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<ttmrichter> Danielbrazilian: If you have the source to skype I'm sure you could get it working on Cubieboard. Otherwise you'll have to wait for Microsoft to support Cubieboard...
<ttmrichter> (Hint: this will probably never happen.)
<Danielbrazilian> cause i am in the irc chat #odroid and they told me skype works perfectly
<Danielbrazilian> but i think cubieboard is cheaper for me
<Danielbrazilian> ttmrichter: i mean on android
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<Danielbrazilian> skype is on google play and doesnt work on cubieboard?
<ttmrichter> I have no idea if it works on Cubieboard with Android. I don't use Android, unfortunately.
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<freq> I'd dout that microsoft would support cubieboard
<freq> doubt*
<freq> So I am having sound issues
<freq> I suppose I need the drivers or something
<Danielbrazilian> with skype?
<freq> no just sound in general
<freq> i have pulse and alsa
<Danielbrazilian> oh right
<freq> i see the bar jumping as if it's playing but there is no input for the soundcrd
<Danielbrazilian> but i thought most guys use android on cubieboard
<freq> It comes with it. A lot of people prefer Linux
<Danielbrazilian> hm
<Danielbrazilian> i'm from brazil and it is sold in a website, i'm looking at ODROID but its website is from korea and more expensive
<freq> Danielbrazilian: how much do you plan on spending?
<freq> the cubietruck has more features and is no available
<freq> now*
<Danielbrazilian> you mean not yet
<Danielbrazilian> oh
<freq> it's available in the r0ckstore
<Danielbrazilian> cubietruck
<Danielbrazilian> i'll search in the brazilian website
<Danielbrazilian> i mean i better get it here in my country if you know what i mean
<freq> If only I had waited. I am running cubieboard2 now
<freq> Yes I know. They might ship from the r0ckstore
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<Danielbrazilian> ok what cubietruck does?
<freq> It has 4 mali video chips and an A20 dual core
<freq> There is sata, bluetooth, wifi and backup battery port
<Danielbrazilian> well cubieboard 2 also has A20 dual core 1.0ghz and sata
<freq> that's true
<freq> I am running one and have plenty of ability
<freq> I have had sound before...
<Danielbrazilian> try to reinstall it again
<UnaClocker> backup battery? For a clock, or for keeping the thing on when you unplug it?
<freq> for power outage
<Danielbrazilian> i have debian jessie on my desktop pc
<freq> I run crunchbang on mine
<Danielbrazilian> freq: i would have to wait till cubietruck gets in here
<Danielbrazilian> is it avaiable in UK?
<Danielbrazilian> i'm going to uk in december i could get it in there
<freq> will your country not allow shipping to it?
<Danielbrazilian> it is not avalable in here
<Danielbrazilian> maybe not yet
<Danielbrazilian> we have the cubieboard 1 and 2
<Danielbrazilian> and pi and loads of acessories
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<Danielbrazilian> freq: cubietruck is cubieboard 3?
<Danielbrazilian> i found this video on youtube http://youtu.be/gpVSFY8cc_Y
<Danielbrazilian> so this is the new cubietruck
<freq> yes
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<UnaClocker> Guess I'm glad I didn't get a Cubieboard2 yet.. But looks like the truck is hard to get at this point.
<Danielbrazilian> freq: it's still shows not available in brazil neighter uk
<Danielbrazilian> yes i can't get it yet
<Danielbrazilian> i didnt know there was cubietruck for that reason
<UnaClocker> Ahh, found some on eBay..
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<Danielbrazilian> ebay
<freq> how much?
<UnaClocker> $88 for some, $105 for others..
<UnaClocker> err,I don't think it's a cubietruck.. They're begging to get in trouble for false advertising..
<freq> it's not
<UnaClocker> heh, given eBay's policies.. Want a free board? Buy that, get it, file a false advertising dispute, eBay will immediately refund your money.
<freq> win
* UnaClocker nods.
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<Danielbrazilian> what about this?
<Danielbrazilian> UnaClocker: Is it different?
<bamvor_> it is 88$ in China taobao.
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<Danielbrazilian> dude you showed the link its name is Olimex A20
<bamvor_> this shop join the pre-order in cubietech: http://forum.cubietech.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1110. so it is safe to buy the ck.
