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<FR^2> moin
<gzamboni> moin
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<focus> popolon: its good to hear the upgrade went ok. I upgraded linaro-ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and found the gnome session "fallback" had been replaced with gnome "flashback" - and i could not login. The linaro, lxde and xubuntu i could log back in - but no actual working ubuntu unity or ubuntu "flashback" sessions.
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<wolfy> anyone using cb-a20-lubuntu-desktop-card-v105.img around ?
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<Wessix> wolfy think i do
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<wolfy> on my system I get only 2 tuxes displayed and boot freezes. any hint on what could be wrong ?
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<Wessix> oh i'm not an expert, myne is starting, are you sure you took the sdcard version?
<wolfy> that's what the "card" in the name stands for, doesn't it ?
<Wessix> yeah
<wolfy> so yes, I am sure
<Wessix> i use a samsung micro sd
<Wessix> did you check checksums?
<wolfy> yes, I did
<Wessix> maybe your download got corrupted
<Wessix> ok
<Wessix> mmm
<Wessix> enough power supply
<Wessix> ?
<Wessix> i had the cubieboard2 powered by a weak power source and it made issues
<JohnDoe_71Rus> try boot cb2 android from flash http://pastebin.com/tN227VEy why Failed to execute /dev/mmcblk0p3/init. Attempting defaults...
<wolfy> the only 2 things I am not sure about are the sdcard ( it's a kingston which worked perfectly in a phone ) and the power supply ( it provides only 1.2 A)
<Wessix> can you plug it to apc
<Wessix> use the usb of a pc
<Wessix> just for testing
<Wessix> normally that should server enough power
<Wessix> ok have to leave wish you luck!
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<FR^2> What kind of rechargeable battery pack could be used to power a cubieboard for some hours? ^^
<FR^2> Hmm. A simple usb battery pack could be enough. 5V, 2A... Should suffice, I think.
<ttmrichter> FR^2: I actually have powered mine off of a "power bank" for smartphones, so yes, as long as you can get the amperage on the output.
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<FR^2> ttmrichter: Might be a bit of an issue, I'm running an sata ssd with my cubieboard. And I have no idea what power consumption such a thing as (as peak or on avarage...)
<ttmrichter> Read the spec sheet for it? :)
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<FR^2> Hmm. What's that? "Read"? And what's a "spec sheet"? ;) Good idea. I'll look for some :)
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<mnemoc> the CT comes with a LiPo connector :)
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<FR^2> Lithium polymer?
<mnemoc> yes, charged by the same PMU that controls the A20
<mnemoc> so it's a built-in ups
<mnemoc> olimex did this since their first A13 board, but cubietech only added it in the CT (aka CB3)
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<FR^2> mnemoc: Ah, okay, but the cb2 doesn't have this option, does it?
<mnemoc> right
<mnemoc> cb2 == cb1 + A20
<mnemoc> cb3/ct is a new board, using all the power of the A20
<FR^2> hmm :)
<mnemoc> like 2GB of ram and Gb ethernet
<mnemoc> also 12V for 3.5" drives
<FR^2> Yes, a few weeks ago I thought about purchasing the ct, but then again... hey, I have my cb2 running, but I'm not yet really using it :/
<FR^2> I'm still waiting for a way to attach it to that "motorola atrix laptop dock", but delivery of those adapters and cables takes quite some time
<mnemoc> I was begging for http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Alejandro_Mery/Lapdock ... but no interest :\
<focus> mnemoc: i interest
<focus> :)
<FR^2> Yes, very interesting concept. And with the hugh raspberry-pi-and-others community it might be interesting indeed
<FR^2> Ah, btw: Power consumption of the sata ssd: 0.12Watts
<FR^2> Am I calculating this wrong or is this nearly neglible?
<mnemoc> main problem is to get someone living in china willing to invest and manufacture it.... maybe doing a prototype and then indiegogo it
<mnemoc> that page is only a project proposal written from a user (me) perspective
<focus> mnemoc: my thoughts were putting a cubieboard type board + lcd screen. Would have to develop a usb driver that blitzes data to cpu board through a USB link which then updates LCD. The cubieboard can have a sata which with software also becomes available as a USB drive.
