkout -b BRANCH (why the fuck -b?), git checkout -- some-file
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ykk` >
yeah i'm new to programming?
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yorickpeterse >
Don't get me wrong, Git is awesome in what it does
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yorickpeterse >
it's just that it's pretty darn complicated to explain/teach
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yorickpeterse >
or to remember
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andrewvos >
ykk`: Don't worry dude we're not making fun of you.
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ykk` >
andrewvos: ok np sis
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ykk` >
its ok to make fun of me i'm the newbie
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yorickpeterse >
we're not
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ykk` >
well you called me a dude
15:15
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yorickpeterse >
I make fun of code, not people
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yorickpeterse >
well besides when they're asses
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ykk` >
every time I get a dude I give back a sis
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andrewvos >
ykk`: oh right, I call evryone dude
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: andrew is half-british, he doesn't know any better
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andrewvos >
I'm bloody not
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yorickpeterse >
be glad he didn't call you bruv
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andrewvos >
Enough of your shit. I'm going to go drink some tea and eat a jaffa cake.
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ykk` >
this would be easier if i was able to see each entry and enter yes or no if i want them in the output file
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: euh what exactly are you trying to achieve?
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: tea is not a bad idea, brb
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andrewvos >
Jaffa cakes on the other hand, are disgusting.
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andrewvos >
ljarvis: Your jaffa cakes are what is wrong iwth england mate
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yorickpeterse >
the fuck is a jaffa cake
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ykk` >
filtering through the dbase but i'm so new. i fixed my regex to have a word boundary and the results are much better now!
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andrewvos >
That is a jaffa cake
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andrewvos >
The darker part inside is kind of a jelly
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<
andrewvos >
The chocolate isn't that nice either
15:23
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andrewvos >
So you're biting down into spongy stuff with jelly in the middle and chocolat on the other side. It is quite disturbing.
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andrewvos >
It's more solid than jelly though
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andrewvos >
It's jelly-like I guess.
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ykk` >
that look gooood
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ykk` >
too bad it's not vegan
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andrewvos >
It is not good.
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ykk` >
looks can be deceiving =(
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: that looks like a one way ticket to being overweight
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yorickpeterse >
* becoming
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whitequark >
oooooh so those are called jaffa cakes
15:30
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whitequark >
they are amazing
15:30
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whitequark >
the stuff inside is marmalade
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yorickpeterse >
well somebody should move to the UK
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andrewvos >
whitequark: You've had them?
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yorickpeterse >
pretty sure that amount of chocolate would give me the worst acne
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yorickpeterse >
(granted only a little bit is enough already)
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andrewvos >
What are you, 12
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: yes
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andrewvos >
How long do painkillers take? Got the worst headache
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whitequark >
andrewvos: yeah, they're sold in abundance in russia
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whitequark >
look exactly the same, not sure about taste though
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ddfreyne >
I used to be on a chat server where you got permabanned for saying anythign that even
*remotely* looked like the F-word. "jaffa_cakes" unfortunately was categorised as containing the F-word.
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: the more you take the faster they kick in
15:45
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yorickpeterse >
also not sitting behind a computer helps
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andrewvos >
In chrome advanced settings "Continue running background apps when chrome is closed". Err, what?
15:52
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yorickpeterse >
does exactly what it says, turn that shit of
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yorickpeterse >
* off
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yorickpeterse >
otherwise it keeps extensions and such alive
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ykk` >
i don't see that in my adv settings
15:57
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yorickpeterse >
oh shit, they're doing the Falcon launch right?
15:57
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yorickpeterse >
WOHOO
15:57
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yorickpeterse >
SPACE
15:57
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yorickpeterse >
shit I have 2 minutes to make my tea
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yorickpeterse >
my ears
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yorickpeterse >
ouch
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tbuehlmann >
awesome
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tbuehlmann >
what now? out of wifi range?
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banisterfiend >
yorickpeterse do u know if amsterdam has any nandos?
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yorickpeterse >
nandos?
