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<zzak> :o
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<Barrin6> hello all
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<Barrin6> just started learning about "case"
<Barrin6> it's amazing
<Barrin6> to clean up if/else
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<Andrevan> use those sparingly imho
<Andrevan> you might do better refactoring into other objects if you have one crazy class with a huge case statemtn
<Barrin6> I don't get what you said, but I'll try and remember since it might make sense later
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<Andrevan> haha ok
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<Andrevan> basically case statements aren't as cool as they look :)
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<Barrin6> oh no
<Barrin6> they arne't?!
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<Barrin6> they are better than those if/elsif statements
<erikh> they're not better, just different
<erikh> few things are "better" in programming
<Barrin6> just different hmm
<erikh> there's no a larger language or a control structure with more horsepower
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<Barrin6> yo macs
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<Barrin6> you just pmed me and i tried to replied but you changed your nick
<Barrin6> pm me again if you need instructions
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<Barrin6> hmm seems like everyone hates on code academy here
<Barrin6> you guys ever go through "Learn Ruby the hard way"
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<erikh> no, but zed is good folks
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<Barrin6> yea I kinda like his tutorial
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<Barrin6> I'm blazing through it right now because I have already been taking code academy
<Barrin6> and his writing style is hilarious
<macsplean> hello everyone. what is the point of using ARGV.first? why not just regular ARGV?
<Barrin6> hey mac, did you pm me earlier?
<Barrin6> sorry I couldn't reply back in time
<erikh> you have to register
<macsplean> yeah i was trying to figure out how to talk in this channel
<erikh> it's the first section of the topic
<Barrin6> and I don't understand your question
<macsplean> took a while, but i figured it out
<macsplean> basically like why would someone write first.ARGV and not ARGV
<macsplean> whoops i mean ARGV.first
<Barrin6> sorry, the question is out of mys cope
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<Barrin6> scope*
<erikh> ARGV is an array
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<erikh> to take the first argument, you can ARGV[0] or ARGV.first
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<macsplean> o ok i see
<macsplean> thanks
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<Barrin6> I am going to finish code academy then work on "Learning Ruby the hard way"
<Barrin6> hopefully then I'll start jumping into programming basics
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<crankharder> having some trouble with puppet and bundler. puppet is telling me my bundle command executes successfully but there's no vendor/bundle directory created. also, both the test files in this line are created. any ideas on how else I can troubleshoot this?
<crankharder> puppet output and command: ** [out :: jsharpe@192.168.1.138] notice: /Exec[echo first > /tmp/first.txt && bundle install --deployment --without development test && echo second > /tmp/second.txt && true]/returns: executed successfully
<Andrevan> seems like a puppet question crankharder
<erikh> yeah that's puppet
<erikh> #puppet
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<crankharder> seems weird that all these cmds are executed though... all puppet really checks is the exit code
<crankharder> i'll ask there though
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<crankharder> regarding that earlier question, I got some more cap output... and it seems that bundler is ignoring the --path option when it's being executed from within cap/puppet. I can't imagine puppet resetting that though
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<MouseTheLuckyDog> In hpricot. I've retrieve a page element call it "foo". I would like a attribute of the parent element. How do I obtain it?
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<gnufied> does anyone know a decent http-parser?
<whitequark> gnufied: mongrel has one
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<gnufied> yes, but I need to extract it.
<gnufied> that one can't straight up parse PATCH requests
<gnufied> throws error
<gnufied> parses PATCH requests but has asinine API
<whitequark> extract it from mongrel :p
<gnufied> fun thing is - both use same library underneath
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<gnufied> :(
<gnufied> I suspect http_parser.rb just needs embedded http_parser c library to be updated
<gnufied> it is using quite old one
<gnufied> But a non-working http parser! come on, this 2013
<gnufied> we survived end of world and we don't have a working http parser
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<darix> gnufied: why not use the same library that mongrel, thin and puma are using?
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<gnufied> they are not using a library
<gnufied> they all have different patched together bits of code that they have vendored in ext/ directory
<gnufied> I suppose by library you mean "something that I can simply require or link against and use"
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<gnufied> probably I will have to do the same. But dislike the idea.
