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<wens> mripard: are you doing dts for hummingbird?
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<wens> sdk and schematics for hummingbird
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<wens> if someone could upload this to dl.linux-sunxi.org
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<maksimlin> wens: thats very useful! thanks heaps for posting those for the hummingbird
<maksimlin> and for the fex patch
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<maksimlin> wens: the sdk is the usual huge aosp - is it ok I d/l direct from your url or should I wait til it gets uploaded to dl.linux-sunxi.org ?
<wens> you can download directly
<wens> I just want it put in linux-sunxi so everyone can find it
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<maksimlin> great thx, getting it now
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<gzamboni> Turl not yet, i was playing around with the dma code, but it was too complicate for me, i have to start with something smaller. AFAIK the most important stuff that uses dma are the audio and spi
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<gzamboni> wens, i'm downloading them to http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/gzamboni/
<gzamboni> we can after move it to the proper directory
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<Turl> gzamboni: do you have/know some spi devices that would benefit from DMA?
<gzamboni> isnt it made for the transfer buffers engine only ?
<gzamboni> i have an IC that i can use high speed spi transfers if you wanna test performance
<gzamboni> i mean, isnt it used for the master's buffer only (the Allwinner ic) ?
<Turl> gzamboni: it's used for both sending and receiving (it's full duplex afaik)
<gzamboni> yes, but what you receive will be automaticly got from at the direct access memory, so you just need a high speed spi Interated circuit to test it... if you want i can do so with and without the dma to see the differences
<gzamboni> it may not have big performances differences but it will surely bypass some processing resources as it access the info directly from memory
<Turl> gzamboni: that would be great :)
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<gzamboni> so in a continuous transfer with dma it will surely use less cpu
<Turl> gzamboni: just to be clear, when you are not using dma, the cpu needs to push data through a fifo register, and read data from another fifo register
<gzamboni> afaik yes
<Turl> when you are using dma, the engine does it for you
<gzamboni> you have to ask mripard hes the expert :)
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<Turl> gzamboni: have you used mainline kernels before on sunxi?
<gzamboni> yes, but i dont have anything set up here
<gzamboni> i used the dma code from mripard in mainline without dma and the one from 3.4 with dma and the data transfer speed was better in the mainline :)
<Turl> heh
<Turl> that's possible
<Turl> I bet CPU usage was higher though
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<gzamboni> i didnt check, but surely it was
<gzamboni> i wasnt using the board for anything else, otherwise it would share the cpu resource and maybe slowdown the spi transfer
<gzamboni> nah, it woudnt slow down as you have to set the speed before the transfer, i think spi transfers has higher priorities
<Turl> gzamboni: anyway, if you want to test you'll find the latest dma code on the sunxi-dma branch on my tree
<Turl> you should be able to do bigger than fifo transfers now
<gzamboni> nice, i will see if i can get back the dev board i was working at that time
<gzamboni> thanks for working on this!
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<gzamboni> its amazing how you're managing to get everything mainlined
<Turl> you're welcome :)
<Turl> haha, yeah, it's getting pretty feature complete
<gzamboni> this is a sweet comunity, i was happy to know some of you at Fosdem
<gzamboni> hi hipboi_
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<gzamboni> i saw somewhere allwinner was developping an IC for watches, i cant find anything anymore
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<Turl> gzamboni: it was/is called WX
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<Turl> Q4 this year I think
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<gzamboni> Q4, 2014: WX Ultra small, ultra low power chipset for wearables
<gzamboni> :)
<Turl> they were also saying A80 would be in Q1 though, then Q2..
<Turl> so I'd take it with a grain of salt
<gzamboni> i talked to my brother yesterday, he said he's working on an Altera ARm cortex-A9 with 1ghz and separated FPGA for programing the IP's
<gzamboni> "IPs" for all the microcontroller stuff
<gzamboni> he also mentionned that there is a website with some open stuff for like I2C, SPI
<wens> opencores?
<gzamboni> in the FPGA programing language
<gzamboni> yes,i think thats the website
<gzamboni> thanks wens
<Turl> gzamboni: a socfpga from altera?
