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<popolon> I try to start flightgear on cubie2 with sys without hw acceleration ^^
<popolon> anyway, as that's opengl application, should not be accelerated on this opengl es platform
<popolon> at least 5 min to start
<popolon> with debian packages for flightgear 2.10
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<bagnz0r> And here comes yet another boom...
<bagnz0r> Is kernel source for A20 even available?
<bagnz0r> Because what I got from here doesn't seem to have any configs for A20: https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/
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<bagnz0r> Nevermind, tweaked existing configs for sun5i.
<bagnz0r> I'll put up my device tree on GitHub later too.
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<focus> bangnz0r: kernel, sources, and everything covered for a20 already, see how it got done for eoma and cubieboard2 from reading down the log from http://www.gplsquared.com/eoma_boot/eoma_boot.html#linaro_boot_uSD_image
<focus> bagnz0r: if anything missing, let me know
<bagnz0r> Thanks focus
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<bagnz0r> Has anyone here dealt with touch film from these guys? http://ucnano.com/
<bagnz0r> I'm starting to think the "controller" box for android they have shipped must be defective.
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<focus> popolon: thanks for the write up https://popolon.org/gblog3/?p=165&lang=en , I put in a link on my web page - its good
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<bagnz0r> That said there seems to be almost no acceleration in stock android image cubieboard comes with.
<FR^2> What data rates does the cubieboard2 support on its sata port?
<FR^2> I assume adding an ssd is a bit of an overkill?
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<jelly> FR^2: I get around 100-120MB/s on the older A10 cubieboard
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<jelly> 3Gbps link seemed a bit unstable, but after the driver renegotiates to 1.5Gbps it works fine
<FR^2> jelly: Ah, thanks for the info. Then it could make some sense (especially concerning noise).
<FR^2> ooops. I just noticed an ssd from sandisk the day before yesterday. With storage by sandisk I only got bad experiences :(
<FR^2> I just noticed that I ordered an ssd from sandisk...
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<popolon> focus, I believe you didn't compiled g2d in your kernel ?
<popolon> didn't digget more about this, but this seems to be the last problem for hw acceleration
<popolon> <= still need to configure/compile a sunxi kernel by itself
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<popolon> at least no g2d.ko in tree and X complain about no /dev/g2d
<popolon> so lot of cpu wasted in blits, especially if screensaver runs :/
<focus> popolon: i can recompile, is there a flag to set for g2d?
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<popolon> still don't know
<popolon> I only git pulled the sunxi src yesterday, didn't have time to look at it
<focus> popolon: seems CONFIG_SUN4I_G2D=y was used
<popolon> at least there is the mali + mali_drm + ump + drm_kms_helper part (
<popolon> oh
<popolon> so that's hard linked, no need to load a module
<popolon> so only the /dev/g2d is missing
<popolon> will try to find MAJ/MIN for this device
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<popolon> c 251, 0
<popolon> ok :)
<popolon> perhaps there is no udev ?
<focus> popolon: can't boot cubie this moment - missing a hdmi lead :(
<popolon> will add it manually and say to you what is the result
<focus> thanks
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<focus> popolon: borrowed a hdmi cable
<focus> popolon: lib/modules/3.4.61+/kernel/drivers/gpu has two subdirectories - drm and mali
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<focus> popolon: no mention of files or paths with g2d anywhere in system - did a ls -R to check
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<focus> popolon: there is /etc/udev though nothing inside of it mentions g2d or video related stuff
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<focus> popolon: couple of files in /etc/init about udev in the file name. Some mention video displays
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<popolon> I noticed all, but your last find in /etc/init
<popolon> created the character device node : mknod /dev/g2d c 251 0
<popolon> added mali, mali_drm in /etc/modules (don't understand why for they are not automagically loaded
<popolon> (and drm_kms_helper, but not sure this one is usefull
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<popolon> focus, [ 168.762] (II) SUNXIFB(0): can't load 'g2d_51' kernel module
<ssvb> popolon: hmm
<ssvb> what kernel are you using?
<popolon> Linux linaro-ubuntu-desktop 3.4.61+ #5 SMP PREEMPT Mon Sep 16 12:50:23 BST 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
<popolon> focus compiled him
<popolon> focus compiled it
<ssvb> and why 'g2d_51' and not 'g2d_23'?
<ssvb> somebody clearly has modified the sources
<popolon> focus wrote something about his sources
<ssvb> try to 'modprobe g2d_23' and then 'lsmod'
<popolon> FATAL: Module g2d_23 not found.
<popolon> ooops
<popolon> for the sunxi xorg module
<popolon> sunxifb, I copied binary files from another distro
<ssvb> and "zcat /proc/config.gz | grep G2D"?