<gnufied> its like rails shipping with its own json and xml parser
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<gnufied> and other frameworks with their own
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> monday morning merge conflicts
<yorickpeterse> GOING IN!
<yorickpeterse> ddfreyne: yeah you're gonna have to wait with that encrypted Email until I get back home
<yorickpeterse> I don't have any private keys here at $WORK
<yorickpeterse> also this message better not contain the literal text "butts"
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<corecode> hi
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<corecode> is there a trick to make extension-less ruby scripts execute correctly under windows?
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<yorickpeterse> oh neat, there's some code here that 1) doesn't have any tests 2) is used in production 3) doesn't work
<yorickpeterse> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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<maloik> poke zzak
<maloik> around? :)
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<maloik> corecode: what I can remember from my windows days is that you can wrap it in another script that doesn't require an extension, a dos/cmd script or whatever they are called
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<yorickpeterse> the proper solution is to not use windows :3
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<maloik> yorickpeterse: that's what I did too :D
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<yorickpeterse> grrrrr, I don't like it when people do this:
<yorickpeterse> foobar(...).
<yorickpeterse> baz
<yorickpeterse> no indentation, just a fucking newline
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<yorickpeterse> HAHA
<yorickpeterse> a group by that doesn't do a count
<yorickpeterse> and the code then expects it to return the right value
<yorickpeterse> man I really need to start being a giant reasonable asshole again around here
<yorickpeterse> (that is, in the office0
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<corecode> maloik: aha, thanks
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<yorickpeterse> does anybody know if it's possible to query shit in AR without having to go through AR models?
<yorickpeterse> e.g. I want to count some values but there's no point for it to create a single model instance
<yorickpeterse> e.g. select(...).where(...).group(...) # => [#<HerpDerpYourModel] # <- this is useless
<yorickpeterse> Ah derp, I can just use SQL methods on the connection
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<whitequark> grrr. whoever here said that only ruby has weird and uninformative names: look at python
<whitequark> "twisted.spread.flavors.Serializable"
<whitequark> wat
<whitequark> "twisted.spread.jelly.Jellyable" WAT
<workmad3> hehe
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<lupine> I have a ruby class called MigrationWatch
<whitequark> Jellyable, my ass.
<lupine> of which I am inordinately proud
<workmad3> whitequark: can your wrap that in peanut butter?
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: you know what I like about Python?
<yorickpeterse> '-'.join(['herp', 'derp'])
<yorickpeterse> join array you must
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<ykk`> hrmmm
<yorickpeterse> also bah, hotels in Paris are insanely expensive
<ykk`> trying to write to a new external file but it's writing the instance variables and the containing strings when all i want is the strings
<ykk`> ooo paris?
<ykk`> you're in the hotel now? or shopping for one?
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<yorickpeterse> No, shopping for one for http://www.dotrb.eu/
<yorickpeterse> but I'm not really looking forward to paying ~150 EUR per night
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<ndrst> yay thats a lot
<ndrst> 4 star hotel?
<ykk`> 150 euro per night? that sounds decent for paris
<ykk`> are you not from a big city?
<bougyman> seems high
<bougyman> I paid $80/night at the paris airport
<ykk`> i'm in nyc and that's the average stay of a night 200-225 USD
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<bougyman> er 80 EU
<ykk`> even 250
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<bougyman> ykk`: when?
<bougyman> in NYC I was paying over $300 for a 3 star
<bougyman> 4 star was $500+
<ykk`> really? damn
<bougyman> especially now.
<ykk`> next time i'll have recommendations for you
<bougyman> the trump is over $1k/night for their shittiest room
<yorickpeterse> ykk`: I did expect it, but I don't like it
<yorickpeterse> I can afford it, I just don't want to :P
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<ykk`> don't blame you
<bougyman> what's ridiculous in paris are the cabs.