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<gzamboni> if i well understood its an ARM without any microcontroller funcion but with a separated FPGA
<gzamboni> so you can program your own fpga or use one from opencore and use it as a microcontroller
<gzamboni> i dont know if i fully understood what he explained to me, as far as i understood, it should have 2 cores, one ARM cortexA9 and another FPGA processor, so programming the fpga you can do a SoC
<gzamboni> wow, they have lot of open cores: http://opencores.org/projects
<gzamboni> they even have a CAN controller
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<Turl> gzamboni: yep, I think even allwinner is using an openrisc for their low power mode
<gzamboni> i wonder if those cores have linux drivers
<gzamboni> maksimlin, interesting
<maksimlin> gzamboni: the idea there *i think* is you can just and drag&drop the cores with the gui design tool so no need to learn/know vhdl
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<maksimlin> I like how the demo video shows just d&d in a logic anaylser straight into a design...
<gzamboni> it sounds amazing doing it all in a graphical tool, i never used arduino, but afaik its very simple to do stuff on it
<maksimlin> well arduino ide is just a simplified c++ ide
<maksimlin> while the arduino boards are "just" avr with a standardised pin header layout
<maksimlin> though having that standardised has meant lots of people doing nice add-on boards aka "shields"
<gzamboni> olimex should start working with some fpga kits :)
<maksimlin> then again we had GUI desing tools for fpgas more then 15yrs ago at uni but its all so much more easier to use now
<maksimlin> my final year project was to do a basic gfx (ega I think) card with an fpgra but never got it to quite work :-)
<gzamboni> :) they have even a 10/100/1000 mac open core
<gzamboni> why do people continue to use proprietaries cores ? performance reasons ?
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<Turl> gzamboni: 10GE if you want to go fast as well :p
<gzamboni> they have even the PHY, i was wondering if they couldnt integrate MAC+PHY directly at the controller
<mripard> wens: thanks for the schematics
<wens> a warning though, they don't seem to completely match the fex file
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<mripard> wens: good to know :)
<mripard> and yep, I have a DTS on the way
<wens> :)
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<mripard> wens: it looks like there's an issue on mine
<mripard> maybe memory corruption, I don't know.
<mripard> but either it hangs quite soon
<mripard> or it does a null kernel crash
<mripard> no matter wether it's the android on it, or mainline
<mripard> let's see if I can find a proper power supply
<mripard> wens: I'm pushing my patches on github, could you test them on yours?
<wens> i haven't much success in booting custom images
<mripard> why?
<wens> nothing happens after I load the kernel, just hangs
<wens> maybe the dt i made is bad :|
<mripard> do so you see something on the UART at least?
<wens> hold on, i just packed everything to bring home
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<wens> mripard: I suggest changing the memory node to 0x40000000 0x40000000
<wens> since the bootloader won't update it
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<wens> somehow i can't get fastboot to use initramfs
<wens> mripard: mine hangs around the time it gets to userspace dhcp or login prompt
<mripard> exactly the same here.
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<mripard> while it works fine with the colombus board
<wens> rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 1} (detected by 0, t=2102 jiffies, g=-250, c=-251, q=1)
<wens> Task dump for CPU 1:
<wens> swapper/1 R running 0 0 1 0x00000002
<wens> loaded using sdcard.img
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<mripard> I wouldn't trust the sdcard image that much actually.
<mripard> it's one for the colombus board, so a lot of things can be just plain wrong
<mripard> and cause the crash.
<wens> I should update it with boot0/boot1 from the new sdk then
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<mripard> yes
<mripard> or just use fastboot.
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<mripard> with the bootloader on the board already, and at least you're sure you're having the right one
<wens> I think the timer is faulty
<wens> it's not even rebooting after panic
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<mripard> if the timer was faulty, it wouldn't go past the delay loop calibration
<mripard> and usually a panic doesn't make a reset
<wens> even with panic=N ?
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<mripard> if N=0, it won't
<mripard> and the reset driver might not be loaded
<wens> ah right
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<wens> i got the null dereference too
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<wens> mripard: dropping the enable-method makes mine work
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<mripard> hmmm, interesting
<mripard> so that's the SMP that is broken on this board
<mripard> it would be interesting to look at what their kernel is doing to bring up the CPUs
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<wens> looks the same
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<maksimlin> wens or mripard any ideas why I would be getting half-garbled uart output when booting my hummingbird ??- just with the default android installed on nand - not usng anthing custom on sdcard yet
<maksimlin> sorry to inruptt your curent work - its just when I say grabled I mean eg... dram size =1024~���~�������������ading Boot1.