<Danielbrazilian> i think it is different
<Danielbrazilian> it's not english lol
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<bamvor_> google translate.
<bamvor_> the feature list is in english. and i am sure the seller could speak english.
<Danielbrazilian> this photo shows the cubieboard 3/ cubietruck
<Danielbrazilian> is it him?
<bamvor_> yes.
<Danielbrazilian> nice
<Danielbrazilian> oh 2gb of memory
<Danielbrazilian> ddr3
<Danielbrazilian> i found the specification
<Danielbrazilian> hope it works every google play apps well :)
<bamvor_> Danielbrazilian: do you really need a development board if you run android on it? there are lots of cheap STB could pin out the serial.
<bamvor_> Danielbrazilian: e.g. mele A100 dual core. only 50$.
<Danielbrazilian> bamvor_: oh is that a box?
<bamvor_> yes.
<Danielbrazilian> it is not so known
<bamvor_> it is 50$ in China.
<bamvor_> i buy it recently and run fedora sucessful.
<Danielbrazilian> well it is ARM?
<Danielbrazilian> what about the Android TV?
<bamvor_> yes.
<bamvor_> fedora 19 on arm.
<bamvor_> playing video is good in android. i do not test other functions in android.
<freq> bamvor_: sound worked for me in android
<bamvor_> freq: yes. you could mount sata by yourself
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<Danielbrazilian> guys in the cubieboard2 has an audio jack and a mic jack, but the cubietruck just a audio jack for headphones, so there is my wonder, how can i plug the mic to use Skype on cubietruck?
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<Danielbrazilian> bamvor_:
<Danielbrazilian> freq:
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<Danielbrazilian> guys in the cubieboard2 has an audio jack and a mic jack, but the cubietruck just a audio jack for headphones, so there is my wonder, how can i plug the mic to use Skype on cubietruck?
<bamvor_> there is a mic in extension pin.
<Danielbrazilian> that i need to buy after?
<Danielbrazilian> i dont know how i can do it
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<ttmrichter> Is there some actual trick to flashing the NAND? Every time I follow the ... rather slim instructions I get "Failed to flash firmware: Wait for Fes Device Timeout.
<JohnDoe_71Rus> ttmrichter: with liveSuit
<JohnDoe_71Rus> witch OS you use?
<ttmrichter> repost: Every time I follow the ... rather slim instructions I get "Failed to flash firmware: Wait for Fes Device Timeout.
<ttmrichter> Linux Mint 15.
<ttmrichter> OK, can we please assume I've read instructions and am trying to follow them?
<ttmrichter> I've got the udev rules.
<ttmrichter> I've got LiveSuit running.
<ttmrichter> The error message I quoted comes straight from LiveSuit.
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<ttmrichter> In the console I'm getting this:
<ttmrichter> Dev Plugin The Device Path is: /dev/aw_efex2
<ttmrichter> Dev Plugout The Device Path is: /dev/aw_efex2
<ttmrichter> Dev Plugout The Device Path is: /dev/aw_efex2
<JohnDoe_71Rus> I had to do was connect the card with your finger on the FEL. No need to wait 10 seconds
<ttmrichter> It looks like the device is unloading itself during this process. Twice.
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<ttmrichter> It appears that as soon as LiveSuit starts the write process I get those "Dev Plugout blah blah blah" messages.
<ttmrichter> Two of them.
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<ttmrichter> So, anybody able to assist in troubleshooting this issue?
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<ttmrichter> Ah, and more details: dmesg is giving errors like crazy each time I do this.
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<ttmrichter> This is what dmesg vomits up when I follow the process: http://vpaste.net/5Ks8s
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<sckies79> !ls
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<Chung> !ls
<ttmrichter> Oh, fucking Hell!
<ttmrichter> It's sensitive to USB 3.0 ports.
<ttmrichter> Luckily I still have a USB 2.0 port on this machine. :-S
<ttmrichter> That may have to go into a FAQ somewhere, or LiveSuit needs to be fixed to cover USB 3.0 connection ports.
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<rm> USB 3.0 often on additional controllers
<ttmrichter> rm: What?