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<bougyman> I paid 100EU to get from the airport to disney
<bougyman> and another 120 to get from disney to the eiffel
<ykk`> hotel on thompson is nice and there is on other that i'm blanking on
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<yorickpeterse> oh, if I have to travel a distance > 2KM I'll just grab a bike
<havenwood> bougyman: take the RER
<yorickpeterse> I'm trying to find close to the venue though, which happens to be an expensive area :<
<bougyman> havenwood: nice story about that.
<bougyman> they sent me the wrong direction on the train.
<bougyman> fucking parisians.
<ndrst> anyone at the arrrrcamp this week?
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<ykk`> in the output file i'm getting @instance_var="string" when all I need is string
<lupine> avoid large cities ^^
<lupine> also avoid driving in paris
<ykk`> does anyone have any suggestions?
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<yorickpeterse> ykk`: you can use the CSV module to actually generate a CSV
<ykk`> she's going to import it to Word to make labels
<ykk`> and i'm going to have to manually add contact names to it later
<lupine> reader.schools_no_website.each { |a|
<lupine> a.name; a.address; a.city; a.state; a.zip;
<lupine> }
<andrewvos> What's a good way to allow only connections from a certain ip address?
<andrewvos> iptables?
<bougyman> yeah.
<lupine> I'm guessing you don't actually want .each there
<bougyman> in linux, anyway
<lupine> iptables is fine for small access lists, add ipset for larger ones
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: install ufw
<yorickpeterse> prevents you from killing yorself
<yorickpeterse> * yourself
<ykk`> thanks Yorick i'll use the CSV class
* lupine is using that at the moment
<lupine> delicious data import
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<lupine> there's a fastcsv too, IIRC, which works for massive sets
<yorickpeterse> you mean fastercsv?
<yorickpeterse> Wasn't that 1.8 only?
<lupine> my memories are vague
<lupine> "1.8 only" is still useful to me, sadly
<yorickpeterse> alas poor lupine
<lupine> we're getting there, slowly
<yorickpeterse> nobody ever gets that joke when I make it using my own name
<yorickpeterse> "what do you mean you knew yorick well?"
<lupine> personal stuff is 2.0 these days
<lupine> should be able to drag work onto 1.9 sometime
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: thanks
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw allow PROTOCOL
<yorickpeterse> e.g. sudo ufw allow ssh
<yorickpeterse> or just the port
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<yorickpeterse> bah, even some of our customers are booked in Paris
<yorickpeterse> grrrrr, there goes my potential discount
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<erikh> andrewvos: iptables -F; iptables -I INPUT -s your_ip_here/32 -p tcp -j ACCEPT; iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED; iptables -P INPUT REJECT
<erikh> andrewvos: iptables -F; iptables -I INPUT -s your_ip_here/32 -p tcp -j ACCEPT; iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT; iptables -P INPUT REJECT
<erikh> there.
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: see, he just told you to go fuck yourself
<erikh> maybe he wants to learn something about unix instead of bitching in irc all day
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<erikh> (happy to explain how that works andrewvos )
<yorickpeterse> that's like telling somebody they need to memorize the `tar` manual in order to learn Unix
<yorickpeterse> if you just want to get shit done then iptables is probably the worst
<ykk`> i hate gist, i keep entering tab size 2 and it gives me friggin' 8
<yorickpeterse> (mind you it's otherwise a very useful tool to know)
<ykk`> like wtf really
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<ykk`> anyway i am getting no method error for << with CSV.open {&block}
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<ljarvis> gahindentation
<erikh> yeah, dude
<erikh> I know the tar manual pretty well
<erikh> kind of matters and stuff when you're in a rush
<yorickpeterse> hey so do I, but it wasn't exactly easy
<ykk`> how am is someone supposed to fix that? what am i doing wrong with the indents for gist to default to 8 spaces
<erikh> well avoiding it isn't going to help matters.
<yorickpeterse> ykk`: probably your input is off, Gist doesn't change it unless you manually type new stuff
<ljarvis> well, it does stuff
<ljarvis> this is a good candidate for having attribute readers that do special stuff
<ykk`> well it does
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<ljarvis> ie def art_schools; @art_schools.uniq(&:name); end
<ykk`> not in that file
<ljarvis> ykk`: line 40 does nothing helpful to you
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<ljarvis> nothing
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<ykk`> ??
