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<plaes>
anyone available who has ability to edit "Device Page example" in wiki?
<plaes>
could you make the change in infobox that would link the "Touchscreen" row to its wiki page
<plaes>
hrm.. it doesn't seem to be possible, though...
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* rz2k
loves the continuing drama around eoma68/arm-netbook and lkcl being classic lkcl
<rz2k>
plaes: you want to talk to libv about device pages
<plaes>
nah.. I found a workaround for now...
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<wens>
rz2k: it's still ongoing?
* plaes
has finished improvement spree to touchscreen controllers in wiki for now.. any complaints?
<rz2k>
wens: guys around there interested in arm-netbooks asked lkcl when arm-netbook mailing list became eoma68 mailing list after lkcl banned aaron from kde for "not contributing to project"
<rz2k>
it is just so marvelous shit show that I'm going to watch it to the finale.
<rz2k>
this is even better than nodejs section on stackoverflow.
<plaes>
haha
<wens>
I suppose there are off and on flame wars in nodejs section? :p
<nove>
what to do with new socs? if linux-sunxi wants to be sunxi, it can't just ignore some only because there isn't a friendly development board.
<libv>
nove: i know, but sadly, a23 isn't getting far with only wens working on it
<plaes>
libv: yeah, I know about that
<nove>
some weeks ago i saw in aliexpress seller with a23 tablet boards for 20€
<libv>
plaes: something that takes some of the hassle out of our current infobox (and some minor restructuring of the infobox) is imho what we need
<libv>
plaes: i currently think a single page for each of wifi, ethernet, bluetooth, touchscreen and accelerometer drivers is enough, unless a given driver requires a lot of info (like gsl1680)
<libv>
in that light, i am not too certain yet what this template would give us
<libv>
nove: what stops you?
<nove>
maybe we could try to convince allwinner to help in this, by explain the trouble in getting the hardware, like happened here buying a tablet expecting a23, and was a13
<libv>
nove: also, wens should write up a bit of wiki info on how to use the a23 sdk kernel
<libv>
nove: allwinner is not too helpful atm
<libv>
i still need to go bang on the table on that one
<nove>
is not selling any more
<libv>
and i expected an a13, and got a23
<libv>
what is not selling anymore? a23?
<nove>
and the fear of getting, get like for example a rockchip
<plaes>
libv: I just wanted to play around with that 'navbox' thingy, to see whether anything good would happen..
<libv>
plaes: imho, just go ahead
<libv>
if it does something useful over what we have already, we should use it
<libv>
but i am not convinced yet, but perhaps a good example will help
<libv>
plaes: i did not like the ==== ==== to * change btw
<libv>
you cannot create a link to a bulletpoint
<libv>
and while it works in this case, due to the separate gsl1680 page, it breaks consistency
<libv>
i admit, it is easier on the eye with the bulletpoint, but it loses functionality
<plaes>
yeah, I have to admit I couldn't find a "nice" way to do that..
<nove>
allwinner could arrange some tablets boards, give then to cubietech to solder uart wires and do the shipment to us
<mnemoc>
what about a template doing an html anchor?
<nove>
but yes, for that needs to be will to do so
<plaes>
nove: is there one?
<mnemoc>
<a name="mybullet"></a>
<plaes>
ah.. indeed :)
<libv>
mnemoc: i also like the navigation box at the top
<mnemoc>
that way it can be linked without been a title
<mnemoc>
libv: ok :)
<libv>
so we really want a header which just is formatter differently
<libv>
then fixing the formatting first, and then functionality on top later, that just seems wrong :)
<nove>
plaes: i think there would be no problem about getting some sample boards from its costumers(tablet makers)
<libv>
imho it isn't too impossible with ====
<libv>
nove: that's going to be harder than dealing with allwinner itself
<mnemoc>
h4 {.....} in the theme
<libv>
allwinner has been witnessed to care at some points already
<libv>
device makers will never care at all, apart from one or two, overall.