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banisterfiend >
yorickpeterse spicy chicken food chain
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banisterfiend >
big in other countries :)
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yorickpeterse >
never heard of it but there are plenty of spicy food places
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andrewvos >
shit why does it drop connection all the time :(
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andrewvos >
AWATING VEHICLE DOWNLINK
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andrewvos >
these guys are so calm
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andrewvos >
if I got to do the countdown I would be like SHIT MOTHER FUCKERS HERE WO GO
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andrewvos >
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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yorickpeterse >
wuss
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andrewvos >
dmanit the line is so bad, what did they strap a cellphone to it?
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yorickpeterse >
probably an iPhone running iOS7
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yorickpeterse >
curious to see how they'll retrieve the Falcon
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yorickpeterse >
ah, here we go
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andrewvos >
Shit I was googling it hoping it was the one that can land itself
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yorickpeterse >
nah, the grasshopper isn't ready yet
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yorickpeterse >
wait that was it?
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andrewvos >
still going
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andrewvos >
why is tthe rocket not burning anymore?
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andrewvos >
guess it's orbiting
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yorickpeterse >
wait, are you lagging behind?
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yorickpeterse >
mine is now showing the presenters blapping
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andrewvos >
Aww man that's so cool
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I seriously chose the wrong profession
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andrewvos >
`rake release` isn't nearly as fun
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banisterfiend >
andrewvos what u watching bb
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andrewvos >
banisterfiend: Live launch of a rocket
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: "As part of todays demonstration #SpaceX is trying to softly splash the 1st stage in the ocean by restarting the 1st stage as it descends"
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banisterfiend >
yorickpeterse too late, he's already gone down the "web dev" path, there's no going back from that, brain already rotten ;)
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andrewvos >
Yeah they probably wouldn't hire someone who didn't finish school
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yorickpeterse >
meh, I was actually considering branching out to space stuff within the next 10 years
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: pretty sure that's bs
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erikh >
I know solid C programmers who have failed their interviews.
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erikh >
really solid C programmers.
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yorickpeterse >
also the new spacex website is pretty cool
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yorickpeterse >
much better than the previous one
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banisterfiend >
erikh probably give tricky interview questions "design data structure X with time complexity Y and space complexity Z"
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erikh >
yeah, other things are largely around language features
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erikh >
they're a C++ shop, so they can raise hell from the dregs
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erikh >
what's a friend, design a template that does x
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erikh >
I wasn't privy to the actual quesitons. just heard my friend frustrated by it
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erikh >
he's been in aerospace for a while so it was a pretty strong blow to his pride
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banisterfiend >
yorickpeterse interesting they have a 'software design' position and a 'software development' position, software design would be what? drawing out lots of UML? :)
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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erikh >
architect positions
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erikh >
write docs, design the overarching product
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erikh >
(so yes, more or lesS)
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erikh >
get involved when it gets hairy
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andrewvos >
heh software architects
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andrewvos >
"I'll just stop programming for a few years and then tell other programmers how to program" - Software Architects
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erikh >
dunno. some shops need that.
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banisterfiend >
i guess that's what CTOs do?
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erikh >
our CTO is a badass
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erikh >
and he codes mostly
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andrewvos >
Perhaps, but I often find that what some shops have is very different from what they need.
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banisterfiend >
erikh did you leave that advertising company you were working @ with ragg1 ?
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erikh >
yeah. i'm at a different one now
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erikh >
that one got bought by google
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: do keep in mind that this is like WAAAAY different compared to anything else
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banisterfiend >
nice
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yorickpeterse >
at least as far as I understand
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erikh >
yeah, raggi has a money bin in his backyard now
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banisterfiend >
erikh he had stocks in it?
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banisterfiend >
or he just got a huge bonus?
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andrewvos >
Anyway, that was pretty damn amazing. Those guys have the best jobs.