<erikh> good code review is good
<ykk`> sorry some of the other people knew where am at in the project so i didn't post the github with support files
<ykk`> thank you for the help and scolding Ljarvis
<erikh> no scolding
<erikh> just solid criticism
<erikh> !
<ykk`> solid_criticism == scolding
<erikh> ok fair enough :)
<ykk`> haha
<ljarvis> ykk`: line 40 does not mutate @art_schools in place like you probably want it to, so line 41 (where you loop through them) means there make be non-unique values present
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<ljarvis> may be*
<ljarvis> also, your read_in_csv_data should be split into 3 methods, which will make it much easier to debug
<ykk`> mutate?
<ljarvis> eh
<erikh> change
<ljarvis> change.
<erikh> mutation is change
<ykk`> yeah just learned that
<erikh> \o/
<ljarvis> great
<ljarvis> so now can you see line 40 does nothing for you?
<ykk`> no
<ljarvis> you still think it's doing something?
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<ykk`> yeah it's outputting the string to my screen so i can read it
<ljarvis> that line does not mutate @art_schools so @art_schools is no different before and after that line of code
<ljarvis> no its not
<ykk`> i'm not mutating it
<ljarvis> that's line 42
<ljarvis> I just told you that
<erikh> is line 40.
<ykk`> it removed all dupes
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<ljarvis> no, it did not
<erikh> ykk`: the problem is that the uniq doesn't change art_schools. it just returns a new version of art_schools with the changes applied.
<ljarvis> ykk`> i'm not mutating it
<ljarvis> you said yourself
<erikh> so it's effectively not doing anything.
<erikh> (other than wasting CPU and ram)
<ykk`> ahh ok
<erikh> so you can use assignment to fix this
<erikh> how would it look?
<erikh> @art_schools.to_a.uniq {|school| school.name}
<erikh> is the line
<erikh> show me what a fix would look like
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<erikh> oh, no, you have to change that whole method
<ljarvis> (I mentioned a reader might help with this)
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<erikh> well, he could just join the two lines and remove hte intermediate variable
<ljarvis> yep
<erikh> dat method chaining
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<erikh> ykk`: still with us bro?
<ykk`> erikh are you trying to get me to rage?
<erikh> eh?
<erikh> by helping you?
<erikh> yes, I always piss people off by volunteering experience and assistance
<ykk`> why do you insist on calling me bro and crap
<erikh> ah
<erikh> we're done
<erikh> enjoy your learning.
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<ykk`> well i'm a girl not a bro you keep doing that O_o
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<ykk`> ykk like the zipper.. == girl
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<toretore> why is zipper == girl?
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<ykk`> thank you everyone for help, sorry for asking stupid questions. Still need more time learning
<yorickpeterse> these aren't stupid questions
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<erikh> ykk`: you mistook my goal in discussing with you, but I am actually out of time for today. Maybe tomorrow if you need help we can get off on a better foot.
<erikh> I don't really try to concern myself with the gender of people on irc much.
<erikh> office wakes up in about 20 minutes.
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<threedaymonk> erikh: the trouble is that calling people "bro" isn't not concering oneself with gender, it's assuming that everyone is male by default. Best to avoid such gender-specific language.
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<erikh> I don't give a fuck
<erikh> don't lecture me on your stupid reddit bullshit.
<threedaymonk> well, you should.
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<banisterfiend> blergh
<workmad3> banisterfiend: evenin' bro
<banisterfiend> yo
<banisterfiend> hehe
<erikh> heh
<banisterfiend> i'm highly offended by that, what if my sister was using my computer at the time?
<erikh> banisterfiend: omg my mom called me bro once
<erikh> I should call the police
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<erikh> get a 60 year old lady arrested
<erikh> SOCIAL JUSTICE
<banisterfiend> my female friends call each other 'dude' and don't get their panties in a twist over it :)
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<workmad3> "I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes!"