<popolon> probably the src of the wrong number for g2d
<popolon> as I suppose that's the sunxifb xorg driver that ask for g2d kernel driver
<popolon> nothing in proc/config.gz
<ssvb> the sunxi-3.4 kernel should use 'g2d_23' name for the kernel module, the allwinner 3.3 kernel used 'g2d_51'
<popolon> focus, didn't you see you had g2d = yes in your sources ?
<ssvb> I guess 'g2d_23' is the 'right' choice because it avoids a pointless rename
<popolon> I get those binary files from a cubieboard site image
<popolon> ok, at least a point to change
<popolon> else I will follow the full procedure to make binary drivers, as wrote on linux-sunxi wiki
<popolon> will probably give better result and lest wasted time :)
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<ssvb> I already have enough trouble trying to support linux-sunxi kernels of different age :)
<ssvb> if people start hacking the sources to add weird tweaks, then it becomes really messy
<popolon> really sorry
<ssvb> no problems
<ssvb> I just have very little clue about what kind of modifications have been done to your kernel and the x11 driver
<popolon> didn't know there was several sources of the xorg driver
<ssvb> there aren't
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<popolon> for information, I take xorg binary driver from this image : http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/hramrach/cubieboard2-linux3.3-SD-card-image/
<ssvb> it's just the "[ 168.762] (II) SUNXIFB(0): can't load 'g2d_51' kernel module" message indicates the use of a patched x11 driver, not the original one
<popolon> don't know why cubietruck don't give a 3.4 sunxi kernel version
<popolon> s/cubietruck/cubietech/
<infobot> popolon meant: don't know why cubietech don't give a 3.4 sunxi kernel version
<popolon> that's a link from cubietech cubieboard.org site, but that's on linux-sunxi.org
<popolon> :)
<focus> popolon: doh! balls - the config i used did not have CONFIG_SUN4I_G2D=y
<focus> what happens is that you do some commands to get the config made and it seems to have removed it from the default config file
<popolon> ok :)
<focus> popolon: the config file used to compile is here http://www.gplsquared.com/eoma_boot/config_after_setup.txt
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<popolon> focus, thanks, proc/config.gz should give the same result
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<focus> wow - thanks!
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<grog> wheeeee i have nfi what im doing
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<Popov> have an project to integrate NIC cubieboard2 on FreeBSD current ?
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<ssvb> mnemoc: when you were talking about the passive radiator(s) in the CT package, did you mean that you got two of them (one for CT and one for older CB2)?
<ssvb> mnemoc: ok, I should have checked the scrollback log before asking :)
<ssvb> mnemoc: somehow earlier I got an impression that you got a heat dissipater also for cubieboard2 and not just for the a20 in cubietruck
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<grog> gasp how do i fex teh scriptbins for i2c omgggg
* ttmrichter is away: 好记性不如烂笔头
* ttmrichter is away: 好记性不如烂笔头
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<grog> what's a good way to test my i2c?
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<popolon> focus, I noticed you didn't activated dma
<popolon> DMA Engine support, this overload the cpu, is this a choice beacause of not supported feature ?
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<focus_it> popolon: hmm.. that be down to the setting sunxi developers pre-set their choices
<focus_it> grog: use i2cdetect
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<popolon> and the same for devfreq
<popolon> probably why the cpu seem hottest than on other images I tested ?
<popolon> focus_it, do you know where is the G2D driver ?
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<popolon> I don't find it
<focus_it> again settings are choices made by sunxi-developers - also G2D, you may get a lot of the answers from #linux-sunxi - they write it all :)
<popolon> I activated virtio and mmu (not sure it will works, but A7 support virtio
<popolon> ok, thanks
<popolon> there inkernel xz decompression support :), long time I didn't looked at kernel options
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<focus_it> i see ssvb say use stage/sunxi-3.4 for G2D - in that case i download it and start compiling that because i got problems trying to get lcd going and need a different kernel to check against
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<focus_it> popolon: any options you want to me change out? It takes about 2 hours to compile.
<popolon> focus_it, do you know where to find it ?
<popolon> focus_it, do you compile it on cubieboard ?
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<focus_it> i cross compile it on ubuntu linux
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<popolon> I will compile it on my core i7 with make -j8 :)
<popolon> I installed an ubuntu 13.10 to take benefits from gcc-4.8 neon optimisations
<buZz> 2 hours?
<popolon> so even without hw acceleration, it should be faster
<buZz> there is no neon code used in the kernel, is there?
<focus_it> popolon: git clone git://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi.git git checkout --track stage/sunxi-3.4
<popolon> I mean autovectorization
<popolon> ok, ok, thanks a lot !
<popolon> buZz, if you use -O3 neon auto-vectorization is activated
<focus_it> i got quad core, but i compile on my netbook
<popolon> so if it detects vectorizable loop it vectorize it
<focus_it> how fast does the i7 compile your average kernel?