<rm> USB 3.0 is often implemented on mainboards via an additional controller (not main chipset)
<ttmrichter> I'm not sure how it's implemented here. Not sure how to check either. :)
<rm> ...some of which are bizzare strange crap made by newfag companies which don't know what they're doing :)
<rm> so it is a common thing that USB 3.0 ports will be limited in some way (e.g. the keyboard will not work while in BIOS)
<ttmrichter> This is a notebook, so nothing in the BIOS works.
<ttmrichter> Worse, it's UEFI. Nothing works at all without bloodletting.
<ttmrichter> Huh. Android looks pretty good on the Cubieboard.
<ttmrichter> (This is the TV thing.)
<ttmrichter> Looks like the USB 3.0 is properly baked in.
<ttmrichter> And the 2.0 is an addon.
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<focus> Hi, I'm trying to get cubieboard1 working with sata disk - when i leave put root = /dev/sda1 in uEnv.txt, it picks it up but does not boot from it. just hangs saying "waiting for /dev/sda1". The sata is externally powered and does not take power from cubieboard. (cubieboard2 works if i leave it in boot.cmd)
<focus> well done popolon! I to follow your work soon
<rm> popolon.org uses an invalid security certificate.
<rm> The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
<rm> The certificate is only valid for master2.planet-service.fr
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<popolon> rm, I know
<popolon> don't really understand why such a kind of alert
<popolon> fisher use CDN now, with valid SSL certificate
<rm> the error message explained precisely why...
<popolon> this block more user that are aware of some security
<popolon> I know
<popolon> I don't know why for every navigator tend to block user for that
<popolon> meaning => there is no mean to have secure connexion if you are not big corporate
<popolon> oe at least have 300$ to spent by year for this f*** alert
<rm> startssl provides SSL certificates for free
<rm> others from $2-$3/year
<rm> (I am sensitive to this because I just finished implementing SSL on my own website couple of days ago)
<rm> also there's CACert which is free and supported by some browsers/OSes...
<ttmrichter> popolon: If you're going to have a self-signed cert you may as well not use a cert at all.
<popolon> does ssl will start ?
<popolon> I never think to try
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<popolon> I believe there will be the same kind of error anywa
<popolon> y
<popolon> at least with a self-signed certifacte, I'm sur to be on my own server
<popolon> if there is DNS problem
<popolon> and I access by name
<popolon> of if there is ip adress conflict due to some network configuration error
<ttmrichter> popolon: The issue is man-in-the-middle attacks.
<ttmrichter> Someone does something nasty to route traffic intended for your server to theirs instead.
<ttmrichter> And they present their own self-signed certificate.
<ttmrichter> And just forward anything a visitor to your site wants to do over to you whilst skimming the "secured" content at will.
<popolon> so if i have my own self signed certicitate I know I'm on my server
<ttmrichter> Hence "a visitor" and not "you".
<popolon> I'm a visitor of my site
<popolon> but still, attackers today use cdn certifcates
<ttmrichter> OK, I'm just going to stop even trying to explain this. You're absolutely right. The thousands of cryptographers and PKI implementers who disagree with you are delusional. You win.
<popolon> so noone have alert when cdn are used instead of official site
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<popolon> as cdn has good signed by tierce certificate
<popolon> I mean there is no mean to have crypted communication without the need to know if the site visited is or is not itself
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<popolon> tha's like if post office refuse to send letters that are closed
<popolon> or mail box refuse to get the letter
<popolon> more precisely
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<popolon> rm, https://www.startssl.com/ <= first try, already some problems
<popolon> ^^
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<popolon> cacert is more what I like
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<mnemoc> at least cacert doesn't hand over their private keys to the NSA
<popolon> :)
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<mnemoc> and adding _one_ extra CA to your browser is far better than getting used to accept self-signed certs
<popolon> probably yes
<popolon> last time i visited this (at least 1 or 2 years ago), there was still debate on some rules
<mnemoc> they are always debating rules and policies :p
<mnemoc> but the CA mafia won't ever allow them to get into the browsers by default. too much money involved
<mnemoc> even if they are more secure and reliable than most "real" CAs
<popolon> :)
<popolon> if at least linux distro include them in default CA
<mnemoc> many do
<popolon> in the ca-certificates package
<popolon> cacert.org
<popolon> yes !