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<yxhuvud> at least dude could easily be redefined to be totally gender neutral, as opposed to bro.
<banisterfiend> yxhuvud bro is totally gender neutral in new zealand
<banisterfiend> everyone calls each other bro
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<banisterfiend> yxhuvud same with 'man' :)
<banisterfiend> 'hey man', fine to use on girls
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<lupine> english is bad at gendered words
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<banisterfiend> but really, there's much more interesting things to spend your time getting upset over
<erikh> don't forget dudebro
<erikh> dudebro, when spoken near someone that's too sensitive makes eyeballs pop out and heads explode
<erikh> (or maybe they just turn into humorless twats but close enough)
<threedaymonk> Really, it's just about not needlessly alienating people. Like just happened.
<erikh> yes, because that's exactly what happened
<banisterfiend> this is why i prefer to work remotely for american companies than actually move to america
<erikh> someone didn't flip out by misunderstanding my intent and I got annoyed by having to deal with personal dramas in a programming channel
<banisterfiend> they are waaay too uptight over there
<erikh> ^
<erikh> and I live here.
<erikh> make some more shit up bro
<erikh> anyhow
<erikh> time to /disconnect for a bit
* threedaymonk remembers when Rubyists were nice.
* banisterfiend remembers when inadvertently calling someone 'bro' didn't cause world war 3
<workmad3> weren't both of those times '10 minutes ago'? :P
<lupine> "remember when #ruby-lang was good?"
<lupine> "#ruby-lang was never good"
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<toretore> how about just declaring "bro" and "dude" inappropriate on their own merits as opposed to their gender inneutrality?
<toretore> #ruby-lang has always been pretty good
<toretore> not too broified
<andrewvos> wat
<andrewvos> this is happening
<yxhuvud> #ruby-lang was darned nice before rails
<lupine> fine. I'll be "cunt", you can be "homie"
<toretore> there are too many rubyists nowadays :(
<toretore> "rubyists"
<andrewvos> there are too many whiny fucks nowadays in my opinion
<andrewvos> you people know there are being killed all over the world?
<andrewvos> +people
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* lupine puts down the sword, looks guilty
<lupine> how did you find out?
<toretore> a statement relying on itself for proof, neat.
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<andrewvos> lupine: I am behind you
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<yorickpeterse> well, seems I leave for a few minutes and this channel's IQ drops to 50
<yorickpeterse> somehow I'm not surprised
<andrewvos> heh
<andrewvos> now it's back up to 59
<andrewvos> <3
<yorickpeterse> at least I don't miss the point of dude/bro, but w/e
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<andrewvos> home time laters
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: u goin' for a run m8?
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<ljarvis> goin for a ruby
<ljarvis> (a ruby murray)
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<apeiros> hey girls, how're you all doing?
<apeiros> s/hey/hi/
<ljarvis> har
<apeiros> hm, actually…I should have said:
<apeiros> hi sis', how're you all doing?
<ljarvis> that makes no sense
<apeiros> why's that?
<apeiros> bro stems from brother, no? so sis for sister
<ljarvis> hi sis' meaning short for plural sisters? because it reads as singular which screws up 'all'
<apeiros> ah, hm
<apeiros> hi sters
<ljarvis> good work
<ljarvis> perhaps next time you'll nail it
<apeiros> way to ruin a joke :D
<ljarvis> :D
<toretore> sissies?
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<apeiros> I'm awesome that way.
<toretore> that way it's sexist in two ways
<apeiros> No punch line survives contact with me.
<ljarvis> all ur jokes r belong to me
<apeiros> toretore: wait, what? no, it's totally gender neutral.
<ljarvis> toretore: bro dont be racist
<toretore> apeiros: i meant sissies as a plural for sis
<toretore> also implying that women are weak
<apeiros> I understood the first, I don't get the latter.
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<apeiros> maybe you think further than I thought
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<apeiros> you mean "it implies women are weak", because otherwise it wouldn't be derogatory when used against men?