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erikh >
well yeah -- that's standard startup offer letter
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erikh >
some stock, some money
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. I'm pretty sure "fuck tests git push -f" gets you fired
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erikh >
actually our whole shop is largely a "fuck tests" shop
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erikh >
we just don't have time
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yorickpeterse >
erikh: I didn't expect otherwise from ops :>
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banisterfiend >
erikh where are you at now?
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erikh >
eh? not ops
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banisterfiend >
if u don't mind saying :)
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erikh >
the whole company
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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erikh >
banisterfiend: not really comfortable saying in here.
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yorickpeterse >
NSA
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yorickpeterse >
clearly
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yorickpeterse >
that or Microsoft :P
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erikh >
no, this is a public channel and it's none of everyone's business
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yorickpeterse >
unrelated news, can you somehow rescue from a stack error?
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yorickpeterse >
oh hm, solved that, now I bump into Hash.new { ... } not working when it's frozen
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yorickpeterse >
hmpf
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erikh >
stack error?
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erikh >
h.default_value = nil
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erikh >
something like that.
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erikh >
Hash#default_proc
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yorickpeterse >
the stack error was unrelated
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yorickpeterse >
I was trying to freeze self which would recursively call itself
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yorickpeterse >
(custom freeze method)
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erikh >
dat DelegateClass
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ddfreyne >
yorickpeterse: Been there, done that
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ddfreyne >
Upgrading my boss' blog from nanoc 3.x to nanoc 4.x \o/
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yorickpeterse >
aww yiss, deep freeze all the things
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yorickpeterse >
now I totally have immutable data structures
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yorickpeterse >
thus my performance will be 10x better, that's a fact
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yorickpeterse >
scientific research has also shown that static typing makes you more attractive to others
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ddfreyne >
yorickpeterse: I <3 immutable data
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yorickpeterse >
get yourself a t-shirt with "I'm statically typed" already
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yorickpeterse >
or "My ass is immutable" or w/e
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erikh >
person ddfreyne;
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ddfreyne >
I am just a small parameter in the f(world, timestamp) = world' function
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ddfreyne >
s/world/universe/
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yorickpeterse >
that's basically me during the weekends
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yorickpeterse >
(the playing music loud part)
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yorickpeterse >
and the whole moving-hands thing
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yorickpeterse >
man this show is great
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yorickpeterse >
shame it's not subtitled
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ykk` >
and sorry about the spacing it defaults to like 8!
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ykk` >
i set it to 2 but....
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yorickpeterse >
Array#uniq
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yorickpeterse >
e.g.
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yorickpeterse >
>> [10, 10, 20, 30]
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yorickpeterse >
>> [10, 10, 20, 30].uniq
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ykk` >
I am using Array#uniq
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ykk` >
but it's not working
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yorickpeterse >
hm, lets see
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: you're using tabs in that file, hence you're not seeing the changes
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yorickpeterse >
find-replace all the tabs with 2 spaces and you should be good to go
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ykk` >
yeah i checked the API first but can't get it to work
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yorickpeterse >
Hm, custom objects
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yorickpeterse >
you
*might* have to define your own #equals?/#== method (not sure which one is used by Array#uniq)
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yorickpeterse >
e.g.
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ykk` >
yeah should i include the Array class?
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yorickpeterse >
no, hold on
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ykk` >
ok i can do that
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ddfreyne >
#eql? and #==, not #equal?
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ykk` >
we're not comparing we're changing the array
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yorickpeterse >
ddfreyne: oh right
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: you need to compare first in order to determine what's unique
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ykk` >
but yeah can use that with delete if
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ykk` >
i also tried a block
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ykk` >
but .first isn't a method my custom obj can use
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ykk` >
did i say it right?
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ykk` >
you were right though for me to write my own unique method
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ykk` >
why not go with that?
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yorickpeterse >
gah wtf, Array#uniq doesn't seem to use #==, #eql? or others
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ddfreyne >
does it use #hash?
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yorickpeterse >
not sure
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ddfreyne >
(would surprise me)
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whitequark >
I think it uses #hash and #eql?