<maksimlin> Jump to Boot1
<wens> half-garbled meaning some of it is legible?
<maksimlin> wens yes
<maksimlin> so some of the text eactly what I expect eg from bootloader and then some garbage chars
<wens> my guess is interference or bad uart
<wens> if you have spare uart converters, try another one
<maksimlin> hmm good point, I just used the pl2033 usb cable they inclued in the box, I'
<maksimlin> Ill try a diff ftdi one i have
<lioka> maksimlin: probably you need pull-up resistor
<maksimlin> lioka: a pull-resistor on rx & tx ?
<lioka> rx on pl2303 side
<lioka> smht like 680 ohm between rx and +3.3v
* lioka had similar problem on another board
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<wens> i must say the nand bootloader is nice, it checks mmc0 first
<wens> mripard: i have usb working, i'll send you a patch to squash, or maybe just the whole file
<maksimlin> lioka: ok thanks I'll go dig out my breadboard and give it a try - using a ftdi based adapter doesnt work at all for some reason
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<astr> wheres there source code for the olimex lime bootloader?
<plaes> astr: #olimexaa
<plaes> duh.. #olimex
<astr> I know but I thought I might actually get a reply on #linux-sunxi
<plaes> it should be u-boot, but dunno whether it's mainline or a fork
<plaes> I'm 90% sure it's this ^^
<Wizzup> astr: see my reply in that chan
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<arokux> wens: USB for mainline on A31?
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<arokux> wens: do you happen to have hummingbird with 3G modem?
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<wens> arokux: nope
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<arokux> wens: you were working on USB OTG also, did something come out of it?
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<wens> arokux: nope, I kind of moved on
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<arokux> wens: what is the current state of it? does it work in sunxi-3.4?
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<wens> iirc it sort of works
<wens> otg detection (host/device) switching doesn't work
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<gzamboni> humm, so the axp IC's dont come well set from factory, they are set by the eGON's allwinner bootloader
<wens> only the major regulators are enabled by default
<wens> dcdc one
<wens> dcdc ones
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<gzamboni> is it possible to update the BROM ?
<buZz> afaik its ROM
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<gzamboni> it should be read only memory
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<arokux> wens: so it means you should configure it in config whether it should be host or otg, right?
<wens> arokux: i think so, i never used it myself
<arokux> wens: ok
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<Black_Horseman> kalispera
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<buZz> how feasable would it be do openvz (or any other chroot like virtualization) on a A80 ?
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<rm> "chroot-like" is not virtualization
<rm> you can run those things on anything whatsoever
<rm> an Intel 80386 will work
<rm> A10 most certainly will
<rm> not to mention A80
<rm> but forget OpenVZ
<rm> they are still on kernel 2.6
<rm> I don't think there's any Allwinner support in Linux 2.6 kernels
<rm> what you can run, is LXC
<buZz> hmm cool
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<ssvb> mnemoc: linux-sunxi.org says "502 Bad Gateway"
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<oliv3r> Turl: have you tried updating the fedora sd card?
<oliv3r> mnemoc: what ssvb said
<Turl> hm huh
<Turl> let me check the server
<Turl> apt-get is upgrading server stuff
<Turl> it should be back up soon
<Turl> oliv3r: I installed the nand fedora
<Turl> from cubie guys
<oliv3r> it takes that long on nand too?
<oliv3r> it took me like 14 hours for fed20 from image to 'latetest'
<Turl> oliv3r: well, I was like 500/800 packages done
<rm> should host the website on a Cubietruck :)
<Turl> and I forgot my cubie was plugged to the monitor
<Turl> and I rebooted my PC, which made the monitor do some weird dance that loses power on the usb port
<Turl> and then when I checked again yum said I was all up to date
<Turl> so, dunno :)
<Turl> ok, wiki is back
<Turl> dpkg was waiting for user input on a non interactive terminal
<Turl> mnemoc: ^
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<oliv3r> ouch lol
<oliv3r> Turl: well the flash isn't much faster then sd card
<oliv3r> but a class 4 sd card does take forever
<nove> time for a rant?, that is other than only a way for me to release my unhappiness, so that i can keep continuing
<nove> is still not enough, we aren't still not "open"
<nove> maybe we must work hard, to do what we not know what
<nove> or maybe
<nove> is because "cedarX is bad"
<nove> is funny
<nove> to see speaking about "politics" (in cnx comments and banana forum)
<nove> is true it appears that there is floating around some weirded "politics"
<nove> i will tell you my "politics", is anything other than
<nove> "if you don't help me i have no reason to help you"
<nove> only that
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<nove> maybe that is that, my "politics" aren't very profitable
<nove> and what is the problem with this damn video engine?
