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<rqou> ugh, i'm still getting a bunch of gpu crashes
<rqou> i should go and debug this at some point
<pie_> azonenberg, program it functionally so you get parallelism for free! :PPP jk
<rqou> ugh, i just checked my email and apparently i can't mess with anything right now because debian is perturbing their perl version
<rqou> i _still_ haven't taken the gnupg upgrade because it breaks things
<pie_> \o/ nixos
<rqou> if i migrate (unlikely) i'm probably going to go to Arch
<rqou> i can move from the "bureaucratic German" rolling-release distro to the "weeaboo" rolling-release distro :P :P
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<pie_> you should try nixos
<rqou> sounds too weird
<pie_> you need more kink in your life
<awygle> puppet screwed linux?
<pie_> the nix package manager screwed linux
<rqou> again, if i move distros i'll probably go with the weeaboo distro :P
<pie_> also i didnt know puppet did any og this stuff
<pie_> rqou, you can make nixos as weaboo as you want
<pie_> also what does that even mean
<pie_> also look it has this cool logo
<awygle> puppet does all of this plus like, three hundred more things, probably with about th e same level of total competence
<rqou> i personally seemed to have observed a strong correlation between "uses Arch Linux" and "is a weeaboo" :P
<rqou> just look at the number of anime avatars on the arch forums
<pie_> rqou, is arch like 4chans favorit distro or something
<rqou> no, afaik 4chan's distro is gentoo :P :P :P
<awygle> gentoo
<jn__> >install gentoo
<qu1j0t3> :)
<pie_> oh right
<jn__> i mean, /g/entoo
<pie_> hey all my friends are here \o/ :D
<pie_> hi guys
<rqou> but yeah, the "bureaucratic German rolling-release distro" isn't very good at being rolling-release
<awygle> arch is "move fast and break things", gentoo is "move slowly and break things"
<rqou> er, i was referring to debian
<pie_> so move and dont break things \o/
<rqou> don't move and yet break things
<pie_> i quote "puppet is a poor imitation of nixos"
* pie_ grabs popcorn
<rqou> meanwhile ubuntu is "move orthogonally and break things"
<pie_> lol
* qu1j0t3 has actually used puppet ._.
<rqou> rhel is "pay us to move and break things"
<pie_> rqou, so when are you printing the poster
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<rqou> ?
* awygle has also used puppet but is now on ansible
<pie_> the move an break things poster
* qu1j0t3 definitely doesn't use puppet now
<rqou> you can do it
* awygle has heard good things about chef
<pie_> i tried cfengine when i was younger
<rqou> i've looked into using some of these configuration management tools and they all seemed way overcomplicated to set up
<rqou> i should probably look into it again because my server is a giant clusterf*ck right now
<pie_> rqou, have you ever seen any of those posters with various political ideologies and like capitalism is when you have a cow and sell a cow... socialism ...etc etc
<qu1j0t3> pie_: Yeah, i'm very sceptical of this model.
<qu1j0t3> pie_: (and puppet's)
<rqou> i also have multiple servers that are all set up slightly differently, which is bonus fun
<pie_> i didnt get very far with cfengine because noob
<pie_> havnt tried nixops yet because i still havent bothered properly learing nix >.>
<pie_> *learning
<rqou> in general i hate "opinionated" tools
<rqou> and all of these configuration management tools seem to have certain hardcoded assumptions about what you are doing
<pie_> hm i suppose youre not gonna like immutable packages in principle
<awygle> rqou: config management is like version control, once you use it it's completely indispensible
<awygle> there is probably a tool out there that matches your brain
<rqou> hmm, i should try it when i rebuild my VPS
<rqou> right now my VPS is a giant clusterf*ck
<rqou> just to get started, it has a software ethernet bridge, so that's fun :P
<awygle> i have finally stopped using a container in a xen vm as my primary development environment, i feel accomplished
<rqou> yeah, i have a container in a linode
<rqou> my linode also for bonus fun has _two_ /64s
<rqou> except one of them is currently unused
<rqou> i had to argue with support about it too :P :P
<rqou> but yeah, my networking setup is a giant mess too
<rqou> one of the /64s is cut down into a bunch of /112s
<rqou> oh and on top of this there's a giant NAT clusterf*ck for v4
<pie_> nananananananana nananananananana NAT-MAN
<rqou> lol
<rqou> i f*cking hate nat
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<azonenberg> awygle: ping
<awygle> azonenberg: pong
<jn__> that was a quick round-trip!