<mnemoc> feedback to make it more attractive to potential manufactures is highly welcomed
<mnemoc> focus: my point was to do it device agnostic
<focus> confused
<mnemoc> the board/dongle living outside the lapdock
<mnemoc> and using standard interfaces to connect both (hdmi, usb), and a VESA mount where to screw a 3d printed or similar docking for your favourite toy
<focus> mnemoc: the stick lives outside the lapdock - but connects with 2 x USB to the lapdock
<focus> one USB gets video, another gets you hd
<mnemoc> hdmi on dongles is pretty standard, and doesn't burn your usb bw
<focus> hdmi to lcd - expensive i believe
<mnemoc> search for ANX7808
<mnemoc> that's hdmi to eDP
<focus> so get rid of hdmi - have a screen attaching through USB with a driver
<mnemoc> usb is cpu driven, you won't get 1080p from a normal devboard/dongle via usb
<focus> price of lcd $15, price of cubie $45 - suddenly lapdock
<mnemoc> specially if you also use usb for storage
<mnemoc> sure
<focus> i'm thinking of cheapie heepeee lapdock
<mnemoc> i'm thinking in a CE product for geeks with hdmi dongles and devboards
<focus> my thought on that is someone ought to make netbooks again with A20 and 2GB RAM and a decent LCD
<focus> otherwise the lapdock price and netbook price would be too close to each other
<focus> i have 2 cubietrucks on order to try that option out
<mnemoc> but the lapdock has a good display and it's reusable while the netbook displays are a bad joke
<focus> lcd on order as well
<mnemoc> both panels listed there 11.6 and 13.3 are 1080p and pretty cheap
<focus> netbook - can have hdmi which negates its screen problems - just buy cheap with low res lcd and attach it to home tv through hdmi
<focus> the 13" panels are about $75
<mnemoc> we have different goals. for me a low res lcd is useless. i want portable good res
<focus> tv + hdmi is $75
<mnemoc> focus: search for those panels on taobao
<mnemoc> tv is not portable
<focus> hmm...
<focus> you want high res video and interchangeable CPU boards
<mnemoc> yes
<mnemoc> and battery, and decent chassis
<focus> the formlabs 3D printers are shipping - they can do you decent cases
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<mnemoc> i'm just a user who wrote a product proposal for anyone wanting to invest on it and sell me one
<focus> that screen good price
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<mnemoc> the 11.6 variant is sightly more expensive
<mnemoc> but when buying in >1 qty things probably get better
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<focus> still a bit hard because cost of lcd + chippery + battery about same as similar quality netbook - if you put in default CPU like an A20 for about $30, then more value.
<focus> then you got additional worries over connecting up io pins
<mnemoc> that's why the board lives outside, behind the display, on a vesa mount
<mnemoc> it also make it reusable for all your toys
<mnemoc> present and future
<mnemoc> so even if it's more expensive than a netbook, it's a long term investment
<focus> so if i make a lapdock and it needs to connect to an eoma and cubieboard - how will that work (pardon my ignorance)
<mnemoc> one at the time ;-)
<focus> sure :D
<focus> which connectors go where
<mnemoc> hdmi -> hdmi; otg -> usb device; dc -> usb host charger
<mnemoc> optionally sata -> esata
<focus> no ethernet without pcmcia mboard
<mnemoc> ethernet from the board or usb dongle
<focus> ok - but the one usb otg can function to power up eoma and link to usb hub?
<mnemoc> eoma has a mini engineering board that provides ethernet. all the other ethernet capable boards come with the rj45
<focus> ok
<focus> will the otg connector connect to a usb hub on the lapdock and expand the number of usb ports
<mnemoc> lapdock = display + keybard + touchpad + battery + usb hub + usb charger
<mnemoc> yes
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<mnemoc> the components of that lapdock are available from an internal usb hub
<focus> in that case ethernet keyboard and mouse can come in through usb
<mnemoc> yes
<focus> that would make it worthwhile :)
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> re-read the page now ;-)
<focus> camera? usb again?
<focus> touchscreen - usb again?
<mnemoc> yes
<mnemoc> but powered usb hub
<focus> audio + mic - usb again?
<mnemoc> audio comes in hdmi
<focus> mic?
<mnemoc> usb
<focus> so how many powered usb approx gets internally made
<focus> and will they all work at the same time?
<mnemoc> see the list in the wiki page
<mnemoc> yes, they should
<focus> 14 ports - 2 x 7 powered hubs
<focus> mnemoc: in that case it looks easy to do if all 14 ports can be made to work without too many problems
<focus> i would make it 4 x 4 ports - avoid one port destroying others
<mnemoc> that's why I need EE feedback to improve the proposal ;-)
<mnemoc> re-read it (completely) first
<focus> coming right up :D
<mnemoc> :)
<focus> mnemoc: ping you later
<mnemoc> thanks :)
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<FR^2> when running linaro booted from a sata drive, how do I access the microSD card?
<wolfy> FR^2: I am going to guess and say that you should see it as /dev/sdX
<FR^2> Hmm.
<FR^2> I have /dev/sda and its partitions, but nothing else.
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<FR^2> any module I should load for that? ^^
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<FR^2> ushc is the module, so it seems
<FR^2> [1015273.305159] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
<FR^2> but no /dev/sdb visible yet
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<FR^2> Any hints?
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<rodolfobc> anyone managed to use g_ether module in cb2??
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<n01> rodolfobc: try to ask in #linux-sunxi
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<l_r> hello
<l_r> does cubieboard support camera sensors?
<l_r> i mean, i there any driver for at least one sensor?
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