<popolon> :)
<mnemoc> :)
<popolon> now included
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<popolon> after that there is a link method to make a site working the same way if you connect via http:// or https:// and want to keep the protocol but changing hostname: //my.site.net/page
<popolon> without http: or https: before //
<mnemoc> // has worked since ages, perfect to avoid mixing secure and non-secure content
<Juerd> It has worked since ages because this is how URI's were specced :)
<Juerd> This is also why there are two slashes after the schema, instead of just one.
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<mnemoc> :)
<popolon> :)
<popolon> only discovered by pure randomness 1 year ago
* Juerd cringes every time he sees something like (location.src.match(/^https:/) ? "https" : "http") + "://..."
<mnemoc> maybe some obscure proprietary browsers still don't support it.... they aren't very good at respecting the specs...
<popolon> irc:// http:// https:// ...
<FR^2> xmpp://
<popolon> rtsp://
<popolon> :)
<mnemoc> and fancy ones like svn+https:// :p
<FR^2> Ah :)
<popolon> forgot if it's news:// or nntp:// (long time since I used it last time)
<popolon> svn+ssh://
<popolon> or just ssh:// ?
<popolon> ftp:// ftps://
<popolon> sftp:// ?
<mnemoc> it's very sad how the php generation patheticly reinvented newgroups with their "forums"
<popolon> news:// for newsgroup
<mnemoc> they couldn't just write a web interface for nntp.... they had to "reinvent" it... lamely
<popolon> magnet:?... (without //)
<mnemoc> URI vs. URL
<mnemoc> f* the forums!
<mnemoc> otoh it's pretty cool that gmane provides an nntp interface for their mailing list bidirectional archive
<popolon> and there is URN
<popolon> forgot mailto://
<mnemoc> no //s there
<popolon> oops yes
<mnemoc> as it's an identifier, not a location ;-)
<popolon> so in eveycase we spoke about we should avoid to add //
<mnemoc> and regarding indentifiers... did the cb2 also come with an ISBN? or that's a CT novelty?
<FR^2> ISBN, isn't that the GPS system of the book world?
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<mnemoc> sure, unique identifier for BOOKS
<mnemoc> but http://i.imgur.com/a3ehHKc.jpg .... the back of the CT's package
<mnemoc> I have to admit I love the "designed in china" addition... but miss a b/w copy of the mascot
<FR^2> hehe
<popolon> oh !
<popolon> my cubieboard2 has one too!
<mnemoc> :D
<FR^2> Oh, that photo is of the cardboard box the cubieboard came in? I really have to have a look when I get home
<mnemoc> also the "china exports" sticker?
<rm> doesn't make a huge lot of sense
<popolon> 9 9538365 368413
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<popolon> this is the isbn of the box !
<popolon> :D
<rm> Title:Product Creative Design: Liu Chuankai product design
<rm> Publication Date:2005
<rm> Pages:230
<rm> so... not even of the box
<popolon> youngness edition
<popolon> how I just realise why for *ness in english, => like jeunesse (in french)
<atsampson> and note that the EAN isn't one for an ISBN, so I suspect that's just a placeholder barcode that's meant to be replaced with a real one...
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<popolon> 118RMB/¥
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<popolon> tel: is also an URL :)
<popolon> URI at least
<popolon> with an rfc ?
<popolon> no link between the ness of yougness (pure german) and jeunesse (pure latin) :))
<popolon> or older link perhaps ?
<popolon> Bolo : Join an existing bolo game. :))
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<FR^2> http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=87444 <-- looks interesting.
<FR^2> 7" Touchscreen, hdmi, 800x480, 4Watts power consumption
<popolon> 7-12“
<popolon> • Betriebsspannung: 8~36 V <= means that it is possible to plug an only renewable energy 12V power network
<FR^2> 12V, up to 36V -> e.g. for a car
<FR^2> But 120 EUR for a display.... uff...
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<snomnom> !ls
<snomnom> hi! anyone with some freebsd experience with the cubieboard around?