<toretore> i'm always on the forefront of chauvinistic though
<toretore> t
<apeiros> I always thought 'sissy' comes from the austrian princess 'sissi'
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<redgetan> hi guys, im looking vm_core.h, and I don't understand how GC_GUARDED_PTR_REF works. can someone explain it to me :)
<redgetan> #define GC_GUARDED_PTR_REF(p) ((void *)(((VALUE)(p)) & ~0x03))
<redgetan> how is this different from RB_GC_GUARD_PTR in ruby.h?
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<yorickpeterse> redgetan: might be worth asking this on the mailing list, more MRI people usually read that
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<redgetan> yorick: oki
<canton7> I'm sure somewhere documentes what the lower 2 bits of pointers are used for in MRI
<canton7> *documents
<canton7> I remember reading it... can't remember what those bits are used for, though
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<yorickpeterse> internal docs...mri..lol
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<canton7> hmm, http://kurtstephens.com/node/52 looks hopeful
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<NemesisD> anyone know anything about rake rules? i can't for the life of me get it to operate in another dir
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<apeiros> nobody knows anything
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<NemesisD> rule(".csv.gz" => ".csv") {|t| sh "gzip -c #{t.source} > #{t.name}"}; task :compress_csv => Rake::FileList["#{CSV_DIR}/*.csv"].ext(".csv.gz")
<NemesisD> running that i always get Don't know how to build task '/home/michael/warpmetrics_exports/hi.csv.gz'
<NemesisD> so its like it can't synthesize the task for the compressed version
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<yorickpeterse> NemesisD: it needs filenames
<yorickpeterse> not just extensions
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<NemesisD> yorickpeterse: i thought the whole point of "rule" was to not deal with specific filenames
<yorickpeterse> oh wait, it can do extensions too
<yorickpeterse> hm
<yorickpeterse> Somehow I thought it required filenames
<yorickpeterse> ignore me, I'm a dumbass
<yorickpeterse> I need my tea
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<NemesisD> rake baffles me
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<yorickpeterse> ddfreyne: I hate you
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<ddfreyne> yorickpeterse: Wait, what?
<NemesisD> anyone? the documentation seems to indicate that rake can do this
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<canton7> NemesisD, rule(".csv.gz" => [".csv"]) ?
<canton7> just in case that makes a difference..
<yorickpeterse> ddfreyne: check your Email in a few minutes
<canton7> also rule('.csv.gz' => [ proc { |tn| ... }]), return the right stuff from the proc, but make sure it's being called at the right time with the right argument?
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<NemesisD> canton7: i don't see why i'd have to do the proc syntax. here's my dead simple case: http://pastie.org/8367643
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<NemesisD> can't get any simpler than that. i don't know what i'm doing wrong
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<NemesisD> wow
<NemesisD> it is because rake doesn't understand files with multiple extensions
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<canton7> NemesisD, I'm more interested in seeing when the proc's being called, and with what
<ddfreyne> yorickpeterse: You used your own pubkey instead of mine
<NemesisD> if i make it rule ".gz" => [".csv"] it works, but obviously names my files incorrectly
<canton7> NemesisD, aha! So yeah, rule with a regex and a proc
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<NemesisD> ugh
<NemesisD> well i think i'm actually lucky in that if you just to gzip file.csv it will generate file.csv.gz
<NemesisD> so i might be able to get by without anyting crazy
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<yorickpeterse> ddfreyne: exactly
<yorickpeterse> decrypt that motherfucker
<yorickpeterse> but fine, I'll use yours to at least give you a chance
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<yorickpeterse> The problem with PGP:
<yorickpeterse> "[...] You will need someone to help you with this. Learning how to get people's keys from a keyserver is an important skill to develop [...]"
<yorickpeterse> GEE I LOVE RECURSIVE PROBLEMS
* yorickpeterse actually has to fucking Google how to *not* encrypt shit using his own keys only
<ddfreyne> Usability-wise it's a bit of a mess
<ddfreyne> yorickpeterse: wait, what? That is weird.