<nove> don't the binaries work?
<nove> is only need will to do the dirty laundry
<nove> like this bravery fellow
<nove> see
<nove> where is the problem?
<nove> my congratulation to him, by not had afraid to get hand dirty
<nove> and then
<nove> it is not done
<nove> ask yourself why it is still not done
<nove> the answer is very simples
<nove> remember it could have already been started more than 10 months ago
<nove> this way it, will be ready when its ready
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<nove> sorry about ranting, i know well what silence says
<nove> the good part is, when you see me complaining is because i am not giving out
<nove> end of rant
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<mnemoc> Turl: uh
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<lioka> found who ate my i2c
<lioka> b443d507
<lioka> in 3.4
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<zombu2> evening
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<zombu2> can anyone help me out with this?
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<lioka> zombu2: add -lX11
<zombu2> to what
<lioka> cc -Wall -o test test.c -lEGL -lGLESv2 -lX11
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<zombu2> umm
<zombu2> i m sorry i assume that gets added to a file
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<zombu2> ah found it
<zombu2> the makefile
<zombu2> great i see a rainbow colored triangle
<zombu2> lioka one more question is there a way to get 2d acceleration going so the windows move a little more quickly when you move them around and maybe get video acceleration going for like youtube
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<ssvb> zombu2: on which hardware?
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<zombu2> ssvb cubietruck
<zombu2> maybe later when i got some time for the radxa
<ssvb> zombu2: moving windows should be already fast if you are using the fbturbo ddx driver
<zombu2> fbturbo but moving windows is choppy and slow
<zombu2> veeeery slow
<ssvb> zombu2: this is clearly very abnormal, can you check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
<zombu2> sure 1 sec
<ssvb> zombu2: this disables a bunch of optimizations - "FBTURBO(0): using shadow framebuffer"
<zombu2> error that stands out is AIGLX
<zombu2> umm
<zombu2> so what to do?
<zombu2> i m rather clueless on whats to do
<ssvb> don't enable ShadowFB in your xorg.conf
<zombu2> even without it enabled it was slow
<ssvb> really?
<zombu2> yes
<ssvb> with ShadowFB or rotation it is guaranteed to be slow
<froese> are you using opengl?
<zombu2> i got no clue heh
<ssvb> what is you desktop environment?
<ssvb> *your
<zombu2> lightdm on linaro
<froese> i would disable aiglx for a start...
<zombu2> how do i do that
<froese> option aiglx disable in the serverflags.
<zombu2> in xorg.conf right
<zombu2> k put it in xorg.conf
<froese> yes
<zombu2> anything else i should change in xorg.conf?
<ssvb> be sure to disable ShadowFB :)
<zombu2> i removed that from the conf file
<ssvb> ok
<zombu2> k ima reboot real quick
<zombu2> and see what happens
<ssvb> oh, and also check cpufreq settings
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<ssvb> if you have something like "ondemand" cpufreq governor sitting at 60MHz, then the system is very laggy
<froese> btw, is there a way to disable the scaler? (it's always enabled and gets 60 irqs/sec)
<zombu2> still very laggy
<zombu2> hmm governor huh
<ssvb> cpufreq?
<zombu2> where s that conf file
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<ssvb> run the "cpufreq-info" tool to get the current status
<ssvb> and "cpufreq-set -g performance" to change to the performance governor if necessary
<zombu2> hmm seems to be not installed
<ssvb> install it :)
<zombu2> any odea on the package name?
<zombu2> idea
<ssvb> apt-get install cpufrequtils
<froese> just cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
<ssvb> froese: this also works
<ssvb> froese: just cpufrequtils are a little bit more user friendly
<zombu2> governor was fantasy
<froese> iirc, i tried to compile the kernel without frequency scaling but it wouldn't work.