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whitequark >
pretty clear how it uses a hash internally.
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: in that case something like Array#reject might be easier
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ykk` >
i wonder how that would work
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: what would in this case define a art school as unique?
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yorickpeterse >
the address details?
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ykk` >
duplicate entries
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ykk` >
i have duplicates in my array
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: that I get
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yorickpeterse >
but what defines a duplicate, two schools with the same name? With the same name
*and* address details? etc
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: My new desktop :)
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ykk` >
with the same address and details
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ykk` >
name, address and details
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yorickpeterse >
give a block to #uniq (just learned that myself)
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yorickpeterse >
so in your case that would be something like
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yorickpeterse >
@art_schools.uniq { |school| school.name_with_address } # where you'd define `name_with_address` yourself
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: OH JESUS CHRIST
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: wha?
17:21
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yorickpeterse >
Don't tell me you've instantly become one of those tiling window manager neckbeards who show off their stuff by opening as many terminals as possible
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ykk` >
york i did that =(
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: haha
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: not entirely
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yorickpeterse >
ykk`: in #all_schools you call `@art_schools.to_a.uniq {|school| school.name}` but don't actually do anything with it
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yorickpeterse >
if you want to modify the array in place use Array#uniq!
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yorickpeterse >
@art_schools.to_a.uniq! { ... } # for example
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yorickpeterse >
(note the !)
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: srsly
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ykk` >
yay it worked
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: go to /r/unixporn and you'll see what I mean
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andrewvos >
I already posted it there
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yorickpeterse >
...
17:24
* yorickpeterse
did that too at some point
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yorickpeterse >
which I think is still pretty cluttered
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ykk` >
bang bang, thanks yorick!!!
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ykk`: np
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andrewvos >
I generally have quite a few terminal windows open. About 10
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andrewvos >
So that was minimal
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yorickpeterse >
10? what the fuck
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andrewvos >
all in tmux
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andrewvos >
but trying to not use tmux now
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yorickpeterse >
oh, that's less bad
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andrewvos >
just use i3
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yorickpeterse >
I thought actual windows
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yorickpeterse >
BRRZZZZT, you've become full linux
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yorickpeterse >
next thing you know you're ranting about lisp machines
17:30
* yorickpeterse
loves making fun of the Linux stereotypes
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andrewvos >
I noticed :)
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yorickpeterse >
I also never got those nerds that set their background to some half naked lady
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yorickpeterse >
or a car
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yorickpeterse >
or use coki
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yorickpeterse >
* conki
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yorickpeterse >
errr, conky
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yorickpeterse >
like, do you seriously spend all day looking at how much free disk space you have?
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yorickpeterse >
I guess rule 34 applies to it in some super twisted way
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yorickpeterse >
ljarvis: ping
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yorickpeterse >
ljarvis: hm nevermind, my question was stupid anyway
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ykk` >
do you think i can add a web crawler to this program?
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ykk` >
to goto each website with mechanize and use the search form to get me teachers name? i'm thinking doing it manually for 75 entries would be faster since websites aren't consistent
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yorickpeterse >
there are a bunch of existing Ruby crawlers out there
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yorickpeterse >
though I can't remember the names of any :?
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yorickpeterse >
* :/
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ykk` >
really? hmmm that would be cool to look at even if its not used in this program
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ykk` >
but what i'm imagining is not very realistic since the data may not even exist on the website
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yorickpeterse >
scraping in general is a huge pain due to every website doing things differently
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ykk` >
yeah that's true
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yorickpeterse >
but honestly I think that doing it manually would be faster too
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ykk` >
i always wanted to scrape some positive sayings and possibly even greetings and create some sort of ai for a bot on twitter
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ykk` >
make like 500 of them and make them all girls and see if i can get guys to fall in love with the bot
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yorickpeterse >
if you're targeting computer nerds that would only require 1 of them
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yorickpeterse >
but yeah, a good AI is a pretty neat thing to write
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yorickpeterse >
also hell tricky
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yorickpeterse >
Skynet is still on my list of things to write
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apeiros >
so you first work on HAL?
