<rqou>
i personally seemed to have observed a strong correlation between "uses Arch Linux" and "is a weeaboo" :P
<rqou>
just look at the number of anime avatars on the arch forums
<pie_>
rqou, is arch like 4chans favorit distro or something
<rqou>
no, afaik 4chan's distro is gentoo :P :P :P
<awygle>
gentoo
<jn__>
>install gentoo
<qu1j0t3>
:)
<pie_>
oh right
<jn__>
i mean, /g/entoo
<pie_>
hey all my friends are here \o/ :D
<pie_>
hi guys
<rqou>
but yeah, the "bureaucratic German rolling-release distro" isn't very good at being rolling-release
<awygle>
arch is "move fast and break things", gentoo is "move slowly and break things"
<rqou>
er, i was referring to debian
<pie_>
so move and dont break things \o/
<rqou>
don't move and yet break things
<pie_>
i quote "puppet is a poor imitation of nixos"
* pie_
grabs popcorn
<rqou>
meanwhile ubuntu is "move orthogonally and break things"
<pie_>
lol
* qu1j0t3
has actually used puppet ._.
<rqou>
rhel is "pay us to move and break things"
<pie_>
rqou, so when are you printing the poster
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<rqou>
?
* awygle
has also used puppet but is now on ansible
<pie_>
the move an break things poster
* qu1j0t3
definitely doesn't use puppet now
<rqou>
you can do it
* awygle
has heard good things about chef
<pie_>
i tried cfengine when i was younger
<rqou>
i've looked into using some of these configuration management tools and they all seemed way overcomplicated to set up
<rqou>
i should probably look into it again because my server is a giant clusterf*ck right now
<pie_>
rqou, have you ever seen any of those posters with various political ideologies and like capitalism is when you have a cow and sell a cow... socialism ...etc etc
<qu1j0t3>
pie_: Yeah, i'm very sceptical of this model.
<qu1j0t3>
pie_: (and puppet's)
<rqou>
i also have multiple servers that are all set up slightly differently, which is bonus fun
<pie_>
i didnt get very far with cfengine because noob
<pie_>
havnt tried nixops yet because i still havent bothered properly learing nix >.>
<pie_>
*learning
<rqou>
in general i hate "opinionated" tools
<rqou>
and all of these configuration management tools seem to have certain hardcoded assumptions about what you are doing
<pie_>
hm i suppose youre not gonna like immutable packages in principle
<awygle>
rqou: config management is like version control, once you use it it's completely indispensible
<awygle>
there is probably a tool out there that matches your brain
<rqou>
hmm, i should try it when i rebuild my VPS
<rqou>
right now my VPS is a giant clusterf*ck
<rqou>
just to get started, it has a software ethernet bridge, so that's fun :P
<awygle>
i have finally stopped using a container in a xen vm as my primary development environment, i feel accomplished
<rqou>
yeah, i have a container in a linode
<rqou>
my linode also for bonus fun has _two_ /64s
<rqou>
except one of them is currently unused
<rqou>
i had to argue with support about it too :P :P
<rqou>
but yeah, my networking setup is a giant mess too
<rqou>
one of the /64s is cut down into a bunch of /112s
<rqou>
oh and on top of this there's a giant NAT clusterf*ck for v4
<pie_>
nananananananana nananananananana NAT-MAN
<rqou>
lol
<rqou>
i f*cking hate nat
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<azonenberg>
awygle: ping
<awygle>
azonenberg: pong
<jn__>
that was a quick round-trip!
<azonenberg>
So, i just added you to the openfpga repi
<azonenberg>
repo*
<awygle>
so disappointed i didn't respond "ping, but quieter" or "silhouette of a Nevada-class submarine" :(
<awygle>
azonenberg: so you did! and i have now accepted
<rqou>
<troll>we have a wiki?</troll>
<azonenberg>
aaand sar call, great
<azonenberg>
Mutual aid so i have a few minutes to pack and grab stuff
<azonenberg>
but not getting any work done tonight :p