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<yorickpeterse> "Trust: untrusted" MOTHERFUCKING ENIGMAIL, I SET IT TO MARGINALLY
<yorickpeterse> FFS
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<yorickpeterse> This is why I don't recommend GPG
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<yorickpeterse> it's fucking impossible
<ddfreyne> MacGPG is nice.
<yorickpeterse> POS, can't fucking encrypt an Email easily in 2013
<yorickpeterse> "OOOOH NNOOOOO BUT IMAGINE IF YOU'D TRUST A KEY YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT"
<yorickpeterse> Nobody gives a fuck about the trust level, average joe will just set it to either the minimum or the maximum
<yorickpeterse> It's not "Hm, let me verify that" no it's "FUCK THIS I WANT TO WRITE AN EMAIL"
<yorickpeterse> ugh
* yorickpeterse flips table
<yorickpeterse> (which is quite hard since it weights 40kg)
<yorickpeterse> I lift
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<yorickpeterse> ok now I signed it, this bitch better fucking work
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<yorickpeterse> OH YEAH NOW IT TRUSTS IT
<yorickpeterse> THAT MAKES TOTAL FUCKING SENSE
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<ddfreyne> Someone sounds angry :D
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: how about taking your rage somewhere else
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: no
<yorickpeterse> ddfreyne: here sent you an Email, good luck decrypting my roflcrypto
<yorickpeterse> (hint you'll need Ruby)
<yorickpeterse> meanwhile, this is pretty cool http://aasen.in/github_globe/
<ddfreyne> I don't feel like it :(
<yorickpeterse> though colours being inverse makes it hard to digest
<whitequark> yeah, the 600 or so #r-l participants are definitely very interested
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<yorickpeterse> #r-l?
<whitequark> #ruby-lang.
<yorickpeterse> there's only 358 people here
<yorickpeterse> also I'm pretty sure those can speak for themselves
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<whitequark> I just did.
<yorickpeterse> big whoop
<apeiros> #real-life
<apeiros> naaaaa, that doesn't exist on irc
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<yorickpeterse> apeiros: pretty sure most of it are just bots logging channels
<enebo> I hear these things a lot on #gpgrage
<yorickpeterse> wait there's actually a channel for that?
<enebo> :)
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<enebo> They need to add a unicode troll head guy I think
<yorickpeterse> enebo: LIAR, there's no such channel
<enebo> muhahaha…perhaps there should be though
<yorickpeterse> You know, judofyr did that tail-f blog thing, I should probably start a rants section on my website
<yorickpeterse> Oh my god, that's genious (inb4 the rest of the internet)
<yorickpeterse> maybe I'll actually make it to HackerNews for once and get venture capital
<enebo> yorickpeterse: nothing brings in VC money like internet ranting :)
<yorickpeterse> exactly, just throw some buzzwords in and you're golden
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<redgetan> canton7: tnx for the kurt stepehens link :)
<momomomomo> Nothing brings in HN points like "I quit doing #{x}, you should too!"
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<yorickpeterse> wohoo, another Rails girls event to help with
<yorickpeterse> granted it's in February
<yorickpeterse> momomomomo: stuff like "Why I rewrote X in {Lisp,Go}" also works pretty well
<yorickpeterse> at least it will give pg a massive hardon
<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: I've been on the edge of wanting to learn Go, but it just seems like I can solve most of my work with ruby, and nothing is incredibly data/thread/work intensive except for some background tasks
<yorickpeterse> it's a hype, it will fade out in a year or two
<yorickpeterse> then everybody jumps on the Lua train or something
<yorickpeterse> or maybe Foundry if whitequark can actually release some code for once :>
<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: I've been on the lua train for a little while, but I don't use it often except for messing around with https://love2d.org
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<yorickpeterse> Lua is actually pretty neat, though it's domain is a bit too specific for me
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<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: aye.