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andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: Yeah I had conky for a bit. Copied some config I found. Then realised I don't really care about anything other than the time :)
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yorickpeterse >
Hm, that reminds me that I still need to order myself an Epoc headset
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erikh >
what's that?
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yorickpeterse >
tl;dr brain wave headset
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erikh >
use the EmoKey
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yorickpeterse >
heh
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ddfreyne >
Yikes, I made up a long class name
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ddfreyne >
CodeSnippetModificationOutdatednessChecker
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ddfreyne >
It was an accident!
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ddfreyne >
Deprecated?!
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ddfreyne >
I just created it!
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erikh >
see also: github.com/erikh/deprecated
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ddfreyne >
That is kinda neat!
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erikh >
thanks! it's like, from 2004
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erikh >
nobody ever tried it, everyone's written a competing implementation of it
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ddfreyne >
Hmm, I wonder... suppose you have a few thousand strings and you want to check whether a given string is part of that
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ddfreyne >
You'd do that with a Set, usually.
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ddfreyne >
Now... if those strings are very similar (i.e. filesystem paths), is there a more memory-efficient solution that is still fast?
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ddfreyne >
I'm thinking about creating a matcher FSM for all this...
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ddfreyne >
Maybe converting it to a regex and optimising the regex.
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ddfreyne >
I am probably overthinking this :D
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erikh: "root authored 6 years ago"
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yorickpeterse >
y u git as root
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erikh >
yorickpeterse: because I can
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erikh >
actually I think I converted that from svn at that time
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ddfreyne >
I've been writing a surprisingly large amount of code in pure functional style lately.
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ddfreyne >
I've never mem-profiled it in general (although I do know the bottlenecks in Ruby)
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ddfreyne >
It'll be interesting to see how efficient this is
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whitequark >
ddfreyne: did you just use "pure functional" and "efficient" in the same sentence
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ddfreyne >
whitequark: I did :)
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: ddfreyne is probably doing drugs
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ddfreyne >
... am not!
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yorickpeterse >
You're in Berlin, chances are you're either squatting some building in the squatters district or doing drugs
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ddfreyne >
I am using pattern matching in Ruby too, actually :D
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yorickpeterse >
see?
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ddfreyne >
Though without decomposition.
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whitequark >
there ought to be much more pattern matching in languages around us
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whitequark >
did you know bjarne said pattern matching should be in C++? took him just 30 years
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yorickpeterse >
he was too busy nailing extra legs onto it in the mean time
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ddfreyne >
I would like Ruby to support def initialize(@foo, @bar) ; end
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yorickpeterse >
def initialize(foo, bar) : @foo(foo), @bar(bar) {};
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* yorickpeterse
runs
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ddfreyne >
This is why I didn't want to work together with you at the same company.
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yorickpeterse >
pffffff
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yorickpeterse >
you're just jealous that I get to deal with a broken MongoDB cluster
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yorickpeterse >
funny enough @hipsterhacker fav'd that tweet
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ddfreyne >
I don't think we use MongoDB...
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yorickpeterse >
I guess that means I'm famous now
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ddfreyne >
yorickpeterse: yeaaahhhh
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ddfreyne >
yorickpeterse: Do you use GPG consistently?
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ddfreyne >
yorickpeterse: If I send you encrypted e-mail, will you be annoyed?
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yorickpeterse >
No?
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yorickpeterse >
I mean I have everything set up to deal with it, I just don't use it since nobody around me uses it
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ddfreyne >
(Just out of curiousity)
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ddfreyne >
yorickpeterse: Do you sign your e-mails?
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yorickpeterse >
For a while I signed my Emails (lol most useless thing ever) but I got too many questions from people asking what that "signature.asc" attachment was
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erikh >
I remember once some guy with outlook thought it was a virus
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yorickpeterse >
There's also literally no point in randomly signing Emails
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erikh >
you can clearsign if you have a good client that supports it
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erikh >
(most don't)
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yorickpeterse >
I use it to sign off Gems and Git tags but that's about it these days
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yorickpeterse >
----BEGIN PGP BLOCK----
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ddfreyne >
erikh: clearsign?