<FR^2> snomnom: I can't help you, I guess, but if you ask more specific it might be more likely that you get a response. Patience is mandatory, though :)
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<snomnom> i was wondering if cubieboard will boot with the latest freebsd revision 256259
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<herdingcat> is there any doc about how to generate best optimized toolchain for cubeboard?
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<wickwire> Hi guys, I'm trying to build a custom linux SD image with sunxi-bsp
<wickwire> for the cubieboard 2 A20
<wickwire> configure cubieboard2 works ok,
<wickwire> but make hwpack-install SD_CARD=/dev/mmcblk0 ROOTFS=/opt/Cubieboard2/linaro-raring-alip-20130826-474.tar.gz for example
<wickwire> fails right off the bat with
<wickwire> make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/Cubieboard2/sunxi-bsp/u-boot-sunxi'
<wickwire> make: *** No rule to make target `cubieboard2_config'. Stop.
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<wickwire> can anyone offer any help?
<wickwire> I was currently searching on google but without any luck
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<wickwire> ahhhhhhhhh... hang on
<wickwire> the command line that is being run is
<wickwire> make -C u-boot-sunxi cubieboard2_config O=/opt/Cubieboard2/sunxi-bsp/build/cubieboard2-u-boot CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- -j8
<wickwire> and this fails with the above error...
<wickwire> but if I change cubieboard2_config to Cubieboard2_config
<wickwire> it works
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<FR^2> Ha! I just ordered the Motorola Atrix Lapdock :) Let's see how that works out :D
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<wickwire> Cubieboard 2 (A20) uses WEMAC for the ethernet?
<wickwire> I'm running a linaro SD card image using First Steps on Cubie 2 A20
<wickwire> and ethernet isn't working
<wickwire> but using Cubian for A20, it does
<wickwire> can anyone help?
<wickwire> I'm running kernel 3.4.61
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<focus_it> wickwire: read http://www.gplsquared.com/eoma_boot/eoma_boot.html#eoma_as_a_pc - scroll down to cyan color lettering describing getting the network going
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<popolon> focus_it, https://popolon.org/gblog3/?p=208&lang=en <= translated in english, and improved a bit
<popolon> still not resolved my network problem
<popolon> when I resolv it, I will restart the procedure and give an image
<popolon> (after reinstalling mali/fbturbo driver
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<pirea_cubian> hy
<pirea_cubian> i have a problem with sount
<pirea_cubian> sound :|
<pirea_cubian> doesn't work
<pirea_cubian> just doesn't work
<pirea_cubian> after install
<pirea_cubian> of cubian
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<popolon> pirea_cubian, doesn't work on which output ?
<popolon> and which user ?
<popolon> is your user in in audio group ?
<pirea_cubian> i think it is because alsamixer works :)
<pirea_cubian> hdmi
<pirea_cubian> output
<pirea_cubian> and analog
<popolon> ?
<popolon> if alsamxier works
<popolon> sound should works
<pirea_cubian> i know
<pirea_cubian> :)
<popolon> I believe that's more a user right privilege
<popolon> did you tried as root ?
<pirea_cubian> i tried with sudo :)
<pirea_cubian> and nothing
<pirea_cubian> i am using cubian
<popolon> I seen
<pirea_cubian> and player is mplayer2
<popolon> but should be the same on most system
<popolon> strange
<popolon> I think about volume problem if you play it with root
<popolon> and can change volume on alsamixer
<pirea_cubian> yes
<popolon> did you verified every source/output/...
<pirea_cubian> i can't change playback volume
<pirea_cubian> is 00 :|
<popolon> oh !
<pirea_cubian> master is at 75
<popolon> with a MM at the bottom ?
