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<Tekkharibo> good night
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<freq> okay i'm back and it came back on
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<freq> i3 is so nice. it does not want anything to do with xfce4, though.
<freq> I just downloaded pcmanfm
<freq> can't have thunar because it's in the xfce packages
<ttmrichter> i3? Isn't that one the one where the originator had a psychotic break?
<freq> I am not sure.
<freq> I know there is a disk format that has a story like that behind it
<freq> reiser
<ttmrichter> No, that was a murder, not a psychotic break.
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<freq> Where did you hear about the i3 story?
<ttmrichter> I'm not sure. This is rattling around in the back of my head.
<ttmrichter> Ah, no. It wasn't i3.
<ttmrichter> Never mind.
<freq> I'm gonna document the ease of setting up i3 with cubian
<ttmrichter> Do so. i3 looks interesting.
<ttmrichter> It's Ion that I was thinking of.
<freq> Oh, I'm not familiar
<freq> This is fun once the crashing stops :p
<ttmrichter> Ugh. Constant crashing is the reason I gave up on Awesome.
<freq> I WAS running openbox. I am not sure why the sd card went read-only
<freq> This time I just put all of my files and backup on a sata drive
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<ttmrichter> Then your SATA drive goes R/O and... :D
<freq> that has not been mounted yet
<freq> I know there is a work-around to get it to write again
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<freq> ttmrichter i will have a short tut up in a bit
<ttmrichter> Cool.
<ttmrichter> I don't want a bloated WM on the Cubieboard.
<ttmrichter> I need something quick and simple.
<ttmrichter> Even Lubuntu is a bit ... sluggish.
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<ttmrichter> I'd like to make a truly minimalist Linux distro for Cubieboard.
<freq> okay lemme just get a pasebin to you
<ttmrichter> Maybe something initially based on Slackware-style?
<freq> well this is based on cubian
<freq> I assume you have cubian installed or plan on it
<ttmrichter> Not at the moment, no, but I can have it installed in minutes.
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<ttmrichter> It's just an SD card overwrite.
<freq> Some people don't know. I will have to instruct that also
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<freq> Have fun
<ttmrichter> Thanks. :)
<freq> Surely
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<freq> It looks like putting this cubie on a UPS would be wise
<freq> This might be the 4th time I had to re-do cubian
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<freq> The sd card goes read-only in the case of a power outage
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<mnemoc> freq: the CT has a LiPo connector :)
<mnemoc> prefer for a "built-in" UPS
<mnemoc> perfect*
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<ttmrichter> I have so-called "power banks" for that.
<ttmrichter> A LiPo battery with a charger on one end and a power supply out on the other.
<ttmrichter> Sort of a poor man's UPS. :D
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<mnemoc> the LiPo is charged by the same PMU that controls all the board
<mnemoc> at least the "power banks" I've got can't be charged and used at the same time :(
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<mnemoc> the good thing with the lipo is that you can make a single but small case for the CT, it's SSD and it's "UPS" and screw it on the back of a monitor
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<FR^2> Hiho
<FR^2> I really need a kvm switch or at least a hdmi switch
<FR^2> :D
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<rm> I tried to use my HDMI receiver as an HDMI switch
<rm> but it disconnects non-active inputs completely
<rm> Windows thinks the monitor has been unplugged and repositions windows/panels/etc, raising all sorts of mayhem
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<FR^2> rm: uh. That's ugly :)
<FR^2> Currently I've got my old PC (out of order, have to plug in the old nvidia gt9800 again, the newer one is in the new PC I assembled yesterday) in the office, with a full-hd monitor there, and a cable to the living room with a full-hd TV there, and both always show the same picture.
<FR^2> And with the new hardware came an ssd for the cubieboard2 :D
<FR^2> But I'll have to either buy or make a new casing for it that can also contain the ssd.
<FR^2> So many things to do :D
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<svenzzon> !ls
<svenzzon> !expl flash-linux-nand
<CubieFAQ> flash-linux-nand: The fastest way is to use the PIMP_MY_MELE utility from guillaume. For more detailed, roll-your-own instructions, see this thread in the miniand.com forums. (https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/boot-ubuntu-lubuntu-from-internal-4g-flash?page=2#post-3555)
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<svenzzon> Hello guys. Just got my new cubieboard yesterday. Now from what ive heard A10 and A20 are identical except the processor. Now can I use the kali linux guide to run that on my A20 even though its for A10 ?
<svenzzon> Thats the guide im reffering to :)
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<svenzzon> !expl start-it
<CubieFAQ> start-it: CNXSoft has written a great Quick Start Guide here (http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/12/09/cubieboard-unboxing-and-quick-start-guide/). There is a First Steps page on this Wiki (http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/FirstSteps).
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<popolon> there is a -march=armv7-a flag at gcc
<popolon> So more optimized CFLAGS I found for now, for cubieboard2 is : CFLAGS="-O3 -march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a7 -mfpu=neon-vfpv4 -mfloat-abi=hard"
<popolon> foc cubieboard1, this should be : CFLAGS="-O3 -march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a8 -mfpu=neon-vfpv3 -mfloat-abi=hard"
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<popolon> If the selected floating-point hardware includes the NEON extension (e.g. -mfpu=neon), note that floating-point
<popolon> operations will not be used by GCC's auto-vectorization pass unless -funsafe-math-optimizations is also
<popolon> arithmetic (in particular denormal values are treated as zero), so the use of NEON instructions may lead to a
<popolon> specified. This is because NEON hardware does not fully implement the IEEE 754 standard for floating-point
<popolon> loss of precision.
<svenzzon> Are you talking to me popolon =) ?