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<yorickpeterse> what I don't like is how they don't have some official public repository though
<yorickpeterse> that and how there's only like 20 packages available on Luarocks, which is a domain problem I guess
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<momomomomo> lol yorickpeterse what is ruby gems? Surely not 'official'
<yorickpeterse> No, I mean as in the repository of the source code
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<yorickpeterse> oh and apparently Luarocks has 313 packages
<havenwood> i'm kinda surprised how many Rubyists are also Gophers when i'd expect Clojurist or Scalite would be more grokable
<yorickpeterse> Those run on the JVM
<yorickpeterse> Therefor it's evil
<yorickpeterse> (apparently)
<yorickpeterse> Go has static binaries!!111
<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: I see 626 on the main repo :) http://luarocks.org/repositories/rocks/
<havenwood> mm, JVMphobia may indeed be the culprit
<yorickpeterse> huh
<havenwood> is fear of the JVM irrational?
<yorickpeterse> momomomomo: did you count separate versions too?
<havenwood> >.>
<yorickpeterse> I basically did...
<yorickpeterse> document.querySelectorAll('.package').length
<yorickpeterse> (lol)
<havenwood> not sure it is technically a phobia or not :P
<yorickpeterse> havenwood: depends on what part you fear
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<havenwood> one more commit and it becomes SkyNet and kills us all...
<havenwood> ^ that part
<yorickpeterse> Write once, control everywhere
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<yorickpeterse> (could be a bad line for the NSA)
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<yorickpeterse> oh...my...god...it all makes sense
<yorickpeterse> * now
<yorickpeterse> Java is secretly written by the NSA so that it has an easy backdoor everywhere
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<momomomomo> yorickpeterse: fair enough, i just counted the rows, which seem to map directly to package
<momomomomo> plus or minus 1/2 at the top/bottom of table
<momomomomo> oh shit, + 1 for each item
<momomomomo> 313 it is
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<imperator> I don't think it's fear of the JVM; I think it's because Clojure is FP and Scala is kinda...byzantine. And Go is reminiscent of C.
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* yorickpeterse is dealing with Chrome caches
<yorickpeterse> or HTML5 appcaches, unsure yet
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<lrzuniga> hi
<lrzuniga> is this appropriate channel for newbie questions?
<yorickpeterse> yes
<lrzuniga> thanks…just ruby or rails too?
<yorickpeterse> rails preferrably in #rails/#rubyonrails (not sure which one it was) but basic stuff is fine here too
<lrzuniga> ah
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<lrzuniga> ill try #rails first
<apeiros> not #rails
<apeiros> #rubyonrails or #ror
<apeiros> #rails is mostly empty
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<lrzuniga> enough people to get mocked
<yorickpeterse> seriously?
<yorickpeterse> pastie it
<lrzuniga> "response.mock is nil (the stub is not used)"
<lrzuniga> meh
* lrzuniga goes back to googling
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<yorickpeterse> eh?
<yorickpeterse> Just ask your question in here if some neckbeard didn't want to help
<lrzuniga> thanks..I figured out why bundle exec guard was complaining
<lrzuniga> i was in the wrong directory
<yorickpeterse> heh
<yorickpeterse> silly things like that will happen, a lot
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<yorickpeterse> damn it, he could've made a pefect Terminator reference
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<ggherdov> hello. What does it mean if I -do- have rake since `which rake` gives "/home/me/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p247@global/bin/rake"
<ggherdov> but running `rake` causes a "Could not find rake-10.0.4 in any of the sources [...]" error?
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<sluukkonen> ggherdov: 2.0.0-p247 comes with rake 10.0.1 while your Gemfile specifies 10.0.4. try running it with bundle exec rake.
<ggherdov> sluukkonen: thanks
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<zenspider> or just specify "~> 10.0" since it is doubtful it matters much anyways. overspecifying versions in gemfiles is lame
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<sluukkonen> discourse probably ships with a Gemfile.lock
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<erikh> yorickpeterse: I am not a neckbeard because I refuse to play to your aggravating histrionics
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<erikh> stop pushing my buttons.
<zenspider> erikh: what's up?
<erikh> he's just being yorick, antagonizing me
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<zenspider> taking to PM
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<zenspider> wtf erc...
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