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erikh >
ddfreyne: includes the signature inline in the email
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erikh >
with a PEM boundary in it so it can be parsed out easily
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ddfreyne >
Ahh, right.
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yorickpeterse >
I don't really use Email for super secret stuff anyway
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erikh >
I use my credentials repo :)
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ddfreyne >
What is that?
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yorickpeterse >
comic
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ddfreyne >
(credentials repo)
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yorickpeterse >
ddfreyne: why these questions anyway, do you intend to send me a self destructing GPG encrypted Email?
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yorickpeterse >
probably with the body "butts"
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erikh >
my view today
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erikh >
ddfreyne: a thing I made
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yorickpeterse >
erikh: is that your neighbor's pool?
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yorickpeterse >
if so, why are you in their backyard?
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erikh >
yorickpeterse: it's my apartment building's pool
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yorickpeterse >
wat
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yorickpeterse >
you have a motherfucking pool?
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erikh >
it's california
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erikh >
almost every place has a pool here.
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erikh >
it's heated, too
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yorickpeterse >
wat
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ddfreyne >
I am jealous :(
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: erikh is slightly poorer than larry ellison
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yorickpeterse >
why the fuck would you have a heated pool?
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erikh >
yorickpeterse: ever swim in a heated pool?
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: who the fuck is that?
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erikh >
it's niiiiice
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yorickpeterse >
erikh: no
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erikh >
he is so mad
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erikh >
anyhow, back in a bit
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yorickpeterse >
the Oracle dude
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yorickpeterse >
(I'm terrible at names)
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ddfreyne >
You are almost at the bottom of my list of GPG keys, yorickpeterse
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yorickpeterse >
you know somebody who's first name start with a Z ?
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ddfreyne >
yugui is in there too :)
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yorickpeterse >
who?
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ddfreyne >
yugui, Ruby committer
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ddfreyne >
She's often around in #ruby-lang iirc
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ddfreyne >
I don't know why I have her key
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yorickpeterse >
I have 2 keys listed
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yorickpeterse >
one is my own, the other one is a key of that openpgp-ca-whatever experiment
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yorickpeterse >
also fuck this I'm playing vidya, toodles
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Barrin6 >
Hello all
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Barrin6 >
took me a while to figure out why I couldn't send to channel
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Barrin6 >
for anyone wondering how to register
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apeiros >
Barrin6: hm, topic used to contain that
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Barrin6 >
ah oh wlel
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Barrin6 >
I'm halfway through code academy Ruby
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Barrin6 >
almost pro! :D
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ddfreyne >
whitequark: ping
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ddfreyne >
lib/parser.rb:53:in `require': cannot load such file -- parser/lexer (LoadError)
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ddfreyne >
whitequark: Nevermind. Bundler with :git => ... does not work with parser :<
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ddfreyne >
whitequark: Do you also have an AST matcher library?
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Barrin6 >
for ruby you can write "puts "Oh no!" unless true"
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Barrin6 >
but how does it know which value is false or true?
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Barrin6 >
shouldn't it be ' puts "oh No!" unless value=false
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_rgn >
foo unless <expression> == do foo unless the expression evaluates to true
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apeiros >
Barrin6: the value `true` is true
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apeiros >
and `value=false` assigns false to the local variable `value`
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apeiros >
(and evaluates to `false` in turn)
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Barrin6 >
so I just learned about implicit return
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Barrin6 >
so my question is
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Barrin6 >
why would anyone ever use "return" if they can just omit it
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Barrin6 >
and use implicit return
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<
apeiros >
premature return
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zenspider >
ddfreyne: what type of matching do you need?
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erikh >
well he's wearing red
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<
erikh >
where's that color wheel...
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