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<popolon> in fact, I never compiled kernel on it
<popolon> I didn't compiled kernel for at least 3 or 4 years ^^
<focus_it> in that case follow the guide here http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps - easy
<focus_it> :)
<popolon> that's what I do
<popolon> and adapt some parts
<popolon> if this works, I will add it to wiki
<focus_it> so what is average fastest anyone compiles with i7 or other beefy computer?
<focus_it> popolon: yes please, i follow it
<popolon> focus_it, do you use make -j4 at least ?
<focus_it> just rough idea - 20min? 1 hour?
<popolon> that's hard to know
<focus_it> i use j5
<popolon> everyhting depend on what is a mean computer, and what is compiled etc...
<popolon> my previous cpu was an single core AMD ULV @~1.5Ghz
<popolon> so not the mean computer of today
<popolon> a ULV processor is really hard to find for a desktop motherboard
<focus_it> just trying to see if worthwhile getting another beefier device - the netbook handy because i can take it work and bring it home easy - keeps everything in one place. its got ssd = fast at most things
<focus_it> disk based
<popolon> I used ubuntu Buildroot, not firststep
<popolon> I must synthetize all these informations :)
<focus_it> yes please
<popolon> I mean, first, in my head :D
<focus_it> so much information out there - getting it listed in the right order to save time is what counts
<popolon> I export CFLAGS='-O3 -mcpu=cortex-a7'
<popolon> before compiling on the cb2
<popolon> make -j2 to take benefits of the 2 cores
<popolon> works pretty well, not specially slow :)
<focus_it> how fast
<focus_it> i want to try
<popolon> like on average computer I believe
<popolon> at least for mali driver
<focus_it> that is good news - do you use disk or ssd?
<popolon> http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers <= I follow this
<focus_it> wow - thanks!
<popolon> ssvb, on the wiki, follow the instruction, and, in included xorg.conf
<popolon> some diff (that's for A10/A13 after identifier, but should not make diff)
<popolon> driver name is fbturbo
<ssvb> popolon: it was recently renamed
<ssvb> popolon: but everything should work just the same as before
<popolon> ah ok
<popolon> thanks again
<popolon> no more need of AccelMethod G2D then
<ssvb> yep, it's default (if g2d kernel driver is available)
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<popolon> yes, sure :)
<popolon> => /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbturbo_drv.(la|so), nice
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<rm> sunxifb renamed to fbturbo? ...what?
<popolon> fatal: Cannot update paths and switch to branch 'sunxi-3.4' at the same time.
<rm> oh I see, it now works on the Raspberry Pi too
<ssvb> rm: think about children :) it also works on raspberry pi, odroid and a bunch of other devices
<rm> that's the whole reason
<ssvb> yep
<rm> I thought it was competing for the most nondescript name ever with drivers/net/ethernet/fealnx.ko
<rm> where fealnx stands for "Fast Ethernet Adapter Linux"
<rm> nevermind then :)
<popolon> focus_it, syntax was : git checkout -b stage/sunxi-3.4
<popolon> but branch 3.4 has g2d driver too ?
<popolon> ./drivers/char/sun4i_g2d
<popolon> ./drivers/media/video/s5p-g2d
<ssvb> popolon: yes, sunxi-3.4 branch has g2d for sun4i
<ssvb> popolon: that's why it works on a10
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<popolon> oh, need sun7i for A20 isn't it ?
<popolon> sun4i stable => a10
<popolon> sun4i stage => +A20
<popolon> ok understand
<popolon> but don't find it in menuconfig :/
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<popolon> ok, that's after menuconfig , when launching make
<popolon> start the compilation
<popolon> (make -j8 before the questions)
<popolon> I've a ssd, but compile on HDD
<popolon> well 16 GB of ram should be enough to compile 8 Threads in // and cache well
<popolon> sys use 2.3 GB
<popolon> (about 10GB of cache)
<popolon> error !!
<popolon> compilation aborted :/
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<popolon> drivers/scsi/osd/osd_initiator.c:68:2: error: size of unnamed array is negative
<popolon> focus_it, do you have enough ram for -j5 ? and do you use swap ?this could explain a so long compilation time
<popolon> real6m0.422s
<popolon> user40m22.795s
<popolon> sys3m27.002s
<focus_it> popolon: thanx for syntax, 1GB RAM swap active i believe
<popolon> 6 minutes (for the stable branch)
<focus_it> woooo!
<popolon> :D
<focus_it> i must get that sorted then
<popolon> but 40 minutes user time = I believe it cumulate each cpu time usage
<popolon> focus_it, first you need more ram
<popolon> using swap == go 50* slower
<popolon> I mean really 50 time
<popolon> not an exagerated number
<focus_it> this model of inspiron have to complete dismantle pc + heatsinks to fit extra ram - may be i split compile between quad core which has 4GB ram and netbook when going to work
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<focus_it> i got ssd
<popolon> I understand why for this kind of system is sold
<popolon> if you don't have enough ram, no need to have several processors
<focus_it> I also got 2 x 3GHz dual core PCs sitting idle - may be i put those into use
<popolon> else more task could start together => more ram should be used => should activate swap => should be slower than with half the processors....