<azonenberg> So, i just added you to the openfpga repi
<azonenberg> repo*
<awygle> so disappointed i didn't respond "ping, but quieter" or "silhouette of a Nevada-class submarine" :(
<awygle> azonenberg: so you did! and i have now accepted
<rqou> <troll>we have a wiki?</troll>
<azonenberg> aaand sar call, great
<azonenberg> Mutual aid so i have a few minutes to pack and grab stuff
<azonenberg> but not getting any work done tonight :p
<rqou> oh wtf
<rqou> it's summer, how do people get lost?
<azonenberg> see the "literature survey link here"
<azonenberg> Add some kind of text there to the effect of "place and route research"
<awygle> azonenberg: copy, wilco
<azonenberg> then create a page with your literature survey
<azonenberg> rqou: alzheimer's i think
<rqou> ah
<awygle> bears
<rqou> my mental picture of SAR is always "some dudes got lost while hiking"
<azonenberg> The last 2 missions were evidence searches iirc
<rqou> awygle: there's apparently a mountain lion nearby right now :P
<azonenberg> then a missing kid before that
* jn__ had to look up SAR for a minute. my mind translated it to Something And Route
<awygle> i always have to swap out of Synthetic Aperture Radar mdoe for these conversations
<azonenberg> lool
<awygle> which, come to think of it, would probably help with Search and Rescue
<azonenberg> Also my new ringer script is even better
<azonenberg> When a call came in from dispatch it used to turn the ringer to full blast and *keep it there*
<azonenberg> now it goes back to silent mode when i answer the call
<azonenberg> aaanyway i need to grab gear and get some sleep so i can get up in like 3 hours lol
<awygle> azonenberg: go save somebody :) and thank you for your non-military service
<awygle> just ran into homecmos in the comments of a blog post from 2011
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<awygle> added useful papers to the wiki along with thoughts
<awygle> holy crap it's 2am. goodnight moon
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<pie_> morning
<pie_> awygle, *goodnight moon moon
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<balrog> got a board here with some TI TPC1020 FPGAs
<balrog> apparently from 1989
<balrog> what the hell are these things
<balrog> and god-knows what software
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<rqou> wow you know it's old when the datasheet brags that it's "silicon-gate CMOS"
<cyrozap> I just found a no-name Artix-7 (35T) dev board on ebay for ~$30 less than a Digilent Arty: http://www.ebay.com/itm/FPGA-Artix7-Development-Board-XC7A35T-Core-with-64Mbit-SPI-Flash-456Mb-SDRAM-/263102890719
<rqou> buy it
<cyrozap> lol
<cyrozap> Maybe I'll use it as a "garbage/hacked bitstream" test board :)
<cyrozap> Otherwise, I'd rather spend the extra $30 and get ethernet, on-board USB-JTAG/UART, DDR3L RAM, double the SPI flash, etc.
<rqou> offtopic: how the f*ck did we get up to "CJK Unified Ideographs Extension F"
<rqou> and why do we have "Variation Selectors Supplement"?
<rqou> unicode, stahp
<rqou> i'm going to laugh when the SMP gets full
<JSharp> They'll just go astral on planes 3-13
<JSharp> The *only* thing I wish they had done differently was put emoji on its own plane...
<rqou> i'm waiting for researchers to fill those planes up completely with sawndip
<JSharp> well ... perhaps not the only thing
<rqou> wait wtf
<rqou> the SIP is already close to full
<rqou> they really are going to need more planes for sawndip
<rqou> wikipedia claims that plane 3 is tentatively going to become the Tertiary Ideographic Plane
<JSharp> there you go
<JSharp> I didn't know they'd already done that
<JSharp> when is the assignment due? Unicode 11?
<rqou> idk
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* JSharp shrug
<rqou> i guess some researchers got serious about archaic CJK and Sawndip
<rqou> unlike the PRC government which punted and assigned Zhuang a latin-based script
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<awygle> wtf planes? when did unicode become DnD?
<qu1j0t3> just generally apocalyptic stuff
<rqou> unicode had planes for a while
<rqou> it's pretty unfortunate for a Certain Major Operating System
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<qu1j0t3> we all like CMOS here
<rqou> lol
<rqou> i didn't even notice that
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<cyrozap> Both use an XC7A100T, with at least 1 GbE and 2 SFP connectors on each.
<cyrozap> And they're sub-$500.
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