<mnemoc> to _whitelogger :p
<svenzzon> aha k
<popolon> this say that the VFP is IEEE 754 compliant
<popolon> only Neon should not
<popolon> yes to the log :)
<mnemoc> now popolon can google for his own notes :p
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<popolon> mnemoc, yes , that's the goal of a log, isn't it ? :D
<mnemoc> :D
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<JIV> svenzzon: go to http://www.cubieforums.com/ and pick some build
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<svenzzon> JIV: mmhm :)
<popolon> oh, no link to the FAQ in cubieboard page
<popolon> I mean firststeps one
<popolon> this one has, in Getting started section
<popolon> http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard2_wheezy_image <= this speak about 3.3 image :(
<JIV> cubian has 3.4
<popolon> svenzzon, there are good return about cubian, you can try this
<popolon> there are some image around the net (on cubieboard site for example) that crash a lot
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<popolon> http://www.vesperix.com/arm/atlas-arm/faq/index.html <= confirmed here for non IEEE 754 compliance
<popolon> that's more for interface/realtime view than scientific computing after all
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<popolon> focus, plop !
<popolon> are you here ?
<popolon> how did you managed to get console working ?
<popolon> I try to do that on ubuntu 13.10
<popolon> (no screen for now, and no network :) )
<popolon> console work for kernel part
<popolon> a little system part
<popolon> I will try something else, that worked with serial IPMI ?
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<popolon> yes !
<popolon> works
<popolon> just don't know the default password :)
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<popolon> I can boot and log in a ubuntu 13.10 :)
<popolon> on cubieboard2
<freq> good popolon
<popolon> just missing vi and ifconfig
<popolon> but there is ifup...
<popolon> I use ubuntu core
<popolon> so that's strict minimum
<Tekkharibo> freq: why install terminator with i3?
<popolon> will make an image with minimum + console working
<freq> Tekkharibo: just preference
<Tekkharibo> ok
<popolon> iceweasel !
<popolon> that really miss in ubuntu
<popolon> perhaps there is a ppa ?
<Tekkharibo> it's firefox
<Tekkharibo> just change name and logo i think
<freq> yeah firefox might also be more updated
<popolon> oh, there is icecat
<popolon> not at all
<popolon> at least as far I believe
<popolon> no more google everywhere, and some interesting freesoftware things
<Tekkharibo> why you want more up for firefox ?
<popolon> no ppa
<popolon> Tekkharibo, i don't more, I want less
<popolon> don't want to loose time to remove *google* everywhere in about:config
<Tekkharibo> ho ok
<popolon> each time you launch firefox for the first time
<popolon> you make a hit at google
<popolon> at every typo in url
<popolon> google
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<popolon> etc...
<Tekkharibo> but after up of firefox i keep my about:config
<popolon> google is your master, if it doesn't like a site
<Tekkharibo> i set ddg.gg
<popolon> it will not authorize you to visit it by default
<popolon> ddg.gg ?
<popolon> what this ?
<freq> duckduck doesnt find everything
<Tekkharibo> duckduckgo
<popolon> about the same
<Tekkharibo> it's an other search engine
<freq> I have a tough time when researching with duckduck
<popolon> in few month/years we we learn it is backed by darpa/nsa/...
<Tekkharibo> darpa ?
<popolon> I use seeks-search, a distributed p2p search engine
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<freq> bbiab
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<popolon> the public company that created tcp/ip, mosaic (that become mozilla and after that firefox)
<Tekkharibo> if I remember seeks-searcher use us disk free
<popolon> sorry forgot netscape between mozaic and mozilla
<popolon> us disk free ?
<Tekkharibo> bye all
<popolon> what this
<popolon> you can select / add several search engine on seeks-search
<popolon> host it by yourself, etc...
<popolon> in fact darpa is us army research
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<jelly-home> popolon: it was NCSA that did Mosaic
<jelly-home> Netscape was a separate development with no code shared with Mosaic (intentionally so, says wikipedia)
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<lxsameer> hi guys, is there any frequency mixer in cubie which i can use ?
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<popolon> that was a fork from former people of ncsa
<popolon> oh, yes, I was wrong i believed that ncsa was an entity of darpa :)
<jammi> yes, and ie is another fork of a fork (spryglass mosaic)
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<jammi> I used those when they were new
<popolon> that's why for the mozilla in user agent of explorer ?
<jammi> no, the mozilla user agent is unrelated to that
<jammi> the user agent mess is from pages that were "designed for [browser]"
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<jammi> they checked that and unless there was a match for let's say mosaic, there would just be an error alert
<jammi> or a match for mozilla
<jammi> by the netscape navigator 2.0 times, that became so common that all other browsers had to fake their identity, and that's why ie still identifies as mozilla
<jammi> netscape had like 95% of the browser market at that point
<jammi> and yes, market. they had a separate free version and another to buy
<jammi> the gold version needed a license and had the typical pre-firefox mozilla stuff built-in, like the usenet client, email client, web page composer and such
<jammi> whereas the plain navigator was just a browser (like firefox vs earlier mozillas)
<jammi> later, they rebranded the netscape navigator gold product as netscape communicator
<jammi> by version 4.0 or something like that, could have been 4.5
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<freq> is there a way to add a lipo battery to the gpio headers
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<focus_it> hi - cubieboard1 - root=/dev/sda1 won't work if placed in uEnv.txt ? it just hangs saying waiting for /dev/sda1
<focus_it> (cubieboard2 works without problems if i set boot.cmd up)
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<UnaClocker> I've been considering a Cubieboard2 to replace my SheevaPlug that I use as a firewall/fireserver/router/webserver..
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<Danielbrazilian> hi guys
<Danielbrazilian> does cubieboard works skype perfeclly?
<Danielbrazilian> anybody here?
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<UnaClocker> I'm here, but it's my first visit, and I've got no idea.
<UnaClocker> I guess the regulars here are in a different time zone.
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