<popolon> did you try to compile with less threads ?
<popolon> it could be faster in at least some cases
<popolon> at least disable X11 and any ram consuming services during compilation time
<focus_it> i did try 2 - but a lot slower
<focus_it> disable x - good idea! never thought of that
<focus_it> thanks
<popolon> more ram you have, more cache you have
<popolon> with htop you can see in the ram bar, at the left the process usage, at the right, the cache usage
<popolon> more cache => less need to load several times the same header files
<popolon> etc...
<focus_it> librecad works
<popolon> nice :)
<focus_it> htop very nice!!
<popolon> you can change the update time
<popolon> htop -c 1 = 1time every 1/10th seconds
<popolon> (if I'm not wrong)
<focus_it> htop -d 1
<focus_it> works well
<popolon> yes :)
<popolon> but consume lot of cpu without hw acceleration on cubieboard
<focus_it> ok
<popolon> as every chars displayed are blitted by cpu
<popolon> htop -d 5 or more is better
<focus_it> ok
<popolon> well. I managed to compile a stable kernel.... without g2d :)
<focus_it> htop -d 5 or else cubie go mad!
<focus_it> :)
<focus_it> wow - that be quick
<popolon> CC [M] drivers/scsi/osd/osd_initiator.o doesn't works
<popolon> I don't believe I need this ?
<popolon> problem with picolcd too
<popolon> stage compiled, .... but without g2d module :(
<focus_it> sad - again the guys in linux-sunxi might be able to help
<popolon> default y
<popolon> cp arch/arm/configs/cubieboard_defconfig .config
<popolon> didn't do that :/
<popolon> I'm a little stupid
<popolon> now menuconfig is a little better :)
<popolon> (used sun7i_defconfig
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<focus_it> popolon: check the .config file hasn't had stuff deleted - remember I was saying g2d got disabled...
<popolon> G2D is not definied at all
<popolon> I tried to add a line CONFIG_SUN4I_G2D=m
<focus_it> also if you look in the notes at http://www.gplsquared.com/eoma_boot/eoma_boot.html#linaro_boot_uSD_image you will see CONFIG_SUNXI_EMAC=y needs to be set manually or else loose ethernet
<popolon> oh !
<popolon> good to know :)
<focus_it> yeah :) - got me first time
<focus_it> Turl in #linux-sunxi fixed it for me
<popolon> and you wrote about sun7i_defconfig :)
<focus_it> yes - but have no memory of it :(
<focus_it> :)
<focus_it> too much information overload
<popolon> yes
<popolon> I understand
<popolon> that's true that g2d is in sun4i_g2d
<popolon> config SUN4I_G2D
<popolon> depends on ARCH_SUN4I
<popolon> I perhaps need to activat sun4i too
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<popolon> focus_it, thanks for the link on your site :)
<popolon> https://groups.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=topic/linux-sunxi/g5LdwQn_Shw#!topic/linux-sunxi/g5LdwQn_Shw
<popolon> there are at least 2 threads on the ml on the subject
<popolon> https://groups.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=topic/linux-sunxi/uDYA_Klesf8#!topic/linux-sunxi/uDYA_Klesf8
<Baronawesome> formated the disk as ext3 and now disk speed werks smoothly yay
<popolon> I really need to learn more git usage now :)
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<popolon> well two times :)
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<popolon> as I'm really a noob in git :/
<popolon> nice, everything is already selected
<focus_it> popolon: g2d still missing from inux-sunxi-stage-sunxi-3.4/arch/arm/configs/sun7i_defconfig
<popolon> it was selected in menuconfig
<popolon> after copiying this defconfig
<focus_it> ok
<popolon> CONFIG_SUNXI_G2D=y
<popolon> that's not as module, but hardlinked
<popolon> I had to remove RAID driver
<popolon> it didn't compile
<popolon> drivers/net/wireless/bcm4330/siutils.c <= another problem
<popolon> don't care
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<popolon> cool
<popolon> compiled !
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<popolon> focus_it, this time, in .config : CONFIG_SUNXI_EMAC=m
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<popolon> compilation was not complete, still some errors
<popolon> linked to some headers dependencies
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<popolon> problems I've are mostly due to corrupted zip archive ?
<popolon> don't understand why github doesn't use tarball
<popolon> there are some links that dereferences sources instead if filename of sources ^^
<popolon> perhaps not a zip problem but a github bug to make archives
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<popolon> git clone https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi -b stage/sunxi-3.4
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