<libv>
who might not ship that newer chipset you are hoping for
<libv>
those one or two being cubietech and olimex in our case
<nove>
libv: the idea was for allwinner herself get the boards from the tablet makers
<plaes>
funnily the only one who seems to care a bit lately is nvidia :P
<libv>
nove: hasn't worked for oliv3r and his promised a23 tablet
<shineworld>
sunxi display drivers support brightness control over pwn or is only a matrix way on LUT ?
<libv>
shineworld: they should, but it probably is broken in your case, or the fex is not filled in correctly
<shineworld>
I'm using openbox... 4.0.4 with kernel lichee 3.0.59+
<libv>
lichee?
<libv>
why are you even here?
<shineworld>
there are changes in linux-sunxi port about display drivers ?)
<mnemoc>
*cough*
<shineworld>
sorry....
<shineworld>
is an old project... never tried to use directly sunxi kernel 3.0 instead of default lichee 3.0
<shineworld>
however pwn works (10Khz at 50%) but was not able to understand how to control bright (backlight) ... if bright and backlight (duty cycle) are in some way linked...
<nove>
but maybe careful explaining that if that was done for A23, the announcement of A33 could also have said supports gnu/linux, instead of only android
<nove>
and that would only cost around 10 boards
<shineworld>
probably brightness and backlight control aren't same thing and I need to add a new parameter on android setup display dialog
<shineworld>
de_be.c is so strange peace of code.... sigh
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<shineworld>
ok I'm looking differences on driver/video/sunxi/disp between lichee 3.0 and sunxi-3.4...
<shineworld>
on de_be.c there aren't so much
<shineworld>
but, by your experience, there is some correlation between bright and backlight control ?
<shineworld>
I wasn't able to find if there is on of how is possible to control backlight
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<shineworld>
*there is one, or how
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<libv>
shineworld: pwm is next on my list of todos for my kms driver
<libv>
basic fex based display mode setting is done, but the powering on/off, etc, and then pwm is up next
<libv>
basic mode stuff was done at easter, when i was stuck on the train for a few h
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<shineworld>
I don't know a lot of this system, unfortunately. I've saw in script.fex the settings to enable pwm management for backlight and thought was only necessary to configure these. I made that and checked with oscilloscope the right behavior of digital output. Connected to my LVDS display the dimming of 50% worked but now I need to understand how to dynamically control it (change the dutycycle) in my context, Android OS.
<shineworld>
In silly way I though that brightness is in someway linked on pwm dutycycle value if enabled in script but this isn't.
<shineworld>
at least looking in BE_DE_Set_Enhance called but ioctl(DISP_CMD_SET_BRIGHT)
<shineworld>
-but +by
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<shineworld>
I'm switching to linux-sunxi.... :)
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<mnemoc>
good idea
<shineworld>
however I've found.... openbox sources are wrong (I will move anyway to linux-sunxi)
<shineworld>
just to fix some java calls ...
<shineworld>
to switch a kernel is always a hard thing... overall in an already running product ;)
<plaes>
what device is it?
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<shineworld>
is a 12" HMI interface
<plaes>
for vending machines? :P
<shineworld>
just interface, none controls (there is a different RTOS powered machine)
<shineworld>
I'm using android only how interface to user
<plaes>
cool
<shineworld>
so CB1(2) how HMI using android OS and a proprietary SCADA program to get running APK, and an embedded motion control board running a proprietary RTOS for interpolations, cammings, etc..
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<TheSeven>
bad news :/
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<TheSeven>
I just tried another microsd card. the kernel boots just fine (i.e. uboot can load it just fine), but the kernel fails to even enumerate the card
<TheSeven>
so this is looking more and more like a kernel bug
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* TheSeven
wonders how to further debug that
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<mnemoc>
test an older -rN, N>1
<mnemoc>
test an older -rN, N>0
<TheSeven>
the "old" driver is broken, right?
<TheSeven>
it doesn't even compile...
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* TheSeven
builds sunxi-v3.4.75-r1 for testing
<TheSeven>
mnemoc: exact same failure with sunxi-v3.4.75-r1