<pirea_cubian> with
<pirea_cubian> with and without doesn't work
<pirea_cubian> i have just alsa
<pirea_cubian> with pulse works
<pirea_cubian> but i don't want pulse
<pirea_cubian> i don't like it
<popolon> ah ok
<popolon> don't know then
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<focus_it> poplon: thank you - I hope to follow soon and replicate the work
<popolon> hope
<popolon> just added audio :)
<popolon> (didn't added)
<popolon> but still not resolved for network, didn't try your trick, but I would like to found the standard way on ubuntu 13.10
<popolon> only autodhcp for network is my problem
<popolon> still need to compile again, graphics driver, but that's the same method than for ubuntu 13.04
<focus_it> the linaro ubuntu image doesn't come up with sound in its drivers but alamixer shows them - don't understand why the two behave so differently
<popolon> focus_it, for linaro ubuntu, that was only a right problem
<popolon> linaro user worked
<popolon> but not jm user you created, because you didn't added it to audio group
<focus_it> i added it later here, and still same result
<focus_it> may be i should fix the linaro user and start from there
<popolon> I have sound with your installation with linaro user
<focus_it> follow your suggestion as to how to fix it - some problems with root owing linaro user files
<popolon> ho !
<popolon> there was two problems
<focus_it> hmm i still can't login with linaro - haven't followed your suggestion to fix the root owned files yet
<popolon> some rights problems on directory linaro
<focus_it> ok
<popolon> and jm wasn't in audio group
<focus_it> ok
<popolon> as root:
<popolon> passwd linaro
<popolon> but I believe that's already the case
<focus_it> so in your linaro user now you got audio come up in the right hand side tool bar?
<popolon> and you can log with linaro (if you resolved permission problems on linaro user directory
<focus_it> i got audio with "x" in jm user despite being added to audio group
<popolon> didn't looked at this
<popolon> but it work
<focus_it> ok
<popolon> alsamixer
<popolon> too
<popolon> and I was able to play sound with every tool I tried
<popolon> didn't tried a lot
<focus_it> through hdmi?
<focus_it> sound through hdmi working?
<popolon> throughjack out
<popolon> don't have any hdmi in
<popolon> but on a video-only hdmi->dvi adapter
<focus_it> yes I got that too - but no hdmi - sound is mixed in with the video - booting up on android has the sound through hdmi working
<focus_it> but not yet through linux
<popolon> that was the problem for me
<popolon> by default
<popolon> android sound is on hdmi
<popolon> you have to switch it to jack in prefs
<popolon> I suppose that's the same on linux, but jack by default
<focus_it> alsa mixer can play sound through jack socket - but when selecting hdmi, it does not come out of hdmi - still comes out through jack
<popolon> it seems you can have both together (at least on android)
<focus_it> yes
<popolon> ok
<popolon> need to be reported to linux-sunxi devs then
<focus_it> that serious eh? :)
<focus_it> do you know if cubie1 can boot from uSD and switch to booting from Sata? i tried it but it always hangs and says waiting for /dev/sda1
<focus_it> cubie2 fine of course :)
<focus_it> my impression is that no one has it working - so the only way sata access is happening is to mount the sata after the os booted off the uSD - a bit slow
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<bfree> if you mean root on sata, yes it can. just make sure sata (and filesystem) support is built in to your kernel, or that your initramfs loads the module(s) required.
<bfree> I admit I've only done it the initramfs way, but I'm sure I've seen plenty of others reporting success doing it without an initramfs
<focus_it> just looked at kernel config - the only thing sata related not set is CONFIG_SATA_MV - is that important?
<focus_it> The others are CONFIG_SATA_PMP=y CONFIG_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM=y CONFIG_SW_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM=m CONFIG_ATA_SFF=y
<bfree> CONFIG_SW_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM=m means it is modular, so you need an initramfs that loads it. http://linux-sunxi.org/Initial_Ramdisk or build it in
<focus_it> hmmm.. wonder if CONFIG_SW_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM=m need to be changed to CONFIG_SW_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM=y
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<focus_it> bfree - you be right - i hear before all modules must be loaded first
<focus_it> ok - thanks bfree - i recompile tomorrow and try again
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<focus_it> also found CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=m which i will set to CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=y
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<popolon> on stage update
<popolon> sorry : an update on stage linux-sunxi
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<focus_it> ok
<focus_it> good night - i be sleeping zz.....
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<popolon> add the module then :)
<popolon> really need to sleep too
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<popolon> this patch seem to be the sign of a serious need to update
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<popolon> my cubieboard fresh installed ubuntu 13.10
<popolon> mark https://github.com as using invaldid certificate ???
<popolon> ca-certificates is installed
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<popolon> ok
<popolon> clock problem !
<popolon> 1st january 2010 :D
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